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RB Ahmad Bradshaw looking Good at NYG rookie camp (1 Viewer)

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Giants rookie RB Ahmad Bradshaw has turned heads at Giants rookie minicamp.

Tom Coughlin said the seventh-round pick out of Marshall had a "noticeable morning" Monday. The NY Daily News has been impressed throughout. Bradshaw slipped in the draft because of character concerns, but a solid summer would make him the favorite to win the number three running back job in New York.

 
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This is one to watch closely... We talked about this on the NFC East draft review, when Biabreakable was kind enough to call in with a question about Bradshaw.

1) Bradshaw is better than a typical 7th round RB - he's a mid round talent who fell because of character issues.

2) Gilbride has already said he doesn't know if Jacobs will be successful running the stretch play (he's got the speed, but he's not sure if Jacobs has the crisp cuts). He has also said the stretch play would stay in the offense. If Jacobs has trouble with the stretch play, Droughns won't be much better. Who on the roster is most like Tiki in his cuts and explosion? Bradshaw.

3) Bradshaw compliments Jacobs as a change of pace and truly different look for the defense much better than Droughns does.

4) Gilbride already seems concerned about whether Jacobs can hold up for a whole season of increased touches with bruising style.

:rolleyes: as this develops in July and August.

 
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I drafted all 3 :rolleyes:

This was also mentioned in the article

-- Seventh-rounder Ahmad Bradshaw, who is battling to be the Giants’ third running back, has terrific cut-back ability. He was also taking turns returning punts with Ross and didn’t drop one.

I think this will be his main duty for the yr, maybe he could have an Reggie Bush type role. I am not comparing him to Reggie though, just have a similar pass catchin out the backfield / change of pace type.

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/giants/

 
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Yeah.. some of those looked good, can't wait till pre-season and see some NFL action.

I took a reach for him in the 24th this yr.

Who says that this yrs Colston has to be a WR :confused:

And like Bloom said, is Droughns really a change of Pace from BJ, lets take out the 265 pd guy and put in the 230+ pd guy now. The Giants should tell him straight up; as long as hes a good boy, he'll get a couple of touchs. Start your #### and your be returning your whole career.

 
I really like this guy which is why I asked Cecil, Bloom et all what they might think of his prospects moving forward. He may not have that extra gear he needs.. that could be his downfall. But as a player I like everything else I have seen when I watch him run the ball. He plays bigger than he is and has those massive legs in a compact frame that really does seem to be the ideal for a RB to me. His stutter steps and juke moves are very good also.

The thing that really stood out to me when reading scouting reports on him besides how productive he has been at the college level.. somthing the Giants place a lot of emphasis on in thier evaluation of players.. is that nearly every scout would praise his vision, saying things like he may have the best field vision of any of the RB prospects this year.

Vision is somthing you cannot teach.. it is instinctual. And I think it is a ability in RBs that seperates great athletes from great players at the RB position.

So yeah I took a lot of notice of that. And Bradshaw has been pretty high on my rookie board and one of the RBs that I felt people calling this a poor draft class for RBs were not recognizing along with Brandon Jackson.

Him falling to round 7 is a cause for concern. I thought he would be drafted much higher. But the charecter issues must be a bigger deal than I thought. I honestly don't pay much attention to that kind of stuff. I am not looking for good semaritans when evaluating players talent. I'm looking for players that have the talent to make it at the next level. I think Bradshaw possibly can. I made sure to secure him in rookie drafts even though he may be a longshot.

This looks to have the makings of another Tiki and Dayne situation over the next few years. Kind of funny how the more things change the more they stay the same.

Or not. :D

 
I dont see very good open field moves from Bradshaw, he seems to pretty much just run in a straight line, reminds be of Terry Battle, RB, ASU

 
Biabreakable said:
So yeah I took a lot of notice of that. And Bradshaw has been pretty high on my rookie board and one of the RBs that I felt people calling this a poor draft class for RBs were not recognizing along with Brandon Jackson.Him falling to round 7 is a cause for concern.
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A few reasons he fell: - Despite Moss and Pennington, Marshall just doesn't get much attention. - He's "small" (and my reply is "so were plenty of other good/great backs") - He stole an x-box. I got him in three drafts. Even spent the 15th overall rookie pick on him in one (got him at 30 in another.) Seems he was on nobody's radar. Good - they can draft the Kenny Irons of the world instead. I think Bradshaw becomes a pretty big deal in a year or two. He's in the perfect place to shine. In fact, he could possibly be the Giant's Leon Washington this season. Which would be a fine start.
 
I'd guess the Giants roll with Jacobs, Droughns, Ward, and Bradshaw this season.

Jacobs, Droughns, and Ward are all very very good blockers(for the run). If they roll with some 2 RB sets, that could keep a D "off guard" as to who will get the ball.

The more I hear about Bradshaw the less I think Droughns will get the rock. I just don't think many Ds can handle Jacobs in the 4th Q and I get the impression that's Coughlin's thinking too. To get him there, according to many, he's going to have to give him some rest/subs as he doesn't have the stamina to be an everydown RB right now. Sprinkle in some runs by the other 3 and then maybe he's got a fresh Jacobs to pound at a tired D in the 4th.

 
I think a lot of rookie hype is happening right now. I like Bradshaw, but let's not get too carried away by the minicamp hype. After all, he was only a 7thy round pick.

 
jwb said:
Biabreakable said:
So yeah I took a lot of notice of that. And Bradshaw has been pretty high on my rookie board and one of the RBs that I felt people calling this a poor draft class for RBs were not recognizing along with Brandon Jackson.Him falling to round 7 is a cause for concern.
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A few reasons he fell: - Despite Moss and Pennington, Marshall just doesn't get much attention. - He's "small" (and my reply is "so were plenty of other good/great backs") - He stole an x-box. I got him in three drafts. Even spent the 15th overall rookie pick on him in one (got him at 30 in another.) Seems he was on nobody's radar. Good - they can draft the Kenny Irons of the world instead. I think Bradshaw becomes a pretty big deal in a year or two. He's in the perfect place to shine. In fact, he could possibly be the Giant's Leon Washington this season. Which would be a fine start.
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Marshall gets a good amount IMO. It's a bit of a ...what's the word...People keep saying they like soandso but Marshall never gets enough attention year in year out. After enough years, they've got the attention of scouts.I think Marshall and Hofstra are probably halfway similar to NFL scouts as far as "small" school that they've got their eye on.Why didn't ya trade down? Why pick him at 15th? No one would trade?Didn't he do something worse than steal an xbox? I don't recall what it was
 
lions327 said:
I think a lot of rookie hype is happening right now. I like Bradshaw, but let's not get too carried away by the minicamp hype. After all, he was only a 7thy round pick.
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I don't disagree with ya for most players but there's not much competition here to make the roster as it's just for a backup RB spot
 
Not sure I believe the hype. We heard the exact same BS about Ron Dayne when he was a rookie.

And unbelievable hype about Joe Montgomery, aka Mr. When.."When he's healthy, he's going to be a star.When he's on the field, he'll make people miss..When he can play, he'll prove to everyone that the he was a STEAL!"

:thumbup:

 
nygiants56 said:
Not sure I believe the hype. We heard the exact same BS about Ron Dayne when he was a rookie.And unbelievable hype about Joe Montgomery, aka Mr. When.."When he's healthy, he's going to be a star.When he's on the field, he'll make people miss..When he can play, he'll prove to everyone that the he was a STEAL!" :towelwave:
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Keith Elias :lmao:
 
abrecher said:
Could someone elaborate on the character issues with this guy?
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He was originally going to UVA, but didnt make it as he got popped for underage drinking and obstruction of justice before he was on the team.Before this season, he was arrested for petty larceny and burglary after walking into another kids room and taking his playstation 2.

link

 
bicycle_seat_sniffer said:
In before HK says he leapfrogged Jacobs on the depth chart
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:lmao: How can Bradshaw leap frog a guy he's always been ahead of? Jacobs was never going to be anything other than the SD/GL guy anyway, with Droughns as the between the 20's guy and Bradshaw as a 3rd down/COP RB.Three headed monster and perfect RBBC.
 
(KFFL) Paul Schwartz, of the New York Post, reports New York Giants general manager Jerry Reese said RB Ahmad Bradshaw will be on "a short leash" when talking about Bradshaw's off-the-field actions that might violate the NFL's new personal conduct policy. Bradshaw was arrested twice while in college.

 
Thanks for this post :confused:

I've been hoping to get him at 3.11 in hyper/active and missed him by one spot...

Without this post, I'm convinced I would have nabbed him.

 
NorrisB said:
He's a bad RB, he's slow, undersized, terrible change of direction, nothing to see here.
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He runs strong, has great short area quickness and great vision. Kind of like Tiki... (Who was smaller than Bradshaw coming into the league btw).
 
I'll just add what I know about Bradshaw. A co-worker is a family friend and has been telling me about him since last football season. He talks with him by phone several times a week. He tells me the guy has "football speed". Claims he ran a 4.3 in camp yesterday. He's told me all along about his vision, which the Giants seem to have noticed. Says he of course, is taking this opportunity very seriously. As for the off field problems:

1. At UVA, busted for leaving a club with a styrofoam cup containing alcohol. Don't know about the disorderly charge. I'll ask.

2. Says he asked and was given permission to borrow another student's portable game system. Walked into room, picked up wrong one. Other guy saw it was missing and reported it. It was straightened out and dropped.

He says leaving UVA turned out to work in his favor. He was playing corner there. FWIW, 3.0 student.

Just a bunch of random thoughts, but it's what I know of him.

 
When I evaluate prospects I consider four main factors:

College Production - Did he produce on the field?

Combine/Pro Day Workout Numbers - Does he have physical abilities on par with the best players from his position?

Eyeball Test - Does he look like a player in games and highlights? Does he make rare plays?

Draft Position - How high was he taken? Was he at least a first day draft pick?

Very few players meet all of these criteria. But when a guy only meets 1-2 of them, I tend to think he has very little chance of making an impact in the NFL.

Bradshaw was very productive in college and he actually looks decent in his highlights, but he lacks the ideal RB build and his combine numbers were extremely pedestrian. He was only a 7th round pick.

Looks like a classic overachiever. He may become a solid backup in the NFL, but I think the odds of him becoming a long-term starter are extremely slim. If he's going in the top 36 picks of your league, he's a reach (IMO).

 
EBF said:
When I evaluate prospects I consider four main factors:College Production - Did he produce on the field?Combine/Pro Day Workout Numbers - Does he have physical abilities on par with the best players from his position?Eyeball Test - Does he look like a player in games and highlights? Does he make rare plays? Draft Position - How high was he taken? Was he at least a first day draft pick? Very few players meet all of these criteria. But when a guy only meets 1-2 of them, I tend to think he has very little chance of making an impact in the NFL. Bradshaw was very productive in college and he actually looks decent in his highlights, but he lacks the ideal RB build and his combine numbers were extremely pedestrian. He was only a 7th round pick. Looks like a classic overachiever. He may become a solid backup in the NFL, but I think the odds of him becoming a long-term starter are extremely slim. If he's going in the top 36 picks of your league, he's a reach (IMO).
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:lmao: He looks like Wali Lundy
 
Side note:

Reliance on combine numbers can be a little bit dangerous, but when you go back and look at past results, you see that they tend to correlate pretty well with success at the RB position. LaDainian Tomlinson, Reggie Bush, and Edgerrin James were all absolute workout warriors. Most of the other relevant FF RBs put up good-to-great workouts. RBs who produce in the NFL despite terrible combine numbers are very rare (Frank Gore is about the only guy who comes to mind).

IMO, success at the RB position is 70-80% physical talent. Instincts are very important as well, but if a back doesn't have a certain level of strength and explosion then he has virtually no chance of ever making it. That's why I think you can pretty much ignore the likes of Ken Darby, Tony Hunt, Dwayne Wright, Ahmad Bradshaw, and DeShawn Wynn. They're dead in the water.

 
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Bradshaw was very productive in college and he actually looks decent in his highlights, but he lacks the ideal RB build and his combine numbers were extremely pedestrian. He was only a 7th round pick.
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Looks like a pretty good RB build to me...http://i9.tinypic.com/4pozfvd.jpg

http://i4.tinypic.com/4t6w0ty.jpg

5094, 198 pounds is not much different than what Tiki was coming into the league. In fact Tiki was probably smaller.

He ran a 4.55 at the combine which is more than adequate. And his 6.70 3-cone drill was 2nd best among RBs behind only Garrett Wolfe (6.69).

For reference, some recent 3-cone times:

Adrian Peterson - 7.09

Marshawn Lynch - 7.09

Joesph Addai - 7.10

Maurice Jones-Drew - 7.08

Jerious Norwood - 6.81

Ronnie Brown - 7.12

Cadillac Williams - 6.95

 
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Construction Man Jim said:
EBF said:
Bradshaw was very productive in college and he actually looks decent in his highlights, but he lacks the ideal RB build and his combine numbers were extremely pedestrian. He was only a 7th round pick.
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Looks like a pretty good RB build to me...http://i9.tinypic.com/4pozfvd.jpg

http://i4.tinypic.com/4t6w0ty.jpg

5094, 198 pounds is not much different than what Tiki was coming into the league.

He ran a 4.55 at the combine which is more than adequate. And his 6.70 3-cone drill was 2nd best among RBs behind only Garrett Wolfe (6.69).

For reference, some recent 3-cone times:

Adrian Peterson - 7.09

Marshawn Lynch - 7.09

Joesph Addai - 7.10

Maurice Jones-Drew - 7.08

Jerious Norwood - 6.81

Ronnie Brown - 7.12

Cadillac Williams - 6.95
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That's only one drill. Here are some other numbers:

10 yard dash - 1.66s (Peterson 1.57s, Lynch 1.60s, Irons 1.56s)

40 yard dash - 4.66s (Peterson 4.41s, Lynch 4.52s, Irons 4.54s)

Broad jump - 9'4" (Peterson 10'7", Lynch 10'5", Irons 10'2")

Vertical leap - 34" (Peterson 38.5", Lynch 35.5", Irons 38")

20 yard shuttle - 4.09s (Peterson 4.40s, Lynch 4.55s, Irons 4.17s)

The shuttle time is good. The vertical leap is well below average for a starting NFL RB. The broad jump is awful. The 40 time and 10 yard split are very poor.

Overall, he looks pretty mediocre from a physical skills standpoint. There's hardly anything here that screams NFL starter.

 
From a poster at FFToday:

NYG may have a new Lightning in their running game. Is Ahmad Bradshaw the next Tiki Barber?

Well I think in a Rookie draft that RB Ahmad Bradshaw NYG is a great sleeper pick. Plus he

kind of reminds me of someone else. Let's compare.

Tiki Barber, Ht 5-10, wt 195

Career: 1997-2004 New York Giants

Strengths: Tiki Barber has proven that he can be a durable back in the NFL

and last the season. He is a good pass catching and strong running back he

is very versatile. Tiki Barber is a solid NFL running back.

Weaknesses: Tiki barber doesn't really have any weaknesses that glare out.

He isn't the fastest or quickest but he is a very crafty runner

The Stingers view:

RB Ahmad Bradshaw, New York Giants

HT: 5-10, WT: 195, Born: 3-19-1986, College: Marshall

Strengths: Ahmad Bradshaw has proven that he can be a durable back in

college

and in the last 3 seasons has 31 touchdowns. He is a good pass catching and

strong running back he

is very versatile. Ahmad Bradshaw could be a solid NFL running back.

Weaknesses: Like Tiki Barber, Bradshaw doesn't really have any weaknesses

that glare out.

He isn't the fastest or quickest (4.55) but he is a very crafty runner. He

had a few off the field issues.

Overview: If Brandon Jacobs or Ruben Droughns is the Thunder, then Ahmad

Bradshaw could just be the Lightning the Giants are looking for. Is he the

next Tiki Barber? Well we may find out soon enough as the regular season

kicks off in less than 4 months.

From Fanball:

Giants: Bradshaw impresses

The News [NL] Giants rookie running back Ahmad Bradshaw needed to have a

good

rookie minicamp, and he delivered. "I think you would have to say Bradshaw

had a noticeable morning this morning," head coach Tom Coughlin told the

team's official web site. "You saw a couple of runs where he was able to

turn the ball north and south. So any time that you have those things taking

place, it catches your eye for sure." [NL]

From Tony Nowak, FFToday:

Ahmad Bradshaw (Marshall) 5094 198 4.55

While he didn't show breakaway track speed at the Combine, his quickness and

agility were highlighted with among the top times by a RB in the short

shuttle (4.09) and cone drill (6.70).

Bradshaw is raw, but his natural running skills and vision offer a lot of

promise. Despite lacking elite timed speed, he is a big play threat. He adds

value as a receiver...

 
drunk said:
From a poster at FFToday:NYG may have a new Lightning in their running game. Is Ahmad Bradshaw the next Tiki Barber?Well I think in a Rookie draft that RB Ahmad Bradshaw NYG is a great sleeper pick. Plus hekind of reminds me of someone else. Let's compare.Tiki Barber, Ht 5-10, wt 195Career: 1997-2004 New York GiantsStrengths: Tiki Barber has proven that he can be a durable back in the NFLand last the season. He is a good pass catching and strong running back heis very versatile. Tiki Barber is a solid NFL running back.Weaknesses: Tiki barber doesn't really have any weaknesses that glare out.He isn't the fastest or quickest but he is a very crafty runnerThe Stingers view:RB Ahmad Bradshaw, New York GiantsHT: 5-10, WT: 195, Born: 3-19-1986, College: MarshallStrengths: Ahmad Bradshaw has proven that he can be a durable back incollegeand in the last 3 seasons has 31 touchdowns. He is a good pass catching andstrong running back heis very versatile. Ahmad Bradshaw could be a solid NFL running back.Weaknesses: Like Tiki Barber, Bradshaw doesn't really have any weaknessesthat glare out.He isn't the fastest or quickest (4.55) but he is a very crafty runner. Hehad a few off the field issues.Overview: If Brandon Jacobs or Ruben Droughns is the Thunder, then AhmadBradshaw could just be the Lightning the Giants are looking for. Is he thenext Tiki Barber? Well we may find out soon enough as the regular seasonkicks off in less than 4 months.From Fanball:Giants: Bradshaw impressesThe News [NL] Giants rookie running back Ahmad Bradshaw needed to have agoodrookie minicamp, and he delivered. "I think you would have to say Bradshawhad a noticeable morning this morning," head coach Tom Coughlin told theteam's official web site. "You saw a couple of runs where he was able toturn the ball north and south. So any time that you have those things takingplace, it catches your eye for sure." [NL]From Tony Nowak, FFToday:Ahmad Bradshaw (Marshall) 5094 198 4.55While he didn't show breakaway track speed at the Combine, his quickness andagility were highlighted with among the top times by a RB in the shortshuttle (4.09) and cone drill (6.70).Bradshaw is raw, but his natural running skills and vision offer a lot ofpromise. Despite lacking elite timed speed, he is a big play threat. He addsvalue as a receiver...
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FWIW, Tiki was drafted 214 spots higher. He was pick 2.06 in the 1997 draft.
 
EBF said:
Construction Man Jim said:
EBF said:
Bradshaw was very productive in college and he actually looks decent in his highlights, but he lacks the ideal RB build and his combine numbers were extremely pedestrian. He was only a 7th round pick.
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Looks like a pretty good RB build to me...http://i9.tinypic.com/4pozfvd.jpg

http://i4.tinypic.com/4t6w0ty.jpg

5094, 198 pounds is not much different than what Tiki was coming into the league.

He ran a 4.55 at the combine which is more than adequate. And his 6.70 3-cone drill was 2nd best among RBs behind only Garrett Wolfe (6.69).

For reference, some recent 3-cone times:

Adrian Peterson - 7.09

Marshawn Lynch - 7.09

Joesph Addai - 7.10

Maurice Jones-Drew - 7.08

Jerious Norwood - 6.81

Ronnie Brown - 7.12

Cadillac Williams - 6.95
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That's only one drill. Here are some other numbers:

10 yard dash - 1.66s (Peterson 1.57s, Lynch 1.60s, Irons 1.56s)

40 yard dash - 4.66s (Peterson 4.41s, Lynch 4.52s, Irons 4.54s)

Broad jump - 9'4" (Peterson 10'7", Lynch 10'5", Irons 10'2")

Vertical leap - 34" (Peterson 38.5", Lynch 35.5", Irons 38")

20 yard shuttle - 4.09s (Peterson 4.40s, Lynch 4.55s, Irons 4.17s)

The shuttle time is good. The vertical leap is well below average for a starting NFL RB. The broad jump is awful. The 40 time and 10 yard split are very poor.

Overall, he looks pretty mediocre from a physical skills standpoint. There's hardly anything here that screams NFL starter.
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Good stuff :thumbup: where did you get this info from?
 
I agree with Construction Man Jim here on the size issue and 3 cone drill.

Although I do not think size is very important consideration, FWIW as I said in my previous post I see Bradshaw as ideal as far as size goes. Not sure why people would consider this a drawback when he is the same size as the majority of feature RB in the NFL.

For measurables the big one people pay attention to is 40 time. However a measurable that I pay attention to and that I consider to be more important is 3 cone drill. The 3 cone drill measures how quickly the player changes direction. It indicates a players agility. This is important in different ways for different players but I think it is the most significant measurable for RBs especialy who are constantly having to change direction as they pick thier way through traffic. Agility and balance are also important for RBs to be able to make defenders miss tackles and keep thier footing after being hit. A little agility can mean a missed tackle or turning a solid tackle into a arm tackle that with balance and power can be run through.

As the 3 cone number indicates Bradshaw is much better at quickly changing directions than all the other RBs from this draft except for Wolfe.. the same Wolfe who would not be in NFL right now if not for his agility.

You combine agility with good vision and you have a RB who is picking the right hole most of the time and has the ability to make defenders miss once he gets to the 2nd level. Thats a lot of positive yards and that will keep a RB getting the ball over his team mates who do not have the same abilities.

 
:thumbup: I am a huge TIKI fan. This guy does remind me a lot of TIKI. Years back everyone talked about Dayne the same way they are talking about Jacobs. Power runner, goal specialist, etc. Then TIKI just came out and played his heart out and he eventually got the starting job that was Dayne's to loose. Now I am not by any means saying Bradshaw is the Tiki, but I think he has a great opportunity. If you think about it, Jacobs will get the goaline, but Bradshaw only has to beat out Droughns (a guy even Clevland cut) to get some good playing time. The guy really reminds me of Cadillac Williams and in my mind could have that kind of upside with low investment. Jacobs will become an Alstott in my option.PS. If you own Jacobs you better grab Bradshaw just in case I'm right.
drunk said:
From a poster at FFToday:NYG may have a new Lightning in their running game. Is Ahmad Bradshaw the next Tiki Barber?Well I think in a Rookie draft that RB Ahmad Bradshaw NYG is a great sleeper pick. Plus hekind of reminds me of someone else. Let's compare.Tiki Barber, Ht 5-10, wt 195Career: 1997-2004 New York GiantsStrengths: Tiki Barber has proven that he can be a durable back in the NFLand last the season. He is a good pass catching and strong running back heis very versatile. Tiki Barber is a solid NFL running back.Weaknesses: Tiki barber doesn't really have any weaknesses that glare out.He isn't the fastest or quickest but he is a very crafty runnerThe Stingers view:RB Ahmad Bradshaw, New York GiantsHT: 5-10, WT: 195, Born: 3-19-1986, College: MarshallStrengths: Ahmad Bradshaw has proven that he can be a durable back incollegeand in the last 3 seasons has 31 touchdowns. He is a good pass catching andstrong running back heis very versatile. Ahmad Bradshaw could be a solid NFL running back.Weaknesses: Like Tiki Barber, Bradshaw doesn't really have any weaknessesthat glare out.He isn't the fastest or quickest (4.55) but he is a very crafty runner. Hehad a few off the field issues.Overview: If Brandon Jacobs or Ruben Droughns is the Thunder, then AhmadBradshaw could just be the Lightning the Giants are looking for. Is he thenext Tiki Barber? Well we may find out soon enough as the regular seasonkicks off in less than 4 months.From Fanball:Giants: Bradshaw impressesThe News [NL] Giants rookie running back Ahmad Bradshaw needed to have agoodrookie minicamp, and he delivered. "I think you would have to say Bradshawhad a noticeable morning this morning," head coach Tom Coughlin told theteam's official web site. "You saw a couple of runs where he was able toturn the ball north and south. So any time that you have those things takingplace, it catches your eye for sure." [NL]From Tony Nowak, FFToday:Ahmad Bradshaw (Marshall) 5094 198 4.55While he didn't show breakaway track speed at the Combine, his quickness andagility were highlighted with among the top times by a RB in the shortshuttle (4.09) and cone drill (6.70).Bradshaw is raw, but his natural running skills and vision offer a lot ofpromise. Despite lacking elite timed speed, he is a big play threat. He addsvalue as a receiver...
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Construction Man Jim said:
EBF said:
FWIW, Tiki was drafted 214 spots higher. He was pick 2.06 in the 1997 draft.
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I can only assume you don't have Tom Brady or Marques Colston on any of your teams? And that you never owned Priest Holmes?
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Some other guys I never had on my team:Andre KingQuentin McCordRichmond FlowersKen-Yon RamboReggie GermanyChris TaylorJohn Capel Rock CartwrightAaron LockettLeonard Henry Antwoine Womack Daryl JonesDarrell Hill Kendall NewsonMichael ColemanSeth BurfurdLuke Staley Ryan HoagTravis AnglinDeAndrew RubinAhmaad Galloway Talman GardnerWalter YoungTaco WallaceKeenan HowryBradlee Van PeltBJ SymonsBrandon MireeDerek Abney Derrick WardMatt MauckQuincy WilsonCasey BramletCody PickettPatrick CraytonJonathan SmithSloan ThomasAdimchinobe Echemandu Mark JonesJohn NavarreJR RussellRyan FitzpatrickLionel GatesJames KilianLeRon McCoyParis WarrenMarcus Maxwell Nehemiah BroughtonKevin McMahan David AndersonQuinton GantherCedric HumesDevin Aromashadu Bennie BrazellDJ ShockleyTodd WatkinsEthan KilmerAll of these skill position prospects were 7th round picks between 2001-2006. 7th round picks almost never become quality FF starters. Pointing out the 4-5 exceptions over the past decade doesn't change the fact that history is very, very much against Bradshaw ever amounting to anything.
 
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EBF said:
Construction Man Jim said:
EBF said:
FWIW, Tiki was drafted 214 spots higher. He was pick 2.06 in the 1997 draft.
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I can only assume you don't have Tom Brady or Marques Colston on any of your teams? And that you never owned Priest Holmes?
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Some other guys I never had on my team:Andre KingQuentin McCordRichmond FlowersKen-Yon RamboReggie GermanyChris TaylorJohn Capel Rock CartwrightAaron LockettLeonard Henry Antwoine Womack Daryl JonesDarrell Hill Kendall NewsonMichael ColemanSeth BurfurdLuke Staley Ryan HoagTravis AnglinDeAndrew RubinAhmaad Galloway Talman GardnerWalter YoungTaco WallaceKeenan HowryBradlee Van PeltBJ SymonsBrandon MireeDerek Abney Derrick WardMatt MauckQuincy WilsonCasey BramletCody PickettPatrick CraytonJonathan SmithSloan ThomasAdimchinobe Echemandu Mark JonesJohn NavarreJR RussellRyan FitzpatrickLionel GatesJames KilianLeRon McCoyParis WarrenMarcus Maxwell Nehemiah BroughtonKevin McMahan David AndersonQuinton GantherCedric HumesDevin Aromashadu Bennie BrazellDJ ShockleyTodd WatkinsEthan KilmerAll of these skill position prospects were 7th round picks between 2001-2006. 7th round picks almost never become quality FF starters. Pointing out the 4-5 exceptions over the past decade doesn't change the fact that history is very, very much against Bradshaw ever amounting to anything.
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:lmao:
 
The Barber said:
:lmao: I am a huge TIKI fan. This guy does remind me a lot of TIKI. Years back everyone talked about Dayne the same way they are talking about Jacobs. Power runner, goal specialist, etc. Then TIKI just came out and played his heart out and he eventually got the starting job that was Dayne's to loose. Now I am not by any means saying Bradshaw is the Tiki, but I think he has a great opportunity. If you think about it, Jacobs will get the goaline, but Bradshaw only has to beat out Droughns (a guy even Clevland cut) to get some good playing time. The guy really reminds me of Cadillac Williams and in my mind could have that kind of upside with low investment. Jacobs will become an Alstott in my option.PS. If you own Jacobs you better grab Bradshaw just in case I'm right.

drunk said:
From a poster at FFToday:NYG may have a new Lightning in their running game. Is Ahmad Bradshaw the next Tiki Barber?Well I think in a Rookie draft that RB Ahmad Bradshaw NYG is a great sleeper pick. Plus hekind of reminds me of someone else. Let's compare.Tiki Barber, Ht 5-10, wt 195Career: 1997-2004 New York GiantsStrengths: Tiki Barber has proven that he can be a durable back in the NFLand last the season. He is a good pass catching and strong running back heis very versatile. Tiki Barber is a solid NFL running back.Weaknesses: Tiki barber doesn't really have any weaknesses that glare out.He isn't the fastest or quickest but he is a very crafty runnerThe Stingers view:RB Ahmad Bradshaw, New York GiantsHT: 5-10, WT: 195, Born: 3-19-1986, College: MarshallStrengths: Ahmad Bradshaw has proven that he can be a durable back incollegeand in the last 3 seasons has 31 touchdowns. He is a good pass catching andstrong running back heis very versatile. Ahmad Bradshaw could be a solid NFL running back.Weaknesses: Like Tiki Barber, Bradshaw doesn't really have any weaknessesthat glare out.He isn't the fastest or quickest (4.55) but he is a very crafty runner. Hehad a few off the field issues.Overview: If Brandon Jacobs or Ruben Droughns is the Thunder, then AhmadBradshaw could just be the Lightning the Giants are looking for. Is he thenext Tiki Barber? Well we may find out soon enough as the regular seasonkicks off in less than 4 months.From Fanball:Giants: Bradshaw impressesThe News [NL] Giants rookie running back Ahmad Bradshaw needed to have agoodrookie minicamp, and he delivered. "I think you would have to say Bradshawhad a noticeable morning this morning," head coach Tom Coughlin told theteam's official web site. "You saw a couple of runs where he was able toturn the ball north and south. So any time that you have those things takingplace, it catches your eye for sure." [NL]From Tony Nowak, FFToday:Ahmad Bradshaw (Marshall) 5094 198 4.55While he didn't show breakaway track speed at the Combine, his quickness andagility were highlighted with among the top times by a RB in the shortshuttle (4.09) and cone drill (6.70).Bradshaw is raw, but his natural running skills and vision offer a lot ofpromise. Despite lacking elite timed speed, he is a big play threat. He addsvalue as a receiver...
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This guy seems to know what he's talking about. It's not like Bradshaw is behind LT and Turner or Behind Bush and McAllister. This guy only has to beat out Droughns and share carries with Jacobs to have Fantasy Football value. Guys like Priest, Rudi, Willie Parker, Terrell Davis, Stephen Davis, Mike Anderson and westbrook all were expected not to play big roles, but given the chance they stepped up. In this draft Bradshaw has about the 5th best chance at becoming a starter in this year draft. I would say Peterson, Lynch, Brandon Jackson, and Chris Henry have the best chance. After that I'd take a shot on a guy like Bradshaw before the rest of the class. :lmao:
 
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