RB Christian McCaffrey, SF (2 Viewers)

[togo]

Any updates??

 

[JohnnyU]

Any updates??

Film at 11

 

[Rubi]

Any updates??

It's The Niners
Good luck

 

[Bad_Mo2]

I think that Guereuennuenuendo guy is a good pick up. Mason won't be able to take the beating and CMC ain't walking through those doors anytime soon.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

 

[Pietaster2]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

Not if you got him for peanuts and he’s your secret weapon late season stash.

 

[Snotbubbles]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

Not if you got him for peanuts and he’s your secret weapon late season stash.

Just curious, what exactly are you expecting from CMC this season? I don't see him having any fantasy relevance this season.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

Not if you got him for peanuts and he’s your secret weapon late season stash.

Just curious, what exactly are you expecting from CMC this season? I don't see him having any fantasy relevance this season.

7 games, he’ll be somewhere between the RB4 and RB11 from weeks 10-17.

But that depends on whether his recovery continues to progress.

 

[Adso]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

Not if you got him for peanuts and he’s your secret weapon late season stash.

Just curious, what exactly are you expecting from CMC this season? I don't see him having any fantasy relevance this season.

Agree with this. If he plays in non-playoff games it will only be because the team's playoff spot is on the line at the end of the season.

 

[Adso]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

Not if you got him for peanuts and he’s your secret weapon late season stash.

Just curious, what exactly are you expecting from CMC this season? I don't see him having any fantasy relevance this season.

7 games, he’ll be somewhere between the RB4 and RB11 from weeks 10-17.

But that depends on whether his recovery continues to progress.

I think the big issue with this injury is that there is no quantitative way to measure progress. If he can feel it at all... it is one misstep away from being fully reactivated and a tear is in play. This injury requires doing almost nothing for 2-3 months until even the shadow of a twinge has disappeared... and then you cross your fingers and slowly ramp it up hoping it has recovered, often not. I don't think we even know when the injury peaked and that recovery clock didn't start ticking until he was completely off it.

49ers have given us every reason to disbelieve any positive piece of news they share.

 

[Ray_T]

49ers have given us every reason to disbelieve any positive piece of news they share.

with the 49ers its almost like the more positive they are, the more likely he does not play. the more negative, the closer he is to playing.

they are Trixie that way.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

Not if you got him for peanuts and he’s your secret weapon late season stash.

Just curious, what exactly are you expecting from CMC this season? I don't see him having any fantasy relevance this season.

7 games, he’ll be somewhere between the RB4 and RB11 from weeks 10-17.

But that depends on whether his recovery continues to progress.

I think the big issue with this injury is that there is no quantitative way to measure progress. If he can feel it at all... it is one misstep away from being fully reactivated and a tear is in play. This injury requires doing almost nothing for 2-3 months until even the shadow of a twinge has disappeared... and then you cross your fingers and slowly ramp it up hoping it has recovered, often not. I don't think we even know when the injury peaked and that recovery clock didn't start ticking until he was completely off it.

49ers have given us every reason to disbelieve any positive piece of news they share.

We’ve crossed the breach into paranoid delusion, I see.

Logic has left the topic, so I probably will as well.

You’re welcome to assume what you like. I’m still going off of the known factors. He practiced without any setbacks. If he keeps doing that, he’s going to be playing soon.

The 49ers are a diminished offense without him. He is their offensive centerpiece. It all functions better with him.

Thus when he can play, he will play.

But we take it a week at a time. The question was what we expect from him. I expect him to come back after the BYE and play meaningful football.

And hopefully contribute to a championship.

 

[leftcoastheel]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

Not if you got him for peanuts and he’s your secret weapon late season stash.

Just curious, what exactly are you expecting from CMC this season? I don't see him having any fantasy relevance this season.

7 games, he’ll be somewhere between the RB4 and RB11 from weeks 10-17.

But that depends on whether his recovery continues to progress.

I think the big issue with this injury is that there is no quantitative way to measure progress. If he can feel it at all... it is one misstep away from being fully reactivated and a tear is in play. This injury requires doing almost nothing for 2-3 months until even the shadow of a twinge has disappeared... and then you cross your fingers and slowly ramp it up hoping it has recovered, often not. I don't think we even know when the injury peaked and that recovery clock didn't start ticking until he was completely off it.

49ers have given us every reason to disbelieve any positive piece of news they share.

We’ve crossed the breach into paranoid delusion, I see.

Logic has left the topic, so I probably will as well.

You’re welcome to assume what you like. I’m still going off of the known factors. He practiced without any setbacks. If he keeps doing that, he’s going to be playing soon.

The 49ers are a diminished offense without him. He is their offensive centerpiece. It all functions better with him.

Thus when he can play, he will play.

But we take it a week at a time. The question was what we expect from him. I expect him to come back after the BYE and play meaningful football.

And hopefully contribute to a championship.

I don't have any shares of him and rather instead have Mason and Guerendo. However, given my position in fantasy, curious where you've seen if he's "practiced without any setbacks"? All the information I see out there is that he's knocked up Olivia Culpo. Good for him... I'd probably quit football too.

Not sure if you've ever had Achilles tendonitis ... I have and it takes months to heal and then PT during/after and the risk of bowing your Achilles, at least according to my podiatrist, is pretty high if you push it before you are fully recuperated. And it usually stems from something chronic (um, all the horrors of getting older...) and can create other conditions like for example but not limited to plantar fasciitis (also had this, in both feet, excruciating) if not handled perfectly for a variety of reasons.

Anyhow, I'd be surprised if he plays any time soon. Curious where he you've seen he's practicing without setbacks.

 

[BassNBrew]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

Not if you got him for peanuts and he’s your secret weapon late season stash.

Just curious, what exactly are you expecting from CMC this season? I don't see him having any fantasy relevance this season.

7 games, he’ll be somewhere between the RB4 and RB11 from weeks 10-17.

But that depends on whether his recovery continues to progress.

I think the big issue with this injury is that there is no quantitative way to measure progress. If he can feel it at all... it is one misstep away from being fully reactivated and a tear is in play. This injury requires doing almost nothing for 2-3 months until even the shadow of a twinge has disappeared... and then you cross your fingers and slowly ramp it up hoping it has recovered, often not. I don't think we even know when the injury peaked and that recovery clock didn't start ticking until he was completely off it.

49ers have given us every reason to disbelieve any positive piece of news they share.

We’ve crossed the breach into paranoid delusion, I see.

Logic has left the topic, so I probably will as well.

You’re welcome to assume what you like. I’m still going off of the known factors. He practiced without any setbacks. If he keeps doing that, he’s going to be playing soon.

The 49ers are a diminished offense without him. He is their offensive centerpiece. It all functions better with him.

Thus when he can play, he will play.

But we take it a week at a time. The question was what we expect from him. I expect him to come back after the BYE and play meaningful football.

And hopefully contribute to a championship.

I don't have any shares of him and rather instead have Mason and Guerendo. However, given my position in fantasy, curious where you've seen if he's "practiced without any setbacks"? All the information I see out there is that he's knocked up Olivia Culpo. Good for him... I'd probably quit football too.

Not sure if you've ever had Achilles tendonitis ... I have and it takes months to heal and then PT during/after and the risk of bowing your Achilles, at least according to my podiatrist, is pretty high if you push it before you are fully recuperated. And it usually stems from something chronic (um, all the horrors of getting older...) and can create other conditions like for example but not limited to plantar fasciitis (also had this, in both feet, excruciating) if not handled perfectly for a variety of reasons.

Anyhow, I'd be surprised if he plays any time soon. Curious where he you've seen he's practicing without setbacks.

Not trying to be rude here, but you're probably not an elite NFL athlete and your Blue Cross plan is probably a notch below the treatment he's been receiving. Not sure what that will yield for CMac, but the range of outcomes is definitely different.

 

[Anarchy99]

Just curious, what exactly are you expecting from CMC this season?

I hope CMC scores more than the following did this week: CMC (0), Pacheco (0), Nabers (0), Harrison (0), and BrRobinson (0). Everything is relative, and each roster is made up differently. At this point, getting RB2 production form CMC would be a godsend. I've been having to surf the wire hoping to land someone that can fill in with RB3 level production. Lots of fantasy teams trying to stay afloat with injuries and byes.

 

[JohnnyU]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

 

[osubuckeyeman]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

 

[JohnnyU]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

 

[osubuckeyeman]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

Redraft? What is this thing you speak of?

 

[JohnnyU]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

Redraft? What is this thing you speak of?

Yeah, I don't play in them either

 

[JoeJoe88]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

I’d still carve out a spot even in redraft. I’d imagine the chance of re-aggravation is going to be decently high whenever he does come back. Mason has looked really good in his absence.

 

[JohnnyU]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

I’d still carve out a spot even in redraft. I’d imagine the chance of re-aggravation is going to be decently high whenever he does come back. Mason has looked really good in his absence.

Yes, that certainly is a possibility. I'm not saying to drop Mason, I'm saying he may become useless once CMC is back.

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

I’d still carve out a spot even in redraft. I’d imagine the chance of re-aggravation is going to be decently high whenever he does come back. Mason has looked really good in his absence.

Yes, that certainly is a possibility. I'm not saying to drop Mason, I'm saying he may become useless once CMC is back.

Probably not, CMC is likely to tear his Achilles if Shanny uses him like he did last year

 

[JohnnyU]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

I’d still carve out a spot even in redraft. I’d imagine the chance of re-aggravation is going to be decently high whenever he does come back. Mason has looked really good in his absence.

Yes, that certainly is a possibility. I'm not saying to drop Mason, I'm saying he may become useless once CMC is back.

Probably not, CMC is likely to tear his Achilles if Shanny uses him like he did last year

Not a fan of predicting future injuries unless I'm joking about Achane or C Watson.

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

I’d still carve out a spot even in redraft. I’d imagine the chance of re-aggravation is going to be decently high whenever he does come back. Mason has looked really good in his absence.

Yes, that certainly is a possibility. I'm not saying to drop Mason, I'm saying he may become useless once CMC is back.

Probably not, CMC is likely to tear his Achilles if Shanny uses him like he did last year

Not a fan of predicting future injuries unless I'm joking about Achane or C Watson.

Not a fan of Shanny

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Curious where he you've seen he's practicing without setbacks.

I didn’t say he was practicing without setbacks. The 49ers haven’t opened his practice window.

I said he practiced without a setback. It was widely reported that he came in and was doing work, and that he felt good afterwards. I believe they called it “ramping up his workload.”

Your Achilles is irrelevant here. You didn’t fly to Germany to get PRP treatments, nor are you likely anything remotely resembling a professional athlete.

So again: so long as CMC continues to progress without setbacks, I see no reason why he wouldn’t be back after the BYE. We’ve seen zero reporting to the contrary, and your feels and anecdotal experience doesn’t downgrade him.

 

[JohnnyU]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

I’d still carve out a spot even in redraft. I’d imagine the chance of re-aggravation is going to be decently high whenever he does come back. Mason has looked really good in his absence.

Yes, that certainly is a possibility. I'm not saying to drop Mason, I'm saying he may become useless once CMC is back.

Probably not, CMC is likely to tear his Achilles if Shanny uses him like he did last year

Not a fan of predicting future injuries unless I'm joking about Achane or C Watson.

Not a fan of Shanny

What does that mean for you with regards to CMC and Mason for the remainder of 2024?

 

[icehouse]

Better sell those Jordan Mason shares......oh wait....it's probably too late for that isn't it.

Why? It is not like CMC is a picture of what staying healthy looks like.

I agree for dynasty, but he may not be a lot of help in redraft once CMC comes back. I think that is stating the obvious, isn't it?

He’s just as valuable as any other handcuff. I have him in a redraft league where I don’t have C-Mac and I’ll be holding.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He’s just as valuable as any other handcuff. I have him in a redraft league where I don’t have C-Mac and I’ll be holding.

Well he does have a sprained AC, and at the moment Guerendo looks like the handcuff to own. Not sayin Mason will get Wally Pipp’d, but I’d be willing to bet Shanny likes what he saw from Guerendo enough to eat into Mason’s workload if both are healthy (Mason wearing non-contact jersey at practice).

I am inclined to agree that the sell high window on Mason has closed. I’m not entirely convinced that Mason would get the same workload if the Niners are without CMC long-term.

He’s probably still a must-hold. But the shine’s worn off a little. Shanny has zero loyalty to RB outside of CMC.

 

[BespokeJort]

He’s just as valuable as any other handcuff. I have him in a redraft league where I don’t have C-Mac and I’ll be holding.

Well he does have a sprained AC, and at the moment Guerendo looks like the handcuff to own. Not sayin Mason will get Wally Pipp’d, but I’d be willing to bet Shanny likes what he saw from Guerendo enough to eat into Mason’s workload if both are healthy (Mason wearing non-contact jersey at practice).

I am inclined to agree that the sell high window on Mason has closed. I’m not entirely convinced that Mason would get the same workload if the Niners are without CMC long-term.

He’s probably still a must-hold. But the shine’s worn off a little. Shanny has zero loyalty to RB outside of CMC.

Obviously that big run to ice the game showcased the speed we know guerendo’s got but he really did not look that good to me as an RB beyond that. Did not seem great at finding holes or waiting for them to develop, ran into the line at full speed (including his blockers) and went down a lot.

Might be a guy you scheme a few touches to make use of the wheels but I’m not at all concerned he eats significantly into mason’s “run into stacked boxes at 6 yards a clip” role. There’s a reason he was rotating with Patrick Taylor or whoever despite Shanny’s noted aversion to committees

Edit: not to be the “if you take away his big plays” guy but prior to his final, 76 yard carry he had 9 rushes for 23 yards. In fantasy obv points are points but I don’t think they’re looking at that as the offense continuing to roll as normal all game

 

[ohio#1eaglesfan]

He’s just as valuable as any other handcuff. I have him in a redraft league where I don’t have C-Mac and I’ll be holding.

Well he does have a sprained AC, and at the moment Guerendo looks like the handcuff to own. Not sayin Mason will get Wally Pipp’d, but I’d be willing to bet Shanny likes what he saw from Guerendo enough to eat into Mason’s workload if both are healthy (Mason wearing non-contact jersey at practice).

I am inclined to agree that the sell high window on Mason has closed. I’m not entirely convinced that Mason would get the same workload if the Niners are without CMC long-term.

He’s probably still a must-hold. But the shine’s worn off a little. Shanny has zero loyalty to RB outside of CMC.

Obviously that big run to ice the game showcased the speed we know guerendo’s got but he really did not look that good to me as an RB beyond that. Did not seem great at finding holes or waiting for them to develop, ran into the line at full speed (including his blockers) and went down a lot.

Might be a guy you scheme a few touches to make use of the wheels but I’m not at all concerned he eats significantly into mason’s “run into stacked boxes at 6 yards a clip” role. There’s a reason he was rotating with Patrick Taylor or whoever despite Shanny’s noted aversion to committees

Edit: not to be the “if you take away his big plays” guy but prior to his final, 76 yard carry he had 9 rushes for 23 yards. In fantasy obv points are points but I don’t think they’re looking at that as the offense continuing to roll as normal all game

Exactly. If Mason is out we’ll see Deebo and the fullback in the back field a lot more

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Edit: not to be the “if you take away his big plays” guy but prior to his final, 76 yard carry he had 9 rushes for 23 yards. In fantasy obv points are points but I don’t think they’re looking at that as the offense continuing to roll as normal all game

lol - you’re totally being that guy.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He’s just as valuable as any other handcuff. I have him in a redraft league where I don’t have C-Mac and I’ll be holding.

Well he does have a sprained AC, and at the moment Guerendo looks like the handcuff to own. Not sayin Mason will get Wally Pipp’d, but I’d be willing to bet Shanny likes what he saw from Guerendo enough to eat into Mason’s workload if both are healthy (Mason wearing non-contact jersey at practice).

I am inclined to agree that the sell high window on Mason has closed. I’m not entirely convinced that Mason would get the same workload if the Niners are without CMC long-term.

He’s probably still a must-hold. But the shine’s worn off a little. Shanny has zero loyalty to RB outside of CMC.

Obviously that big run to ice the game showcased the speed we know guerendo’s got but he really did not look that good to me as an RB beyond that. Did not seem great at finding holes or waiting for them to develop, ran into the line at full speed (including his blockers) and went down a lot.

Might be a guy you scheme a few touches to make use of the wheels but I’m not at all concerned he eats significantly into mason’s “run into stacked boxes at 6 yards a clip” role. There’s a reason he was rotating with Patrick Taylor or whoever despite Shanny’s noted aversion to committees

Edit: not to be the “if you take away his big plays” guy but prior to his final, 76 yard carry he had 9 rushes for 23 yards. In fantasy obv points are points but I don’t think they’re looking at that as the offense continuing to roll as normal all game

Exactly. If Mason is out we’ll see Deebo and the fullback in the back field a lot more

They have Taylor as well, who also looked pretty decent. I’d bet we’ll see a fairly even split between Taylor and Guerendo if Mason can’t go (and I’m guessing he can’t. AC joint + tackling = bad)

 

[Gally]

but I’d be willing to bet Shanny likes what he saw from Guerendo enough to eat into Mason’s workload if both are healthy (Mason wearing non-contact jersey at practice).

Shanny doesn't seem to like to "eat into" his RB workloads. Almost all of his RB switches are injury related. I have no doubt that if Mason is healthy he will get his usual workload.

 

[BespokeJort]

Edit: not to be the “if you take away his big plays” guy but prior to his final, 76 yard carry he had 9 rushes for 23 yards. In fantasy obv points are points but I don’t think they’re looking at that as the offense continuing to roll as normal all game

lol - you’re totally being that guy.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯ if you wanna interpret that as an interchangeable running back as far as the offense’s consistency over the course of the game, be my guest. As a hawks fan and Mason owner who watched the entire game with great interest: it sure didn’t look like it to me

 

[BespokeJort]

He’s just as valuable as any other handcuff. I have him in a redraft league where I don’t have C-Mac and I’ll be holding.

Well he does have a sprained AC, and at the moment Guerendo looks like the handcuff to own. Not sayin Mason will get Wally Pipp’d, but I’d be willing to bet Shanny likes what he saw from Guerendo enough to eat into Mason’s workload if both are healthy (Mason wearing non-contact jersey at practice).

I am inclined to agree that the sell high window on Mason has closed. I’m not entirely convinced that Mason would get the same workload if the Niners are without CMC long-term.

He’s probably still a must-hold. But the shine’s worn off a little. Shanny has zero loyalty to RB outside of CMC.

Obviously that big run to ice the game showcased the speed we know guerendo’s got but he really did not look that good to me as an RB beyond that. Did not seem great at finding holes or waiting for them to develop, ran into the line at full speed (including his blockers) and went down a lot.

Might be a guy you scheme a few touches to make use of the wheels but I’m not at all concerned he eats significantly into mason’s “run into stacked boxes at 6 yards a clip” role. There’s a reason he was rotating with Patrick Taylor or whoever despite Shanny’s noted aversion to committees

Edit: not to be the “if you take away his big plays” guy but prior to his final, 76 yard carry he had 9 rushes for 23 yards. In fantasy obv points are points but I don’t think they’re looking at that as the offense continuing to roll as normal all game

Exactly. If Mason is out we’ll see Deebo and the fullback in the back field a lot more

They have Taylor as well, who also looked pretty decent. I’d bet we’ll see a fairly even split between Taylor and Guerendo if Mason can’t go (and I’m guessing he can’t. AC joint + tackling = bad)

Don’t gotta take away any big plays for Taylor’s stat line to be 5 runs for 16 yards.

As a Mason owner I know a fully healthy CMC (if such a thing can still exist) probably turns him into a pumpkin, but I’m not panic selling over these other guys

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Don’t gotta take away any big plays for Taylor’s stat line to be 5 runs for 16 yards.

As a Mason owner I know a fully healthy CMC (if such a thing can still exist) probably turns him into a pumpkin, but I’m not panic selling over these other guys

Of course not.

I’m just saying if Mason is out, don’t be surprised if it’s a committee.

And I’m betting Mason is out.

The time to sell high on Mason was before he hurt his shoulder.

 

[BladeRunner]

Don’t gotta take away any big plays for Taylor’s stat line to be 5 runs for 16 yards.

As a Mason owner I know a fully healthy CMC (if such a thing can still exist) probably turns him into a pumpkin, but I’m not panic selling over these other guys

Of course not.

I’m just saying if Mason is out, don’t be surprised if it’s a committee.

And I’m betting Mason is out.

The time to sell high on Mason was before he hurt his shoulder.

I think Mason plays this week. No insight, just my gut.

 

[Gally]

The time to sell high on Mason was before he hurt his shoulder.

To be fair, the time to sell anybody high is before they get hurt. Not sure that these other guys really dampen his value. His own injury and the return of CMC are the contributing factors to his value being good or not.

 

[BespokeJort]

Don’t gotta take away any big plays for Taylor’s stat line to be 5 runs for 16 yards.

As a Mason owner I know a fully healthy CMC (if such a thing can still exist) probably turns him into a pumpkin, but I’m not panic selling over these other guys

Of course not.

I’m just saying if Mason is out, don’t be surprised if it’s a committee.

And I’m betting Mason is out.

The time to sell high on Mason was before he hurt his shoulder.

It probably will be a committee if mason’s out; I just haven’t seen anything tells me that holds up when he comes back.

For those trying to sell Mason, I agree with you on the best sell high window.

I only own him on a contender, and don’t trust McCaffrey’s Achilles(x2) one bit. I’ll be holding and treating games where CMC plays as if Mason were hurt

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The time to sell high on Mason was before he hurt his shoulder.

To be fair, the time to sell anybody high is before they get hurt. Not sure that these other guys really dampen his value. His own injury and the return of CMC are the contributing factors to his value being good or not.

Of course. The rub is that when said backup is playing at such a high level, most will simply ride that horse until it drops.

I’m speaking mailing to redraft. Mason is a very obvious hold in dynasty.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I only own him on a contender, and don’t trust McCaffrey’s Achilles(x2) one bit. I’ll be holding and treating games where CMC plays as if Mason were hurt

Just a data point, I’d read that CMC played through this issue before. It wasn’t as severe, but if he doesn’t have any setbacks over the next few weeks, he should be ok.

No guarantees of course - any player can get hurt at any time.

 

[BespokeJort]

I only own him on a contender, and don’t trust McCaffrey’s Achilles(x2) one bit. I’ll be holding and treating games where CMC plays as if Mason were hurt

Just a data point, I’d read that CMC played through this issue before. It wasn’t as severe, but if he doesn’t have any setbacks over the next few weeks, he should be ok.

No guarantees of course - any player can get hurt at any time.

He definitely had calf strains last season iirc. If the Achilles became involved I was not aware of it.

“If he has no setbacks” is doing a lot of lifting there though. He may well come back and be fine. But it seems pretty clear there’s significantly elevated risk above the standard “any player can get hurt at any time.” Not just of coming back and fully blowing it, but coming back and playing a game and then it’s flaring up on Monday, which I know some of the twitter sports doctors were saying there was a pretty significant likelihood of

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He definitely had calf strains last season iirc. If the Achilles became involved I was not aware of it.

“If he has no setbacks” is doing a lot of lifting there though. He may well come back and be fine. But it seems pretty clear there’s significantly elevated risk above the standard “any player can get hurt at any time.” Not just of coming back and fully blowing it, but coming back and playing a game and then it’s flaring up on Monday, which I know some of the twitter sports doctors were saying there was a pretty significant likelihood of

And I’ve seen other twitter sports doctors say if he goes through his rehab with no setbacks that there isn’t a significant risk. That it’s the type of injury that flares up and calms down, which is why the timeline has been dicey.

Could he have a flare-up after playing? Of course - no one is safe from the injury bug.

But it’s not a given. He could certainly come back and play 7 games + playoffs and produce meaningful results.

Since we’re wildly speculating at this point, my guess is If he comes back and gets a game under his belt without any setbacks, it’s probably smoother sailing from there in terms of risk. That 1st game is likely going to make or break his season.

I only have 1 share of CMC in redraft, but I am a 49ers fan, and it’s easy to see how broken & vanilla this offense is without him. If the 49ers are going to have a chance at a deep playoff run, it’s with CMC.

 

[BespokeJort]

He definitely had calf strains last season iirc. If the Achilles became involved I was not aware of it.

“If he has no setbacks” is doing a lot of lifting there though. He may well come back and be fine. But it seems pretty clear there’s significantly elevated risk above the standard “any player can get hurt at any time.” Not just of coming back and fully blowing it, but coming back and playing a game and then it’s flaring up on Monday, which I know some of the twitter sports doctors were saying there was a pretty significant likelihood of

And I’ve seen other twitter sports doctors say if he goes through his rehab with no setbacks that there isn’t a significant risk. That it’s the type of injury that flares up and calms down, which is why the timeline has been dicey.

Could he have a flare-up after playing? Of course - no one is safe from the injury bug.

But it’s not a given. He could certainly come back and play 7 games + playoffs and produce meaningful results.

Since we’re wildly speculating at this point, my guess is If he comes back and gets a game under his belt without any setbacks, it’s probably smoother sailing from there in terms of risk. That 1st game is likely going to make or break his season.

I only have 1 share of CMC in redraft, but I am a 49ers fan, and it’s easy to see how broken & vanilla this offense is without him. If the 49ers are going to have a chance at a deep playoff run, it’s with CMC.

I mean, I don’t think I’m speculating at all—I acknowledge he could come back all systems go and never miss a game again, I just think if you are framing your thinking around “nobody’s safe from the injury bug” as though his Achilles is no more likely to cause issue than anyone else’s you are materially discounting risk in a way nothing we’ve seen with his situation this season would justify

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

He definitely had calf strains last season iirc. If the Achilles became involved I was not aware of it.

“If he has no setbacks” is doing a lot of lifting there though. He may well come back and be fine. But it seems pretty clear there’s significantly elevated risk above the standard “any player can get hurt at any time.” Not just of coming back and fully blowing it, but coming back and playing a game and then it’s flaring up on Monday, which I know some of the twitter sports doctors were saying there was a pretty significant likelihood of

And I’ve seen other twitter sports doctors say if he goes through his rehab with no setbacks that there isn’t a significant risk. That it’s the type of injury that flares up and calms down, which is why the timeline has been dicey.

Could he have a flare-up after playing? Of course - no one is safe from the injury bug.

But it’s not a given. He could certainly come back and play 7 games + playoffs and produce meaningful results.

Since we’re wildly speculating at this point, my guess is If he comes back and gets a game under his belt without any setbacks, it’s probably smoother sailing from there in terms of risk. That 1st game is likely going to make or break his season.

I only have 1 share of CMC in redraft, but I am a 49ers fan, and it’s easy to see how broken & vanilla this offense is without him. If the 49ers are going to have a chance at a deep playoff run, it’s with CMC.

I mean, I don’t think I’m speculating at all—I acknowledge he could come back all systems go and never miss a game again, I just think if you are framing your thinking around “nobody’s safe from the injury bug” as though his Achilles is no more likely to cause issue than anyone else’s you are materially discounting risk in a way nothing we’ve seen with his situation this season would justify

Not at all.

I’m framing it as “if he has no setbacks he’ll play.” And “if he’s healed up enough to play, I don’t see why he’d be at any greater risk for a setback than any other player returning from any other injury.”

You seem to believe there’s significantly higher risk.

Like you, I follow some twitter docs, and also hear Doc Pandia (sp?) on the radio - he’d said once the tendinitis calms down, he should be ok.

So I’m going with that. Perhaps I’m being optimistic about his chances of returning, but I’m being realistic with what might happen if he does.

IMO if he gets through 1 game, he’s likely to be fine ROS.

You see a significantly darker cloud here, which I see as speculation.

 

[Ray_T]

Any updates??

Your fantasy season will be over by the time CMC plays a game.

Not if you got him for peanuts and he’s your secret weapon late season stash.

Just curious, what exactly are you expecting from CMC this season? I don't see him having any fantasy relevance this season.

7 games, he’ll be somewhere between the RB4 and RB11 from weeks 10-17.

But that depends on whether his recovery continues to progress.

I think the big issue with this injury is that there is no quantitative way to measure progress. If he can feel it at all... it is one misstep away from being fully reactivated and a tear is in play. This injury requires doing almost nothing for 2-3 months until even the shadow of a twinge has disappeared... and then you cross your fingers and slowly ramp it up hoping it has recovered, often not. I don't think we even know when the injury peaked and that recovery clock didn't start ticking until he was completely off it.

49ers have given us every reason to disbelieve any positive piece of news they share.

We’ve crossed the breach into paranoid delusion, I see.

Logic has left the topic, so I probably will as well.

You’re welcome to assume what you like. I’m still going off of the known factors. He practiced without any setbacks. If he keeps doing that, he’s going to be playing soon.

The 49ers are a diminished offense without him. He is their offensive centerpiece. It all functions better with him.

Thus when he can play, he will play.

But we take it a week at a time. The question was what we expect from him. I expect him to come back after the BYE and play meaningful football.

And hopefully contribute to a championship.

I don't have any shares of him and rather instead have Mason and Guerendo. However, given my position in fantasy, curious where you've seen if he's "practiced without any setbacks"? All the information I see out there is that he's knocked up Olivia Culpo. Good for him... I'd probably quit football too.

Not sure if you've ever had Achilles tendonitis ... I have and it takes months to heal and then PT during/after and the risk of bowing your Achilles, at least according to my podiatrist, is pretty high if you push it before you are fully recuperated. And it usually stems from something chronic (um, all the horrors of getting older...) and can create other conditions like for example but not limited to plantar fasciitis (also had this, in both feet, excruciating) if not handled perfectly for a variety of reasons.

Anyhow, I'd be surprised if he plays any time soon. Curious where he you've seen he's practicing without setbacks.

Not trying to be rude here, but you're probably not an elite NFL athlete and your Blue Cross plan is probably a notch below the treatment he's been receiving. Not sure what that will yield for CMac, but the range of outcomes is definitely different.

responding to the bolded part only. 100%. pro football players have access to treatments that none of us could likely afford even with a good medical plan.

that doesnt mean the injury is insignificant, but it does likely mean he will heal faster than you did. My understanding is that these injuries can vary widely in recovery time depending on a lot of factors which may include location on the ligament itself. I think we have to go with the 'if hes practicing he may be on the road to returning at some point soon' problem is, we dont know if that means one week or three. but here is hoping for a speedy recovery. I dont own shares of CMC so I have no personal interest in this, but I like to see good players actually play.

 

[Ray_T]

Like you, I follow some twitter docs, and also hear Doc Pandia (sp?) on the radio - he’d said once the tendinitis calms down, he should be ok.

at least ok for a while. I think Tendonitis tends to go away and come back if I'm not mistaken, but my guess is he will get you at least to the end of the season once he returns.

 

[WhoCares]

Like you, I follow some twitter docs, and also hear Doc Pandia (sp?) on the radio - he’d said once the tendinitis calms down, he should be ok.

at least ok for a while. I think Tendonitis tends to go away and come back if I'm not mistaken, but my guess is he will get you at least to the end of the season once he returns.

It’s a repetitive stress injury. I don’t see how once it calms down that it doesn’t flare right back once subjected to in-game stress, which is a stress no amount of practice can replicate.

Even if he looks great in drills, practice, tests, whatever, the real test will be getting hit by a massive DL/LB that wants to tear your leg off, getting stepped on in a pile by a couple of 300+ pounders, pushing the pile for a 1st down/TD. They aren’t doing that in practice, no telling how his tendons will react.

 

[leftcoastheel]

Like you, I follow some twitter docs, and also hear Doc Pandia (sp?) on the radio - he’d said once the tendinitis calms down, he should be ok.

at least ok for a while. I think Tendonitis tends to go away and come back if I'm not mistaken, but my guess is he will get you at least to the end of the season once he returns.

It’s a repetitive stress injury. I don’t see how once it calms down that it doesn’t flare right back once subjected to in-game stress, which is a stress no amount of practice can replicate.

Even if he looks great in drills, practice, tests, whatever, the real test will be getting hit by a massive DL/LB that wants to tear your leg off, getting stepped on in a pile by a couple of 300+ pounders, pushing the pile for a 1st down/TD. They aren’t doing that in practice, no telling how his tendons will react.

Agree with this. Moving and cutting even in practice will also cause strain. I guess for some CMC is Wolverine incarnate. He's human and these types of injuries suck.