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Round 7!
4.37 and size.
4.37 and size.
Wonder why his stats were so meh but seems like another good value pick by KC
The Rutgers o-line is often overwhelmed by the size of the defensive line in most of the B1G matchups. I’m local so watched a few games - I think he’s a good runner and have taken him twice in the fifth round now, but obviously I’d be surprised if he’s on my roster all season.Waldman says terrible offensive line at Rutgers. Said that criticisms of Pacheco's game could possibly be linked to that. I'm sure some of it is on the runner, too, but just repeating what he wrote.
With the way guys like Derek Williams and Derrick Gore were able to be productive with carries in that offense, this guy with his size and speed should be able to do what guys like that can at least, but we’ll see. Gore is still there I believe and Williams may be at some point since he hasn’t signed anywhere I don’t think.Took him in the sixth of a draft and feel the same way Dr. Octopus does. Be surprised if he's there all season, but I also hold RoJo and wanted to see if I could score part of KC's backfield. Doesn't mean they're done signing guys or that Helaire is going away. Just putting myself in position with a dart throw. Plus, I said in the combine thread that I'd remember him and his story (even before KC picked him) if it came around to me, and shootin' sure it did, so I picked him.
Yep. One would think he's not going to languish on the street with his production for them last year.Williams may be at some point since he hasn’t signed anywhere I don’t think.
Round 7!
4.37 and size.
Possibly, but the same things were said about CEH a few years ago - minus the 1st round draft capital. Of course, you can get Pacheco for a fraction of the price that CEH went for back then.One of the better deep sleepers/lottery ticket RBs IMO. The KC offense and the competition (or lack thereof) in front of him are both big positives.
wutHe runs like he is trying to escape a burning building. Good but not elite speed, doesn’t look very shifty, and for a good size back he doesn’t seem to run over people. Not sure what to make of him really. Has some speed and gets to the hole quickly but not sure how far that will take him.
CEH is a plodder though. This dude can fly.Possibly, but the same things were said about CEH a few years ago - minus the 1st round draft capital.One of the better deep sleepers/lottery ticket RBs IMO. The KC offense and the competition (or lack thereof) in front of him are both big positives.
Through my eyes his game speed did not match his timed speed.wutHe runs like he is trying to escape a burning building. Good but not elite speed, doesn’t look very shifty, and for a good size back he doesn’t seem to run over people. Not sure what to make of him really. Has some speed and gets to the hole quickly but not sure how far that will take him.
40 TIME: 4.37 SECONDS
That seems pretty elite.
Call me crazy, but imma go with his combine instrument-measured speed over your eyes.Through my eyes his game speed did not match his timed speed.wutHe runs like he is trying to escape a burning building. Good but not elite speed, doesn’t look very shifty, and for a good size back he doesn’t seem to run over people. Not sure what to make of him really. Has some speed and gets to the hole quickly but not sure how far that will take him.
40 TIME: 4.37 SECONDS
That seems pretty elite.
On the Twitter a beat writer left him off of the 1st “unofficial depth chart”. For whatever that’s worth.These forums are on? The forums are on!
Interested to see what this guy can do. As somebody noted, he's likely a performance decision or an injury away, but the lead backs aren't models of efficiency nor health.
For 2022 I’m betting it’s his ST skills, which may not be enough. But after that? Waldman was very high on him - maybe he can carve out a role in 2023
MMQB's Albert Breer said seventh-round rookie RB Isiah Pacheco has been "lighting up" Chiefs camp and compared him to Kareem Hunt.
Coach Andy Reid has even come away impressed with Pacheco, saying "he's got a little juice, got some good speed." Pacheco was a four-year contributor at Rutgers and blazed a 4.37 forty at the Combine at 5'11/215. However, his explosive measurements were lacking and he didn't make many big plays in college. Kansas City's backfield is sort of wide open, with Clyde Edwards-Helaire constantly injured and lacking big-play production, Ronald Jones on a one-year deal after not getting playing time in Tampa Bay, and Jerick McKinnon back after an impressive playoff stretch. It wouldn't be crazy to see Pacheco carve out an offensive role. The preseason will be huge for him.
SOURCE: Albert Breer on Twitter
Aug 3, 2022, 6:31 PM ET
NFL Network's James Palmer reports that seventh-round RB Isiah Pacheco "had some run with the 1s again" in Sunday's training camp practice.
The Pacheco Express has picked up steam this week with Clyde Edwards-Helaire always getting the first rep, but Pacheco more or less splitting time with Ronald Jones. He's planted himself firmly on the fantasy football radar this week. Preseason work will be revealing, and it shouldn't surprise anyone if he has a role in this backfield right away.
SOURCE: James Palmer on Twitter
Aug 7, 2022, 4:27 PM ET
To each their own, seems like everyone had a fast time this year. Maybe just a fast class. If he is a 4.3 guy it will show quickly on kick returns.Call me crazy, but imma go with his combine instrument-measured speed over your eyes.Through my eyes his game speed did not match his timed speed.wutHe runs like he is trying to escape a burning building. Good but not elite speed, doesn’t look very shifty, and for a good size back he doesn’t seem to run over people. Not sure what to make of him really. Has some speed and gets to the hole quickly but not sure how far that will take him.
40 TIME: 4.37 SECONDS
That seems pretty elite.
The regular season can't get here soon enough.
Thompson was tiny. Pacheco has his speed at 215 pounds - that’s a pretty significant difference between the two.Darwin Thompson 2.0?
Pretty tough not to take a dart throw in various formats with this guy right now. But on the other hand, maybe Thompson is a good comp.
Somebody else made an interesting point that if Pacheco really is worth this hype and makes the team, etc., it would actually probably be good news for CEH.
This is where I'm at.Darwin Thompson 2.0?
Pretty tough not to take a dart throw in various formats with this guy right now. But on the other hand, maybe Thompson is a good comp.
Somebody else made an interesting point that if Pacheco really is worth this hype and makes the team, etc., it would actually probably be good news for CEH.
He’s much more interesting in dynasty, and as a last round pick at that.This is where I'm at.Darwin Thompson 2.0?
Pretty tough not to take a dart throw in various formats with this guy right now. But on the other hand, maybe Thompson is a good comp.
Somebody else made an interesting point that if Pacheco really is worth this hype and makes the team, etc., it would actually probably be good news for CEH.
I got caught up in the Darwin hype a few years back. Burnt my 1st round rookie pick. Spent some 8th/9th round redraft picks on him. Obviously didn't work out very well.
I'm of course interested in a running back that could be had late who has an opportunity for touches in the KC backfield. But, it'll be a lot less of an investment than the Thompson situation.
There is always a chance. My statement is directed towards more of where we will be at come opening week and not just the Pacheco stories, but there is a lot of fluff out there that won't have much bearing on reality come week 1. Of course in dynasty you have to look down the road and Pacheco could very well be in play at some point.The regular season can't get here soon enough.
Why is it hard to believe this guy has a chance?
He’s a player and currently behind a bunch of under-achievers.
There is always a chance. My statement is directed towards more of where we will be at come opening week and not just the Pacheco stories, but there is a lot of fluff out there that won't have much bearing on reality come week 1. Of course in dynasty you have to look down the road and Pacheco could very well be in play at some point.The regular season can't get here soon enough.
Why is it hard to believe this guy has a chance?
He’s a player and currently behind a bunch of under-achievers.
Matt McMullen @KCChiefs_Matt
"The thing that's guaranteed is that he's going to run hard. Will he have to learn the certain schemes, how they work against defenses and to at times be patient? He'll learn that. But, he's going to run hard and he can catch the football."
- Coach Reid on Isiah Pacheco
Matt Miller @nfldraftscout
Can confirm some of the training camp hype on Isiah Pacheco. He definitely passes the eyeball test in person while showing impressive burst and power. There’s a lot of juice to his game.