RB Damien Harris, BUF (1 Viewer)

[Anarchy99]

Here's a quote that Faust just posted on Rhamondre Stevenson.

Patriots running backs coach Ivan Fears said Rhamondre Stevenson's game day status will be a week-to-week decision. 

Stevenson missed a block in Week 6 that led to a sack and was made inactive for New England's Week 7 game against the Jets. He had excelled with precious little opportunity the prior week against the Cowboys, gaining 62 yards on eight touches, including three receptions. He also scored a short touchdown against Dallas. Fears said Stevenson's game day status will hinge on his practice performance during the week, saying it would come down to activating the rookie or J.J. Taylor, who has also made costly mistake this year. Damien Harris remains the team's primary ball carrier whether or not Stevenson is active. 

RELATED: 

J.J. Taylor

, Damien Harris

SOURCE: Mike Reiss on Twitter 

Oct 26, 2021, 12:32 PM ET

I'd say right now Bolden is the leader going into this week, but it might change. 

The quote you just posted has nothing to do with Stevenson for this week. The week to week stuff was them deciding which player to have active on game day (between him and Taylor). Stevenson had 106 YFS on 12 touches last week. If healthy, he would be the clear best option running the football if Harris can't go. Except he's not currently healthy or cleared to play. We will know more this time tomorrow.

If RS and DH can't go, that would mean Taylor and Bolden will split the workload against a team that doesn't give up much to RB. Not a great fantasy situation for this week IMO.

 

[Team Smokin']

The quote you just posted has nothing to do with Stevenson for this week. The week to week stuff was them deciding which player to have active on game day (between him and Taylor). Stevenson had 106 YFS on 12 touches last week. If healthy, he would be the clear best option running the football if Harris can't go. Except he's not currently healthy or cleared to play. We will know more this time tomorrow.

If RS and DH can't go, that would mean Taylor and Bolden will split the workload against a team that doesn't give up much to RB. Not a great fantasy situation for this week IMO.

While Harris has started every game for me and he's ascended better than I expected. I wanted to handcuff him with Stevenson for the last half of the season. Still might. I am looking beyond this week and currently do not have any NE RB in my starting line up. But, I am watching this unfold this week. Currently picked up Bolden just in case.

 

[Pigskin Fanatic]

per blurbs in CBS for these players, Harris was not at practice today (Thursday) and Stevenson was on the sidelines and not participating. i picked up bolden out of desperation. so far it's looking like harris will be out and stevenson still gtd but not trending up since yesterday.

 

[GoBirds]

per blurbs in CBS for these players, Harris was not at practice today (Thursday) and Stevenson was on the sidelines and not participating. i picked up bolden out of desperation. so far it's looking like harris will be out and stevenson still gtd but not trending up since yesterday.

If Harris is out how many RB in the mix and who gets the most?

 

[Anarchy99]

If Harris is out how many RB in the mix and who gets the most?

It shouldn’t matter. Browns don’t give up much to RB. IMO, Stevenson would have a chance of putting up a somewhat palatable fantasy line. But he might not play either. Bolden might get a few receptions no matter who plays. Taylor might get some work but is hard to trust and unproven. 

 

[Team Smokin']

Harris just ruled OUT about half hour ago. 

 

[Faust]

Damien Harris (concussion) returned to practice Tuesday.

Harris' status is unclear since he's still officially in the league's protocol. It's an encouraging sign that he was available for Tuesday's walkthrough with only 48 hours remaining until kick-off. Rhamondre Stevenson out-touched Brandon Bolden 24-6 without Harris available on Sunday but the latter would likely return to his workhorse role if available against the Falcons. Stevenson could still provide standalone value if he's allotted more touches than Bolden.

RELATED: 

Rhamondre Stevenson

SOURCE: Jim McBride on Twitter

 

[Timmay]

Did he lose his job after Stevenson's performance? 

 

[JohnnyU]

Did he lose his job after Stevenson's performance? 

If I've learned anything about the Patriots, it is that you can't base next week usage of RBs on this week's stats.

 

[jobarules]

Did he lose his job after Stevenson's performance? 

Why? Stevenson didnt do anything Harris hasnt already done this season.

 

[tigerz]

Why? Stevenson didnt do anything Harris hasnt already done this season.

“But he catches and looks better when they are both in the same game.“ - everyone who has Stevenson and not Harris and analysts doing ww pickup columns

 

 

[tricky92]

“But he catches and looks better when they are both in the same game.“ - everyone who has Stevenson and not Harris and analysts doing ww pickup columns

 

“But he catches and looks better when they are both in the same game.“

I don't think this is fake news.

 

[Leroy Hoard]

I think Bolden is the one most hurt of the 3, but Harris will lose some touches.

 

[kface]

I just traded him away but only because I don't like the complicated backfield this is going to be

I don't think Harris is losing his job.  He i still good for 12+ carries a week

 

[Faust]

Damien Harris (concussion) was removed from the Week 11 injury report and will play Thursday night against the Falcons.

Brandon Bolden (hip) is questionable. After Rhamondre Stevenson's 20-100-2 Week 10 against the Browns, the Patriots' backfield is muddled again. Look for both Harris and Stevenson to see meaningful work against Atlanta with the Patriots favored by seven points.

Nov 17, 2021, 4:09 PM ET

 

[Team Smokin']

With Bolden (hip) being questionable I can easily see both RB's (Harris & Stevenson) producing well and each potentially a TD and 50-60 yards +. There's talent and game flow and NE being favored by a TD I believe. I can see starting either RB with perhaps Harris a notch above. 

 

[Anarchy99]

I haven't seen anywhere that Bolden won't play. NE hasn't really practiced this week being on a short week. We probably won't know until 90 minutes before game time (unless they rule him out earlier). That probably won't make a huge difference either way, as he would likely be a passing down option more than a running option.

 

[Cobbler1]

I haven't seen anywhere that Bolden won't play. NE hasn't really practiced this week being on a short week. We probably won't know until 90 minutes before game time (unless they rule him out earlier). That probably won't make a huge difference either way, as he would likely be a passing down option more than a running option.

Do you anticipate an early down split between Harris and Rhamonster? Gotta choose between RS and Alex Collins. Save me Anarchy!

 

[Anarchy99]

Do you anticipate an early down split between Harris and Rhamonster? Gotta choose between RS and Alex Collins. Save me Anarchy!

I would guess Harris gets top billing and will have the most carries. RS gets more touches than he had been getting and sees more targets. If Bolden plays and ATL gets pressure, he will get more snaps for blitz pick up and potential dump offs. I think both Harris and RS get in the end zone. Harris and Stevenson could end up with similar fantasy totals this week and both are worth starting (especially for teams with limited options). Definitely Stevenson over Collins.

 

[Nikkelz]

I have both Harris and RS. Would anyone play either of those two over Gibson? Starting CMC and AJ Dillon and need a 3rd RB. 

 

[xenon]

I have both Harris and RS. Would anyone play either of those two over Gibson? Starting CMC and AJ Dillon and need a 3rd RB. 

I have RS and Gibson and Ingram and AP and Carson. 

Trying to figure out who to roll w/ in PPR.  I'm in a must win situation so I may just roll with RS and Ingram as I think they both get GL carries...but clearly my decision making this season has sucked.  Opinions welcomed...

 

[menobrown]

I have both Harris and RS. Would anyone play either of those two over Gibson? Starting CMC and AJ Dillon and need a 3rd RB. 

No, not with Gibson coming off the bye week and handling 24 carries. I know he was limited today but that's a good sign to me and I'd roll with him.

I have RS and Gibson and Ingram and AP and Carson. 

Trying to figure out who to roll w/ in PPR.  I'm in a must win situation so I may just roll with RS and Ingram as I think they both get GL carries...but clearly my decision making this season has sucked.  Opinions welcomed...

Same to you, Gibson unless Kamara is out again in which case Ingram but Kamara  returned to practice.

I'd cite same reason. Gibson handled 24 carries last week, sign of better health IMO. Even if McNicols is out I can't see AP getting that many carries and Carson is more likely to not play again this year then he is to play this week.

 

[yoman]

Field Yates tweeted that Harris has cleared the concussion protocol so I guess no Stevenson this week unless you are desperate. 

 

[Team Smokin']

I think both RB's are eagerly looking forward to performing and they could cause a catalyst-ic type of wow performance with and through each other. I'm back to owning RS in all three leagues and DH and RS both in the third league. My decision will be which one to start between those two. It may not be as easy as it sounds. RS starts in one, sits in one, and as of now DH over RS in the Flex. We'll see...

 

[Goooals]

DH owner here with a lot of the same decisions to make as the rest of you. The main problem is the Thursday night game. Not knowing if I can start Ingram yet or if Chubb will play or not makes it difficult to pull the trigger.

As of now, it looks like he is playing and at least will be in a time-share with a heavy run script game plan which bodes well for him. 

12-60-1 seems like a fair stat line for him. He has had a few long runs called back in each of his last few games due to holding penalties as well. 

 

[tigerz]

Yup… leaning towards starting Harris over Barkley. I just can’t see how patriots won’t dominate a Patterson less falcons team and run out the clock with both these guys. Atlanta got shut down last week, patriots have been rock stars on d so patriots d should really shut them down and give the offense short fields or have lots of 3 and outs which lead to the patriots offense running out the clock with both rbs against a bad run d. It seems obvious.….

which means the opposite will probably happen and Harris gets injured first play of game and Stevenson in for rest.

 

[Mingooch]

I just traded him away but only because I don't like the complicated backfield this is going to be

I don't think Harris is losing his job.  He i still good for 12+ carries a week

Out of curiosity, what did u give and get in that trade?

 

[kface]

Out of curiosity, what did u give and get in that trade?

It's a little complicated for us in that we have a keeper league where you can keep the guy 2 rounds earlier than where you drafted him.  Two years ago i drafted him in the 14th so he was a 12th round keeper this year.  Next year he will be 10th round keeper

So long story short i traded him to a team that is out of it and he flipped me aaron jones who is not a keeper straight up

 

[Loipz]

Glad that game gave us clarity on this murky backfield!

 

[Faust]

Damien Harris rushed 10 times for 56 yards in New England's Week 11 win over the Falcons. 

Harris narrowly out-snapped Rhamondre Stevenson as the two roughly alternated drives with Harris coming on late in some of Stevenson's drives. Harris had a couple of long runs, but the Patriots only generated one red zone rush for him, and it was at the 20. He'll be on the FLEX line as a good running attack is almost evenly divided as the Patriots take on Tennessee in Week 12. 

Nov 19, 2021, 12:00 AM ET

 

[Kiddnets]

Harris actually looked explosive when he got his chances...but Pats are gonna Pats with RBs....none are startable.  

 

[kface]

Harris actually looked explosive when he got his chances...but Pats are gonna Pats with RBs....none are startable.  

And they are both GL backs as well so you just never know who is going to get the tds.  It's not something to rely on

 

[humpback]

Harris wasn't cleared from the protocol until Wednesday, it was a short week against a weak opponent, and he still out snapped and touched Stevenson until (essentially) their last drive of the game when the outcome was certain.

It could very well be a 50/50 and/or a "hot hand" scenario, but it could also be 60/30/10. I think this week will be more telling.

 

[Football Jones]

I've always liked Harris, but Stevenson will overtake him at some point (certainly sometime next season at the latest). Don't buy into the RBBC with these two (long-term). They're very similar other than Stevenson being the better raw talent (both rushing & receiving).

Stevenson's time is coming. My advice is to use the "confusion" to acquire him in dynasty leagues. His price-to-potential production ratio is really strong. Stevenson has a good chance to be a stud.

 

[Anarchy99]

I've always liked Harris, but Stevenson will overtake him at some point (certainly sometime next season at the latest).

Don't buy into the RBBC with these two. They're very similar other than Stevenson being the better raw talent (both rushing & receiving).

Stevenson's time is coming. My advice is to use the "confusion" to acquire him in dynasty leagues. He's got a good chance to be a stud FF RB.

Harris isn’t going anywhere (not until 2023), and I think NE will continue to use both backs. They will likely alternate series with Harris getting the first one in each half. Probably will be a 60/40 split between the two with Harris getting a bigger piece of the pie. We can revisit next year, but I doubt the usage will change much. Maybe it ends up 50/50 in 2022. A lot can chance by 2023.

 

[Football Jones]

Harris isn’t going anywhere (not until 2023), and I think NE will continue to use both backs. They will likely alternate series with Harris getting the first one in each half. Probably will be a 60/40 split between the two with Harris getting a bigger piece of the pie. We can revisit next year, but I doubt the usage will change much. Maybe it ends up 50/50 in 2022. A lot can chance by 2023.

I don't believe there's any way Harris holds off Stevenson. I expect it to happen by the start of '22, certainly sometime during next season.

Even more reason to acquire Stevenson in dynasty leagues is Harris' likely departure after next year.

 

[Anarchy99]

I don't believe there's any way Harris holds off Stevenson. I expect it to happen by the start of '22, certainly sometime during next season.

Even more reason to acquire Stevenson in dynasty leagues is Harris' likely departure after next year.

The way for RS to get more reps is if NE were to trade Harris in the last year of his contract ( a la Michel). That certainly could happen (although the return for RBs is generally low and not usually worth it). 

While I get that people like the shiny new toy, Harris embodies everything NE loves. Coachable, hard working, gives 100% in practice, gym rat, finishes runs, decent blitz pickup, executes plays as designed, etc. Maybe Stevenson will grow into all that, but BB likes what he has with Harris. Harris would have to underperform and Stevenson would have to knock it out of the park to flip the script at this point IMO. Maybe that will happen, but at this point that seems like a future proposition than a current outcome. If the OL does it’s job, there’s a role for both guys and that will help keep both guys fresh. 

 

[Football Jones]

The way for RS to get more reps is if NE were to trade Harris in the last year of his contract ( a la Michel). That certainly could happen (although the return for RBs is generally low and not usually worth it). 

While I get that people like the shiny new toy, Harris embodies everything NE loves. Coachable, hard working, gives 100% in practice, gym rat, finishes runs, decent blitz pickup, executes plays as designed, etc. Maybe Stevenson will grow into all that, but BB likes what he has with Harris. Harris would have to underperform and Stevenson would have to knock it out of the park to flip the script at this point IMO. Maybe that will happen, but at this point that seems like a future proposition than a current outcome. If the OL does it’s job, there’s a role for both guys and that will help keep both guys fresh. 

I like shiny new things, but Stevenson is a big-time talent, IMO. For the record, I'm not saying anything will change this season.

I believe Stevenson will become the starter at some point next season with Harris still getting some touches (how many is up for debate). The good news for Stevenson's dynasty value is whichever way it goes, Harris very likely will be gone in '23 (he's good enough to have some demand in FA).

 

[Faust]

Damien Harris (neck) is listed as questionable against the Titans.

Harris showed up on Wednesday's injury report with a neck injury that appeared to be new. He didn't miss any practices, however, getting in limited sessions all week. He should be fin for Sunday, and could see a bigger role than last week with Rhamondre Stevenson questionable with a knee injury. Harris looks like a low-end RB2 if Stevenson goes. His ceiling is significantly higher if Stevenson is ruled out. 

Nov 26, 2021, 4:17 PM ET

 

[Team Smokin']

Time to revisit this duel RB threat in NE. Will it mirror DEN with Gordan / J Williams at nearly 50/50, hence lowering the value of both Harris and Stevenson? I'm afraid so. I went from excited to add Stevenson on all squads and handcuffing Harris on another to might not be able to start either based upon the rest of my team. Harris used to be a for sure play. Not so much right now. But, the landscape changes from week to week, even play to play. 

Btw...both questionable and both expected to play in a Vegas projected low scoring game. 

 

[tigerz]

Time to revisit this duel RB threat in NE. Will it mirror DEN with Gordan / J Williams at nearly 50/50, hence lowering the value of both Harris and Stevenson? I'm afraid so. I went from excited to add Stevenson on all squads and handcuffing Harris on another to might not be able to start either based upon the rest of my team. Harris used to be a for sure play. Not so much right now. But, the landscape changes from week to week, even play to play. 

Btw...both questionable and both expected to play in a Vegas projected low scoring game. 

im hoping for more clarity on If Harris takes on the Gordon role with slightly more red zone Carries. Right now cut Stevenson as handcuff in one league and have only Stevenson in another. Both may have little value with their terrible schedule. May have to cut both eventually.

 

[Team Smokin']

im hoping for more clarity on If Harris takes on the Gordon role with slightly more red zone Carries. Right now cut Stevenson as handcuff in one league and have only Stevenson in another. Both may have little value with their terrible schedule. May have to cut both eventually.

The only advantage Gordon has over J Williams is his propensity for scoring TD's. In the case of Harris and Stevenson I feel it is more 50/50 even in the TD department. Logic tells me to Flex Harris over J Williams, Stevenson, Jeudy, and Aiyuk. Gathering information and may plug in Aiyuk as I like the MIN - SF scoring feast better. Just not sure yet.

 

[Faust]

NFL Network's Ian Rapoport reports Damien Harris (neck, questionable) is expected to play in Week 12 against the Titans.

Harris got in a full week of limited practices after popping up on the injury report with a new neck injury on Wednesday. He should continue splitting the backfield with Rhamondre Stevenson this week. Harris was out-carried by Stevenson 12-10 last week but both backs should be able to get there against the Titans. Vegas has the Patriots as touchdown favorites at home this week, keeping Harris in line for FLEX value.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter

Nov 28, 2021, 8:31 AM ET

 

[MissionCoach]

So, if Jones ends up  playing today, and you start him,  would you still start Dillon?

 

[Faust]

DAMIEN HARRIS RB, NEW ENGLAND PATRIOTS

The Athletic's Matthew Fairburn said the Patriots "shouldn't be afraid" to run the ball against Buffalo in Week 13. 

The Bills rush defense is a good one on paper: Only five teams allow fewer rushing yards per game than Buffalo, and six teams have seen fewer rushing attempts against them in 2021. No team has given up a lower expected points added (EPA) per rush than Buffalo through Week 12. The Bills have been gouged by the league's best run offenses though. In Week 6, Derrick Henry went for 143 yards and three scores against the Bills. And Jonathan Taylor exploded for 185 rushing yards and five total touchdowns against Buffalo in Week 11. Since the New England offensive line got back to full health in October, the Patriots' running game has been effective, bordering on dominant. Against a Buffalo secondary that ranks among the league's best, the Patriots could attack the Bills with Damien Harris and Rhamondre Stevenson, each of whom have 21 carries over the team's past two games. Harris should be considered an RB2 in Week 13 and Stevenson is a decent flex option in deeper leagues. They've ceded passing down work to Brandon Bolden, who has some appeal in PPR formats. 

RELATED: 

Rhamondre Stevenson

, Brandon Bolden

SOURCE: The Athletic 

Dec 3, 2021, 10:46 AM ET

 

[Truebluey]

Harris looked great, obviously, but Stevenson looked terrific once he came in. Impressive performances by both. 

The big question is how long Harris' hammy injury lingers? The fact that he came out of the game in the first half, and then reinjured it on his first big run of the second is not good. 

Most hammies are 2-3 weeks, so I'd be surprised if we see him back before week 16, and with the possible reinjury it might linger longer. 

 

[Team Smokin']

Harris looked great, obviously, but Stevenson looked terrific once he came in. Impressive performances by both. 

The big question is how long Harris' hammy injury lingers? The fact that he came out of the game in the first half, and then reinjured it on his first big run of the second is not good. 

Most hammies are 2-3 weeks, so I'd be surprised if we see him back before week 16, and with the possible reinjury it might linger longer. 

And Belichick knows where the team is and team needs at RB now and into the future. He won't risk Harris with a hammy. I think you are correct. Stephenson primed for a big couple games sounds like to me after the bye. He wants Harris healthy for the playoffs and hopefully get some work in before the regular season ends?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Stephenson owner and was wondering what I was going to do for an ailing Zeke the next couple weeks as we start the Playoffs and final weeks of the regular FF season, guess I'm keeping him for next Saturday's game at Indy 8:15 start time.  

 

[Team Smokin']

Stephenson owner and was wondering what I was going to do for an ailing Zeke the next couple weeks as we start the Playoffs and final weeks of the regular FF season, guess I'm keeping him for next Saturday's game at Indy 8:15 start time.  

And now sounds like an ailing Pollard. Just gotta see and try and decipher how it all plays out MoP. I do like the way Stephenson runs. More juicy with Harris out healing up. Initial thoughts is Stephenson will be highly ranked in week 15 with Harris out next week. Did you see him pull up lame with his hammy? A tweak or 2-3 weeks MoP? 

Looks like Zeke is getting the love again this week even when ailing as Jerry Jones knows what is best LOL. 

 

[Ministry of Pain]

And now sounds like an ailing Pollard. Just gotta see and try and decipher how it all plays out MoP. I do like the way Stephenson runs. More juicy with Harris out healing up. Initial thoughts is Stephenson will be highly ranked in week 15 with Harris out next week. Did you see him pull up lame with his hammy? A tweak or 2-3 weeks MoP? 

Looks like Zeke is getting the love again this week even when ailing as Jerry Jones knows what is best LOL. 

That was no tweak, looked like a real "pop" but I'm not a doctor