RB Carson Steele, KC (1 Viewer)

[cantstop1999]

I think if Pacheco goes down, Steele and perine both play a lot. But I like the upside of Steele, perine is just a guy.

 

[LawFitz]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

 

[Faust]

Analyst Praises Carson Steele but Has Interesting Take About Chiefs Role

 

[ffmail4me]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

I saw enough to already to say he's way more than a JAG. Haven't seen a white boy run with that kind of power and ferociousness since John Riggins. I spent about 85% of my BBID for the year in all my dynasty leagues to roster him. I like Pacheco a ton too, but I don't see how Perine keeps either RB in front of him off the field. Perine really is a JAG. Maybe he got better after his time in Washington, but he was pretty awful there. I think there is plenty of room in today's NFL to have 2 very viable RBs that are start worthy in fantasy. My hope is that's Pacheco and Steele. Sounds like a good cop buddy movie too

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Interested to see how he does. After some of the runs in pre-season, I'm rooting for the guy, I just don't know how he translates to real football on Sundays. His runs were fun to watch, they really were, but I saw a guy with lack of wiggle and ordinary acceleration. Sorry if I'm raining on anyone's parade. I'll be trying to add him in our first FABB cycle as a lottery ticket, but I'm not willing to spend a lot. Perine is still a pretty good RB that fits a role in the KC offense, and Pacheco is the real deal. I think Steele will become a lot more important to his team than he every will be to fantasy squad. I just don't see his game translating to bell cow or 1A or even 1B type role in the NFL.

 

[cantstop1999]

Interested to see how he does. After some of the runs in pre-season, I'm rooting for the guy, I just don't know how he translates to real football on Sundays. His runs were fun to watch, they really were, but I saw a guy with lack of wiggle and ordinary acceleration. Sorry if I'm raining on anyone's parade. I'll be trying to add him in our first FABB cycle as a lottery ticket, but I'm not willing to spend a lot. Perine is still a pretty good RB that fits a role in the KC offense, and Pacheco is the real deal. I think Steele will become a lot more important to his team than he every will be to fantasy squad. I just don't see his game translating to bell cow or 1A or even 1B type role in the NFL.

You may be correct, but if Pacheco ever misses time then this guy becomes very interesting, especially that the coaching staff has praised him. I’ll take that lottery ticket all day.

 

[nittanylion]

Having these two guys available to spell Pacheco, is exactly why the circumstance of Pacheco missing time is greatly reduced.

He's far more dynamic than either of them. No one is going to mistake Perine or Steele for a complete NFL RB.

Both of them can get sporatic snaps here and there, to give Pacheco a breather, and keep him fresh, to do Pacheco things.

Andy has a history of loving on players and feeding the ones he loves. Everybody in that organization who has anything to do with how that offense runs, and any given Players workload, absolutely loves Pacheco, from Andy on down.

Neither, nor both of them, is/are a substantial threat to a significant reduction in Pacheco's statistical output. As a matter of fact, with two such players to give him a breather, his touches might even be more efficient.

At least that's how I'm looking at it.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

Interested to see how he does. After some of the runs in pre-season, I'm rooting for the guy, I just don't know how he translates to real football on Sundays. His runs were fun to watch, they really were, but I saw a guy with lack of wiggle and ordinary acceleration. Sorry if I'm raining on anyone's parade. I'll be trying to add him in our first FABB cycle as a lottery ticket, but I'm not willing to spend a lot. Perine is still a pretty good RB that fits a role in the KC offense, and Pacheco is the real deal. I think Steele will become a lot more important to his team than he every will be to fantasy squad. I just don't see his game translating to bell cow or 1A or even 1B type role in the NFL.

You may be correct, but if Pacheco ever misses time then this guy becomes very interesting, especially that the coaching staff has praised him. I’ll take that lottery ticket all day.

This guy is interesting already simply because of the buzz he generated with some pretty fun runs during the preseason coupled with the team he is a part of. The addition of Perine is kind of a knock on him, but the fact he even made the roster is impressive. I hope I'm wrong and he becomes something similar to Hillis or Alstott who didn't grade particularly well as running backs but kind of took the league by storm as ball carriers. I suppose a similar path is possible here, but I hate that the cat is out of the bag and you have to pay a premium now. I guess I'll bid a few bucks and see what happens.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

 

[BobbyLayne]

We’ve already progressed from Mike Alston to John Riggins? How many days did that take?

WAR HORSE

Prospect Grade 5.66
Draft Projection
Priority free agent

Overview​

Steele is a ball of muscle in human form. He has the contact balance and leg strength to squeeze the most out of a carry. He has decent vision but can be a bit sluggish with short-area cuts, allowing the defense to quickly rally and tackle. Steele’s value will be as a short-yardage specialist who can help wear down defenses in a downhill attack.

Strengths​

• Big and heavily muscled with a weight room master’s degree.
• Runs with squared pads, improving ability to discard angle tacklers.
• Consistently absorbs first contact without stopping the run.
• Maximizes run finishes through force and offers a short-yardage option.
• Patient in allowing blockers to do their jobs.

Weaknesses​

• Needs to keep football tucked tight to avoid fumbles.
• Below-average burst getting through the line of scrimmage.
• Too tight-hipped for lateral cuts when challenged in the hole.
• Missing speed to widen the field and force linebackers to overflow.
• Size and strength to protect quarterback but needs technique work.

Finding bad prospect profiles from NFL.com is easy peasy (Aaron Donald); Lance Zierlein writes hundreds per year for NFL.com, every analyst has misses. Means nothing.

Relevant Group of 5 FF guys isn’t unheard of; just from the MAC, Michael Turner, Greg Jennings, Antonio Gates, Ben Roethlisberger and Randy Moss (+James Harrison, Jason Taylor, Jack Lambert & Sauce Gardner on defense.)

Go ahead and believe, that’s what the preseason is all about. He’s free, no harm taking a flyer.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

 

[Scooby1974]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

Pacheco hasn't had much for competition either.

 

[Ray_T]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

only due to injury. 935 yards in 14 games. if he played 16 games he should have beat that easily.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

only due to injury. 935 yards in 14 games. if he played 16 games he should have beat that easily.

I know but…he still hasn’t had a 1,000 yard season… And… An injury in his second season? Pecheco runs like every run is his last. That’s respectable stuff. He’s fun to watch, but this style doesn’t typically lead to longevity. All the more reason to draft a promising young handcuff.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

only due to injury. 935 yards in 14 games. if he played 16 games he should have beat that easily.

I know but…he still hasn’t had a 1,000 yard season… And… An injury in his second season? Pecheco runs like every run is his last. That’s respectable stuff. He’s fun to watch, but this style doesn’t typically lead to longevity. All the more reason to draft a promising young handcuff.

Breece Hall has not rushed for 1,000 yds
Bijan Robinson didn't hit 1,000 yds last year
You know who else didn't hit 1,000 yards his rookie season?
He went on to be perhaps the most prolific RB in NFL history and if not he sure did accumulate the most - Emmitt Smith 937 yds his rookie season with Dallas
-I like your POV on it, just looking at it another way

 

[Ray_T]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

only due to injury. 935 yards in 14 games. if he played 16 games he should have beat that easily.

I know but…he still hasn’t had a 1,000 yard season… And… An injury in his second season? Pecheco runs like every run is his last. That’s respectable stuff. He’s fun to watch, but this style doesn’t typically lead to longevity. All the more reason to draft a promising young handcuff.

Breece Hall has not rushed for 1,000 yds yet
Bijan Robinson didn't hit 1,000 yds last year
You know how else didn't hit 1,000 yards his rookie season?
He went on to be perhaps the most prolific RB in NFL history and if not he sure did accumulate the most - Emmitt Smith 937 yds his rookie season with Dallas
-I like your POV on it, just looking at it another way

I usually look at the rookie season as a learning year.
in a lot of cases the rookie RB doesnt even have the starting job on day one of his rookie year. so to be fair to the kid you find out what week he started and pro rate from that day forward to give you a reasonable projection for the next year.


so if the kid as a rookie didnt start until week 4, those first 3 weeks likely shouldnt be looked at because that what he does in a backup role. not a starting role.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

only due to injury. 935 yards in 14 games. if he played 16 games he should have beat that easily.

I know but…he still hasn’t had a 1,000 yard season… And… An injury in his second season? Pecheco runs like every run is his last. That’s respectable stuff. He’s fun to watch, but this style doesn’t typically lead to longevity. All the more reason to draft a promising young handcuff.

Breece Hall has not rushed for 1,000 yds yet
Bijan Robinson didn't hit 1,000 yds last year
You know how else didn't hit 1,000 yards his rookie season?
He went on to be perhaps the most prolific RB in NFL history and if not he sure did accumulate the most - Emmitt Smith 937 yds his rookie season with Dallas
-I like your POV on it, just looking at it another way

I usually look at the rookie season as a learning year.
in a lot of cases the rookie RB doesnt even have the starting job on day one of his rookie year. so to be fair to the kid you find out what week he started and pro rate from that day forward to give you a reasonable projection for the next year.


so if the kid as a rookie didnt start until week 4, those first 3 weeks likely shouldnt be looked at because that what he does in a backup role. not a starting role.

I’m not crowning Steele, far from it, the odds are stacked against him. I’m only saying you could do a lot worse at the end of your bench unless you’re in a shallow and/or weak league. Fact of the matter, he will get touches. If he performs well, he will get more touches. He plays in one of the 5 best offenses in the league. To me, it’s worth the risk to hold a few weeks.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

only due to injury. 935 yards in 14 games. if he played 16 games he should have beat that easily.

I know but…he still hasn’t had a 1,000 yard season… And… An injury in his second season? Pecheco runs like every run is his last. That’s respectable stuff. He’s fun to watch, but this style doesn’t typically lead to longevity. All the more reason to draft a promising young handcuff.

Breece Hall has not rushed for 1,000 yds yet
Bijan Robinson didn't hit 1,000 yds last year
You know how else didn't hit 1,000 yards his rookie season?
He went on to be perhaps the most prolific RB in NFL history and if not he sure did accumulate the most - Emmitt Smith 937 yds his rookie season with Dallas
-I like your POV on it, just looking at it another way

I usually look at the rookie season as a learning year.
in a lot of cases the rookie RB doesnt even have the starting job on day one of his rookie year. so to be fair to the kid you find out what week he started and pro rate from that day forward to give you a reasonable projection for the next year.


so if the kid as a rookie didnt start until week 4, those first 3 weeks likely shouldnt be looked at because that what he does in a backup role. not a starting role.

Also, I’m not knocking Pecheco. IMO his early production has been fantastic. I only brought up his early production as a counterpoint to the guy that suggested Steele might simply be stuck behind a veteran like KC treats rookies like a coach like Rivera used to. That’s just not the case here. Pacheco has been extremely valuable to this team and is a big reason they’ve won two in a row, but his running style lends itself to injury. That alone is worth a hedge.

 

[Ray_T]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

only due to injury. 935 yards in 14 games. if he played 16 games he should have beat that easily.

I know but…he still hasn’t had a 1,000 yard season… And… An injury in his second season? Pecheco runs like every run is his last. That’s respectable stuff. He’s fun to watch, but this style doesn’t typically lead to longevity. All the more reason to draft a promising young handcuff.

Breece Hall has not rushed for 1,000 yds yet
Bijan Robinson didn't hit 1,000 yds last year
You know how else didn't hit 1,000 yards his rookie season?
He went on to be perhaps the most prolific RB in NFL history and if not he sure did accumulate the most - Emmitt Smith 937 yds his rookie season with Dallas
-I like your POV on it, just looking at it another way

I usually look at the rookie season as a learning year.
in a lot of cases the rookie RB doesnt even have the starting job on day one of his rookie year. so to be fair to the kid you find out what week he started and pro rate from that day forward to give you a reasonable projection for the next year.


so if the kid as a rookie didnt start until week 4, those first 3 weeks likely shouldnt be looked at because that what he does in a backup role. not a starting role.

Also, I’m not knocking Pecheco. IMO his early production has been fantastic. I only brought up his early production as a counterpoint to the guy that suggested Steele might simply be stuck behind a veteran like KC treats rookies like a coach like Rivera used to. That’s just not the case here. Pacheco has been extremely valuable to this team and is a big reason they’ve won two in a row, but his running style lends itself to injury. That alone is worth a hedge.

if you feel the need.

in general, I have found that if this was going to become a problem for him he would have already missed significant time. Hes still young. I start to worry more about this once the player gets to the point where hes no longer on the rookie deal. prior to that point, I dont sweat it that much unless i have seen something that makes me think its going to be an issue.

but each of us has our own risk tolerances and you need to perform within that for your own piece of mind.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

perine is just a guy

Yes but a JAG on the Chiefs is different than a JAG anywhere else, especially if that JAG somehow falls into a lion's share.

Some might say what about CEH? That dude was/is less than a JAG. Way less.

Thing is though, we don't know what Steele is. What if he's more than a JAG? What if he's way more?

Pacheco was given 93 touches in the Playoffs last year
12 targets, 12 catches

I'm not trying to talk up Pacheco, just being a realist of how the Chiefs view him
They tend to treat the Vets on the team well and that's what Pacheco is with 2 rings around his fingers and the RB1 designation entering his Prime in Year 3

They're also not afraid to throw a rookie into the fire if they believe it will help the team, whatever it takes to win. I wouldn't peg them as any one thing. They adapt from the top down each year. As a rookie Pacheco played a huge part in their 2022 run, just as rookie Rashee Rice did for them in 2023.

FWIW, Pacheco still doesn't have a 1,000 yard season under his belt despite leading the team in rushing quite handedly.

only due to injury. 935 yards in 14 games. if he played 16 games he should have beat that easily.

I know but…he still hasn’t had a 1,000 yard season… And… An injury in his second season? Pecheco runs like every run is his last. That’s respectable stuff. He’s fun to watch, but this style doesn’t typically lead to longevity. All the more reason to draft a promising young handcuff.

Breece Hall has not rushed for 1,000 yds yet
Bijan Robinson didn't hit 1,000 yds last year
You know how else didn't hit 1,000 yards his rookie season?
He went on to be perhaps the most prolific RB in NFL history and if not he sure did accumulate the most - Emmitt Smith 937 yds his rookie season with Dallas
-I like your POV on it, just looking at it another way

I usually look at the rookie season as a learning year.
in a lot of cases the rookie RB doesnt even have the starting job on day one of his rookie year. so to be fair to the kid you find out what week he started and pro rate from that day forward to give you a reasonable projection for the next year.


so if the kid as a rookie didnt start until week 4, those first 3 weeks likely shouldnt be looked at because that what he does in a backup role. not a starting role.

Also, I’m not knocking Pecheco. IMO his early production has been fantastic. I only brought up his early production as a counterpoint to the guy that suggested Steele might simply be stuck behind a veteran like KC treats rookies like a coach like Rivera used to. That’s just not the case here. Pacheco has been extremely valuable to this team and is a big reason they’ve won two in a row, but his running style lends itself to injury. That alone is worth a hedge.

if you feel the need.

in general, I have found that if this was going to become a problem for him he would have already missed significant time. Hes still young. I start to worry more about this once the player gets to the point where hes no longer on the rookie deal. prior to that point, I dont sweat it that much unless i have seen something that makes me think its going to be an issue.

but each of us has our own risk tolerances and you need to perform within that for your own piece of mind.

I feel like we're saying the same things but you just want to turn this into an argument any way possible lol. I like Pacheco. I'm not saying he will get hurt. As with ANY running back, it is a likely occurrence though and Pacheco looks for contact. Anyway, I wouldn't be picking him up if two things weren't true. 1. Carson Steele showed out in preseason. 2. Carson Steele plays for the Kansas City Chiefs. THOSE are the reasons why he's on my team. If he can do it on Sundays, his share will grow. It's as simple as that. If you feel like you can better spend a bench spot on a different lottery ticket. More power to you. That's the beauty of fantasy football, there is more than one way to skin a cat...

 

[ChiefD]

I think Carson Steele is going to get those Anthony Sherman 3rd and 4th and 1 quick handoff plays that Reid likes to run. To me that's his role right out of the gate. So maybe a few touchdowns if they happen to be on the goal line.

As the year goes on maybe they dial up a few plays for him here and there. But at first I wouldn't expect much.

 

[Jacob's Ladder]

I think Carson Steele is going to get those Anthony Sherman 3rd and 4th and 1 quick handoff plays that Reid likes to run. To me that's his role right out of the gate. So maybe a few touchdowns if they happen to be on the goal line.

As the year goes on maybe they dial up a few plays for him here and there. But at first I wouldn't expect much.

Agreed with everything you said. His future usage will depend heavily on what he does with those initial touches and/or what happens with Pacheco ahead of him. It's a long season, I'm sure they'd like to lighten the load for Pacheco and save him for another playoff run, but if that manifests into more touches for Steele, Perine or CEH depends almost solely on how Steele performs early. I would be surprised if he sees more than 2-3 touches tonight. He's an unstartable, end of bench lottery ticket for now, but I do think he's worth holding for 3-4 weeks. If he gets 0 carries, or looks like he's stuck in the mud early, it's highly unlikely he'll catch lighting in a bottle late and he becomes an easy drop. If he starts trucking people like he was in preseason on his 2-3 touches, he's worth holding almost indefinitely. His stiff arm looked Derek Henry-esque.

 

[ffmail4me]

He’s gonna score tonight

 

[JohnnyU]

He’s gonna score tonight

I would bet your life on it.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Kind of feel like I'll be kicking myself for locking this guy into my roster when I still need to add a kicker, but when will a 5.11 rookie pick provide this much added drama to the NFL kickoff?

All on board, at least for this week. I'll lose my mind if he gets loose.

3.5 carries / 9.5 yards O/U ?

 

[ffmail4me]

He’s gonna score tonight

I would bet your life on it.

i got 3 kids man...don't put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!

 

[JohnnyU]

He’s gonna score tonight

I would bet your life on it.

i got 3 kids man...don't put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!

Don’t worry, she will find them another dad.

 

[Cowboysfan8]

He’s gonna score tonight

I would bet your life on it.

i got 3 kids man...don't put that evil on me Ricky Bobby!

Don’t worry, she will find them another dad.

damn

 

[ffmail4me]

 

[Dizzy]

Well... the pet alligator story was interesting.

 

[Runkle]

A carry!

 

[Largent]

Honestly guys, how many seasons have to pass when we overvalue 2nd string RB's in KC one again. Personally over it.

 

[rodalive]

Honestly guys, how many seasons have to pass when we overvalue 2nd string RB's in KC one again. Personally over it.

Form a coherent sentence, it adds context

 

[Ray_T]

Honestly guys, how many seasons have to pass when we overvalue 2nd string RB's in KC one again. Personally over it.

its not often that the backup puts up draftable numbers. The only roster he should be on is the same roster Pacheco is on. a nice late round handcuff.

I have him labelled as a player to watch. I have Pacheco in my big money league and if he gets hurt I may grab him.

 

[sushinsky4tsar]

Just curious, for those with lineup locks, who did you leave off your roster in favor of the Carson Steele experience?

I would have said Tank Bigsby in my dynasty, which is pretty bad considering he's actually the backup. However, my Thursday kickoff OCD already had me dropping him for Jordan Whittington. Now, I'll have to decide between no kicker, Dameon Pierce, or having pointlessly tipped my hand on J-Whitt.

Probably should be Pierce. Will probably be stubborn and hope that no kicker doesn't cost me week 1.