Judge Smails
Footballguy
Only concern I had was he got blown up in pass protection. Just overmatched.
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RB J.K. Dobbins, BAL (1 Viewer)
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Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
It was odd. I posted in the game thread sometime either deep into the first half or early in the second that I hadn't noticed him on the field yet.
All I can think of is:
1. Maybe he WAS in earlier and missed a block or something, so Harbaugh sent him to his room for a while.
2. Something happened during the week that Harbaugh didn't like.
3. Harbaugh/Roman were playing games with Houston and wanted him as a fresh hammer at the end of the game. Which is kind of what he ended up being. The game was pretty much over anyway, but that 40 yard run put the nail in.
I've posted here and in other threads that I think he's the Ravens' most talented back. I just don't know how to make sense of it for FF week-to-week.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
People should know Dobbins is on the same team as Ingram and that will affect 2020. It's 2021 you should be looking for Dobbins to shine on a consistent basis. I look for Ingram to be on another team this time next year.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
I must have missed that. If that's the case, see my #1 above. Harbaugh won't have that.
Lopsided game scripts are pretty much the perfect time to see what the rook's got.
It's a RBBC mess, don't expect it to change much this year without an injury.
massraider
Footballguy
Might just be as simple as trusting the vet.
This is a top contender, they don't NEED Dobbins to take over, and make rookie mistakes on the field. Shoot, if I was Harbaugh, he wouldn't get many snaps where I needed him to pass block.
This is a top contender, they don't NEED Dobbins to take over, and make rookie mistakes on the field. Shoot, if I was Harbaugh, he wouldn't get many snaps where I needed him to pass block.
chad in Indy
Footballguy
I didn't see the game. Was his 40+ yd run a product of the defense being stacked to stop the run (just over two minutes, everyone knows its a run to kill the clock) and no second level of defense in play?
barackdhouse
Footballguy
He didn't know where to line up almost every time he was in there. Jackson had to babysit him pre snap.
I only saw one blitz where he got rocked but they brought the whole house on it.
As for usage at the end, they were rotating between the 3 backs on every single play. I don't think it had anything to do with bringing JK as a close out hammer. It was just one new RB in on each play. Sucks.
I only saw one blitz where he got rocked but they brought the whole house on it.
As for usage at the end, they were rotating between the 3 backs on every single play. I don't think it had anything to do with bringing JK as a close out hammer. It was just one new RB in on each play. Sucks.
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
I agree. They brought the house and he didn't have a chance so don't want to overplay that.
The Man With No Name
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Dobbins would have scored if the turf monster didn't almost cause him to slip on that run.
Banger
Footballguy
It was only a matter of time...kid is a perfect fit and will be a star in Baltimore. I drafted him in my keeper league which has a number of Maryland folks in it...I dealt him after the draft for CeeDee Lamb and Kelce so I got great value but always like having that stud RB in the stable. He's gonna be a good one.
Lehigh98
Footballguy
Nothing has changed yet, this is an opinion piece by Casserly of what he thinks should happen. That said, crazy how you got Lamb and Kelce for him, even in a homer league!
Banger
Footballguy
The_Man
Footballguy
He's joining two well-established veterans in the backfield of the team that shattered the NFL's 40-year-old rushing record last year. Did you think they were just going to put him at the top of the depth chart in Week 1? The kid has had two very good games and his workload is only going to grow. I think the Ravens have actually been keeping things pretty vanilla leading up to what, for them, is a huge measuring stick game vs. KC.
Dobbins was great catching the ball in training camp and I wouldn't be surprised to see them throw to him a lot. They did come out very briefly with Ingram and Dobbins in the backfield together for one series vs Houston and Dobbins was left uncovered for what would have literally been a long walk-in TD reception if Lamar had seen him. Link below if you want to see it - I doubt they'll miss another chance like this
https://twitter.com/i/status/1309136496147005441
Dobbins was great catching the ball in training camp and I wouldn't be surprised to see them throw to him a lot. They did come out very briefly with Ingram and Dobbins in the backfield together for one series vs Houston and Dobbins was left uncovered for what would have literally been a long walk-in TD reception if Lamar had seen him. Link below if you want to see it - I doubt they'll miss another chance like this
https://twitter.com/i/status/1309136496147005441
The Frankman
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
Still a stash and hold in my redraft. I may go down in flames but he will be on my roster. I think at some point Baltimore mixes it up. He’s being trusted on 3rd down and isn’t making mistakes. Ingram looks very mediocre and they are one dimensional with Edwards. If they want to be more unpredictable and explosive I think it’s Dobbins
Casting Couch
Footballguy
criminally under used.
No, he hasn’t. He barely has one, and that was skewed by an unsustainable TD rate
Through 3 weeks he has 10 carries for 76 yards and 5 catches for 51 yards.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Biabreakable
Footballguy
FWIW it did seem like Gus Edwards gave the team a spark in what was one of the more effective drives for the Ravens last night. I don't think he is a better player than Ingram or Dobbins but he runs hard.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Nothing. Another big swing and miss by me. Piling up this season.
Dobbins was always a long play.
Go look at Nick Chubb's gamelog from 2018. 16 touches in the first 6 weeks.
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Traded Ingram in redraft. Holding Dobbins hoping for a late season change of heart by the coaching staff.
I mentioned this to my league mates in chat. "I'm getting Chubb vibes."
Chubb was breaking off long runs around the same rate Dobbins is right now.
I think it's just a matter of the coaches finally making the switch officially and giving him more run.
dcgangstas
Footballguy
Sometimes it's just infuriating that coaches can't see the proverbial forest for the trees.
Dobbins' explosiveness is just undeniable. I own Ingram also, and the current three-man rotation makes them unstartable. Ingram has been a good soldier and team guy in the locker room, but his role in the offense should be diminished.
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
Agree that these guys are unstartable. Like I said earlier, with all of the RB injuries I was able to package Ingram to a RB needy team just to get him off my team and clear a roster space.
Uruk-Hai
Footballguy
If Dobbins' blocking doesn't improve, he's gonna struggle to get consistent snaps. Whether any of us think that bad blocking should keep Baltimore's most talented RB on the bench or not doesn't matter - Harbaugh believes it should. Dobbins had several whiffs in the Houston game, which had me fearing for Jackson's well-being (& where I think Lamar hurt his knee, which I think the Ravens have been underplaying). Mark Ingram is a marvelous blocker and Gus Edwards is good, too.
Dobbins' 34 yard run last week was a thing of beauty and I certainly want him playing more but, if he can't block, his time is going to be spotty.
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
No buzz about this guy with Ingram not practicing all week? I know it's a tough matchup, he can't block, and he's still got Edwards to contend with....
Still, I'm kind of tempted to start him with my RB2 being the Carson/Hyde situation, and my other options less than inspiring. Maybe one of those spots where a little more opportunity lets him show off his talent?
Still, I'm kind of tempted to start him with my RB2 being the Carson/Hyde situation, and my other options less than inspiring. Maybe one of those spots where a little more opportunity lets him show off his talent?
Twenty-Four Eighty-Four
Footballguy
I might throw him in one of my flext spots over Lat Murray for the fun of it. Would love to be a part of one of those stats where he goes off and they say he was only started in about 14 percent of leagues.
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Even though they are facing the stout Steeler D, Edwards should see the bulk of the carries with Dobbins in on obvious passing downs. Edwards should get a plunge and 50 total yards.
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I've been waiting for Dobbins to be dropped in a keep-3 redraft auction league and I think this is the time. I know that runs contrary to the prevailing opinion, but I'm betting that two things will happen in the next two weeks:
1) Edwards continues to get more opportunity than Dobbins
2) Pittsburgh and Indy are two tough units. Neither Edwards nor Dobbins will do enough to separate themselves from the pack and Ingram will return, rendering everyone valueless again.
This may be a bit of a hot take, but I'll stand by it.
1) Edwards continues to get more opportunity than Dobbins
2) Pittsburgh and Indy are two tough units. Neither Edwards nor Dobbins will do enough to separate themselves from the pack and Ingram will return, rendering everyone valueless again.
This may be a bit of a hot take, but I'll stand by it.
Biabreakable
Footballguy
Thats not a hot take.
Thats more of a trampling on the hopes and dreams of Dobbins owners everywhere kind of take.
The talk about Alex Collins going to the Seahawks has reminded me of how difficult Harbaugh RBBC can be.
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
I own both Dobbins and Edwards in a non PPR. May be desperate to choose one in the flex
Mark Football
Footballguy
I will be disappointed to not see Dobbins heavily involved after a bye with Ingram being out.
Due to Dobbins’ poor pass blocking, expect to see Edwards get the majority of the touches. I’m between Edwards and Hasty in a non-PPR and will go Gus
Houston turmOiler
Footballguy
He11 with it. Rolling him out there. Held him all season, got Carson and a messed up Seattle situation and crappy David Montgomery (who could quickly lose bell-cow status if Lamar Miller is active and gives the offense a boost) as my options. Playing a guy who is a huge Ohio State fan to boot.
Saw a tweet by 105.7 The Fan that he was the first Raven out on the field today. I'm hoping he's hungry for his shot today. Maybe it's dumb. Hope it works out
Saw a tweet by 105.7 The Fan that he was the first Raven out on the field today. I'm hoping he's hungry for his shot today. Maybe it's dumb. Hope it works out
The Frankman
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ATB
Footballguy
Dobbins if Ingram doesn't come back 100% or is usurped. But probably Bell since there's less competition there.
ATB
Footballguy
Dobbins is the better talent right now, no doubt, but talent has to meet opportunity to find success. Volume is king. If Ingram comes back healthy soon, there's too much risk of Ravens returning to a full blown RBBC. But with Bell, there's a path to the starting job and to valuable goal line opportunities in one of the best offenses in the league.
It's more about the situation than the player.
