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I agree I think his workload will be about the same.
Yeah I hear you I would like to add Dobbins on teams that dont already have him.
IMHO, most of Ingram's work will go to Dobbins, and some of Edwards' work will go to Hill. With Ingram out of the mix, I don't see how we don't see some Hill this year...he just won't occupy anywhere near the amount of touches as Ingram or Edwards would in a healthy Dobbins/Ingram/Edwards RBBC...but he'll get a share, on both running and passing downs. I own all 3 here and there, and I like them all as Players, a lot. Great RB room.
My memory is failing me in my old age. I'd have to go back and see how I got to 160 attempts for Edwards, but that feels about right. I may have been estimating on the high side when I wrote that, but with Gus just re-upping for two years, I'd guess Baltimore wouldn't hesitate to add a carry or two a game to his workload. He produces.
It's hard to get excited about. Last year, and the entire RB group combined to give you about 22.5 PPR fantasy points. was a little higher the previous year but still taking a two year total it's averaged out to about 23 a game. Three RB's beat that by themselves last year.
Nick Chubb begs to differ.
The way I try to tier rookies for rankings is that a player I have in tier one is a player I think can become a top 12 player at their position for fantasy within their first 3 seasons in the league.
This 100% for me. I drafted him 3rd overall in our rookie draft after CEH and Taylor, and I traded up to do it. I didn't draft him for 2020 (alhough I thought I might get some use out of him later in the year.) I believe a top 12 season is within reach this year. If not, it won't be by much.
Last year part of it was play calling (RBs weren't out in many routes), part of it was that the interior OL was awful (no time and the RBs having to stay in to block), and part of it was Jackson getting skittish (or wanting to play hero ball) because of the other two parts.
It limits his receiving upside for sure, just like any other running QB. He won't get those quick dump offs most times like he would if he played with a guy like Brees. They'll have to be designed pass plays to Dobbins for him to get a good amount of receptions, IMO.
My opinion, if Gurley is signed it's for a camp body/seasonal tutor role. No fears he'll stick around for week one.Gurley visiting with Ravens.
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He looked good last night. Dominated early carries. Pretty mediocre offense & looked like stacked boxes but he was breaking tackles & looked shifty.
Yeah the “first team” offense last night without a couple startling lineman, without the top 4-5 wrs and no Lamar was pretty bland. I didn’t get to watch but I imagine the defense wasn’t too concerned about the passing game.
I think that’s accurate. With the threat of the QB option it loosens up a lot of the lanes.
The bolded is what makes me nervous about Dobbins in PPR. The Ravens RB targets with Jackson starting at QB
It’s true. Screens aren’t a big part of the Ravens game because all eyes are already in the backfield and defenses are close to the LOS because of Lamar. And when it breaks down he’s usually taking off rather than dumping it off. Definitely caps Dobbins upside as a receiver. Good news is he is likely to be crazy efficient on the ground. Every Rb, save Ingram last year at 31 years old and banged up in a part time role, has cleared 5.0 ypc with Lamar. JK was over 6 last year! He’s a lock to clear 5 this year and could be much higher. Should find the end zone a bunch of times as well.
Yeah, I mean 30 is a pretty modest total, and I agree that may not even Be attainable.
It's been a steady drumbeat all offseason that Roman is putting an increased emphasis on Lamar using the RB's in the passing game. I fully expect 68 targets to RB to be a reasonable #. Gus isn't anywhere near the receiver Ingram is, and they seem hell-bent on limiting Justice Hill. That spells a whole lot of catches for my boy JKD. Tack on the Bateman injury. He was drafted specifically to be a catalyst to open the offense. Sammy Watkins doesnt scare anyone, and Marq Brown is a terrible fit with a qb like Lamar. The pass offense is going to run almost entirely through Andrews/Dobbins. 20-25% increase in PAtt to RB, 42 rec is my projected floor for Dobbins, and I'm sticking to it.
Really? I have. It has been mentioned a lot. Now I don't know that means a lot. The number of targets can easily go up but I'd be surprised if they went up dramatically, in a way we talk about a couple months from now. I expect a good bump though and I don't think 30 is out of the question.
First, I seriously take yours and nittany's comments very seriously. Always do. But...
Oh I don't disagree but I think there is room for a modest bump. I don't think 30 is a seismic league winning change. The Ravens do need to mix it up pretty badly, though, and I think they know it and will make a concerted effort to get the backs more targets. But I think having much better WR play has also been part of their plan here but that isn't looking very good right now. Dumpoffs are one area where no, Jackson is going to keep it and run, and we know this. But designed passes can be a whole other area where if the coaches want it to happen it happens. Again I don't really expect much.
Yeah, also the problem is that if I am right about the offense and the target bump for backs, it doesn't necessarily mean that all of it goes to Dobbins and not Gus. Even at the high end of a projected bump it may not be worth much.
I agree. Plus if they want to keep LJax vertical for longer in his career, they really need to get him to dump it off more than he has. He can’t just take off running every time - that’s gonna take an unacceptable toll at some point.
