RB Bucky Irving, TB (7 Viewers)

[Insein]

That sounds a little worse than day to day.

 

[Footballdaz]

Anyone else got that sinking feeling that all the secrecy, second opinions, etc. are leading to something like a decision to "play through it" or get surgery (IR situation)?

Possibly career ending

What we know is... ankle/foot + MRI + second opinions... I don't think all the secrecy is about whether he practices today or if they should hold him out until Thursday.

Don't think a guy goes from walking boot and crutches to playing this week.
Sounds like wishful thinking.

 

[jobarules]

Foot sprain is the official diagnosis

 

[Terpman22]

Rachaad White time

 

[kyoun1e]

Sean Tucker time!

 

[Faust]

Foot sprain is the official diagnosis

Adam Schefter
Bucs RB Bucky Irving is dealing with a foot sprain, per source. He was spotted today at practice on crutches and in a walking boot.

https://x.com/adamschefter/status/1973402053419368453?s=61

 

[Grahamburn]

Pick up Tucker in all formats of course.

Josh Williams also likely now elevated to the active roster on gamedays. He’s someone to keep an eye on.

I think they’ll give Tucker a shot, BUT he has exclusively been returning kicks so far.

 

[Boston]

Foot sprain is the official diagnosis

I think Bucky Owners will take that!

 

[Dizzy]

Anyone else got that sinking feeling that all the secrecy, second opinions, etc. are leading to something like a decision to "play through it" or get surgery (IR situation)?

Possibly career ending

What we know is... ankle/foot + MRI + second opinions... I don't think all the secrecy is about whether he practices today or if they should hold him out until Thursday.

Don't think a guy goes from walking boot and crutches to playing this week.
Sounds like wishful thinking.

Wishful thinking... me? I thought I was being pretty clear that ALL indications are that this is probably somewhere between serious (couple weeks) and very serious (IR - weeks to season).

 

[Grahamburn]

Could be short term IR. The Bucs have 4 more weeks until their bye.

 

[jm192]

Pick up Tucker in all formats of course.

Josh Williams also likely now elevated to the active roster on gamedays. He’s someone to keep an eye on.

I think they’ll give Tucker a shot, BUT he has exclusively been returning kicks so far.

Yeah, I got the Fantasy Life notificatiion and grabbed him in 3-4.

In my deepest leagues, I waivered him. Spent 12$ in FBG002. Worked out since I got outbide on Davis who--12 hours ago--seemed like a more surefire bet to get touches.

 

[Gally]

Foot sprain is the official diagnosis

I think Bucky Owners will take that!

I'm gucci with it, much better than I thought

It could still be season ending if it's the dreaded Liz Franc situation. Being that they are looking for second opinions and not giving any info this seems like a likely possibility.

 

[karl.Racki]

Every year I say this..... But this year has been the worst for injuries... I have Burrow, Hill, Warren, and Bucky.. I am pretty much done

 

[LawFitz]

Foot sprain is the official diagnosis

I think Bucky Owners will take that!

I'm gucci with it, much better than I thought

It could still be season ending if it's the dreaded Liz Franc situation. Being that they are looking for second opinions and not giving any info this seems like a likely possibility.

Yikes. Thankfully for Bucky, it doesn't seem to be the case.

9:19 AM | Rotowire.com
Day-to-day, chance to play Week 5
Buccaneers head coach Todd Bowles said Wednesday that Irving (foot) is day-to-day and could have a chance to suit up Sunday versus Seattle if he's able to shed his walking boot by Friday, Scott Smith of the team's official site reports.
Advice: Irving suffered a sprained foot during Tampa Bay's 31-25 loss to the Eagles in Week 4, per Adam Schefter of ESPN, and he was spotted on crutches and in a walking boot at Wednesday's walk-through practice. It's a relief that the second-year pro has avoided a long-term injury, but it appears his status for Week 5 may come down to the wire. If Irving ends up missing any time, Rachaad White and Sean Tucker will be slated to lead the Buccaneers' backfield.

 

[Proteus]

Every year I say this..... But this year has been the worst for injuries... I have Burrow, Hill, Warren, and Bucky.. I am pretty much done

This feels like the worst one in a while imo. And right on the heels of a preseason that seemed to have very few.

I wonder if that correlation means anything.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Adam Schefterr says it is NOT being feared as a long term injury or season ending injury
Irving is Week to Week and likely gonna be out this week

https://x.com/AdamSchefter/status/1973415330513924161?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet

Adam has spoken so that's that

 

[JohnnyU]

Every year I say this..... But this year has been the worst for injuries... I have Burrow, Hill, Warren, and Bucky.. I am pretty much done

I don't drink anymore, but that would probably reintroduce me to Blanton's.

 

[efactor]

Every year I say this..... But this year has been the worst for injuries... I have Burrow, Hill, Warren, and Bucky.. I am pretty much done

I don't drink anymore, but that would probably reintroduce me to Blanton's.

You’re retired and you don’t drink? What fun is that?

Just kidding. Sort of

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Wait, I was told this could be "career ending". Is that the new term for "day to day"?

 

[Leroy Hoard]

Wait, I was told this could be "career ending". Is that the new term for "day to day"?

Indeed, also "possibly" is not the same thing as "definitely"

I just hope you never become a doctor.

 

[Lansdowne]

I remember Irving being hurt at points last season but playing through it. In fact he didn't miss a game. It would not shock me if he tried to play through this one too.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

The "doctor" has spoken.

 

[Uncle Leo]

I remember Irving being hurt at points last season but playing through it. In fact he didn't miss a game. It would not shock me if he tried to play through this one too.

I remember as I had R White on my team and was excited and then let down by knowing that Bucky is playing.

 

[Judge Smails]

Foot sprain is the official diagnosis

I think Bucky Owners will take that!

I'm gucci with it, much better than I thought

It could still be season ending if it's the dreaded Liz Franc situation. Being that they are looking for second opinions and not giving any info this seems like a likely possibility.

I’ve heard nobody mention anywhere about anything season ending. And you don’t usually see a guy go down for the season after he caught and ran a 72 yard TD after the injury.

 

[Gally]

Foot sprain is the official diagnosis

I think Bucky Owners will take that!

I'm gucci with it, much better than I thought

It could still be season ending if it's the dreaded Liz Franc situation. Being that they are looking for second opinions and not giving any info this seems like a likely possibility.

I’ve heard nobody mention anywhere about anything season ending. And you don’t usually see a guy go down for the season after he caught and ran a 72 yard TD after the injury.

Agreed. I was just commenting on some people saying a foot sprain isn't a big deal but that if it ends up being Lis Franc it could be. This was before the latest that he "could play this week" comment from the coach at some point today.

 

[Ray_T]

Foot sprain is the official diagnosis

I think Bucky Owners will take that!

I'm gucci with it, much better than I thought

It could still be season ending if it's the dreaded Liz Franc situation. Being that they are looking for second opinions and not giving any info this seems like a likely possibility.

I’ve heard nobody mention anywhere about anything season ending. And you don’t usually see a guy go down for the season after he caught and ran a 72 yard TD after the injury.

Agreed. I was just commenting on some people saying a foot sprain isn't a big deal but that if it ends up being Lis Franc it could be. This was before the latest that he "could play this week" comment from the coach at some point today.

based on what I've seen, I'd say he likely misses this week.

possibly next week too, but this week almost for sure. I've been wrong on this before but I feel reasonably confident on this prediction.

 

[bolzano]

Foot sprain is the official diagnosis

I think Bucky Owners will take that!

I'm gucci with it, much better than I thought

It could still be season ending if it's the dreaded Liz Franc situation. Being that they are looking for second opinions and not giving any info this seems like a likely possibility.

I’ve heard nobody mention anywhere about anything season ending. And you don’t usually see a guy go down for the season after he caught and ran a 72 yard TD after the injury.

Agreed. I was just commenting on some people saying a foot sprain isn't a big deal but that if it ends up being Lis Franc it could be. This was before the latest that he "could play this week" comment from the coach at some point today.

based on what I've seen, I'd say he likely misses this week.

possibly next week too, but this week almost for sure. I've been wrong on this before but I feel reasonably confident on this prediction.

Walking boot, crutches, and seeking additional opinions. Moreover, when someone gets labeled week-to-week he’s usually dealing with a multiple week injury. So I’d be shocked if he plays this Sunday.

 

[Runkle]

From what I've heard the foot sprain is less serious than the dreaded high ankle sprain

 

[Uncle Leo]

All the speculation is now turning into unintentional comedy.

 

[NajehHejan]

Send in the chaplin to administer last rites

It’s Rachaad White szn

 

[rockaction]

Lot of teams all hush-hush with the injuries. Fellas, it all comes out eventually. Your opponents will figure it out. I get why they're not saying so; I mean, I think I do. I think it is due to opposing coaches dialing up blitzes to confuse the replacement RBs and they lose a day or two to design them.

This guy is in a boot with a foot problem?

Ouch. Week-to-week sounds like a lousy prognosis for fantasy football season.

 

[rockaction]

Lot of teams all hush-hush with the injuries. Fellas, it all comes out eventually. Your opponents will figure it out. I get why they're not saying so; I mean, I think I do. I think it is due to opposing coaches dialing up blitzes to confuse the replacement RBs and they lose a day or two to design them.

This guy is in a boot with a foot problem?

Ouch. Week-to-week sounds like a lousy prognosis for fantasy football season.

Fellas, this guy is a pessimist

Yep. I might still be wrong, but I didn't think either Bucky or Benson were getting out of this without at least two games missed. And we know it's worse for Benson. I'm also not liking Bucky's chances so much.

 

[Insein]

Expected to be out for week 5. Possibly week 6 too.

https://x.com/JFowlerESPN/status/1974108999189737668?t=I-wKRu4D_sB5z6GZEShdsQ&s=19

 

[Barksdale]

If Bucky is out, does Sean Tucker assume his role and White remains a COP back? Or does White step in to Bucky's role?

 

[JoeJoe88]

If Bucky is out, does Sean Tucker assume his role and White remains a COP back? Or does White step in to Bucky's role?

My guess is White gets the majority of the opportunities, at least out of the gate.

 

[BladeRunner]

If Bucky is out, does Sean Tucker assume his role and White remains a COP back? Or does White step in to Bucky's role?

bucky officially out per Rotoworld. Also in danger of missing week 6 as well.

 

[Gally]

If Bucky is out, does Sean Tucker assume his role and White remains a COP back? Or does White step in to Bucky's role?

Based on the last couple pages in here it's close to 50-50 on what will happen. Essentially if you have White you think White will be the guy and if you have Tucker you think Tucker will take the Bucky role. So......nobody knows.

For me, if I am desperate I would throw Tucker in the lineup but if I have any other decent option I probably wait to see how they are deployed.

 

[jobarules]

If Bucky is out, does Sean Tucker assume his role and White remains a COP back? Or does White step in to Bucky's role?

It'll be 80/20 white imo

 

[jurrassic]

I'm struggling a little with the evidence that Tucker will be the guy. In going back to last year, into this season (22 games), he has exactly 1 game with double digit fantasy points. That was in a 51-27 blowout win in week 6 of last year. That was a game in which White sat out, but Bucky rushed for 81 yards and then sat down with the win comfortably in hand. In week 14 last year, when Bucky played extremely limited minutes (5 total touches), Tucker touched the ball 3 times, while White saw 19 touches and scored twice. Tucker also has 9 total catches over that time. How does Tucker take the Bucky role when he has shown no ability to catch the ball or have the trust of the staff in passing situations? Bucky is not just a hammer. He already has 19 recs, through 4 games. The data suggests it will likely be a 65/35 split with White getting the majority of the work. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but I don't see any data that suggests Tucker will get an even split.

 

[JohnnyU]

I'm struggling a little with the evidence that Tucker will be the guy. In going back to last year, into this season (22 games), he has exactly 1 game with double digit fantasy points. That was in a 51-27 blowout win in week 6 of last year. That was a game in which White sat out, but Bucky rushed for 81 yards and then sat down with the win comfortably in hand. In week 14 last year, when Bucky played extremely limited minutes (5 total touches), Tucker touched the ball 3 times, while White saw 19 touches and scored twice. Tucker also has 9 total catches over that time. How does Tucker take the Bucky role when he has shown no ability to catch the ball or have the trust of the staff in passing situations? Bucky is not just a hammer. He already has 19 recs, through 4 games. The data suggests it will likely be a 65/25 split with White getting the majority of the work. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but I don't see any data that suggests Tucker will get an even split.

It is my understanding Tucker isn't the guy, White is.

 

[rockaction]

I'm struggling a little with the evidence that Tucker will be the guy. In going back to last year, into this season (22 games), he has exactly 1 game with double digit fantasy points. That was in a 51-27 blowout win in week 6 of last year. That was a game in which White sat out, but Bucky rushed for 81 yards and then sat down with the win comfortably in hand. In week 14 last year, when Bucky played extremely limited minutes (5 total touches), Tucker touched the ball 3 times, while White saw 19 touches and scored twice. Tucker also has 9 total catches over that time. How does Tucker take the Bucky role when he has shown no ability to catch the ball or have the trust of the staff in passing situations? Bucky is not just a hammer. He already has 19 recs, through 4 games. The data suggests it will likely be a 65/25 split with White getting the majority of the work. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but I don't see any data that suggests Tucker will get an even split.

I don't think anybody but the fantasy analytics guys on Twitter were saying that, and then they backed off within two hours because it's pretty obvious that White is who Bowles likes in pass pro and Bowles is very conservative and Baker is their bread and butter. They are not getting him killed so that they can try and make the Super Bowl with a backup.

Tucker might take the job eventually depending on how he and the coaches shake out, but it is most likely White for now.

 

[LawFitz]

I'm struggling a little with the evidence that Tucker will be the guy. In going back to last year, into this season (22 games), he has exactly 1 game with double digit fantasy points. That was in a 51-27 blowout win in week 6 of last year. That was a game in which White sat out, but Bucky rushed for 81 yards and then sat down with the win comfortably in hand. In week 14 last year, when Bucky played extremely limited minutes (5 total touches), Tucker touched the ball 3 times, while White saw 19 touches and scored twice. Tucker also has 9 total catches over that time. How does Tucker take the Bucky role when he has shown no ability to catch the ball or have the trust of the staff in passing situations? Bucky is not just a hammer. He already has 19 recs, through 4 games. The data suggests it will likely be a 65/25 split with White getting the majority of the work. I'm not saying that's what's going to happen, but I don't see any data that suggests Tucker will get an even split.

This is fair. Lots of projection of Tucker's talent, but really only glimpses of it have actually been seen, and are being extrapolated. White should be the more steady and trusted pick, with upside of his own if he receives a lion's share of the touches.

FYI - this is coming from a guy who renamed his team Muddertuckers earlier today in honor of Tre and Sean. I am clearly high on the latter, but jurrassic's take is valid and sobering.

 

[FGITLOTR]

If Bucky is out, does Sean Tucker assume his role and White remains a COP back? Or does White step in to Bucky's role?

bucky officially out per Rotoworld. Also in danger of missing week 6 as well.sounds like

Def sounds a possible dreaded lis franc injury. Hope not, but that’s what I’m thinking right now. It would gathering different opinions.

 

[travdogg]

Just wanted to add that this injury has ABSOLULTELY ZERO to do with his workload. Fully expecting Bucky to have a top-5 workload when he returns.

My guess is, like Evans, they'll probably be a little patient give their record, and the division being theirs. Though, unlike Evans, Irving doesn't have a lengthy history of these kind of injuries. Based on the reports I've been hearing, I'd be expecting both back in week 7, with an outside chance of week 6 for Irving.

 

[eighsse2]

If Bucky is out, does Sean Tucker assume his role and White remains a COP back? Or does White step in to Bucky's role?

bucky officially out per Rotoworld. Also in danger of missing week 6 as well.sounds like

Def sounds a possible dreaded lis franc injury. Hope not, but that’s what I’m thinking right now. It would gathering different opinions.

What makes you think it sounds that way?

 

[Ray_T]

From what I've heard the foot sprain is less serious than the dreaded high ankle sprain

I had heard the same thing

If Bucky is out, does Sean Tucker assume his role and White remains a COP back? Or does White step in to Bucky's role?

bucky officially out per Rotoworld. Also in danger of missing week 6 as well.sounds like

Def sounds a possible dreaded lis franc injury. Hope not, but that’s what I’m thinking right now. It would gathering different opinions.

ok I hadnt heard this, but if true, thats big trouble for his career. Especially if it requires a surgery.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Send in the chaplin to administer last rites

It’s Rachaad White szn

You’ve misspelled Sean Tucker. Easy mistake.

I’m not starting either of them except in best ball. Go sports and or team!

 

[LawFitz]

From what I've heard the foot sprain is less serious than the dreaded high ankle sprain

I had heard the same thing

If Bucky is out, does Sean Tucker assume his role and White remains a COP back? Or does White step in to Bucky's role?

bucky officially out per Rotoworld. Also in danger of missing week 6 as well.sounds like

Def sounds a possible dreaded lis franc injury. Hope not, but that’s what I’m thinking right now. It would gathering different opinions.

ok I hadnt heard this, but if true, thats big trouble for his career. Especially if it requires a surgery.

"Def sounds a possible"

=/= anything close to true. Yet, at least. Probably not at all. Calm the jets, kids.

 

[rockaction]

Just wanted to add that this injury has ABSOLULTELY ZERO to do with his workload. Fully expecting Bucky to have a top-5 workload when he returns.

My guess is, like Evans, they'll probably be a little patient give their record, and the division being theirs. Though, unlike Evans, Irving doesn't have a lengthy history of these kind of injuries. Based on the reports I've been hearing, I'd be expecting both back in week 7, with an outside chance of week 6 for Irving.

I've been looking at this for over a day and wondering how does travdogg know it didn't have or won't have anything to do with his workload?

 

[Instinctive]

Just wanted to add that this injury has ABSOLULTELY ZERO to do with his workload. Fully expecting Bucky to have a top-5 workload when he returns.

My guess is, like Evans, they'll probably be a little patient give their record, and the division being theirs. Though, unlike Evans, Irving doesn't have a lengthy history of these kind of injuries. Based on the reports I've been hearing, I'd be expecting both back in week 7, with an outside chance of week 6 for Irving.

I've been looking at this for over a day and wondering how does travdogg know it didn't have or won't have anything to do with his workload?

I would think because it's pretty clearly the type of injury that is acute, rather than one from overuse?