Ray Rice video of KO punch released (2 Viewers)

[fatness]

But that's the point, you have to look at this situation as a whole and that is not what happened, this will anger some but its not as simple as man punching woman. Those without the mental capacity to understand that will respond with the typical "A Man should never hit a woman regardless."I am not for beating women, but can see situations where someone would do it and be right in doing so.

But by putting a blanket on it you cant talk about the situation rationally because women are human beings with the capacity to hurt and kill a man just the same as a man can to a woman. What if she had a gun or a knife? Then I'm sure rationally we can say its OK to do what you have to. I do not have all the facts on the Ray Rice case, as its a personal family matter. I think Ray is scum from the facts that we have, but if she hypothetically slept with his friend in his bed on his birthday and got an STD that she gave him and told him their child aint his while spitting in his face." Then yes, she is lucky to just be punched.

Good lord.

 

[jurb26]

The startling thing about that video, outside of the actual punch, was how calm he was afterwards. Just watching that, u have to think this has happened before, in fact I'd be pretty stunned if it hasn't. He was so matter of fact/nonchalant, chilling actually.

I didn't get that feel from it. Maybe because we couldn't see his face. It looked like he didn't know what to do IMO.

 

[Da Gildz]

Hitting the woman was extremely bad, but what I saw was worse is that he had no remorse or respect. I never had hit my wife, but if I did and knocked her unconscious, I'd be wanted to check for a pulse or call 911 or something. Just dragging her out of the elevator and saying "oh, lets not forget the shoe" is mind blowing. Shows you have no care for her life.

People do strange things when they know they are in massive trouble and the shock of reality sets in. I think that is what happened to Rice, not that it makes it excusable. He went into panic mode because he knew there was no getting out of it.

Or he was drunk, has done it multiple times and was completely care free about it, also not realizing there were cameras in the elevator.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Hitting the woman was extremely bad, but what I saw was worse is that he had no remorse or respect. I never had hit my wife, but if I did and knocked her unconscious, I'd be wanted to check for a pulse or call 911 or something. Just dragging her out of the elevator and saying "oh, lets not forget the shoe" is mind blowing. Shows you have no care for her life.

People do strange things when they know they are in massive trouble and the shock of reality sets in. I think that is what happened to Rice, not that it makes it excusable. He went into panic mode because he knew there was no getting out of it.

This is how I took it...for all I know he could have been really upset. We couldnt even see his face.

 

[Da Gildz]

Hitting the woman was extremely bad, but what I saw was worse is that he had no remorse or respect. I never had hit my wife, but if I did and knocked her unconscious, I'd be wanted to check for a pulse or call 911 or something. Just dragging her out of the elevator and saying "oh, lets not forget the shoe" is mind blowing. Shows you have no care for her life.

People do strange things when they know they are in massive trouble and the shock of reality sets in. I think that is what happened to Rice, not that it makes it excusable. He went into panic mode because he knew there was no getting out of it.

This is how I took it...for all I know he could have been really upset. We couldnt even see his face.

He was nudging her with his FOOT while she laid their motionless... Man, did u guys watch the same video?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Hitting the woman was extremely bad, but what I saw was worse is that he had no remorse or respect. I never had hit my wife, but if I did and knocked her unconscious, I'd be wanted to check for a pulse or call 911 or something. Just dragging her out of the elevator and saying "oh, lets not forget the shoe" is mind blowing. Shows you have no care for her life.

People do strange things when they know they are in massive trouble and the shock of reality sets in. I think that is what happened to Rice, not that it makes it excusable. He went into panic mode because he knew there was no getting out of it.

This is how I took it...for all I know he could have been really upset. We couldnt even see his face.

He was nudging her with his FOOT while she laid their motionless... Man, did u guys watch the same video?

I did and I still took it like he panicked and knew he was F'd

 

[TheFanatic]

For those more outraged now about the video of what we all knew happened, I have to ask, would Michael Vick be in the NFL right now if there was video footage of him killing those dogs?

 

[TheFanatic]

For those more outraged now about the video of what we all knew happened, I have to ask, would Michael Vick be in the NFL right now if there was video footage of him killing those dogs?

 

[jurb26]

Hitting the woman was extremely bad, but what I saw was worse is that he had no remorse or respect. I never had hit my wife, but if I did and knocked her unconscious, I'd be wanted to check for a pulse or call 911 or something. Just dragging her out of the elevator and saying "oh, lets not forget the shoe" is mind blowing. Shows you have no care for her life.

People do strange things when they know they are in massive trouble and the shock of reality sets in. I think that is what happened to Rice, not that it makes it excusable. He went into panic mode because he knew there was no getting out of it.

This is how I took it...for all I know he could have been really upset. We couldnt even see his face.

He was nudging her with his FOOT while she laid their motionless... Man, did u guys watch the same video?

I did and I still took it like he panicked and knew he was F'd

As did I but how dare we disagree?

 

[Bigboy10182000]

For those more outraged now about the video of what we all knew happened, I have to ask, would Michael Vick be in the NFL right now if there was video footage of him killing those dogs?

Judging by this situation the answer would be a HELL NO. Someone may have even tried to kill him, asked for tons of coaches to be fired and jailed his entire family

 

[Da Gildz]

Hitting the woman was extremely bad, but what I saw was worse is that he had no remorse or respect. I never had hit my wife, but if I did and knocked her unconscious, I'd be wanted to check for a pulse or call 911 or something. Just dragging her out of the elevator and saying "oh, lets not forget the shoe" is mind blowing. Shows you have no care for her life.

People do strange things when they know they are in massive trouble and the shock of reality sets in. I think that is what happened to Rice, not that it makes it excusable. He went into panic mode because he knew there was no getting out of it.

This is how I took it...for all I know he could have been really upset. We couldnt even see his face.

He was nudging her with his FOOT while she laid their motionless... Man, did u guys watch the same video?

I did and I still took it like he panicked and knew he was F'd

I don't get where u see panic? There is nothing in his actions afterwards to suggest he was panicked. It was anything but. Heck if he just froze and did nothing then I can see your side. He was casually nudging her with his shoe, dragging her around on the ground. I see zero signs of panic, He didn't even look up to see if there was a camera, I really think that thought didn't even occur to him. Guess everyone can perceive what they want...

 

[Noah Davis]

Would you rather have an NFL player punch their significant other.....or get behind the wheel drunk and end up killing your family?

 

[dickey moe]

For those more outraged now about the video of what we all knew happened, I have to ask, would Michael Vick be in the NFL right now if there was video footage of him killing those dogs?

Probably not.

 

[fourd]

Would you rather have an NFL player punch their significant other.....or get behind the wheel drunk and end up killing your family?

Neither? Didn't realize we had this choice.

 

[Bigboy10182000]

Hitting the woman was extremely bad, but what I saw was worse is that he had no remorse or respect. I never had hit my wife, but if I did and knocked her unconscious, I'd be wanted to check for a pulse or call 911 or something. Just dragging her out of the elevator and saying "oh, lets not forget the shoe" is mind blowing. Shows you have no care for her life.

People do strange things when they know they are in massive trouble and the shock of reality sets in. I think that is what happened to Rice, not that it makes it excusable. He went into panic mode because he knew there was no getting out of it.

This is how I took it...for all I know he could have been really upset. We couldnt even see his face.

He was nudging her with his FOOT while she laid their motionless... Man, did u guys watch the same video?

I did and I still took it like he panicked and knew he was F'd

I don't get where u see panic? There is nothing in his actions afterwards to suggest he was panicked. It was anything but. Heck if he just froze and did nothing then I can see your side. He was casually nudging her with his shoe, dragging her around on the ground. I see zero signs of panic, He didn't even look up to see if there was a camera, I really think that thought didn't even occur to him. Guess everyone can perceive what they want...

The dragging her around even looked panicked to me. He didnt look like he had a plan and seemed lost. Nothing after he knocked her out made sense which is why I believe he was panicking.

 

[Da Gildz]

Yea I think he was highly intoxicated and unsure of wtf to do there...I myself don't view that as acting panicked but again, any 2 can perceive it differently.

 

[Ksquared]

Lol, at grabbing the snippets here and there in this story and then jumping to conclusions by everyone.

Did he look remorseful?? I have no idea, but I do know they were drunk enough to be arguing load enough to be asked to leave the casino. This is where they entered the elevator and the biggest thing to maybe teach from this is don't get drunk...not a popular stance, but obviously Ray Rice could not handle his drink and control himself.

The new spousal abuse policy had wiggle room built in to it when announced. It is not 6 games and a lifetime ban, it was purposely stated that extenuation circumstances could increase or decrease the penalty. So it could be adjusted to the situation and circumstances...several reporters mentioned this. And as Greg Robinson found out, do not lie to the boss. The penalties are increased dramatically. It appears clearly that Rice and his wife created a very different story to both the NFL, the Ravens, and his teammates than what the video showed.

 

[Noah Davis]

Would you rather have an NFL player punch their significant other.....or get behind the wheel drunk and end up killing your family?

Neither? Didn't realize we had this choice.

Just a hypothetical I was turning over in my head. when I was trying to figure out how they determine punishment guidelines. Domestic violence puts exactly one other person at risk. Drunk Driving potentially puts every single person they pass on the road at risk.

If I were to punch my wife I wouldn't lose my job, but driving drunk is a zero tolerance policy at my work. I'd imagine it's the same for a lot of others as well.

I'm not trying to support or defend anything.....all I'm saying is it appears they put the punishment guidelines together rather haphazardly.

 

[justinl]

Would you rather have an NFL player punch their significant other.....or get behind the wheel drunk and end up killing your family?

Neither? Didn't realize we had this choice.

Just a hypothetical I was turning over in my head. when I was trying to figure out how they determine punishment guidelines. Domestic violence puts exactly one other person at risk. Drunk Driving potentially puts every single person they pass on the road at risk.

If I were to punch my wife I wouldn't lose my job, but driving drunk is a zero tolerance policy at my work. I'd imagine it's the same for a lot of others as well.

I'm not trying to support or defend anything.....all I'm saying is it appears they put the punishment guidelines together rather haphazardly.

If there was a video of you punching your wife, and your boss and coworkers saw it. You would probably be fired. The difference with the NFL is that they give 2nd and 3rd chances to their employees. There was a precedent set, and it was 2 games. Then because of public backlash, Goodell made an executive decision to make it 6 games. We knew Rice was guilty from the first video. But now that the 2nd video made him more guilty, Goodell decided to make an example out of Rice and just give him the indefinite suspension.

 

[Doug B]

But by putting a blanket on it you cant talk about the situation rationally because women are human beings with the capacity to hurt and kill a man just the same as a man can to a woman. What if she had a gun or a knife? Then I'm sure rationally we can say its OK to do what you have to.

People aren't throwing a blanket on anything -- this is a specific set of circumstances, on tape no less.

You're raising a straw man -- Mrs. Rice didn't have a knife or a gun. And yes, we know that.

I do not have all the facts on the Ray Rice case, as its a personal family matter. I think Ray is scum from the facts that we have, but if she hypothetically slept with his friend in his bed on his birthday and got an STD that she gave him and told him their child aint his while spitting in his face."

You've raised a second straw man -- the conceivability of an contrived set of circumstances has no bearing on this spefcific Ray Rice case.

 

[Doug B]

I'm not trying to support or defend anything.....all I'm saying is it appears they put the punishment guidelines together rather haphazardly.

This is true -- the out will be that Rice's indefinite suspension was for misrepresenting the case to league officials a la Gregg Williams. Kind of an internal "obstruction of justice" charge.

 

[massraider]

But by putting a blanket on it you cant talk about the situation rationally because women are human beings with the capacity to hurt and kill a man just the same as a man can to a woman. What if she had a gun or a knife? Then I'm sure rationally we can say its OK to do what you have to.

People aren't throwing a blanket on anything -- this is a specific set of circumstances, on tape no less.

You're raising a straw man -- Mrs. Rice didn't have a knife or a gun. And yes, we know that.

I do not have all the facts on the Ray Rice case, as its a personal family matter. I think Ray is scum from the facts that we have, but if she hypothetically slept with his friend in his bed on his birthday and got an STD that she gave him and told him their child aint his while spitting in his face."

You've raised a second straw man -- the conceivability of an contrived set of circumstances has no bearing on this spefcific Ray Rice case.

He's trying to keep it simple for the uneducated here, which appear to be all of us.

 

[Fly]

You would think Ray Rice killed someone if you read these threads or watch the media.

This is going to sound snarky, but I don't mean it to be.

Since we've been throwing around hypotheticals in this thread... If Jenay ended up dead because of a Ray Rice punch would your opinion of this situation change?

Without question it would, but then we would be talking murder and manslaughter, not assault. But that's the point, you have to look at this situation as a whole and that is not what happened,

But then we're viewing the situation based on outcomes and not on actions which I think is mostly wrong. He didn't have any intent to kill her. It's a vile act partly because he could have killed her. And it's partly why domestic violence as a whole is despicable (whether that's a husband striking with his fists or a wife stabbing with a knife). At that point he/she is putting the life of a "loved" one at risk all because he/she can't suppress anger and/or violent urges. It is an extremely selfish act. I would argue that even if a female "hypothetically slept with his friend in his bed on his birthday and got an STD that she gave him and told him their child aint his while spitting in his face" she still wouldn't deserve even the possibility of death.

 

[TheFanatic]

Whole lot of people claiming they are seeing or not seeing stuff in that video. I see a man hit a woman on some very choppy video. How the hell can you determine if he was feeling remorse or not? I can't tell if he's crying, if his face is scrunched with regret or if he's stone cold straight faced. I sure as hell can't tell what his level of intoxication is. What he felt or showed or whatever leading up to and after the event based on this choppy video needs to stop. That's your own bias showing you what you want to see. Maybe you saw better video than I did. But if it's the same stuff I saw, everyone needs to stop with that crap...

They guy decked his wife/GF/whatever. That we can clearly see. The rest is just conjecture.

 

[fatness]

Would you rather have an NFL player punch their significant other.....or get behind the wheel drunk and end up killing your family?

Nobody would want them to do either one. Why do you ask?

edit: Just saw your response above and I agree. The NFL's punishment guidelines have been haphazard pretty much since Goodell has been in office.

 

[Noah Davis]

I'm not trying to support or defend anything.....all I'm saying is it appears they put the punishment guidelines together rather haphazardly.

This is true -- the out will be that Rice's indefinite suspension was for misrepresenting the case to league officials a la Gregg Williams. Kind of an internal "obstruction of justice" charge.

I agree with this....but I would think they would base their punishment on some type of risk measurement. Apparently Dog Fighting and Wife Beating are the ultimate sins to the NFL?

Dante Stallworth killed someone yet there was not this type of media assault and he played 3 more years with significantly less public hatred than Mike Vick or Ray Rice is facing currently.....that blows my mind.

It almost makes me question if I am in the minority for valuing human life?

**Okay I'm off my introspective tree stump now** carry on.

 

[Doug B]

I'm not trying to support or defend anything.....all I'm saying is it appears they put the punishment guidelines together rather haphazardly.

This is true -- the out will be that Rice's indefinite suspension was for misrepresenting the case to league officials a la Gregg Williams. Kind of an internal "obstruction of justice" charge.

I agree with this....but I would think they would base their punishment on some type of risk measurement. Apparently Dog Fighting and Wife Beating are the ultimate sins to the NFL?

Well ... Rae Carruth and Aaron Hernandez.

 

[Pipes]

Would you rather have an NFL player punch their significant other.....or get behind the wheel drunk and end up killing your family?

Neither? Didn't realize we had this choice.

Just a hypothetical I was turning over in my head. when I was trying to figure out how they determine punishment guidelines. Domestic violence puts exactly one other person at risk. Drunk Driving potentially puts every single person they pass on the road at risk.

If I were to punch my wife I wouldn't lose my job, but driving drunk is a zero tolerance policy at my work. I'd imagine it's the same for a lot of others as well.

I'm not trying to support or defend anything.....all I'm saying is it appears they put the punishment guidelines together rather haphazardly.

It's all about protecting the shield...nothing more. Once that video came out the NFL had to do something without risking alienating their fan base.

 

[Otis]

Stupid question maybe but I swear I saw this video months ago. Was it not available online somewhere? Am I confusing this with another similar video?

I think the one that was released intially was just of him dragging her unconcious body from the elevator. I don't remember seeing any video released of him physically hitting her.

That could be. Why was only half of it released before?

And what exactly did people think happened in the part where he punched her, just before she was knocked out cold and being dragged out of an elevator?

 

[fatness]

On Tuesday morning, when I called Jenesse Center, a Los Angeles domestic violence intervention program, its department heads were in a regular meeting, talking about this very topic. They’d all seen the video of Rice punching his then-fiancee in the Atlantic City casino elevator, watching her drop like a stone and then being dragged out of the elevator into a hallway.

All found it chilling. Not one believed it was his first assault.

“Had it been the first time,” said Debra Ward, Jenesse director for strategic development, “he would have gone straight to her to see if she was doing well, and he did the opposite. It didn’t even faze him.”

“One of the myths about abuse and domestic violence is that the violence happens when they lose control,” said Angela Parker, Jenesse director of training and programs. “That is not true. It is all about control. He didn’t just black out and hit her. It’s a pattern of violence where he has used violence to control her, to keep her in line, to keep her quiet. There’s always a build up to it.”

http://www.latimes.com/local/abcarian/la-me-ra-domestic-violence-experts-ray-rice-assault-20140909-column.html

 

[GROOT]

All of this knee-jerk stuff after the fact looks horrible. Ray admitted exactly what he did long ago already, the video showed nothing that the NFL, Ravens, EA, and others didn't know already. He said himself that he struck her and knocked her out. In the video, he strikes her and knocks her out. Was 2 games too light? Absolutely. Do the Ravens and Goodell come off looking like cowards? No doubt. On top of that, Goodell just violated his own policy and enforced a rule created after the crime, which was known as every bit this bad before the policy was even considered. Pathetic.

Meanwhile, bad as Rice's conduct was, the NFL has no trouble leaving players on the roster with DUI manslaughter --> IE players who have *killed* someone through terrible judgment. And yes, killing someone is worse than knocking someone out. It's the kind of league where punching someone in the face gets extremely variable punishment depending on who that person is, and where slamming a 1 ton vehicle into someone while drunk and killing them is considered no big deal compared to punching someone in the face and knocking them out. Why? Publicity. That's all it is. What if Rice had knocked out an innocent guy? What if it was an unrelated woman to him that was harassing him? The media and league treats it differently, very differently.

Long story short, what Rice did isn't excusable, but the league's serious reaction to it only when it became a graphic media issue, and not before, shows its true colors clearly. Goodell and the Ravens management are a farce, pure cowards. I give Madden a pass here because he was still on an active roster and they're basically true to whoever is on the roster (though not for its deliberately unrealistic gameplay catered to players who can't read coverages and think it's good to throw posts at cover 3 because it works in Madden), but not Rice's endorsements. They endorsed him knowing he did this all along. They're the same kind of people as Goodell.

-phil

 

[fatness]

-Saints tackle Zach Strief:"I don't know Ray Rice, but I know that video is disturbing. It's tough to see and it's unacceptable. ... It's upsetting."

-Steelers cornerback William Gay:"We're talking about a life, I don't care about a sport when it comes down to domestic violence. This is real. Someone can lose their life to it.

"So I'm not concerned about the sport. I'm concerned about what happens in the world, what happens in real life. "

-Bills coach Doug Marrone, who supports Vera House, which assists victims of domestic violence and sexual abuse:"Am I happy the NFL has taken a harder stance? ... I mean, there is no excuse for abuse. I really believe that."

-Cleveland Browns coach Mike Pettine, who called the video "deeply disturbing, especially as a father that has two daughters":"There's just no place for that behavior in our society."

Adding he wasn't surprised that Rice was cut after Petting saw the video, he was asked if he could coach a player involved in something similar: "You don't want to ever talk in absolutes, but it would be really difficult," he said.

-Titans tackle Michael Oher, former teammate of Rice's in Baltimore whose locker was next to the running back:"If my daughter was to get hit like that from another man, I'd have a serious problem with it. So I wish him the best, but it's no place for that. I don't care if you're a football player, a professional athlete or anything, a regular man or anything, there's no place for that - striking a woman."

http://www.wjla.com/articles/2014/09/nfl-players-strongly-condemn-ray-rice-after-new-wife-hitting-video-surfaces-106910.html

 

[CapnJB]

Ray admitted exactly what he did long ago already, the video showed nothing that the NFL, Ravens, EA, and others didn't know already. He said himself that he struck her and knocked her out. In the video, he strikes her and knocks her out.

Do we have a link to the testimony where that is exactly what he said? Honestly, just curious... the reaction from the Ravens and the NFL makes it seem like maybe he down played it with corroboration from his wife. But that's just speculation on my part as I've seen none of his testimony. Is it available online?

 

[fatness]

Nike says it has severed its endorsement deal with Ray Rice and EA Sports has pulled the suspended running back from its "Madden NFL 15" as fallout grows from his domestic violence incident.

Rice lost another endorsement deal from a jump training program called VertiMax. VertiMax CEO Michael Wehrell initially stood by Rice in February, after the first video of Rice dragging his then-fiancee out of an Atlantic City casino elevator emerged. On Monday, Wehrell said his company decided to cut its association with Rice in June."After internal discussion about the events that transpired, we determined that a future relationship with Ray did not align with our goals as a company," Wehrell said in a statement.

Rice jerseys were pulled off shelves at retailers ****'s Sporting Goods and Modell's on Monday and were no longer available for sale at the NFL Shop, the league's official online store. On Tuesday, the Ravens announced they would allow fans to exchange Rice jerseys at some point, though the details of the program have not yet been specified.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/11494351/nike-madden-end-relationship-ray-rice

Even a used car dealer dropped him: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/09/09/the-used-car-company-that-s-sticking-with-ray-rice.html

 

[fatness]

Ray admitted exactly what he did long ago already, the video showed nothing that the NFL, Ravens, EA, and others didn't know already. He said himself that he struck her and knocked her out. In the video, he strikes her and knocks her out.

Do we have a link to the testimony where that is exactly what he said? Honestly, just curious... the reaction from the Ravens and the NFL makes it seem like maybe he down played it with corroboration from his wife. But that's just speculation on my part as I've seen none of his testimony. Is it available online?

He mentioned no specifics in his press conference in May. He had his fiance/wife apologize.

At a press conference Friday filled with self-pity, in which he did not apologize to his wife, Janay Palmer, Rice said he had “failed miserably.”

What he really appeared to fail at was an apology. “I failed miserably, but I wouldn’t call myself a failure because failure is not getting knocked down. It’s not getting up,” he said while addressing media for the first time since video surfaced of him dragging Palmer out of a casino elevator.

Rice even had Palmer speak and apologize, even though she was the victim of the alleged assault. “I do deeply regret the role I played in the incident that night,” she said.

http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/football/ray-rice-apologizes-alleged-assault-then-fiancee-article-1.1803771

 

[SeniorVBDStudent]

Is this Honda? I've searched the web and the site and can find no existing references.

Therefore I claim trademark protection on.....RiceGATE.

 

[GoBirds]

Anyone in redraft not cutting him?

 

[Franknbeans]

Hitting the woman was extremely bad, but what I saw was worse is that he had no remorse or respect. I never had hit my wife, but if I did and knocked her unconscious, I'd be wanted to check for a pulse or call 911 or something. Just dragging her out of the elevator and saying "oh, lets not forget the shoe" is mind blowing. Shows you have no care for her life.

People do strange things when they know they are in massive trouble and the shock of reality sets in. I think that is what happened to Rice, not that it makes it excusable. He went into panic mode because he knew there was no getting out of it.

This is how I took it...for all I know he could have been really upset. We couldnt even see his face.

He was nudging her with his FOOT while she laid their motionless... Man, did u guys watch the same video?

Then he weakly propped her up and let her fall back when it was clear she still wasn't conscious. It's a stretch to think he was in shock. He was either drunk or he just didn't care or both.

 

[Henry Ford]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-newsbreak-source-says-rice-video-sent-nfl

AP reporting that law enforcement officials have a voicemail from April confirming that the NFL received the video in question.

 

[Doug B]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-newsbreak-source-says-rice-video-sent-nfl

AP reporting that law enforcement officials have a voicemail from April confirming that the NFL received the video in question.

Direct AP feed link:

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) -- A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive five months ago, while league executives have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

 

[GoBirds]

WOW

 

[Henry Ford]

http://bigstory.ap.org/article/ap-newsbreak-source-says-rice-video-sent-nfl

AP reporting that law enforcement officials have a voicemail from April confirming that the NFL received the video in question.

Direct AP feed link:

ATLANTIC CITY, N.J. (AP) -- A law enforcement official says he sent a video of Ray Rice punching his then-fiancee to an NFL executive five months ago, while league executives have insisted they didn't see the violent images until this week.The person played The Associated Press a 12-second voicemail from an NFL office number on April 9 confirming the video arrived. A female voice expresses thanks and says: "You're right. It's terrible."

That's the same site, but yes. It's on ap.org.

 

[SCT]

Goodell goes down! Goodell goes down!

 

[TheFanatic]

So who's going to fall on the sword to say he lied to Goodell? Someone has to take the blame and it won't be Roger.

 

[maxwelledison]

This is just ugly.

 

[Doug B]

So who's going to fall on the sword to say he lied to Goodell? Someone has to take the blame and it won't be Roger.

That won't save him -- quoth Goodell to Sean Payton: "If you didn't know, you should have".

Plus there will be Congressional inquiries and such. The NFL can't get its arms back around this ... it's got to run its course.

 

[Henry Ford]

Rice is going to have a monster grievance with the NFL if they had the tape before the first punishment was set.

 

[TheFanatic]

So who's going to fall on the sword to say he lied to Goodell? Someone has to take the blame and it won't be Roger.

That won't save him -- quoth Goodell to Sean Payton: "If you didn't know, you should have".

Plus there will be Congressional inquiries and such. The NFL can't get its arms back around this ... it's got to run its course.

Oh, that's going to come back and bite him in the ###. Nice quote, my friend!

 

[Doug B]

So who's going to fall on the sword to say he lied to Goodell? Someone has to take the blame and it won't be Roger.

That won't save him -- quoth Goodell to Sean Payton: "If you didn't know, you should have".

Plus there will be Congressional inquiries and such. The NFL can't get its arms back around this ... it's got to run its course.

Oh, that's going to come back and bite him in the ###. Nice quote, my friend!

Link to the Congressional inquiry stuff, BTW ... USA Today just broke this about 20 minnutes ago.

 

[Omniscient Deity]

Rice is going to have a monster grievance with the NFL if they had the tape before the first punishment was set.

Yup. Especially with the wife firmly on his side.