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Ray Rice-Recent Draft Position (1 Viewer)

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Myself and a lot of people have been considering waiting on RBs this year. Presumably guys like Rice would be available later, but he seems to be on every sleeper list out there, and the hype is building. I'm wondering where he has been going in drafts lately. If people could respond with his draft spot and basic information about the league (# of teams, ppr, start 2 rb + flex, etc) it would be immensely helpful for the rest of us. Basically I'm trying to get a handle on whether Rice is still a value pick, or if the hype machine has bumped him too high already.

So where did Rice go in your draft?

 
In ther IBL league which has been heavily slanted towards drafting WR's early (7 in the 1st 15 picks on average), he has gone 6.08, 6.06, 7.04 and 7.03 and I know he's currently being considered as early as 5.12.

 
I took him at 5.10 in the rapid draft I did the other day. I didnt want to reach but I was not happy with RBs I already had

At what point does he lose his value?

He will not be the goal line back and McGahee is still there

 
I took him at 5.09 in last weeks FFPC Pro's vs Joe's draft. It is a Draft Masters league, 12 teams, PPR with 1.5 pts for TE. Start QB, 2 RB, 2 WR, TE, K, D with 2 Flex spots.

There were 3 of these drafts last week and he went 6.01 and 5.11 in the other two.

Hope this helps. His value is dropping by the minute and I would assume by the time the main drafts roll around he will be in the 4th round.

 
I took him at 4.08 in a 12 team IDP league. Call it a hunch... I read how he had bulked up and I just have little faith in MaGahee. Baltimore will run the ball a lot. I think Rice could surprise a lot of people this year.

 
Guy took him at 4.05 this weekend (12 team non-ppr) :unsure:
Honestly, I would not take him in the 5th at this point, and really, would not be jumping for joy if I got him in the 6th-8th. Part of the reason that he was so attractive a few weeks ago is because people were getting him in the 9-11th round range. I am curious to see what this does to McClain's value. If you can now get him in the 10+ round area, that may be the deal now.
 
Guy took him at 4.05 this weekend (12 team non-ppr) :unsure:
Honestly, I would not take him in the 5th at this point, and really, would not be jumping for joy if I got him in the 6th-8th. Part of the reason that he was so attractive a few weeks ago is because people were getting him in the 9-11th round range. I am curious to see what this does to McClain's value. If you can now get him in the 10+ round area, that may be the deal now.
Agreed here. Was hoping to take him in the 9th. I think that's a distant memory at this point. Now that he's pushing into 5-8, you are displacing another critical pick. Maybe you want Greg Olsen in the 6th, or Carson Palmer, etc. When you could get him deep, you were looking at a slew of WR4s or QB2s to pick him over...hardly a sacrifice.
 
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Guy took him at 4.05 this weekend (12 team non-ppr) :unsure:
Honestly, I would not take him in the 5th at this point, and really, would not be jumping for joy if I got him in the 6th-8th. Part of the reason that he was so attractive a few weeks ago is because people were getting him in the 9-11th round range. I am curious to see what this does to McClain's value. If you can now get him in the 10+ round area, that may be the deal now.
:lmao: McClain in the 10th/11th is a much better pick than Rice in the 5th/6th. Or the 4th!! Crazy.
 
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As someone else recently noted, the fact that BALT had Lorenzo Neal in 08 allowed them to utilize Mcclain as a RB. Now that Neal is in OAK Mcclain is their fulltime FB so youd have to expect less this year barring any toher injuries to Rice/Mcgahee.. Id be happy to jump on Rice in the 5th. He still gets to see my Browns and the Bungles which are 4 must starts right there..

 
As someone else recently noted, the fact that BALT had Lorenzo Neal in 08 allowed them to utilize Mcclain as a RB. Now that Neal is in OAK Mcclain is their fulltime FB so youd have to expect less this year barring any toher injuries to Rice/Mcgahee.. Id be happy to jump on Rice in the 5th. He still gets to see my Browns and the Bungles which are 4 must starts right there..
I see McClain as the FB, Rice as the starting RB, and McGahee as short yardage guy. McClain will still see some carries, especially around the goal line, but I think McGahee may lead the team in TDs. Last year, they had Neal as the blocking FB and McClain was the short-yardage guy. Unless they have someone else playing FB in their goal line packages, McClain will have to block for either Rice or McGahee on a lot of those plays now, unless they use some sort of set without a FB.As much love as Rice has been getting, I'm more interested in taking a late-round flier on McGahee.
 
I like McGahee in the 11/12 range better than Rice at the end of 6/start of 7 where I would have to take him. (1st overall pick so at the turn...)

 
Took him at 4.7 in a FFPC(PPR) league a few weeks ago. I'll openly admit I don't think right now he merits a 4th rounder in most cases. In my case I only had one RB after 3 rounds and 21 RB's had been selected so I don't have an issue with taking him as the 22nd RB and now that I've had the hindsight of how that draft unfolded I don't have buyers remorse over the pick despite the fact in most drafts he's a 5th/6th rounder.

 
Seems like he is a decent preseason performance from really tipping. Im absolutely rooting for him to do nothing this weekend. The other backs on the roster may look like better options to be had rounds later, but Im pretty leery of that idea. Rice's value is all about upside for me, I don't think there is any way McClain could touch the top 10, but if Rice puts it all together and gets goalline opportunities he has a shot. McGahee is worth a flier I suppose.

 
I know my valuation of Rice is well above most folks', having taken him at 4.8 in a 12 team IDP dedraft, and maybe it was a round early, but I don't regret jumping for him either. I was also able to get MaGahee in the 19th. If McClain really is to relegated to the FB role almost exclusively, as some reports suggest, this might even be a "steal of the draft" kind of pick. We shall see.

Every year I seem to find a player I like based on some info and a lot of hunch, but the funny thing is it usually works out. I remember taking Portis in the second round in his rookie year. Can't tell you the greif I got for that one, but it was golden. Last year it was Salton in the 7th. I am hoping this year it will be Rice. Being able to land MaGahee so late was due to having Rice already. I guess there are no owners in this particular league that think MaGahee will be much of a factor... so that leaves Rice.

Right or wrong, I'll bump this thread when the time comes...

 
My league allows you to keep one player from last year's team but you lose that draft pick this year.

I'm debating on keeping Rice as a 12th round, Andre Johnson as a 2nd, or Matt Shaub in the 9th. Looks like Rice is shaping up to be the logical choice.

 
Can anyone see Ray Rice getting goaline work this year?
Not inside the five, to be honest... unless it's a third down at the five sort of thing, where he might get a target.
At the GL, I think it'd be either McClain or McGahee. Does anyone know enough about Cedric Peerman or Jalen Parmele to say if they could be an option?Hopefully they will have a couple of GL situations in the preseason, and that might help show us who's going to do what.
 
Can anyone see Ray Rice getting goaline work this year?
Not inside the five, to be honest... unless it's a third down at the five sort of thing, where he might get a target.
Keeping Ray Rice at the Goal line instead of anyone else could keep defenses from keying on the Run, as opposed to a short screen or quick out route. Could allow the QB to audible based on defensive read.
 
In an initial dynasty (PPR) draft I just started last week (which includes 2009 rookies), I got Rice at 5.12.

 
lmao @ 4th round. this team is way to RBBC and generally uncertain to bother with any of their players before mid rounds.

 
Can anyone see Ray Rice getting goaline work this year?
Not inside the five, to be honest... unless it's a third down at the five sort of thing, where he might get a target.
Keeping Ray Rice at the Goal line instead of anyone else could keep defenses from keying on the Run, as opposed to a short screen or quick out route. Could allow the QB to audible based on defensive read.
That would not be Baltimore's MO, I don't think, but the preseason games should offer some insight. Rumor is Rice bulked up some... even at that, he'll never be a short yardage guy, but maybe he'll see more snaps inside the ten... maybe the five, but I am certainly not projecting that when I drafted him.
 
lmao @ 4th round. this team is way to RBBC and generally uncertain to bother with any of their players before mid rounds.
Actually, I think they will give the rock to Rice to start the season. See what he can do with it. If he fails then it will go RBBC. I think it's his job to lose. So in the Ultimate Survivor league I mentioned above which the first leg is only 5 games. Picking him in the 4th is a good play there. In other leagues, I can see that being a reach as I don't think he will be the go to guy there and they will have to go to a RBBC but then I'm a McClain fan so I may be skewed here..
 
TheFanatic said:
brutha said:
lmao @ 4th round. this team is way to RBBC and generally uncertain to bother with any of their players before mid rounds.
Actually, I think they will give the rock to Rice to start the season. See what he can do with it. If he fails then it will go RBBC. I think it's his job to lose. So in the Ultimate Survivor league I mentioned above which the first leg is only 5 games. Picking him in the 4th is a good play there. In other leagues, I can see that being a reach as I don't think he will be the go to guy there and they will have to go to a RBBC but then I'm a McClain fan so I may be skewed here..
That is my hunch-gut feel.... as to the poster who is LHAO, maybe you missed some things.... like McClain is now the full time FB, and MaGahee is not only always in the dog house, his knees are as cranky as peaut brittle under a boot. Like I said.... I'll bump this thread either way once we get a game or four into the season. What I always find interesting is that whenever cookie cutter rankings come out, the reaction is ho-hum, you didn't stick your neck out, all safe rankings.... when someone bucks that trend, there is no shortage of people who also mock an "out of the box" valuation. If Rice is the Ravens primary ball carrier he'll be well worth a 4th. If he isn't, I'll bring some salt to put on my crow.
 
What did the first preseason game tell us, if anything? Rice started and was spelled by MaGahee in both possessions the Ravens had with the ones in the first half. Let's just go with the stats.

Rice:

5 carries for 22 yards. Had a 6 yard run called back. YPC: 4.4 (5.0 if the 6 yard run counted)

5 targets, 3 receptions for 38 yards.

Total yardage: 60

MaGahee:

4 carries for 26 yards. Had a 3 yard run called back. YPC: 6.5 (5.8 if the 3 yard run counted)

1 target, 1 reception for 7 yards.

Total yardage: 33

McClain had no touches.

Rice had 11 touches/targets

MaGahee had 6 touches/targets

(including plays called back)

Looks like Rice and MaGahee split this game at roughly 60-40. McClain was a non-factor.

The TOP in this first 17.30 minutes of the game was 12.04 for the Ravens, only 5.06 for the lowly Skins, so attempting to extrapolate complete game touches for Rice/MaGahee based on this preseason game would be very skewed. It's the split that matters, and in PPR leagues, the targets and catches. Unfotunately, both drives stalled, so we never saw who might get the GL carries. MaGahee did get a 4th and 1 at the Washington 8, and another at 1st and 4 at the Washington 4, but it was his turn in the rotation, and it looks like it was a definite rotation.

One certainly cannot assume that this will be the trend for the entire season... it's just the first preseason game, but is Rice still a reach in the 4th round? Not RB 2 material?

 
How did he look last night? I think after the Mid 4th hes a reasonable pick... hes going to lead the team in touches by a lot IMP; but should lose TDs.

I'm in a 12 Teamer right and this has to be the biggest reach I've seen for Rice

1.01 1. Hail Redskins Peterson, Adrian MIN RB Sun Aug 9 5:58:11 p.m. ET 2009 Will still consider trade offers, but thought I would get the draft started.

1.02 2. Public Enemy Jackson, Steven STL RB Sun Aug 9 5:58:11 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.03 3. Brutus Tomlinson, LaDainian SDC RB Sun Aug 9 6:17:37 p.m. ET 2009

1.04 4. Sinn Fein Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB Mon Aug 10 12:34:31 p.m. ET 2009

1.05 5. Playmakers Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Aug 10 12:34:31 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.06 6. Snake Eyes Turner, Michael ATL RB Mon Aug 10 12:34:31 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.08 8. Yoda of Borg Gore, Frank SFO RB Mon Aug 10 6:18:31 p.m. ET 2009

1.09 9. PrecisionCFC Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB Mon Aug 10 6:18:31 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.12 12. Titletown Favres Johnson, Chris TEN RB Mon Aug 10 8:05:47 p.m. ET 2009

2.03 15. Kellysmash Slaton, Steve HOU RB Mon Aug 10 8:27:42 p.m. ET 2009 Loving this pick

2.04 16. PrecisionCFC Westbrook, Brian PHI RB Mon Aug 10 9:17:29 p.m. ET 2009

2.08 20. Playmakers Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB Mon Aug 10 9:42:30 p.m. ET 2009

2.09 21. Sinn Fein Barber, Marion DAL RB Mon Aug 10 9:56:38 p.m. ET 2009

2.12 24. Hail Redskins Portis, Clinton WAS RB Tue Aug 11 3:48:33 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.06 30. Flying Fish of Death Grant, Ryan GBP RB Tue Aug 11 8:07:11 p.m. ET 2009

3.07 31. Snake Eyes Rice, Ray BAL RB Tue Aug 11 8:10:30 p.m. ET 2009

3.11 35. Public Enemy Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Tue Aug 11 9:38:46 p.m. ET 2009

3.12 36. Hail Redskins Thomas, Pierre NOS RB Tue Aug 11 9:38:46 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.02 38. Public Enemy Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB ® Tue Aug 11 9:41:20 p.m. ET 2009

4.03 39. Brutus Smith, Kevin DET RB Tue Aug 11 9:44:49 p.m. ET 2009

4.08 44. Yoda of Borg McFadden, Darren OAK RB Tue Aug 11 10:29:06 p.m. ET 2009

4.10 46. Kellysmash Bush, Reggie NOS RB Tue Aug 11 10:55:25 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.03 63. Brutus Wells, Chris ARI RB ® Wed Aug 12 12:34:18 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.07 67. Flying Fish of Death Addai, Joseph IND RB Wed Aug 12 2:27:14 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.09 69. PrecisionCFC Johnson, Larry KCC RB Wed Aug 12 6:22:17 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.10 70. Kellysmash Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB Wed Aug 12 6:22:17 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.11 71. Detroit Jazz Ward, Derrick TBB RB Wed Aug 12 6:22:17 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.01 73. Titletown Favres Jones, Thomas NYJ RB Wed Aug 12 6:53:53 p.m. ET 2009

7.06 78. Flying Fish of Death Lewis, Jamal CLE RB Wed Aug 12 9:25:23 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.07 79. Snake Eyes Benson, Cedric CIN RB Wed Aug 12 9:30:09 p.m. ET 2009

8.11 95. Detroit Jazz Parker, Willie PIT RB Thu Aug 13 2:28:15 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

9.03 99. Kellysmash Jones, Felix DAL RB Thu Aug 13 5:18:33 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

9.05 101. Yoda of Borg Washington, Leon NYJ RB Thu Aug 13 6:26:12 p.m. ET 2009

9.08 104. Playmakers Brown, Donald IND RB ® Thu Aug 13 6:35:44 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

10.04 112. Sinn Fein Jones, Julius SEA RB Thu Aug 13 9:46:34 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

10.09 117. PrecisionCFC Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB Thu Aug 13 10:03:23 p.m. ET 2009

11.02 122. Detroit Jazz Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB Thu Aug 13 10:46:29 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

11.05 125. Yoda of Borg Sproles, Darren SDC RB Thu Aug 13 11:46:24 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

 
How did he look last night? I think after the Mid 4th hes a reasonable pick... hes going to lead the team in touches by a lot IMP; but should lose TDs.

I'm in a 12 Teamer right and this has to be the biggest reach I've seen for Rice

1.01 1. Hail Redskins Peterson, Adrian MIN RB Sun Aug 9 5:58:11 p.m. ET 2009 Will still consider trade offers, but thought I would get the draft started.

1.02 2. Public Enemy Jackson, Steven STL RB Sun Aug 9 5:58:11 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.03 3. Brutus Tomlinson, LaDainian SDC RB Sun Aug 9 6:17:37 p.m. ET 2009

1.04 4. Sinn Fein Jones-Drew, Maurice JAC RB Mon Aug 10 12:34:31 p.m. ET 2009

1.05 5. Playmakers Forte, Matt CHI RB Mon Aug 10 12:34:31 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.06 6. Snake Eyes Turner, Michael ATL RB Mon Aug 10 12:34:31 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.08 8. Yoda of Borg Gore, Frank SFO RB Mon Aug 10 6:18:31 p.m. ET 2009

1.09 9. PrecisionCFC Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB Mon Aug 10 6:18:31 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

1.12 12. Titletown Favres Johnson, Chris TEN RB Mon Aug 10 8:05:47 p.m. ET 2009

2.03 15. Kellysmash Slaton, Steve HOU RB Mon Aug 10 8:27:42 p.m. ET 2009 Loving this pick

2.04 16. PrecisionCFC Westbrook, Brian PHI RB Mon Aug 10 9:17:29 p.m. ET 2009

2.08 20. Playmakers Jacobs, Brandon NYG RB Mon Aug 10 9:42:30 p.m. ET 2009

2.09 21. Sinn Fein Barber, Marion DAL RB Mon Aug 10 9:56:38 p.m. ET 2009

2.12 24. Hail Redskins Portis, Clinton WAS RB Tue Aug 11 3:48:33 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

3.06 30. Flying Fish of Death Grant, Ryan GBP RB Tue Aug 11 8:07:11 p.m. ET 2009

3.07 31. Snake Eyes Rice, Ray BAL RB Tue Aug 11 8:10:30 p.m. ET 2009

3.11 35. Public Enemy Brown, Ronnie MIA RB Tue Aug 11 9:38:46 p.m. ET 2009

3.12 36. Hail Redskins Thomas, Pierre NOS RB Tue Aug 11 9:38:46 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

4.02 38. Public Enemy Moreno, Knowshon DEN RB ® Tue Aug 11 9:41:20 p.m. ET 2009

4.03 39. Brutus Smith, Kevin DET RB Tue Aug 11 9:44:49 p.m. ET 2009

4.08 44. Yoda of Borg McFadden, Darren OAK RB Tue Aug 11 10:29:06 p.m. ET 2009

4.10 46. Kellysmash Bush, Reggie NOS RB Tue Aug 11 10:55:25 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.03 63. Brutus Wells, Chris ARI RB ® Wed Aug 12 12:34:18 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.07 67. Flying Fish of Death Addai, Joseph IND RB Wed Aug 12 2:27:14 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.09 69. PrecisionCFC Johnson, Larry KCC RB Wed Aug 12 6:22:17 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.10 70. Kellysmash Lynch, Marshawn BUF RB Wed Aug 12 6:22:17 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

6.11 71. Detroit Jazz Ward, Derrick TBB RB Wed Aug 12 6:22:17 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.01 73. Titletown Favres Jones, Thomas NYJ RB Wed Aug 12 6:53:53 p.m. ET 2009

7.06 78. Flying Fish of Death Lewis, Jamal CLE RB Wed Aug 12 9:25:23 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

7.07 79. Snake Eyes Benson, Cedric CIN RB Wed Aug 12 9:30:09 p.m. ET 2009

8.11 95. Detroit Jazz Parker, Willie PIT RB Thu Aug 13 2:28:15 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

9.03 99. Kellysmash Jones, Felix DAL RB Thu Aug 13 5:18:33 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

9.05 101. Yoda of Borg Washington, Leon NYJ RB Thu Aug 13 6:26:12 p.m. ET 2009

9.08 104. Playmakers Brown, Donald IND RB ® Thu Aug 13 6:35:44 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

10.04 112. Sinn Fein Jones, Julius SEA RB Thu Aug 13 9:46:34 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

10.09 117. PrecisionCFC Stewart, Jonathan CAR RB Thu Aug 13 10:03:23 p.m. ET 2009

11.02 122. Detroit Jazz Mendenhall, Rashard PIT RB Thu Aug 13 10:46:29 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List

11.05 125. Yoda of Borg Sproles, Darren SDC RB Thu Aug 13 11:46:24 p.m. ET 2009 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
That looks like a keeper league, with the RB's having been well picked over (and kept)... I don't think Rice was a huge reach there.
 
That looks like a keeper league, with the RB's having been well picked over (and kept)... I don't think Rice was a huge reach there.
Yearly Redraft actually. RB Scoring - about .2 a Carry / .5 Rec / 10yds = 1pt / 2 pt Bonus at 100 ru yds / extra pts at 125 ru/re yds
 
KellysHeroes said:
Rovers said:
That looks like a keeper league, with the RB's having been well picked over (and kept)... I don't think Rice was a huge reach there.
Yearly Redraft actually. RB Scoring - about .2 a Carry / .5 Rec / 10yds = 1pt / 2 pt Bonus at 100 ru yds / extra pts at 125 ru/re yds
Why are so many picks missing then?
 
KellysHeroes said:
Rovers said:
That looks like a keeper league, with the RB's having been well picked over (and kept)... I don't think Rice was a huge reach there.
Yearly Redraft actually. RB Scoring - about .2 a Carry / .5 Rec / 10yds = 1pt / 2 pt Bonus at 100 ru yds / extra pts at 125 ru/re yds
I love Rice, but you couldn't pay me to take him above Ronnie Brown.
 
KellysHeroes said:
Rovers said:
That looks like a keeper league, with the RB's having been well picked over (and kept)... I don't think Rice was a huge reach there.
Yearly Redraft actually. RB Scoring - about .2 a Carry / .5 Rec / 10yds = 1pt / 2 pt Bonus at 100 ru yds / extra pts at 125 ru/re yds
I love Rice, but you couldn't pay me to take him above Ronnie Brown.
LOL... my draft picks went Gore, Wayne, Brown, Rice, rounds 1 thru 4.
 
KellysHeroes said:
Rovers said:
That looks like a keeper league, with the RB's having been well picked over (and kept)... I don't think Rice was a huge reach there.
Yearly Redraft actually. RB Scoring - about .2 a Carry / .5 Rec / 10yds = 1pt / 2 pt Bonus at 100 ru yds / extra pts at 125 ru/re yds
Why are so many picks missing then?
I don't think his league is running backs only.
 
I know my valuation of Rice is well above most folks', having taken him at 4.8 in a 12 team IDP dedraft, and maybe it was a round early, but I don't regret jumping for him either. I was also able to get MaGahee in the 19th. If McClain really is to relegated to the FB role almost exclusively, as some reports suggest, this might even be a "steal of the draft" kind of pick. We shall see. Every year I seem to find a player I like based on some info and a lot of hunch, but the funny thing is it usually works out. I remember taking Portis in the second round in his rookie year. Can't tell you the greif I got for that one, but it was golden. Last year it was Salton in the 7th. I am hoping this year it will be Rice. Being able to land MaGahee so late was due to having Rice already. I guess there are no owners in this particular league that think MaGahee will be much of a factor... so that leaves Rice. Right or wrong, I'll bump this thread when the time comes...
:wall: Well, I said I'd bump it, right or wrong....
 

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