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RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (3 Viewers)
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buck naked
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tombonneau
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Didn't watch that. How did he look?
fruity pebbles
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tombonneau
Footballguy
Sweet. Imagine if he ends up a second half savior.fruity pebbles said:
A kid can dream.
fruity pebbles
Footballguy
Highlights this week. Finally showed some of the moves that made him great in college. Was really part of the offense this week which I think helped him get into a groove.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JziA-GF-Ae4
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JziA-GF-Ae4
Biabreakable
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Watching the clips I do think the TD should have been ruled a forward pass.
Gandalf
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He looked GOOD yesterday! He’s going to be an RB1 when Stewart is de-emphasized. Needs more than 3 carries a game and finally got it! And does he ever drop a pass??? Rhetorical question... No he does not!
flysack
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I've been on the fence since drafting him 1.2 in my rookie draft, but after seeing the highlights of his first game with a major workload, I'm convinced he's going to be a RB1 at some point. He's already a low end RB2 in PPR. The kid can move though. And he has good vision. And he has good hands.
I hated when people said "he's still learning the game!" but you know what? I think that may actually be the case. It looks like he's already adjusting to the speed of the NFL.
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He's actually 12th in my league based on ppg excluding DJ and Cook. Maybe you meant low end RB1 or play in a 6 team league?
Gandalf
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Agreed. Had the same thought when I read that post. The most important thing was that he passed the eye test yesterday. Needs to get 15 carries every game and good things will happen
tombonneau
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Wow. Night and day. Looked great in those highlights. He's looking like a solid mid-tier RB1 in ppr if this type of usage is maintained.
madviking10
Footballguy
I've watched every week as I drafted this dude 1.1 in a rookie draft. All season I've had the feeling that Cam didn't really care for the kid. That all changed yesterday. Cam seemed excited for him on plays and seemed to be going out of his way to get him the ball. On the flip side, McCaffrey seemed to be the first player to congratulate or greet Cam after a run or big play.
I've read multiple reports that Cam was in big favor of them drafting him, even if Fournette was on the board and he went into yesterdays game on pace for about 100 receptions so Cam has been getting him the ball. That passing game volume has been about the only thing saving him till yesterday.
Despite winning yesterday, the trade of Benjamin had to signal that the Panthers don't think they can contend this year. So why not get your top draft pick more involved and see what he can do? I'm hopeful that this usage wasn't purely because Stew fumbled twice but rather the Panthers committing to CMac the second half of the year.
Dr. Octopus
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Dr. Octopus
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That 6-3 teams don't think that they can't contend. They are (virtually) tied for first in the NFC South and are tied for the second most wins in the NFC. I do not think they decided to punt on the season.
I'd argue it's more logical that a front office who thinks they are Super Bowl contenders wouldn't trade their best receiver halfway through the season. Virtually tied for first (with a team that blew them out at their place). I have nothing against the Panthers, they look like a good team to me. But generally trading off one of your better players for future draft picks is a sign that you don't think you can win it all this year.
From this link:https://247sports.com/nfl/carolina-panthers/Bolt/Carolina-Panthers-hope-Kelvin-Benjamin-trade-can-boost-running-game-109821305
In the mind of the Panthers, trading Kelvin Benjamin might be addition by subtraction, especially when it comes to their running game.
Head coach Ron Rivera said running backs Jonathan Stewart and Christian McCaffrey might see a boost with the departure of Benjamin and the insertion of a faster receiver across from Devin Funchess like a Curtis Samuel or Kaelin Clay, since it will back the defensive backs off the line of scrimmage and create more room to run.
Thanks for the link and if that's the case, as a CMac owner I'm cool with that too! But I'd expect just about any coach in that spot to say something along those lines, about the trade making them better regardless of whether they believe it to be true.
Dr. Octopus
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I'm not sure what the Panthers' motivation was, but there's nothing logical at all about your belief. A team that is 6-3 in a Conference where only the Eagles have looked dominant is not looking to pack it in because they have no chance to win. They are arguably the second best team in the NFC right now.
Doubt you can argue that they are better than the Saints who blew them out at their place and have been on a tear. In fact you can argue they are at best a distant 3rd since they lost home games to the 2 top teams in the conference. I'm not saying they're "packing it in" but it certainly possible, based on the Benjamin trade, that their front office doesn't think they are championship contenders. Being 6-3 (5-3 at the time of the trade), doesn't really contradict that. I mean the Dolphins were 4-2 and had the 3rd most regular season wins over the past year according to the broadcast and everyone knew they weren't contenders.
jdoggydogg
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jdoggydogg
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Watching these highlights again, I am still amazed by his quickness and elusiveness. I think he's due for a couple of long TDs, because the guy gets open and he is hard to tackle.
DarkKnightsGuru
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as you see what we all thought would be a bust is now showing those moves .. Amazing what he can do if he has decent blocking and open space
DarkKnightsGuru
Footballguy
Ive seen a lot of CMC this year and I was like ,where is this guys moves!.. Hes stiff and robotic.. but Sunday something happened and boy did his switch flip on..
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Glad to hear all of this. I held in dynasty’s but sold him in redraft in a multi player trade for Engram and Jordan howard 2 weeks ago. I resigned myself to the belief that he may have a bright future but it just was not happening for him this year.
hope he finishes out the year really strong. With kareem hunt cooling off, fournette injured/knuckleheading it up, mixon underwhelming behind that atroctoous o line, and the season ending injury to Cook, mccaffery might just end up being the top or in the top 2 rookie rbs this year when all is said and done.
hope he finishes out the year really strong. With kareem hunt cooling off, fournette injured/knuckleheading it up, mixon underwhelming behind that atroctoous o line, and the season ending injury to Cook, mccaffery might just end up being the top or in the top 2 rookie rbs this year when all is said and done.
Hankmoody
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Run It Up
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Just want to say McCaffrey broke in to the top 10 RBs 3 weeks ago in PPR leagues and doesnt appear to be trending backwards.
He's been playing very well he's just been hamstrung into a one-dimensional role because defenses were allowed to cheat the Box because of Kelvin Benjamin. Barring injury I don't see any way that Christian McCaffrey doesn't finish top 10 in a PPR League.
Before the season I said that his floor is 70 catches and that he could catch as much as 100 as early as this season. People said I was crazy. He's on Pace
He's been playing very well he's just been hamstrung into a one-dimensional role because defenses were allowed to cheat the Box because of Kelvin Benjamin. Barring injury I don't see any way that Christian McCaffrey doesn't finish top 10 in a PPR League.
Before the season I said that his floor is 70 catches and that he could catch as much as 100 as early as this season. People said I was crazy. He's on Pace
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Concept Coop
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He's outside of the top 10 as of today. He's 11th in overall points and 14th in PPG.
Biabreakable
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McCaffrey played on 82% of the offensive snaps yesterday. I believe that is a game high for him. He also had 15 rushing attempts a new high for him and the first game he had more than 10 rushing attempts since week one of the season.
He leads the team in targets with 72. 8 targets per game. He has averaged 6 receptions per game, on pace for 96 receptions if he keeps this up for the rest of the year.
While I think it is possible he could finish in the top 12 PPR he likely needs to have more than the 114 rushing attempts he is on pace for to do that, and maintain his high target rate, which seems unlikely to me that he ends up with 144 targets, but maybe.
He leads the team in targets with 72. 8 targets per game. He has averaged 6 receptions per game, on pace for 96 receptions if he keeps this up for the rest of the year.
While I think it is possible he could finish in the top 12 PPR he likely needs to have more than the 114 rushing attempts he is on pace for to do that, and maintain his high target rate, which seems unlikely to me that he ends up with 144 targets, but maybe.
Run It Up
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Odd, hes RB8 in both my dynasty leagues, the only atypical thing about the scoring is return yardage, which has only given him 9 of his 138 pts on the year.
Ahead of Shady, Chris Thompson and Fournette, just behind Carlos Hyde and Melvin Gordon.
Actually now that i go thru it, those 9 pts actually are the difference in the rb8-11, very close
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Fair. Regardless, I'm hopeful McCaffrey's usage will remain at the level it was last Sunday.
Let's take the Panthers at face value and conclude that they really believe replacing Kelvin with a faster WR and a different style is a good idea.
Why does that turn into "we have to trade him away?" And why wait till he's traded to so it? Coach could have subbed someone in for Kelvin anytime he wanted to. It's not like he's contractually obligated to play Kelvin some percentage. And then if it doesn't work, Finchess is ineffective, or gets hurt, you have Kelvin available to go back in.
The theory being tossed about in this thread that they "needed" to move him to open up the offense would be like fantasy owners "needing" to cut TY Hilton, rather than stashing him on their bench...defies logic.
Why does that turn into "we have to trade him away?" And why wait till he's traded to so it? Coach could have subbed someone in for Kelvin anytime he wanted to. It's not like he's contractually obligated to play Kelvin some percentage. And then if it doesn't work, Finchess is ineffective, or gets hurt, you have Kelvin available to go back in.
The theory being tossed about in this thread that they "needed" to move him to open up the offense would be like fantasy owners "needing" to cut TY Hilton, rather than stashing him on their bench...defies logic.
dipandglide
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Meh. Kelvin and Funchess are the same type of WR. Do they really need two, tall, slow, WR's? No. That's why Kevlin was expendable. The move was almost lateral, imo.
I dunno...the Cowboys seem like they could use another tall slow WR now with Bryant gimpy. When did depth and replacable parts waiting on the sidelines become a bad thing?
Run It Up
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Not sure if Samuel is the answer but they need a burner to pull apart the defense, olsen and funchess can play man to man under the safeties but they need a third guy to pull traffic, they just didnt have it before and defense could plant additional players in the box unpunished which really handicapped CMC ceiling.
Agreed, but trading away Benjamin didn't come with the opportunity to add such a player to their roster. So they are still hoping in-house options like Samuel step up.
