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RB handcuffs (1 Viewer)

Deuce'sWild

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I started a thread about a RB strategy that would require trying to land one of the Den or Indy backfields in the middle rounds, which got me to thinking about a poll, or discussion on who the best RB handcuffs (or tandems) are this year that can be had late.

Lets assume you have a top4 pick this year, and can land an elite RB like LJ, LT, SA or Portis....which I think most would be comfortable with. In other words, you've got a guy that can get you almost as many points on his own, as two mediocre RBs might be able to.

So, you get two or three stud Wrs, and then try to land a backfield from a team that consistently produces good RB numbers....OR, who has a couple of RBs who could perform well.

We are looking to avoid teams with a chance of RBBC.

Here's my top 5:

1) Denver: Although each RB may get carries, they will produce good numbers reagardless. Bell will probably see 10-15 carries, and Dayne around 20-25, I presume. Has a reputation of being a stud RB producer, regardless of who they put back there. If one guy emerges, you may have yourself a 1500 yd rusher, if not you're still going to get decent production from one of them.

2) Chicago: Ball control, great defense, bad weather, and two very capable RBs. I don't see a RBBC approach here. Last year it was Jones, this year could be Benson, as Jones has contract issues. Both can be had late, and either could be viable options.

3) Carolina: Foster and Williams are both very capable runners. Foster has an injury history, so if he goes down Williams could be huge. Not sure how the splits will work out, but I think both guys can be had late, and either can be a nice compliment to your stud RB.

4) Indy: Rhodes has shown he can do it, and the coaches are raving about Addai's skills. I see Rhodes early, and Addai late in the year. Colts have never been a RBBC team, but they've never really had to much. Best offense in the business, so having the starter could be huge. Both can be had in 6th and 7th in most leagues.

5) Pats: Dillon has shown a nose for the endzone, if he can get some yardage he's be a solid RB2. Maroney was high on almost every NFL teams draft charts, I hear. I don't see Dillon finishing the season. Maroney could be money down the stretch. Pats don't run much though, and the def isn't what it used to be.

Just missed...

Tenn: C. Brown is fragile, and L. White is a huge sleeper this year. HC has stated they want to get back to running the ball more, like they did in Eddie George's glory days. If Brown keeps the job you have a decent option, if he gets hurt I think White may go nuts (just a hunch).

Let me have it

 
I'm leaning this direction too. Can you put the ADPs on here too? It seems that this works better if 1) there is a significant gap between the 2 players' ADPs or 2) both players' ADP are sufficiently low enough that you're not burning 2 high-mid picks, so DEN and IND may be tough to pull off.

 
Handcuff Thread

Good stuff in the other threads as well!!!

The definition of Hancuff does differ for some people.... To me I call Handcuff and what others call "RBBC" the same thing....

If I have a top RB and I get his backup - I'm handcuffing Them...

If I wait and grab two backs from one team that I think works well together and won't be too much of a pain to tell which is the starter, I STILL say I'm Handcuffing these backs.

 
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Handcuff Thread

Good stuff in the other threads as well!!!

The definition of Hancuff does differ for some people.... To me I call Handcuff and what others call "RBBC" the same thing....

If I have a top RB and I get his backup - I'm handcuffing Them...

If I wait and grab two backs from one team that I think works well together and won't be too much of a pain to tell which is the starter, I STILL say I'm Handcuffing these backs.
yeah, I think that's where I've gotten confused. I refer to them as separate things: Handcuffing with a lesser RB that you don't expect to play unless the starter is hurt and RBBC where you grab two guys who are close to equal.
 
12 Team ADP's from Draft Dominator

1) Denver: Although each RB may get carries, they will produce good numbers reagardless. Bell will probably see 10-15 carries, and Dayne around 20-25, I presume. Has a reputation of being a stud RB producer, regardless of who they put back there. If one guy emerges, you may have yourself a 1500 yd rusher, if not you're still going to get decent production from one of them.

ADP: Bell 4.05 Dayne 7.02

2) Chicago: Ball control, great defense, bad weather, and two very capable RBs. I don't see a RBBC approach here. Last year it was Jones, this year could be Benson, as Jones has contract issues. Both can be had late, and either could be viable options.

ADP: Jones 4.11 Benson 5.04

3) Carolina: Foster and Williams are both very capable runners. Foster has an injury history, so if he goes down Williams could be huge. Not sure how the splits will work out, but I think both guys can be had late, and either can be a nice compliment to your stud RB.

ADP: Foster 4.09 Williams 6.09

4) Indy: Rhodes has shown he can do it, and the coaches are raving about Addai's skills. I see Rhodes early, and Addai late in the year. Colts have never been a RBBC team, but they've never really had to much. Best offense in the business, so having the starter could be huge. Both can be had in 6th and 7th in most leagues.

ADP: Addai 5.06 Rhodes 6.08

5) Pats: Dillon has shown a nose for the endzone, if he can get some yardage he's be a solid RB2. Maroney was high on almost every NFL teams draft charts, I hear. I don't see Dillon finishing the season. Maroney could be money down the stretch. Pats don't run much though, and the def isn't what it used to be.

ADP: Dillon 4.06 Maroney 7.08

Just missed...

Tenn: C. Brown is fragile, and L. White is a huge sleeper this year. HC has stated they want to get back to running the ball more, like they did in Eddie George's glory days. If Brown keeps the job you have a decent option, if he gets hurt I think White may go nuts (just a hunch).



ADP: Brown 6.12 White 7.06
:popcorn:
 
12 Team ADP's from Draft Dominator

1)  Denver:  Although each RB may get carries, they will produce good numbers reagardless.  Bell will probably see 10-15 carries, and Dayne around 20-25, I presume.  Has a reputation of being a stud RB producer, regardless of who they put back there.  If one guy emerges, you may have yourself a 1500 yd rusher, if not you're still going to get decent production from one of them.

ADP: Bell 4.05 Dayne 7.02

2)  Chicago:  Ball control, great defense, bad weather, and two very capable RBs.  I don't see a RBBC approach here.  Last year it was Jones, this year could be Benson, as Jones has contract issues.  Both can be had late, and either could be viable options.

ADP: Jones 4.11 Benson 5.04

3)  Carolina:  Foster and Williams are both very capable runners.  Foster has an injury history, so if he goes down Williams could be huge.  Not sure how the splits will work out, but I think both guys can be had late, and either can be a nice compliment to your stud RB.

ADP: Foster 4.09 Williams 6.09

4)  Indy:  Rhodes has shown he can do it, and the coaches are raving about Addai's skills.  I see Rhodes early, and Addai late in the year.  Colts have never been a RBBC team, but they've never really had to much.  Best offense in the business, so having the starter could be huge.  Both can be had in 6th and 7th in most leagues.

ADP: Addai 5.06 Rhodes 6.08

5)  Pats:  Dillon has shown a nose for the endzone, if he can get some yardage he's be a solid RB2.  Maroney was high on almost every NFL teams draft charts, I hear.  I don't see Dillon finishing the season.  Maroney could be money down the stretch.  Pats don't run much though, and the def isn't what it used to be.

ADP: Dillon 4.06 Maroney 7.08

Just missed...

Tenn:  C. Brown is fragile, and L. White is a huge sleeper this year.  HC has stated they want to get back to running the ball more, like they did in Eddie George's glory days.  If Brown keeps the job you have a decent option, if he gets hurt I think White may go nuts (just a hunch). 



ADP: Brown 6.12 White 7.06
:popcorn:
Thanks! :thumbup: Seems to me like Denver may be the toughest to pull off, as someone in your league is probable to draft Bell even earlier than his ADP. With Foster's injury issues and the addition of Deangelo, he may slip to the 5th. I really like the Carolina duo in the 5th and 6th, if I can get them,

Chicago may be hard to get both on, since their ADPs are so close together....although I do have 4.08 and 5.03. :popcorn:

 
Many have already articulated what to look for, and what to stay away from, when it comes to cuffing. Look for teams with a 'feature back' philosophy with only two viable RB's in the mix, and the starter status is unsettled or very tenuous at best.

In addition to this criteria...I further tune the equation by favoring a scenario where I've projected the back half of the tandem higher than their ADP, and there is more than a one round gap between the two involved in the cuff.

My logic here is...I'm going to have to reach for the second back in the pair. So, I don't want to reach for a guy unless I think his ADP is lower than it should be. And, I want to minimize the risk of missing on the second half of the pair. Having to pick the pair in back to back rounds (unless you're on the turn), introduces some risk. So...I look for some significance in the gaps.

I think my twist is more appropriate for a scenario that cuffs RB3 and RB4. If someone emerges then they can either supplant RB2...or be used (via trade) to strengthen your team in other places.

The two I like at this juncture are:

A. Green with an ADP of 6.4 and S. Gado with an ADP of 10.1. I think Gado could easily win the job outright and can be had cheap...even if you reach in late 8 or round 9.

F. Gore with an ADP of 7.5 and K. Barlow with an ADP of 10.3. Barlow is a legitimate back who just needs to get his head on straight. If he does, he has great value.

 
12 Team ADP's from Draft Dominator

1) Denver: Although each RB may get carries, they will produce good numbers reagardless. Bell will probably see 10-15 carries, and Dayne around 20-25, I presume. Has a reputation of being a stud RB producer, regardless of who they put back there. If one guy emerges, you may have yourself a 1500 yd rusher, if not you're still going to get decent production from one of them.

ADP: Bell 4.05 Dayne 7.02

2) Chicago: Ball control, great defense, bad weather, and two very capable RBs. I don't see a RBBC approach here. Last year it was Jones, this year could be Benson, as Jones has contract issues. Both can be had late, and either could be viable options.

ADP: Jones 4.11 Benson 5.04

3) Carolina: Foster and Williams are both very capable runners. Foster has an injury history, so if he goes down Williams could be huge. Not sure how the splits will work out, but I think both guys can be had late, and either can be a nice compliment to your stud RB.

ADP: Foster 4.09 Williams 6.09

4) Indy: Rhodes has shown he can do it, and the coaches are raving about Addai's skills. I see Rhodes early, and Addai late in the year. Colts have never been a RBBC team, but they've never really had to much. Best offense in the business, so having the starter could be huge. Both can be had in 6th and 7th in most leagues.

ADP: Addai 5.06 Rhodes 6.08

5) Pats: Dillon has shown a nose for the endzone, if he can get some yardage he's be a solid RB2. Maroney was high on almost every NFL teams draft charts, I hear. I don't see Dillon finishing the season. Maroney could be money down the stretch. Pats don't run much though, and the def isn't what it used to be.

ADP: Dillon 4.06 Maroney 7.08

Just missed...

Tenn: C. Brown is fragile, and L. White is a huge sleeper this year. HC has stated they want to get back to running the ball more, like they did in Eddie George's glory days. If Brown keeps the job you have a decent option, if he gets hurt I think White may go nuts (just a hunch).



ADP: Brown 6.12 White 7.06
:popcorn:
Thanks! :thumbup: Seems to me like Denver may be the toughest to pull off, as someone in your league is probable to draft Bell even earlier than his ADP. With Foster's injury issues and the addition of Deangelo, he may slip to the 5th. I really like the Carolina duo in the 5th and 6th, if I can get them,

Chicago may be hard to get both on, since their ADPs are so close together....although I do have 4.08 and 5.03. :popcorn:
I wonder how these draft positions play out in a real draft, instead of averaging a bunch of drafts/mocks together. For instance Jones & Benson's ADPs are virtually back-to-back, but I highly doubt they would be that close in real life. In other words, if I draft Jones at 5.01, and the next guy drafts Benson at 5.02, that implies that he is as confident that Benson will start as I am that Jones will start. Actually it implies he has a higher confidence level because he already knows that I have the handcuff.
 
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