RB James Robinson, NE (1 Viewer)

[4th&inches]

Like others, this news is making me rethink my keeper situation. Without making it too much "my team specific"; someone who I previously had ranked ahead of Robinson was Swift...and by a decent clip. However, ETN's injury and the recent news the Lions coaches are "concerned about Swift's availability for week 1"... I'm personally bumping Robinson ahead of Swift. 

Not really sure this is any sort of radical thinking, but as others mentioned previously, I'd put JRob in a similar tier as Montgomery, Swift, Carson, Dobbins, Jacobs, & Sanders. Of this group, I think only Jacobs & possibly Montgomery would be ranked ahead of Robinson for me. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Of this group, I think only Jacobs & possibly Montgomery would be ranked ahead of Robinson for me. 

 I’d easily take Carson ahead of Robinson, and it’s not close. Caliber of player, Caliber of team around him. Seahawks offense >>> Jags offense. 

 

[4th&inches]

 I’d easily take Carson ahead of Robinson, and it’s not close. Caliber of player, Caliber of team around him. Seahawks offense >>> Jags offense. 

While I agree with you in a vacuum, taking into account Carson's injury history combined with Seattle's seeming propensity to pass it more has me a little down on Carson this year. Again, that's just my gut feelings. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

While I agree with you in a vacuum, taking into account Carson's injury history combined with Seattle's seeming propensity to pass it more has me a little down on Carson this year. Again, that's just my gut feelings. 

Carson is their receiving back though, so especially in PPR I’d still be on Carson. 

Non-PPR it’s a coin flip. 

 

[Jamesinaz]

While I agree with you in a vacuum, taking into account Carson's injury history combined with Seattle's seeming propensity to pass it more has me a little down on Carson this year. Again, that's just my gut feelings. 

The injury history is the only reason I have reservations about Carson.  And his style of running isn't one with self preservation in mind.  When healthy he is an RB1.  But it's almost not IF he gets hurt it is WHEN and how bad.

 

[Tanner9919]

you're all over thinking this. Robinson is bonafide, he's a suitor ( oh brother where art thou reference). EASILY a top10 RB now, maybe higher. if you think Carlos damn Hyde is going to be a factor, at 30, a guy who looks like he's running in mud, is going to beat out Jrob you're just being silly - you're a hater of Jrob, thats all. don't be a hater, the train is still in the station, the whistle's blowing though, she's ready to pull out of town - you better get on while you still can.

Robinson was discounted this time last year..don't do that again this year. accept that you were wrong. come to terms with it. a new day has dawned. Jrob will win your league. jrob will have better number this season than last season. BETTER coaching staff hell bent on running the football. enough of the 'meyer isn't tied to him he didn't draft him' nonsense. are you implying meyer is tied to a washed up never has been Carlos Hyde who has played on 31 NFL teams since he entered the league?! cmon now. I feel like I'm trying to convince the one person on the jury who's still holding out, that the guy killed the girl with the knife that has his fingerprints on it, in her blood, with his blood mixed in. 

Robinson is now a top 10 RB.every guy above him has a 'yeah...but' too, except maybe CMC. zeke - is he in decline. Jones - can he do it 2 years in a row without injury?? can dalvin stay healthy? you get the idea. 

300 carries ( yeah that's just 60 more carries than last season which is just 3.5 more carries per game over 17 game schedule), 1400 yards(4.7 per carry), 12 TD.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Been live mocking like crazy with 2 days to go before my local live draft. 

Robinson went from a 8-11 round pick to a pretty consistent late 3rd-early 4th round pick. 

IMO, that is an overreaction. And one I hope someone in my league makes on Saturday. 

ETA: in deference to @Cobbler1 I have adjusted the range that Robinson was going in mock drafts, because this is life and death stuff importance-wise   

 

[battlestar]

I’ve got a verbal offer of his Allen Robinson for my James Robinson.

I am thin at RB with Cook, Swift, Robinson, James  White, Mattison, Kylin Hill and a bit better at WR, though we start three and I am rolling with: Tyreek, AJ Brown and Marvin Jones (with Mooney and Rondale coming and Quez and Crowder).

Sell high?  I feel like it’s the right move plus a rebuilder has Ekeler that I think I can deal for.  Just feels like too good of an opportunity to upgrade from a guy who may still be a risky pick next year to an elite receiver with a deep ball specialist coming.

What say you shark poolians? 

 

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I’ve got a verbal offer of his Allen Robinson for my James Robinson.

I am thin at RB with Cook, Swift, Robinson, James  White, Mattison, Kylin Hill and a bit better at WR, though we start three and I am rolling with: Tyreek, AJ Brown and Marvin Jones (with Mooney and Rondale coming and Quez and Crowder).

Sell high?  I feel like it’s the right move plus a rebuilder has Ekeler that I think I can deal for.  Just feels like too good of an opportunity to upgrade from a guy who may still be a risky pick next year to an elite receiver with a deep ball specialist coming.

What say you shark poolians? 

Lawd I might have Etienne'd myself jumping to accept that deal, and I rode Robinson last year. 

 

[travdogg]

Been live mocking like crazy with 2 days to go before my local live draft. 

Robinson went from a 10-11 round pick to a pretty consistent late 3rd-early 4th round pick. 

IMO, that is an overreaction. And one I hope someone in my league makes on Saturday. 

He should never have been going that late. He was more like a 7th rounder in my eyes. I think 3/4 turn is pretty fair. He's David Montgomery with maybe a little lower touch floor.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

HSG’s live mock reports are worse sources than Trump tweets.

My friend drafted him in the 11th in a live draft last Thursday. 

 

[Cobbler1]

My friend drafted him in the 11th in a live draft last Thursday. 

I doubt that actually happened unless it’s a 6 team league or only requires 0 or 1 starting rbs. Anyways that’s not the point. I’m deriding the mock draft anecdotes not because of the “mock” aspect but because of the “anecdote” aspect. Your mocks and your one friends alleged draft aren’t even drops in the bucket when it comes to evaluating where players are being drafted. There are free sources that pull from thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of mock and real drafts that are far more meaningful than anyone’s personal anecdotes. I hope you aren’t basing any of your draft strategy off what you are seeing in mocks. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I doubt that actually happened unless it’s a 6 team league or only requires 0 or 1 starting rbs. Anyways that’s not the point. I’m deriding the mock draft anecdotes not because of the “mock” aspect but because of the “anecdote” aspect. Your mocks and your one friends alleged draft aren’t even drops in the bucket when it comes to evaluating where players are being drafted. There are free sources that pull from thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of mock and real drafts that are far more meaningful than anyone’s personal anecdotes. I hope you aren’t basing any of your draft strategy off what you are seeing in mocks. 

I have a photo of the draft board. It’s a 12 team league.  
 

ETA - he was a late 8th. My bad.  The important part is he is now going in the 4th. 

believe it or not, people were much lower on Robinson prior to the Etienne injury.

as for the mock aspect, I’m mocking on cbs & fantasy pros. It is based on their rankings that people are drafting him in the 4th over and over and over again. He’s  4th rounder now. It is what it is.

go shake your fist at the clouds, old man. 

 

[Cobbler1]

I have a photo of the draft board. It’s a 12 team league.  

believe it or not, people were much lower on Robinson prior to the Etienne injury.

as for the mock aspect, I’m mocking on cbs & fantasy pros. It is based on their rankings that people are drafting him in the 4th over and over and over again. He’s  4th rounder now. It is what it is.

go shake your fist at the clouds, old man. 

Pm me your photo.

You just said you saw him mocked a bunch in the 10/11th rounds pre ETN injury. Now you’re saying on FP and CBS due to their rankings he was going in the 4th over and over? That’s contradictory. His ADP on CBS appears to have been a mid 7 prior to the injury. So again, the ADPs from places like FP, CBS, Sleeper, FFCalc, I’m sure there’s a ton of other places are way more meaningful anyone’s anecdotes.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Pm me your photo.

You just said you saw him mocked a bunch in the 10/11th rounds pre ETN injury. Now you’re saying on FP and CBS due to their rankings he was going in the 4th over and over? That’s contradictory. His ADP on CBS appears to have been a mid 7 prior to the injury. So again, the ADPs from places like FP, CBS, Sleeper, FFCalc, I’m sure there’s a ton of other places are way more meaningful anyone’s anecdotes.

I’m saying he was going 9-10 before the ETN injury.

I am also saying I mocked for 5 hours yesterday & a couple the day before and he’s been consistently going in the 4th & even a couple times in the 3rd.

there is nothing remotely contradictory about that. He is going on the 4th in every mock I do. He hasn’t made the 5th once in ~20 mocks I did yesterday. 

Why are  you struggling so much with this? 
 

ETA: I looked at the draft board. He went late 8th. My bad on that. Still not a 4th. 

 

[Cobbler1]

I’m saying he was going 9-10 before the ETN injury.

I am also saying I mocked for 5 hours yesterday & a couple the day before and he’s been consistently going in the 4th & even a couple times in the 3rd.

there is nothing remotely contradictory about that. He is going on the 4th in every mock I do. He hasn’t made the 5th once in ~20 mocks I did yesterday. 

Why are  you struggling so much with this? 

We were discussing the validity of you saying he was a 10/11 round pick in your mocks pre Etienne injury so naturally l thought you were talking about pre injury mocks. You’re weren’t so you’re right that part isn’t contradictory.  But my point remains that his was never 10/11. It was 7th even on CBS and much higher on the other sites I’ve seen. And again this is across thousands of times more mocks than you’ve done.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

We were discussing the validity of you saying he was a 10/11 round pick in your mocks pre Etienne injury so naturally l thought you were talking about pre injury mocks. You’re weren’t so you’re right that part isn’t contradictory.  But my point remains that his was never 10/11. It was 7th even on CBS and much higher on the other sites I’ve seen. And again this is across thousands of times more mocks than you’ve done.

it’s not even worthy of the time it takes to type this because Etienne is injured now, and i’m just some dude on the Internet.

Id seen Robinson go anywhere from 10/11 to 7-8-9 pre-Etienne injury. 

The only relevant thing here is where he’s going now, post ETN injury, 

everyone here has access to ADP, and my mock draft experience isn’t going to shape anyone’s hearts and minds.  

But if it did, the only take-away that matters is that he’s now a 4th round pick everywhere, including the dozens of mocks I’ve participated in. Which, as it turns out, is a fine barometer of where people will now need to take Robinson.

glad we could get on the same page.

 

[DocHolliday]

Easily a fourth round pick and I wouldn’t be against taking him in the third round.  

 

[Cobbler1]

it’s not even worthy of the time it takes to type this because Etienne is injured now, and i’m just some dude on the Internet.

Id seen Robinson go anywhere from 10/11 to 7-8-9 pre-Etienne injury. 

The only relevant thing here is where he’s going now, post ETN injury, 

everyone here has access to ADP, and my mock draft experience isn’t going to shape anyone’s hearts and minds.  

But if it did, the only take-away that matters is that he’s now a 4th round pick everywhere, including the dozens of mocks I’ve participated in. Which, as it turns out, is a fine barometer of where people will now need to take Robinson.

glad we could get on the same page.

I wasn’t the only who questioned your 10/11 assertion which you’re now wisely backing away from. You posted it 12 hours ago but it’s not relevant now that it’s being questioned, interesting. Anyways we’re probably done here. 

I agree with travdogg and Doc. Seems a good pick to me round 3/4 with Urban Meyer’s weirdness being the only worrying part for me.
 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I wasn’t the only who questioned your 10/11 assertion which you’re now wisely backing away from. You posted it 12 hours ago but it’s not relevant now that it’s being questioned, interesting. Anyways we’re probably done here. 

it’s just not that important to me since ETN is hurt & the more important thing to me is where Robinson is being drafted. 

i agree with travdogg and Doc. Seems a good pick to me round 3/4 with Urban Meyer’s weirdness being the only worrying part for me.

It’s enough for me to avoid him in the 4th. There are way too many top flight WRs I like there more. The Jags look like a potential dumpster fire to me.

 

[Cobbler1]

it’s just not that important to me since ETN is hurt & the more important thing to me is where Robinson is being drafted. 

It’s enough for me to avoid him in the 4th. There are way too many top flight WRs I like there more. The Jags look like a potential dumpster fire to me.

I get it. The counter is they were a dumpster fire last year and he was a stud. The counter to that is Urban Meyer might be a moron at pro football. I totally get staying away and see far safer picks at wr there too. As usual once you’re past the top few rbs you have to accept some uncertainty at the position.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I get it. The counter is they were a dumpster fire last year and he was a stud. The counter to that is Urban Meyer might be a moron at pro football. I totally get staying away and see far safer picks at wr there too. As usual once you’re past the top few rbs you have to accept some uncertainty at the position.

I agree - and especially if one includes a Kelce, Kittle or Waller in their build. Robinson isn't a bad fallback plan for a RB2 in the 4th if there's a need. 

I'd still probably lean Gaskin - and I might be incorrect to do so, because Robinson did put up great numbers on a bad team last year. But I worry about Hyde's usage, as well as the overall competence of the Jags offense. They could legitimately be worse this year, both for Meyer & for T-Law, who's looked pretty meh so far. 

Robinson is a risk/reward guy for sure. I see the reward, I just hope to personally avoid that kind of risk in the 4th. 

 

[Cobbler1]

I agree - and especially if one includes a Kelce, Kittle or Waller in their build. Robinson isn't a bad fallback plan for a RB2 in the 4th if there's a need. 

I'd still probably lean Gaskin - and I might be incorrect to do so, because Robinson did put up great numbers on a bad team last year. But I worry about Hyde's usage, as well as the overall competence of the Jags offense. They could legitimately be worse this year, both for Meyer & for T-Law, who's looked pretty meh so far. 

Robinson is a risk/reward guy for sure. I see the reward, I just hope to personally avoid that kind of risk in the 4th. 

Going TE early is a route I’m planning to go in a lot of my redrafts and Robinson’s presence as a keeper in a couple of my keeper leagues likely has me going that route in those too. Figuring out the Robinson/Carson/Monty/Jacobs tier discussed upthread will be huge. 

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Figuring out the Robinson/Carson/Monty/Jacobs tier discussed upthread will be huge. 

As I often am, I am probably in the minority ranking those dudes. 

1. Carson - I'm a Carson guy. He's the most underrated RB in FF. He sprained his foot last year, sure. Injuries happen. But he's a dynamic RB who is a great receiver, plays ini a good offense & has a coach who always wants to run more & doesn't take him out at the stripe. 

2. Jacobs. I see last year's numbers as his floor. Drake doesn't scare me in the slightest, as I don't see Jacobs losing touches, and he was never much of a receiving theat

3. Robinson - I would probably take him over Monty. Monty's butter soft schedule, combined with Robinson having done more with less talent around him pushes me to taking the risk on Robinson if my build determines it. 

4. Monty - I'm unconvinced this dude is a great RB, but he is in a great situation. I would draft him at ADP, but I wouldn't feel good about it. And he has a very competent backup RB who might get more work even without a Monty injury than Monty owners would like. 

 

[Cobbler1]

As I often am, I am probably in the minority ranking those dudes. 

1. Carson - I'm a Carson guy. He's the most underrated RB in FF. He sprained his foot last year, sure. Injuries happen. But he's a dynamic RB who is a great receiver, plays ini a good offense & has a coach who always wants to run more & doesn't take him out at the stripe. 

2. Jacobs. I see last year's numbers as his floor. Drake doesn't scare me in the slightest, as I don't see Jacobs losing touches, and he was never much of a receiving theat

3. Robinson - I would probably take him over Monty. Monty's butter soft schedule, combined with Robinson having done more with less talent around him pushes me to taking the risk on Robinson if my build determines it. 

4. Monty - I'm unconvinced this dude is a great RB, but he is in a great situation. I would draft him at ADP, but I wouldn't feel good about it. And he has a very competent backup RB who might get more work even without a Monty injury than Monty owners would like. 

I’m not far from this. I’d have Carson and Robinson as the top 2. Slight edge to Carson. Drake does bother me about Jacobs. A better receiving back than Booker may be utilized more taking snaps from Jacobs. And the revamped OL bothers me. I share the concerns about Monty. I’d put him 3rd and Jacobs 4th with Robinson closet to Carson than to Jacobs/Monty.

 

[BobbyLayne]

1. Carson - I'm a Carson guy. He's the most underrated RB in FF. He sprained his foot last year, sure. Injuries happen. But he's a dynamic RB who is a great receiver, plays ini a good offense & has a coach who always wants to run more & doesn't take him out at the stripe

so freaking tough

The midfoot sprain cost him 4 games year. I love watching him play. He’ll take on tacklers plow right through them. I saw him get hurt last yea, announced not coming back - then he comes back in the game and makes a couple huge plays.

Search for his off-season workouts with Jadeveon Clowney on Twitter. Man you’d swear Clowney’s basketball player Carson is so ripped he makes him look tiny.

 

[Cobbler1]

so freaking tough

The midfoot sprain cost him 4 games year. I love watching him play. He’ll take on tacklers plow right through them. I saw him get hurt last yea, announced not coming back - then he comes back in the game and makes a couple huge plays.

Search for his off-season workouts with Jadeveon Clowney on Twitter. Man you’d swear Clowney’s basketball player Carson is so ripped he makes him look tiny.

I’ve seen his workouts. They’re insane, can confirm. 

 

[habsfan]

I'm trying to decide if the Jags implode this season and if so, do I bet on Robinson as a way to "short" the Jags offence? Maybe Shenault is the play there?

 

[Blackbear]

I'm trying to decide if the Jags implode this season and if so, do I bet on Robinson as a way to "short" the Jags offence? Maybe Shenault is the play there?

Buy on Robinson. 

 

[Navin Johnson]

Hyde is no league winner but the notion that he will have zero affect on Robinson is extremely short sighted.  No way Robinson gets 90% of the RB touches again.

 

[Navin Johnson]

Pm me your photo.

You just said you saw him mocked a bunch in the 10/11th rounds pre ETN injury. Now you’re saying on FP and CBS due to their rankings he was going in the 4th over and over? That’s contradictory. His ADP on CBS appears to have been a mid 7 prior to the injury. So again, the ADPs from places like FP, CBS, Sleeper, FFCalc, I’m sure there’s a ton of other places are way more meaningful anyone’s anecdotes.

He went in the 9th in my first draft a week ago.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Hyde is no league winner but the notion that he will have zero affect on Robinson is extremely short sighted.  No way Robinson gets 90% of the RB touches again.

Agreed. 

 

[travdogg]

As I often am, I am probably in the minority ranking those dudes. 

1. Carson - I'm a Carson guy. He's the most underrated RB in FF. He sprained his foot last year, sure. Injuries happen. But he's a dynamic RB who is a great receiver, plays ini a good offense & has a coach who always wants to run more & doesn't take him out at the stripe. 

2. Jacobs. I see last year's numbers as his floor. Drake doesn't scare me in the slightest, as I don't see Jacobs losing touches, and he was never much of a receiving theat

3. Robinson - I would probably take him over Monty. Monty's butter soft schedule, combined with Robinson having done more with less talent around him pushes me to taking the risk on Robinson if my build determines it. 

4. Monty - I'm unconvinced this dude is a great RB, but he is in a great situation. I would draft him at ADP, but I wouldn't feel good about it. And he has a very competent backup RB who might get more work even without a Monty injury than Monty owners would like. 

Thanks for the rankings. Always like seeing other opinions. I see it as:

1. Montgomery, I think Williams/Cohen is a lot less of a threat to his touches than Hyde or especially Drake are to Robinson/Jacobs. Probably about equal to Penny/Dallas. Montgomery is arguably the centerpiece of that offense, and is being overly punished, I think, for a slow start to last season. 

2. Robinson, he's neck and neck with Montgomery, but I trust him a little less due to a new coaching staff, and in my opinion, greater touch competition. Not that I think Hyde is good, but I think Urban Meyer thinks that.

3. Jacobs, I think he's in a pretty similar boat to last year. He's not getting enough receiving work, and needs TDs to overcome it. If he puts up another 12 TD season, he'll be well worth where he's going, but the Raiders are overhauling their OL, and the defense is still pretty rough. Its tough to see a ceiling beyond RB2 numbers.

4. Carson, I think they are going to scale back his touches a bit, they know he breaks down a lot more than other RBs(likely due to style, more than anything else) and they are putting in a new offense. I've usually been higher on Carson than his ADP, but I'm on the other side this year. I think he's breaking down a bit, and would rather avoid him if possible. If he stays healthy, he'll make me look foolish, but he's never stayed healthy going back to college.

Of course, I'd take Miles Sanders over all these guys, so its likely not a decision I'll have to make.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Of course, I'd take Miles Sanders over all these guys, so its likely not a decision I'll have to make.

and I will never draft Sanders. 
 

my god, you’re like Bizarro world me on these 5.  

 

[Joe Bryant]

• FBGs also on top of it, have him at RB21 in full PPR
  

Thanks. We try to have stuff like this updated nearly in real time. For the Footballguys Consensus Projections, he's even a little higher at RB18 in full PPR https://www.footballguys.com/projections/preseason?projforwhat=rb&projector=996&profile=p

And we published this right after the news broke from our Sigmund Bloom. Reacting to Michel & Etienne Running Back Developments

Travis Etienne's season-ending foot injury skyrockets James Robinson back into the third round, perhaps even the late second. Robinson should be going off the board around the same time as fellow second-year backs Clyde Edwards-Helaire and J.K. Dobbins. He was strong in an offense that was among the league's worst last year, so the offensive woes in Jacksonville to date and seeming uncertainty about the quarterback (Trevor Lawrence is going to start, we're not sure what Urban Meyer is doing) shouldn't get you off of Robinson. Carlos Hyde becomes the clear injury upside backup, and Meyer knows his game well. Laviska Shenault Jr could get some run in the Percy Harvin/Curtis Samuel "H-back" role that Meyer loved to use in college, making him a more attractive pick at ADP. Robinson has been running the ones all of camp, so perhaps this doesn't change his value as much as we think it does, and it just closes the door on him as an extreme value, while those that were high on Etienne would say that it bailed out early drafters who overpaid for Robinson.

 

[Payne]

Agreed. 

But RB's don't require 90% to produce RB1 numbers either. 

 

[Dr. Octopus]

He went in the 9th in my first draft a week ago.

He went in the 6th in my draft last Saturday which was before the ETN injury - looks like a steal now.

 

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Pm me your photo.

Photoshop exists. 

He could have gone in the 18th if anyone wanted him to. 

 

[Bald Bull]

I’ve got a verbal offer of his Allen Robinson for my James Robinson.

I am thin at RB with Cook, Swift, Robinson, James  White, Mattison, Kylin Hill and a bit better at WR, though we start three and I am rolling with: Tyreek, AJ Brown and Marvin Jones (with Mooney and Rondale coming and Quez and Crowder).

Sell high?  I feel like it’s the right move plus a rebuilder has Ekeler that I think I can deal for.  Just feels like too good of an opportunity to upgrade from a guy who may still be a risky pick next year to an elite receiver with a deep ball specialist coming.

What say you shark poolians? 

Ppr? Why are you waiting to smash accept?

 

[battlestar]

Ppr? Why are you waiting to smash accept?

I basically did, it was early yesterday morning and I thought maybe I was dreaming lol.  Made the deal about 5 minutes after the post.

Also was able to deal for Ekeler right after this so yesterday was a great day for that dynasty team.

 

[Bald Bull]

I basically did, it was early yesterday morning and I thought maybe I was dreaming lol.  Made the deal about 5 minutes after the post.

Also was able to deal for Ekeler right after this so yesterday was a great day for that dynasty team.

Oh, this was dynasty? I missed that point, still a good deal.

 

[Cobbler1]

Photoshop exists. 

He could have gone in the 18th if anyone wanted him to. 

We worked it out over PM. All good. The numbers guy in me gets triggered by weird things. Shoulda heard the discussion last night with the wife when she wasn’t comprehending the idea of a sunk cost correctly!

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

But RB's don't require 90% to produce RB1 numbers either. 

I didn’t say they did. 

 

[King of the Jungle]

Urban Meyer worries me with anyone on the Jags. Robinson is a good back but Urban is someone who thinks he is the smartest guy in the room. The fact that they took an RB in the first round still blows my mind and echos concern.

 

[BobbyLayne]

While I agree with you in a vacuum, taking into account



Carson

's injury history combined with Seattle's seeming propensity to pass it more has me a little down on


Carson

this year. Again, that's just my gut feelings. 

The injury history is the only reason I have reservations about Carson

.  And his style of running isn't one with self preservation in mind.  When healthy he is an RB1.  But it's almost not IF he gets hurt it is WHEN and how bad.

he definitely gets his pound of flesh from tacklers, he's vicious

but....before last year's 4 game injury (& I think it's safe to presume a mid-foot sprain did not come from violent running)...he played 29/32 G in his b2b 1K seasons

so 41/48 overall, let's compare that (actually typing this before I look it up bc IDK and I'm interested)

• CMC 35 G
  
• Kamara 44 G
  
• Barkley 31 G
  
• Cook 39 G
  
• Zeke 46 G
  
• A Jones 42 G
  
• Gordon 39 G
  
• Henry 47 G
  
• Mixon 36 G
  
• Eckler 40 G
  
• Connor 36 G
  

4 better (more G), 8 with less

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

• CMC 35 G
  
• Kamara 44 G
  
• Barkley 31 G
  
• Cook 39 G
  
• Zeke 46 G
  
• A Jones 42 G
  
• Gordon 39 G
  
• Henry 47 G
  
• Mixon 36 G
  
• Eckler 40 G
  
• Connor 36 G
  

4 better (more G), 8 with less

Dude is just an alien. It’s insane. 

I would have to take him top 5, workload and all. I shied away from him last season due to workload concerns. He just keeps on keepin on. 

 

[Neil Beaufort Zod]

Obviously they didn't like Robinson enough to draft at another position. So why would they all of a sudden love him now? 

This is a little like Akers and Henderson. Akers gets hurt so many assume Henderson is "the guy." But he wasn't "the guy" in the team's eyes at the beginning of the offseason. Now they trade for Michel. I don't think they see Henderson as the workhorse. Maybe, but I don't see it. 

Robinson wasn't seen as good enough to leave the position alone on draft day. I think they'll bring in more guys after final cuts. I don't think they want to roll with Robinson. Maybe, but I don't see it. 

 

 

[ConnSKINS26]

Obviously they didn't like Robinson enough to draft at another position. So why would they all of a sudden love him now? 

This is a little like Akers and Henderson. Akers gets hurt so many assume Henderson is "the guy." But he wasn't "the guy" in the team's eyes at the beginning of the offseason. Now they trade for Michel. I don't think they see Henderson as the workhorse. Maybe, but I don't see it. 

Robinson wasn't seen as good enough to leave the position alone on draft day. I think they'll bring in more guys after final cuts. I don't think they want to roll with Robinson. Maybe, but I don't see it. 

 

The Jags situation with Meyer is a little different than that imo. It’s well known that Meyer wanted Kadarius Toney BADLY, and Etienne was as close as he could get to filling that role in his offense, that’s why Etienne was getting so much work at WR this offseason. I don’t really think it’s all about the RB position or Robinson’s skillset, Meyer got tunnel vision when his guy was gone and took the next best option (in his mind) to add that explosive RAC element to his offense. It says SOMETHING about Robinson of course but not exactly what you’re implying, in my opinion. 

 

[Unwrittenlaw]

Obviously they didn't like Robinson enough to draft at another position. So why would they all of a sudden love him now? 

This is a little like Akers and Henderson. Akers gets hurt so many assume Henderson is "the guy." But he wasn't "the guy" in the team's eyes at the beginning of the offseason. Now they trade for Michel. I don't think they see Henderson as the workhorse. Maybe, but I don't see it. 

Robinson wasn't seen as good enough to leave the position alone on draft day. I think they'll bring in more guys after final cuts. I don't think they want to roll with Robinson. Maybe, but I don't see it. 

 

Doesn't mean much at all...

Take for example the Falcons when they had Jamal Anderson. In 1996 in his breakout year he had a 1000 yd season 4.5 ypc. The year after, in 1997, the Falcons drafted Byron Hanspard in the 2nd rd 41st pick.  Same scenario the Jags are in right now. Hanspard suffered a severe knee injury during training camp in 1998 and missed the entire season. He returned in 1999 but was unable to return to his previous level of play. 

Jamal Anderson went on to have 3 more 1000+ yd seasons. Hanspard wasn't a factor.

 

[The Frankman]

James Robinson had five carries for 25 yards and caught 3-of-6 targets for 29 yards in Week 1 against the Texans.

Robinson ended up with fewer carries than Carlos Hyde, with most of Hyde's touches coming on the final drive. He played 62% of snaps despite the blowout loss. The Jaguars never established the run after going down early, leading to a pass heavy game script. Robinson was effective with his touches and had a pair of 10-plus yard plays called back on holding. The second-year UDFA is a gameflow-dependent RB2 for a Week 2 matchup with the Broncos.