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RB Jacory Croskey-Merritt, WAS (4 Viewers)

Exactly! He’s either being drafted as Clinton Portis or Roy Helu and everything in between!
"Now there's a name I haven't heard in a long time..."
I figured Evan Royster would be too much of a deep cut, even in this forum lol
:lmao::lmao:

Actually, I'm a Penn State grad, so not too deep. Plus, lots of write-ups this summer that both of our RBs, Singleton and Allen, are around 1,000 rushing yards from his career record at PSU.
Good trivia with all the great/very good RBs that PSU has had that he holds the career record right now.
 
But that's about all I expect out of cheap RBs anyway. Sure wish he'd been on my radar during rookie drafts in May.

Just for future reference, but this makes me go “dammit.” I thought starting this in March and following it up consistently was like wearing fluorescent orange during deer hunting season. I try and reciprocate all I get from the SP by hyping certain guys.

I’m about 3-5 so far. I’ve started threads on Pacheco, Tiyon Davis-Price, Bill, Bhayshul Tuten, and Xavier Jones. (Kendre Miller is also clearly one of “my guys,” but he went too early and had a thread.) When I see a guy with either great lateral movement or breakaway speed I get really interested and I’ll start a thread. It might come right before or during the combine. Generally I limit it to very late-round guys with a story or very good reason why they’re buried or going late. They’ve gotta have great highlights (I do not have access to “tape,” and I won’t pretend like I do.)

I wish I’d done it more often. People would have been clued in quicker. Not because this worked out, but I’m usually spending draft picks or FAAB on anybody I start a thread on. My skin is almost always in the game, and I take my team pretty darn seriously.
I was in on Bill very early, and when I came here to post about it, you'd already started this thread. You sir, were the ground floor on this space elevator.
 
Checking in…
1. He is a sell high
2. Or you draft C. Rodriguez cause he has the same chance as JCM to be the main back, and nobody is drafting him
3. Or you stash JCM. If he emerges, it’s 2nd half of 2025, but you have the bye weeks including brutal week 6 + 8. You’re probably dropping JCM anyway so might as well do option 1.

All these long winded posts about the why. Sharks should be focusing on the value.
IMO Rodriguez is still virtually undraftable like he was before the BRob trade....all he did was possibly move up the depth chart but the "talent" is still the same as before the Brob trade....acting like C Rod is now some value seems on tilt to me....I really don't think anybody "realistically" thinks he has the same chance to start as JCM and ADP indicates that as does the fact that JCM sat and Crod played last game...
People get weird cognitive dissonance when it comes to these things. 7th round RB hits are very rare. So, they invent obstacles like CRod. Sure, maybe he's looking better than ever but the team has literally cut him TWICE before and stashed him on the practice squad. What they think of him is established and while that can change with time and his performance improving, it's not going to change drastically or quickly. The obstacle here was BRob, and he's gone. This is Bill's RB room. It's just tough for people to believe right now. And that draft capital thing will still impact where Bill gets drafted next year, even if he puts up a top 12 season plenty of people will still say he's over valued in the 3rd. Everyone is susceptible to anchoring IMO. Humans aren't good at re-doing their reads on situations.
 
I don't see the love. Eckler on passing downs & Rodriguez on short yardage.
Maybe. Eckler is 30 and he missed 5 games last year due to 2 concussions. I thought he should have retired in the off-season. That stuff is scary at his age but he did prove to still be a good pass catching back. As for Rodriguez, I think nothing is guaranteed with him. The Commanders cut him twice last year and no team claimed him. So I am honestly not worried about him, that doesn't happen to good players.
If Eckler gets hurt, Jeremy McNichols will take that role in the offense, so I wouldn't count on Bill being a true every-down RB, but he's going to get PLENTY of work, and I expect him to take over goalline duties by week 4, if not sooner.
 
But that's about all I expect out of cheap RBs anyway. Sure wish he'd been on my radar during rookie drafts in May.

Just for future reference, but this makes me go “dammit.” I thought starting this in March and following it up consistently was like wearing fluorescent orange during deer hunting season. I try and reciprocate all I get from the SP by hyping certain guys.

I’m about 3-5 so far. I’ve started threads on Pacheco, Tiyon Davis-Price, Bill, Bhayshul Tuten, and Xavier Jones. (Kendre Miller is also clearly one of “my guys,” but he went too early and had a thread.) When I see a guy with either great lateral movement or breakaway speed I get really interested and I’ll start a thread. It might come right before or during the combine. Generally I limit it to very late-round guys with a story or very good reason why they’re buried or going late. They’ve gotta have great highlights (I do not have access to “tape,” and I won’t pretend like I do.)

I wish I’d done it more often. People would have been clued in quicker. Not because this worked out, but I’m usually spending draft picks or FAAB on anybody I start a thread on. My skin is almost always in the game, and I take my team pretty darn seriously.
I was in on Bill very early, and when I came here to post about it, you'd already started this thread. You sir, were the ground floor on this space elevator.

LOL. I wish I could give credit where I saw it. I am vaguely remembering going through every single guy in FBG’s rookie guide and being intrigued by him in the 30s (?), which is where you find the small-school guys and guys with warts and then I saw him deep somewhere else and I just got really curious because of the comment sections and fan comments in places. I look for that stuff. It’s usually a total dead end and you wind up with 4.75 40s or guys weighing 175 lbs. but nothing about this guy disqualified him but his ineligibility. And if I’m putting in sixteen-twenty hours of work into this guy, I’m realizing the pros are too busy and might be missing him.

I really just wanted to make a comment on Joe B.’s new publication and maybe find a guy for my own draft and so I waited for the Big 12 Pro Day because both he and Devin Neal were supposed to test again after Neal’s abysmal combine, so I waited and had to spend another freaking four hours to find the results and—voila!—we have Bill!

Enjoy!
 
No matter how this shakes down, I don't see any Washington RB being startable in most fantasy lineups. Even BRob last year, with the most usage on the team, was outside top 20 in PPG. We're all trying to parse who might be a bye week prayer for us.
Agree. It seems like a situation to stay away from. Just too many options, especially with Daniels and Deebo taking carries, without any of the RBs being a true standout. Out of all of them, though, JCM is the one with the best chance to take control and be a star...but I certainly wouldn't bet on it quite yet.
see that’s the thing…in FF “I wouldn’t bet on quite yet” doesn’t fly…you can’t wait and see…he isn’t going to be available on the WW…
100%. It's like saying I wouldn't bet on this poker hand before the flop - until I see the turn and the river. At some point you have to actually *place* the bet. But if you're shy and shy and then that river reveals gin... it may be too late to put a bunch of chips in. No action left.

There is no wait and see. We throw the ball to where we think the receiver is going to be. If we don't think they can catch it we throw elsewhere. But we must throw. Throwing elsewhere *is* placing a bet.

In other words to say one wouldn't bet on it just yet is to say one would bet against it right now. However, this analogy breaks down in the idea that there is minimal, if any, risk in picking a different player (or folding the hand preflop). Totally fine to wait for what you think is a better bet. With antes and blinds it isn't unlike the way a snake draft unfolds and how you *must* make bets at some point.
Just for clarification, I was using "bet on" in contrast to "bet against", rather than in contrast to "not bet at all". I think you both make good points that passing on a player with pick X is placing a bet on their possible availability later. The way I'm thinking about it, "wait and see" only ceases to exist when someone else selects that player. As long as the player is still available, we are all waiting and seeing what other owners are going to do.

In round one, all owners are placing their bet that JCM will be available in round 2. According to this thread, that's likely true through about round 5 and then you'll have some people start to bet against his availability the next time they pick and have to determine if they value him enough to pick him or risk losing out on him. This theoretically happens with every pick and every player.

I always liked picking in the 11/2 slot. If I'm picking 1.11 and 2.02, it's not all that difficult to try and determine what the next guy will do at the turn. I can make my 1.11 pick based on who I think will still be available at 2.02.
however you want to spin it.....when it comes to players that YOU KNOW aren't going to be on the WW...... you have to draw your line in the sand/plant your flag at some point....you either think he "is the one with the best chance to take control and be a star" .....like you said ...or you don't.....you either push your chips in or you don't ...you don't get to wait to place your bet...
 
Took Chris Rod Jr with my final pick last night. Looking forward to watching this backfield week 1

We’ve already seen Rodriguez dominate nfl defenses in regular season games so I don’t know why he’s been dismissed so easily
 
We’ve already seen Rodriguez dominate nfl defenses in regular season games so I don’t know why he’s been dismissed so easily
I must need to look at film again. He's just over 400 yards rushing TOTAL in 2 seasons.
He got almost 1/4 of that in 1 game after they cut him & brought him back.

That doesn’t mean he won’t be a capable short yardage back, which is what I’ve read they’re going to do with him.
 
Just spun JCM for a 2026 1st that was 1.07 this year in a 14 team standard non PPRE league with only 5 weekly starters per week at RB/WR/TE combined. Had to take the profit
That’s incredible, congratulations. Will be trying to sell high before the season myself, doubt I will get anything near that.
 
Just spun JCM for a 2026 1st that was 1.07 this year in a 14 team standard non PPRE league with only 5 weekly starters per week at RB/WR/TE combined. Had to take the profit
That’s incredible, congratulations. Will be trying to sell high before the season myself, doubt I will get anything near that.
Would you trade him for Rashee Rice?

I'm light at WR and loaded at RB in a keeper league (Rice not eligible to keep unfortunately).
 
Just spun JCM for a 2026 1st that was 1.07 this year in a 14 team standard non PPRE league with only 5 weekly starters per week at RB/WR/TE combined. Had to take the profit
That’s incredible, congratulations. Will be trying to sell high before the season myself, doubt I will get anything near that.
Would you trade him for Rashee Rice?

I'm light at WR and loaded at RB in a keeper league (Rice not eligible to keep unfortunately).
Rice owner here, and haaaaale no.
 
Would you trade him for Rashee Rice?

I'm light at WR and loaded at RB in a keeper league (Rice not eligible to keep unfortunately).
If you are ACQUIRING Rice... OH YEAH!! Do it.
If you are selling Rice for Bill ... OH NO MR. BILL!
I would be selling BILL and acquiring Rice.
If I could land Rice for Bill I would fall into a peaceful sleep of content. Even in a redraft league I would be joyous.
 
And the deal is done!
Nice! I just proposed the same trade. 🤞
Risk/reward on both sides. Depending on roster construction, it makes good sense for each party.
I’ll never use JCM except for maybe one bye week because of my RB depth. I need a WR1 later in the season. His RB are horrible. Makes sense for both teams. We’ll see!
Same reasons I made the deal. Good luck, hope it happens!
 
I think the hype is well warranted. Where else can you grab an explosive rookie RB, who is in an elite offense, playing next to a Top 5-6 QB? .. and more importantly, your only competition are two average plodding backs? .. Not to mention, the team traded away the starter (Brian Robinson) because of the confidence they have in you .. It’s a win-win all the way around. This guy would’ve gone in the first 2-3 rounds of the draft had he been allowed to play last year.
 
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Would you trade him for Rashee Rice?

I'm light at WR and loaded at RB in a keeper league (Rice not eligible to keep unfortunately).
If you are ACQUIRING Rice... OH YEAH!! Do it.
If you are selling Rice for Bill ... OH NO MR. BILL!
I would be selling BILL and acquiring Rice.
No, no you wouldn’t.
So you wouldn't trade Bill for Rice?
I would, of course. I just didn’t think it was possible. Like I said above, I’m a Rice owner, and would not accept that.

I guess I could understand if it’s redraft.
 
For another reference point, JCM owner in one of my dynasty leagues is asking for a 2026 first for him since three days ago. No bites on that one. Someone offered a 2nd in chat and they went private on it yesterday, but still no notification on a trade yet.

I would not be trading a 2026 first for JCM, and I'm down on 2026. I think I would give a 2026 2nd rounder though if JCM was actually improving my chances to win this season. If I wasn't competing immediately though, I think it would still be a no.
 
I don't know who Cecil Lamney's source is but I am pretty sure I heard him on a podcast this morning say that someone from inside the Washington organization told him they view JCM as the 2nd best player on the whole team.
 
I don't know who Cecil Lamney's source is but I am pretty sure I heard him on a podcast this morning say that someone from inside the Washington organization told him they view JCM as the 2nd best player on the whole team.
Is there a gas leak….in the whole world?
That might be the most logical eplanation for the events of the last 10 years or so. And yeah if I didn't know better, I would think Cecil had some kind of JCM stock that he was trying pump and dump.
 
I don't know who Cecil Lamney's source is but I am pretty sure I heard him on a podcast this morning say that someone from inside the Washington organization told him they view JCM as the 2nd best player on the whole team.
Excuse me but I can't stand up right now. I've got a big Nick Chubb if you know what i mean....
@Ilov80s heard right. Kinda one of those WTF moments. Lammey didn't reveal his source, but Washington implying Daniels is the only player better than JCM is quite the statement.

They've got to be seeing some strong nuances to his game if that's the case. I looked at Bill a little closer just for fun and he does seem to have outstanding vision and running instincts. We could be seeing someone really special emerge...or not, lol.

Fun ride, though.
 
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If you believe in Bill and like free money, he's +225 to rush for 50 yards or more against the Giants on FanDuel. I used a $100 deposit free bet to parlay that with 4+ receptions for Egbuka, 4+ for Coker, and 3+ for Golden, for +1036 odds.

Honestly, that feels like stealing IMO, all 4 very likely to happen IMO.
 
I don't know who Cecil Lamney's source is but I am pretty sure I heard him on a podcast this morning say that someone from inside the Washington organization told him they view JCM as the 2nd best player on the whole team.
Excuse me but I can't stand up right now. I've got a big Nick Chubb if you know what i mean....
@Ilov80s heard right. Kinda one of those WTF moments. Lammey didn't reveal his source, but Washington implying Daniels is the only player better than JCM is quite the statement.

They've got to be seeing some strong nuances to his game if that's the case. I looked at Bill a little closer just for fun and he does seem to have outstanding vision and running instincts. We could be seeing someone really special emerge...or not, lol.

Fun ride, though.
On the one hand, that's clearly a ridiculous overstatement. Butbutbut ... I've been puzzling over why they were in such a rush to get B-Rob out of the building, and one of the most plausible explanations is that they're really high on JCM
 

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