Ray Rice video of KO punch released (3 Viewers)

[Young 8]

So...bump Justin Forsett?

No, Flacco

 

[JaxJokers]

So...bump Justin Forsett?

No, Flacco

Do they try Pierce one more time?

 

[B-Deep]

This is hilarious. The VICTIM doesn't care what happened. She begged the NFL to go easy on him and then married him. If she doesn't care, why does anyone else? If your buddy clocked you and knocked you out, and you didn't care, life would go on.

Well, lets be honest here - she probably has a financial incentive for Rice to remain a highly paid employee in the NFL. I would not read anything into her reconciliation with Rice as being done out of pure love - otherwise, why not insist that he quit, and seek anger management counseling prior to getting married.

Call me a skeptic, and I am not saying she got what she deserved when she was punched, but I think she is a far more willing participant in how things have gone down since, and it would not shock me to learn she has reached a financial settlement with Rice that requires her reconciliation.

one of the very common reasons a woman stays in an abusive relationship is because they are financially dependent on the abuser

that does not make it their fault

Not sure what you are saying - we don't really know that she is in an abusive relationship. We know that Rice knocked her out, and that is one hit too many, but if that was a one-off occurrence I would not call it an abusive relationship. The fact that it was done so cavalierly suggests it might not have been a 1-off occurrence, but I don't know any better right now.

As for her - I am sure she could walk away from this relationship with a fair degree of financial security of her own - she does not need him. On the contrary he needed her to be married - so she could not testify. I think they reached an agreement where she agrees to get married, and go on the reconciliation circuit in exchange fro something tangible (not just the notion of being married to an NFL player).

Again, not saying she deserved to be hit, or that she was a willful participant in that aspect - but I do not think she is a "typical" abused spouse who has nowhere (or thinks they have nowhere) to turn. I think she is a willing participant in the relationship at this point - either for love, or for money.

She is in a relationship where she was (obviously) abused and since then she (with the aid of the team) has played many of the classic signs of a victim in denial.

He had her at a press conference and SHE apologized for what you saw in that video. She sat thewre by the man who knocked her out and said she was sorry.

I do not know is she was abused before, you clearly assume she was not. Either way she was abused at least once, we saw that, and anyone who works with victims of domestic abuse will tell you the victim often times downplays it, apologizes, stays, and tries to make the entire situation go away. That very clearly seems to be what is going on here no matter if this is time 1 or time 150...either of which is possible

 

[Tango]

Rice getting pounded here:

http://www.baltimoresun.com/sports/ravens/ravens-insider/bal-should-ray-rice-be-punished-further-after-new-video-surfaced-20140908,0,4709025,post.poll

 

[Hoss Style]

What do people think happened in that elevator prior to the video being released? Any reasonable person already knew he knocked her out, and dragged her out of the elevator. The DA dropped charges against her, but charged Rice after watching the video. That has been public knowledge. Why the outcry now?

That.

Puzzled as all get out why this is a big deal now. In fact, as some have suggested, it's almost not as bad I thought because it's possible she did not get knocked out from the hit but from the fall and it's possible he slapped her instead of a full out punch. Is any of this a good look? Of course not, it's terrible but not worse than what was reported months ago.

I hate mob justice.

I dunno. The video looks a lot worse than how it was being portrayed by the Rice and the Baltimore Ravens.

This...it really isn't that difficult to understand. Plus seeing things with our own eyes elicits a more emotional response that just hearing a story about it.

What do people think happened in that elevator prior to the video being released? Any reasonable person already knew he knocked her out, and dragged her out of the elevator. The DA dropped charges against her, but charged Rice after watching the video. That has been public knowledge. Why the outcry now?

That.

Puzzled as all get out why this is a big deal now. In fact, as some have suggested, it's almost not as bad I thought because it's possible she did not get knocked out from the hit but from the fall and it's possible he slapped her instead of a full out punch. Is any of this a good look? Of course not, it's terrible but not worse than what was reported months ago.

I hate mob justice.

I dunno. The video looks a lot worse than how it was being portrayed by the Rice and the Baltimore Ravens.

How so? From reports this summer he flat knocked her out and dragged her out of an elevator. From that video she came after him and he hit back, which was weak on his part, but the video actually opened up the possibility he did not knock her out but the fall on the railing did and I also can't tell if he slapped or punched her.

Again, what he did was terrible, but I already saw him drag her out of the elevator with little regard months ago and I thought it was a given he KO punched her, which due to that video I'm not sure anymore if it was the hit or fall. So bad? 100% yes. I just don't see it as being worse.

how many times have you seen a man #### back and punch a woman knocking her out?

i have not seen it. To me seeing it with my own eyes is shocking. The same as when i hear about the holocaust it sounds horrible, but when i see the pictures it is far worse. Or when I hear about a death in an accident I understand what happened, but seeing a bloody body on the street really brings it home. Many people are visual in nature, and seeing things makes them more real. Perhaps you are not that way.

Who cares if you see it or not. We already know it happened. Seeing it does not make it worse, I don't even understand this concept. Did you people not see them enter the elevator months ago and leave with him dragging her out? What the hell do you think happened? Can you people not read a book without pictures?

I see what you're getting at, and maybe you were able to visualize what happened from the earlier partial video and the reports, but most people weren't.

I tend to agree with others, though, that seeing something happen always will elicit more response than seeing the aftermath of something that already has happened.

Like seeing someone get shot as opposed to seeing them 20 minutes later when they are covered with the blanket. I would imagine 99.99% of people would react stronger to the seeing the actual crime.

 

[Tango]

Peter King chimes in

http://mmqb.si.com/2014/09/08/ray-rice-nfl-domestic-violence-video-peter-king/

The possibility of never seeing/hearing from Roger Goodell and Peter King is quite the silver lining of this awful story.

King is getting pounded by his readers in the comments...and for good reason.

 

[fatness]

Joe Banner @JoeBanner13 · 58m

Glad to see glazer, Florio and others calling for action. Hard for me to imagine, knowing all the people involved that this won't be fixed

Joe Banner @JoeBanner13 · 38m

Huge cap implications, if Ravens move on from Rice. Structure of last extension provides player leverage. Shouldn't matter. Big misc. charge

 

[B-Deep]

What do people think happened in that elevator prior to the video being released? Any reasonable person already knew he knocked her out, and dragged her out of the elevator. The DA dropped charges against her, but charged Rice after watching the video. That has been public knowledge. Why the outcry now?

That.

Puzzled as all get out why this is a big deal now. In fact, as some have suggested, it's almost not as bad I thought because it's possible she did not get knocked out from the hit but from the fall and it's possible he slapped her instead of a full out punch. Is any of this a good look? Of course not, it's terrible but not worse than what was reported months ago.

I hate mob justice.

I dunno. The video looks a lot worse than how it was being portrayed by the Rice and the Baltimore Ravens.

This...it really isn't that difficult to understand. Plus seeing things with our own eyes elicits a more emotional response that just hearing a story about it.

What do people think happened in that elevator prior to the video being released? Any reasonable person already knew he knocked her out, and dragged her out of the elevator. The DA dropped charges against her, but charged Rice after watching the video. That has been public knowledge. Why the outcry now?

That.

Puzzled as all get out why this is a big deal now. In fact, as some have suggested, it's almost not as bad I thought because it's possible she did not get knocked out from the hit but from the fall and it's possible he slapped her instead of a full out punch. Is any of this a good look? Of course not, it's terrible but not worse than what was reported months ago.

I hate mob justice.

I dunno. The video looks a lot worse than how it was being portrayed by the Rice and the Baltimore Ravens.

How so? From reports this summer he flat knocked her out and dragged her out of an elevator. From that video she came after him and he hit back, which was weak on his part, but the video actually opened up the possibility he did not knock her out but the fall on the railing did and I also can't tell if he slapped or punched her.

Again, what he did was terrible, but I already saw him drag her out of the elevator with little regard months ago and I thought it was a given he KO punched her, which due to that video I'm not sure anymore if it was the hit or fall. So bad? 100% yes. I just don't see it as being worse.

how many times have you seen a man #### back and punch a woman knocking her out?

i have not seen it. To me seeing it with my own eyes is shocking. The same as when i hear about the holocaust it sounds horrible, but when i see the pictures it is far worse. Or when I hear about a death in an accident I understand what happened, but seeing a bloody body on the street really brings it home. Many people are visual in nature, and seeing things makes them more real. Perhaps you are not that way.

Who cares if you see it or not. We already know it happened. Seeing it does not make it worse, I don't even understand this concept. Did you people not see them enter the elevator months ago and leave with him dragging her out? What the hell do you think happened? Can you people not read a book without pictures?

well i would propose if seeing things does not change the impact for you then you are in a minority

it is why the photos of prisoner abuse are such a big deal

it is why looking at someone naked without their pwermission is a big deal

it is why attorneys across this country argue every day to keep potentially inflammatory photos out of trials

it is why hearing your wife cheated on you is not as bad as seeing her boning some guy

and it is why there is an outcry today

Clearly to most people seeing it makes a difference. It seems not only is that not true to you, but you cannot understand it. Given that you'll just have to take it at face value.

 

[Pipes]

What do people think happened in that elevator prior to the video being released? Any reasonable person already knew he knocked her out, and dragged her out of the elevator. The DA dropped charges against her, but charged Rice after watching the video. That has been public knowledge. Why the outcry now?

That.

Puzzled as all get out why this is a big deal now. In fact, as some have suggested, it's almost not as bad I thought because it's possible she did not get knocked out from the hit but from the fall and it's possible he slapped her instead of a full out punch. Is any of this a good look? Of course not, it's terrible but not worse than what was reported months ago.

I hate mob justice.

I dunno. The video looks a lot worse than how it was being portrayed by the Rice and the Baltimore Ravens.

This...it really isn't that difficult to understand. Plus seeing things with our own eyes elicits a more emotional response that just hearing a story about it.

What do people think happened in that elevator prior to the video being released? Any reasonable person already knew he knocked her out, and dragged her out of the elevator. The DA dropped charges against her, but charged Rice after watching the video. That has been public knowledge. Why the outcry now?

That.

Puzzled as all get out why this is a big deal now. In fact, as some have suggested, it's almost not as bad I thought because it's possible she did not get knocked out from the hit but from the fall and it's possible he slapped her instead of a full out punch. Is any of this a good look? Of course not, it's terrible but not worse than what was reported months ago.

I hate mob justice.

I dunno. The video looks a lot worse than how it was being portrayed by the Rice and the Baltimore Ravens.

How so? From reports this summer he flat knocked her out and dragged her out of an elevator. From that video she came after him and he hit back, which was weak on his part, but the video actually opened up the possibility he did not knock her out but the fall on the railing did and I also can't tell if he slapped or punched her.

Again, what he did was terrible, but I already saw him drag her out of the elevator with little regard months ago and I thought it was a given he KO punched her, which due to that video I'm not sure anymore if it was the hit or fall. So bad? 100% yes. I just don't see it as being worse.

how many times have you seen a man #### back and punch a woman knocking her out?

i have not seen it. To me seeing it with my own eyes is shocking. The same as when i hear about the holocaust it sounds horrible, but when i see the pictures it is far worse. Or when I hear about a death in an accident I understand what happened, but seeing a bloody body on the street really brings it home. Many people are visual in nature, and seeing things makes them more real. Perhaps you are not that way.

Who cares if you see it or not. We already know it happened. Seeing it does not make it worse, I don't even understand this concept. Did you people not see them enter the elevator months ago and leave with him dragging her out? What the hell do you think happened? Can you people not read a book without pictures?

Cowherd had a great example this morning. 1. You're told your wife has an affair. 2. You see a video of some guy banging your wife. At the end of the day either option doesn't really matter as your marriage is likely over but what scenario is going to elicit a more emotional response from you?

 

[Quez]

I will be boycotting buying any pink NFL breast cancer swag until the NFL takes a stronger stance on domestic violence.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

A Ravens player told Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report that any support Rice had in the locker room had evaporated.

“I don’t think he has very much support now at all,” the player texted. “I think it’s gone.”

The player said Rice told teammates initially that he was defending himself from an attacking Janay Palmer — such that that matters — and the video released this morning contradicts that flimsy attempt at justification.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/08/report-ray-rice-losing-support-in-ravens-locker-room/

Thats a big deal and could spell his end in Baltimore

 

[fatness]

Who cares if you see it or not. We already know it happened. Seeing it does not make it worse, I don't even understand this concept. Did you people not see them enter the elevator months ago and leave with him dragging her out? What the hell do you think happened? Can you people not read a book without pictures?

Actually we did not know. We didn't know Rice spit on her outside the elevator. We didn't know he cornered her and spit on her in the elevator, and hit her once when she pushed him away. We didn't know how violently he punched her when she walked across the elevator at him after that. The video has been very informative.e

Why are you so upset that people are seeing it?

 

[Fever in the Funkhouse]

Out of curiosity, are Rice owners cutting him? Or is anyone benching him all season but not dropping him? let's assume he plays in games.

 

[Sinn Fein]

This is hilarious. The VICTIM doesn't care what happened. She begged the NFL to go easy on him and then married him. If she doesn't care, why does anyone else? If your buddy clocked you and knocked you out, and you didn't care, life would go on.

Well, lets be honest here - she probably has a financial incentive for Rice to remain a highly paid employee in the NFL. I would not read anything into her reconciliation with Rice as being done out of pure love - otherwise, why not insist that he quit, and seek anger management counseling prior to getting married.

Call me a skeptic, and I am not saying she got what she deserved when she was punched, but I think she is a far more willing participant in how things have gone down since, and it would not shock me to learn she has reached a financial settlement with Rice that requires her reconciliation.

one of the very common reasons a woman stays in an abusive relationship is because they are financially dependent on the abuser

that does not make it their fault

Not sure what you are saying - we don't really know that she is in an abusive relationship. We know that Rice knocked her out, and that is one hit too many, but if that was a one-off occurrence I would not call it an abusive relationship. The fact that it was done so cavalierly suggests it might not have been a 1-off occurrence, but I don't know any better right now.

As for her - I am sure she could walk away from this relationship with a fair degree of financial security of her own - she does not need him. On the contrary he needed her to be married - so she could not testify. I think they reached an agreement where she agrees to get married, and go on the reconciliation circuit in exchange fro something tangible (not just the notion of being married to an NFL player).

Again, not saying she deserved to be hit, or that she was a willful participant in that aspect - but I do not think she is a "typical" abused spouse who has nowhere (or thinks they have nowhere) to turn. I think she is a willing participant in the relationship at this point - either for love, or for money.

She is in a relationship where she was (obviously) abused and since then she (with the aid of the team) has played many of the classic signs of a victim in denial.

He had her at a press conference and SHE apologized for what you saw in that video. She sat thewre by the man who knocked her out and said she was sorry.

I do not know is she was abused before, you clearly assume she was not. Either way she was abused at least once, we saw that, and anyone who works with victims of domestic abuse will tell you the victim often times downplays it, apologizes, stays, and tries to make the entire situation go away. That very clearly seems to be what is going on here no matter if this is time 1 or time 150...either of which is possible

I hear you - I do. And I am not assuming she has not been abused before - just not assuming that she was. I don't classify a one-off incident as an abusive relationship - it is abusive, and deserving of punishment, but I would expect a pattern of abuse before I would call someone in an abusive relationship. That may have existed here, I don't know.

But - given her circumstances - I think she knew/knows she could have walked away a very wealthy woman here. I think she still could walk away - unlike many women who do not have the financial wherewithal to walk away from an abusive relationship. Rice needed her, more than she need him - so I think they reached an agreement to satisfy both parties. Its just a guess on my part - and not blaming her at all - I just do not buy the reconciliation bit any more than you apparently do - but just for different reasons.

 

[JaxJokers]

Who cares if you see it or not. We already know it happened. Seeing it does not make it worse, I don't even understand this concept. Did you people not see them enter the elevator months ago and leave with him dragging her out? What the hell do you think happened? Can you people not read a book without pictures?

Actually we did not know. We didn't know Rice spit on her outside the elevator. We didn't know he cornered her and spit on her in the elevator, and hit her once when she pushed him away. We didn't know how violently he punched her when she walked across the elevator at him after that. The video has been very informative.e

Why are you so upset that people are seeing it?

Domestic violence is domestic violence, whether he hit her once or ten times, it's too many, and I think most people assumed he hit her.

 

[HellToupee]

I wonder how those womens Ray Rice jerseys that the NFL network ran ad nauseam are selling

 

[Tango]

A Ravens player told Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report that any support Rice had in the locker room had evaporated.

“I don’t think he has very much support now at all,” the player texted. “I think it’s gone.”

The player said Rice told teammates initially that he was defending himself from an attacking Janay Palmer — such that that matters — and the video released this morning contradicts that flimsy attempt at justification.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/08/report-ray-rice-losing-support-in-ravens-locker-room/

Thats a big deal and could spell his end in Baltimore

Yes, huge. He is getting it from all angles. His team, other teams' players, NFL, presumably NFLPA behind closed doors, the public.

 

[Hoss Style]

Who cares if you see it or not. We already know it happened. Seeing it does not make it worse, I don't even understand this concept. Did you people not see them enter the elevator months ago and leave with him dragging her out? What the hell do you think happened? Can you people not read a book without pictures?

Actually we did not know. We didn't know Rice spit on her outside the elevator. We didn't know he cornered her and spit on her in the elevator, and hit her once when she pushed him away. We didn't know how violently he punched her when she walked across the elevator at him after that. The video has been very informative.e

Why are you so upset that people are seeing it?

Domestic violence is domestic violence, whether he hit her once or ten times, it's too many, and I think most people assumed he hit her.

No, we didn't know. I'm with fatness on this one. Like I've explained a jillion times, there's tons of ways people get knocked out/knock themselves out/lie about how they got knocked out.

 

[B-Deep]

This is hilarious. The VICTIM doesn't care what happened. She begged the NFL to go easy on him and then married him. If she doesn't care, why does anyone else? If your buddy clocked you and knocked you out, and you didn't care, life would go on.

Well, lets be honest here - she probably has a financial incentive for Rice to remain a highly paid employee in the NFL. I would not read anything into her reconciliation with Rice as being done out of pure love - otherwise, why not insist that he quit, and seek anger management counseling prior to getting married.

Call me a skeptic, and I am not saying she got what she deserved when she was punched, but I think she is a far more willing participant in how things have gone down since, and it would not shock me to learn she has reached a financial settlement with Rice that requires her reconciliation.

one of the very common reasons a woman stays in an abusive relationship is because they are financially dependent on the abuser

that does not make it their fault

Not sure what you are saying - we don't really know that she is in an abusive relationship. We know that Rice knocked her out, and that is one hit too many, but if that was a one-off occurrence I would not call it an abusive relationship. The fact that it was done so cavalierly suggests it might not have been a 1-off occurrence, but I don't know any better right now.

As for her - I am sure she could walk away from this relationship with a fair degree of financial security of her own - she does not need him. On the contrary he needed her to be married - so she could not testify. I think they reached an agreement where she agrees to get married, and go on the reconciliation circuit in exchange fro something tangible (not just the notion of being married to an NFL player).

Again, not saying she deserved to be hit, or that she was a willful participant in that aspect - but I do not think she is a "typical" abused spouse who has nowhere (or thinks they have nowhere) to turn. I think she is a willing participant in the relationship at this point - either for love, or for money.

She is in a relationship where she was (obviously) abused and since then she (with the aid of the team) has played many of the classic signs of a victim in denial.

He had her at a press conference and SHE apologized for what you saw in that video. She sat thewre by the man who knocked her out and said she was sorry.

I do not know is she was abused before, you clearly assume she was not. Either way she was abused at least once, we saw that, and anyone who works with victims of domestic abuse will tell you the victim often times downplays it, apologizes, stays, and tries to make the entire situation go away. That very clearly seems to be what is going on here no matter if this is time 1 or time 150...either of which is possible

I hear you - I do. And I am not assuming she has not been abused before - just not assuming that she was. I don't classify a one-off incident as an abusive relationship - it is abusive, and deserving of punishment, but I would expect a pattern of abuse before I would call someone in an abusive relationship. That may have existed here, I don't know.

But - given her circumstances - I think she knew/knows she could have walked away a very wealthy woman here. I think she still could walk away - unlike many women who do not have the financial wherewithal to walk away from an abusive relationship. Rice needed her, more than she need him - so I think they reached an agreement to satisfy both parties. Its just a guess on my part - and not blaming her at all - I just do not buy the reconciliation bit any more than you apparently do - but just for different reasons.

it's not as simple as money

it is a relationship, she is vested in it, and she was if only once a victim. She has all the same issues any woman trying to leave does, just because she may be able to cash in more, MAY be able to, does not change that., And remember, she'd have to feel like she had the power to get that money and to leave, typically one of the side effects of abuse is not empowering the victim but making them feel trapped. Having this play out on the national media could easily intensify that feeling.

Maybe you are right that she scored a big money deal and is emotionally fine, I'd say the evidence of past victims of abuse make it less than probable.

 

[Godsbrother]

What do people think happened in that elevator prior to the video being released? Any reasonable person already knew he knocked her out, and dragged her out of the elevator. The DA dropped charges against her, but charged Rice after watching the video. That has been public knowledge. Why the outcry now?

That.

Puzzled as all get out why this is a big deal now. In fact, as some have suggested, it's almost not as bad I thought because it's possible she did not get knocked out from the hit but from the fall and it's possible he slapped her instead of a full out punch. Is any of this a good look? Of course not, it's terrible but not worse than what was reported months ago.

I hate mob justice.

I dunno. The video looks a lot worse than how it was being portrayed by the Rice and the Baltimore Ravens.

This...it really isn't that difficult to understand. Plus seeing things with our own eyes elicits a more emotional response that just hearing a story about it.

What do people think happened in that elevator prior to the video being released? Any reasonable person already knew he knocked her out, and dragged her out of the elevator. The DA dropped charges against her, but charged Rice after watching the video. That has been public knowledge. Why the outcry now?

That.

Puzzled as all get out why this is a big deal now. In fact, as some have suggested, it's almost not as bad I thought because it's possible she did not get knocked out from the hit but from the fall and it's possible he slapped her instead of a full out punch. Is any of this a good look? Of course not, it's terrible but not worse than what was reported months ago.

I hate mob justice.

I dunno. The video looks a lot worse than how it was being portrayed by the Rice and the Baltimore Ravens.

How so? From reports this summer he flat knocked her out and dragged her out of an elevator. From that video she came after him and he hit back, which was weak on his part, but the video actually opened up the possibility he did not knock her out but the fall on the railing did and I also can't tell if he slapped or punched her.

Again, what he did was terrible, but I already saw him drag her out of the elevator with little regard months ago and I thought it was a given he KO punched her, which due to that video I'm not sure anymore if it was the hit or fall. So bad? 100% yes. I just don't see it as being worse.

how many times have you seen a man #### back and punch a woman knocking her out?

i have not seen it. To me seeing it with my own eyes is shocking. The same as when i hear about the holocaust it sounds horrible, but when i see the pictures it is far worse. Or when I hear about a death in an accident I understand what happened, but seeing a bloody body on the street really brings it home. Many people are visual in nature, and seeing things makes them more real. Perhaps you are not that way.

Who cares if you see it or not. We already know it happened. Seeing it does not make it worse, I don't even understand this concept. Did you people not see them enter the elevator months ago and leave with him dragging her out? What the hell do you think happened? Can you people not read a book without pictures?

It was being portrayed that he was being assaulted by her and he hit her somewhat out of self-defense and just used a little too much force. That's not what I see in that video

 

[got_nugs]

Nicole Holder is so pissed she didn't have a camera.

 

[meanjoegreen]

Who cares if you see it or not. We already know it happened. Seeing it does not make it worse, I don't even understand this concept. Did you people not see them enter the elevator months ago and leave with him dragging her out? What the hell do you think happened? Can you people not read a book without pictures?

Actually we did not know. We didn't know Rice spit on her outside the elevator. We didn't know he cornered her and spit on her in the elevator, and hit her once when she pushed him away. We didn't know how violently he punched her when she walked across the elevator at him after that. The video has been very informative.e

Why are you so upset that people are seeing it?

Actually you can't see spit coming out of Rice's mouth, and she doesn't make any motion to wipe anything off of her. He could have been leaning forward calling her a c*** or something like that.

 

[fatness]

Who cares if you see it or not. We already know it happened. Seeing it does not make it worse, I don't even understand this concept. Did you people not see them enter the elevator months ago and leave with him dragging her out? What the hell do you think happened? Can you people not read a book without pictures?

Actually we did not know. We didn't know Rice spit on her outside the elevator. We didn't know he cornered her and spit on her in the elevator, and hit her once when she pushed him away. We didn't know how violently he punched her when she walked across the elevator at him after that. The video has been very informative.e

Why are you so upset that people are seeing it?

Domestic violence is domestic violence, whether he hit her once or ten times, it's too many, and I think most people assumed he hit her.

They may have assumed things. They did not know all the details in the video. Now they do and they are more informed, and they don't need so many assumptions. I still do not understand why you are upset at people learning what the video showed.

 

[meanjoegreen]

A Ravens player told Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report that any support Rice had in the locker room had evaporated.

“I don’t think he has very much support now at all,” the player texted. “I think it’s gone.”

The player said Rice told teammates initially that he was defending himself from an attacking Janay Palmer — such that that matters — and the video released this morning contradicts that flimsy attempt at justification.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/08/report-ray-rice-losing-support-in-ravens-locker-room/

Thats a big deal and could spell his end in Baltimore

La Canfora said Rice didn't sugarcoat what happened to the Ravens, and what is on that video is in line with what he told them happened.

 

[meanjoegreen]

I find it odd that TMZ could get the video, but the NFL couldn't.

 

[Tango]

A Ravens player told Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report that any support Rice had in the locker room had evaporated.

“I don’t think he has very much support now at all,” the player texted. “I think it’s gone.”

The player said Rice told teammates initially that he was defending himself from an attacking Janay Palmer — such that that matters — and the video released this morning contradicts that flimsy attempt at justification.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/08/report-ray-rice-losing-support-in-ravens-locker-room/

Thats a big deal and could spell his end in Baltimore

La Canfora said Rice didn't sugarcoat what happened to the Ravens, and what is on that video is in line with what he told them happened.

Do you think that somehow helps Rice here? It doesnt. It only hurts the Ravens.

 

[JaxJokers]

I find it odd that TMZ could get the video, but the NFL couldn't.

Hotel is going out of business, selling everything they got to make a little money first.

 

[meanjoegreen]

A Ravens player told Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report that any support Rice had in the locker room had evaporated.

“I don’t think he has very much support now at all,” the player texted. “I think it’s gone.”

The player said Rice told teammates initially that he was defending himself from an attacking Janay Palmer — such that that matters — and the video released this morning contradicts that flimsy attempt at justification.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/08/report-ray-rice-losing-support-in-ravens-locker-room/

Thats a big deal and could spell his end in Baltimore

La Canfora said Rice didn't sugarcoat what happened to the Ravens, and what is on that video is in line with what he told them happened.

Do you think that somehow helps Rice here? It doesnt. It only hurts the Ravens.

Did I say that it helps him?

 

[IheartGuinness]

I doubt the Ravens release him.

 

[mphtrilogy]

I say hes cut by 6pm

 

[Tom in Albany]

I've already taken action. He's been cut from my fantasy roster and no one is allowed to pick him up.

More leagues need to do this to send a message.

 

[renesauz]

Haven't read the whole thread, but this whole thing disturbs me.

Domestic violence/assault is a horrible thing, and the NFL is right to take a stand on it. They were right to suspend Rice, and I absolutely understand the argument that his suspension was too short.

That said, the current mob mentality seems to be that the Ravens should release him and he should not be allowed back into the NFL. It is this argument/thought that I find disturbing. There is no equivalent job for an NFL RB (The CFL at 1/10th the pay is NOT equivalent!) Taking away his career and literally millions of dollars is not a just punishment.

I realize that many people in normal jobs might lose their jobs over something like this (but hardly the majority), but the overwhelming majority of those would be able to find similar jobs at similar wages in their chosen career. The exceptions would be in special places where we rightfully expect a higher level of accountability (police officer).

Ray Rice was way wrong, but the mob is just as wrong now.

 

[False Start]

I will be boycotting buying any pink NFL breast cancer swag until the NFL takes a stronger stance on domestic violence.

Yeah, stop helping cancer victims because you dont like a punishment issued. Seems very fair and not irrational at all.

 

[Premier]

I've already taken action. He's been cut from my fantasy roster and no one is allowed to pick him up.

More leagues need to do this to send a message.

That'll teach 'em

 

[IheartGuinness]

I've already taken action. He's been cut from my fantasy roster and no one is allowed to pick him up.

More leagues need to do this to send a message.

My league has a similar policy with Rae Carruth. Just instituted it yesterday.

 

[Tango]

A Ravens player told Mike Freeman of Bleacher Report that any support Rice had in the locker room had evaporated.

“I don’t think he has very much support now at all,” the player texted. “I think it’s gone.”

The player said Rice told teammates initially that he was defending himself from an attacking Janay Palmer — such that that matters — and the video released this morning contradicts that flimsy attempt at justification.

http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2014/09/08/report-ray-rice-losing-support-in-ravens-locker-room/

Thats a big deal and could spell his end in Baltimore

La Canfora said Rice didn't sugarcoat what happened to the Ravens, and what is on that video is in line with what he told them happened.

Do you think that somehow helps Rice here? It doesnt. It only hurts the Ravens.

Did I say that it helps him?

I was asking a question...not saying you said anything

 

[hagmania]

I will be boycotting buying any pink NFL breast cancer swag until the NFL takes a stronger stance on domestic violence.

Yeah, stop helping cancer victims because you dont like a punishment issued. Seems very fair and not irrational at all.

Given the level of comprehension I've come to expect from you in reading this thread, I'm not surprised this comment whooshed right over you.

 

[False Start]

I've already taken action. He's been cut from my fantasy roster and no one is allowed to pick him up.

More leagues need to do this to send a message.

You are not allowing others to pick him up in a fantasy league based of your personal beliefs? Wow.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Out of curiosity, are Rice owners cutting him? Or is anyone benching him all season but not dropping him? let's assume he plays in games.

This is a tough call. I will be honest, I am outraged at what he did. I am trying my best to trade him, for nearly anything as I do not want him on my team. However, if no further punishment is doled out I will consider playing him if he is the starter. I mean honestly, after the Ray Lewis stuff, did people run to drop him in IDP leagues, or the Ravens D in standard leagues? Shoot, how long did people carry Hernandez on rosters (or maybe even still do)?

 

[Tango]

I doubt the Ravens release him.

He has been released by the Ravens.

 

[Tango]

That didnt take long!

 

[Gvindy]

He gone

 

[False Start]

I will be boycotting buying any pink NFL breast cancer swag until the NFL takes a stronger stance on domestic violence.

Yeah, stop helping cancer victims because you dont like a punishment issued. Seems very fair and not irrational at all.

Given the level of comprehension I've come to expect from you in reading this thread, I'm not surprised this comment whooshed right over you.

Like I said, you seem fair and not irrational at all.

What else could you possibly mean by your statement? The two have nothing to do with each other. Boycotting helping women to help women is counter productive. Ironic you talk about someone else missing the point.

 

[Da Gildz]

Ravens HAVE RELEASED RAY RICE!

 

[njherdfan]

He's been cut, per Schefter.

 

[False Start]

Is this over now, he has been released. His income has suffered. You want to get on him for hitting his wife, which is fine, but want him fired so he cant support here. American justice.

Now give him the death penalty and everyone will be happy.

So now no one can complain, they got what they wanted.

 

[Ojaays]

Tom Pelissero ‏ @ TomPelissero 7s

Well then. RT @ Ravens: The # Ravens have terminated RB Ray Rice's contract this afternoon.

 

[IheartGuinness]

I doubt the Ravens release him.

He has been released by the Ravens.

I'm shocked. So much for Harbaugh's comments, then....

 

[Ojaays]

Good riddance you POS .

Now, Mr. Goodell, you my friend, have some splainin to do.

 

[B-Deep]

well i am surprised