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RB Le'Veon Bell, FA (2 Viewers)

FlapJacks said:
Assuming he comes back in week 3, how do folks feel about a rookie RB with no preseason play, coming off a big injury scare coming into the mix?
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I own him and I won't start him until he plays at least 1 game, it would have to be a monster game, for me to start him the next week, so I would probably wait until he plays 2 or 3 games. I also am lucky to have him as flex player and I have a couple of receivers that I can plug in his spot instead. I would be interested in hearing if people will start him with confidence once it is announced he will play and get the bulk of the carries.

 
3C said:
Concept Coop said:
This place can be funny (and I'm not excluding myself).

Bell is a top 3 rookie, gets dinged, doesn't look great on 4 preseason carries, sprains his foot...and the sky is falling.

Eddie Lacy is fat, injury prone, threatened by Franklin, then looks good in one game...and he's the top rookie RB.

All from a few pre-season carries.
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And Bell's knee wasn't 100% in that game either.
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Well, everyone knows Lacy was never fat, injury-prone, and should have known Franklin was no more a threat to Lacy than Cousins was to RG3.

 
Clifford said:
3C said:
Concept Coop said:
This place can be funny (and I'm not excluding myself).

Bell is a top 3 rookie, gets dinged, doesn't look great on 4 preseason carries, sprains his foot...and the sky is falling.

Eddie Lacy is fat, injury prone, threatened by Franklin, then looks good in one game...and he's the top rookie RB.

All from a few pre-season carries.
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And Bell's knee wasn't 100% in that game either.
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Well, everyone knows Lacy was never fat, injury-prone, and should have known Franklin was no more a threat to Lacy than Cousins was to RG3.
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I think some NFL teams might disagree about the injury prone part. Don't kill me just some stuff I read.

The Pittsburgh Steelers were in the market for a running back during the draft, but passed on top-rated rusher Eddie Lacy due to concerns over a toe injury,according to Ed Bouchette of the Pittsburgh Post-Gazette. The Steelers opted instead for Michigan State's Le'Veon Bell with their second-round pick.

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Lacy has dealt with both hamstring and toe injuries, but the Steelers were scared off because his toe was reportedly fused. Lacy eventually came off the board at the end of the second round, going to the Green Bay Packers with the 29th pick in the round.

Despite being known traditionally as a run-first team, Pittsburgh has struggled to run the ball of late. They haven't had a 1,000-yard rusher since Rashard Mendenhall in 2010, and he has struggled to return to form following a torn ACL in 2011. Jonathan Dwyer led the team with only 623 yards and two touchdowns in 2012.

Lacy finally became the feature back for the Crimson Tide in 2012 after two years as a complementary rusher, and he made the most of it, rushing for 1,322 yards and 17 touchdowns on 204 carries. Bell, meanwhile, shouldered the heaviest workload of any running back in college football, rushing for 1,793 yards and 12 touchdowns on a staggering 382 carries.

http://www.sbnation.com/nfl/2013/4/29/4282286/nfl-draft-2013-steelers-scared-eddie-lacy
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Well, well, well.... Has fast things change for Bell. According to RotoWorld, "Coach Mike Tomlin suggested that Le'Veon Bell (foot) has been ruled out of Week 1 because of missed practice time, not his injury."

 
Wadsworth said:
Well, well, well.... Has fast things change for Bell. According to RotoWorld, "Coach Mike Tomlin suggested that Le'Veon Bell (foot) has been ruled out of Week 1 because of missed practice time, not his injury."
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I read this as Tomlin saying if Bell had practiced more, he could play. To me that is coach-speak, nothing more. The reason he didn't place (hence why he isn't playing) is because his foot is injured.

 
usually you cant get excited about a player until he returns to limited practice on a wednesday or thursday. MY guess is bell maybe is ready for week 3, but i wouldn't start him until we know his usage.

 
Bayhawks said:
Wadsworth said:
Well, well, well.... Has fast things change for Bell. According to RotoWorld, "Coach Mike Tomlin suggested that Le'Veon Bell (foot) has been ruled out of Week 1 because of missed practice time, not his injury."
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I read this as Tomlin saying if Bell had practiced more, he could play. To me that is coach-speak, nothing more. The reason he didn't place (hence why he isn't playing) is because his foot is injured.
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:doh:

 
BigSteelThrill said:
Bayhawks said:
Wadsworth said:
Well, well, well.... Has fast things change for Bell. According to RotoWorld, "Coach Mike Tomlin suggested that Le'Veon Bell (foot) has been ruled out of Week 1 because of missed practice time, not his injury."
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I read this as Tomlin saying if Bell had practiced more, he could play. To me that is coach-speak, nothing more. The reason he didn't place (hence why he isn't playing) is because his foot is injured.
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:doh:
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It also says he's not going to be able to Ahmad Bradshaw it and just play Sundays while he nurses himself back -- which makes sense considering how green he is.

purely speculative prediction:

W2 - doubtful

W3- Active but in a reserve role

Ws4 - 5 RBBC member

W6 on - Primary back

It wouldn't surprise me, either, if he re-aggravated the injury or got dinged again either....

 
Bayhawks said:
Wadsworth said:
Well, well, well.... Has fast things change for Bell. According to RotoWorld, "Coach Mike Tomlin suggested that Le'Veon Bell (foot) has been ruled out of Week 1 because of missed practice time, not his injury."
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I read this as Tomlin saying if Bell had practiced more, he could play. To me that is coach-speak, nothing more. The reason he didn't place (hence why he isn't playing) is because his foot is injured.
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I agree with coach speak. Some detail in the Post-Gazette this morning:

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• Isaac Redman will start, but the other two healthy halfbacks, LaRod Stephens-Howling and Felix Jones, also will get their chances.

"We haven't detailed the rotation or the nature of the rotation at this point. But, obviously, we're going to have some guys in uniform that we believe are capable of helping us that have a unique skill set."

Look for Stephens-Howling to be the primary back on third downs and Felix Jones to work in more with Redman.

"We're continuing to get to know Felix," Tomlin said. "We like his natural run instincts."

• Tomlin agreed with rookie halfback Le'Veon Bell that he might return by the second game as he overcomes a foot injury.
"He probably can be characterized as out this week, not necessarily from a health standpoint, but young guys like him have to practice in order to be able to participate. At the very best, he would be a partial participant this week."
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from Lolley...

Le'Veon Bell must return to practice on a full-time basis before he plays due to his youth. Tomlin doesn't like to play rookies who don't get a full week of practice in because they need more preparation than veterans.

 
Franknbeans said:
from Lolley...

Le'Veon Bell must return to practice on a full-time basis before he plays due to his youth. Tomlin doesn't like to play rookies who don't get a full week of practice in because they need more preparation than veterans.
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Does that mean partial practice == partial playing time?

 
Nice to hear the optimistic news of the return of Le'Veon Bell. If you are like most who drafted him as an RB3/flex, you can afford to wait on him till the bye weeks hit. Honestly, I hope the Steelers hold him back till after his bye week to get him fully healthy as those foot sprains can lead to other nagging injuries when a player decided to test it too soon. Bell owners should have other players to plug and play in their flex, and stash him for later when they really need him.

 
Glad to hear that his recovery is going very well. Foot injuries are always scary for running backs so I really hope that he doesn't rush back. He was a great buy-low in drafts since the injury since he has legit rb2 potential when he's back.

 
I'm still shocked we went undrafted in my 14 team league where RBs are scooped up quickly. Many guys, including myself, were steering clear of him due to the foot injury that sounded pretty bad at first...we drafted before week 3 of preseason. I grabbed him off waivers as soon as I heard he was out of a walking boot.

 
And we still don't know what the foot injury exactly is, right? However this new timetable suggests Lisfranc.

So Tomlin was simply lying when he said he didn't play due to missed practices and not due to an injury?

 
Clifford said:
And we still don't know what the foot injury exactly is, right? However this new timetable suggests Lisfranc.

So Tomlin was simply lying when he said he didn't play due to missed practices and not due to an injury?
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That quote from Tomlin made no sense, he missed practice because of an injury, and he missed the game cause he missed practice, yet somehow its not due to his injury?

 
What a roller coaster ride this is. It's no big deal. No wait to season ending and career threatening. Just kidding it will only be like 2 months. No wait it's even better, he might be back after week 2. Haha got ya, it's probably a lis franc after all and he's going to miss at least half the year.

At this point I'm just waiting for the news that it is going to end up requiring surgery after all and end his season. It feels like it's just a matter of time.

 
CBSSports.com
(12:32 pm ET)" Steelers rookie running back Le'Veon Bell could miss at least another month with a Lisfranc fracture, a source has told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review."

LT was on Sirius XM fantasy today and suggested that if thats the injury around week 10 would be a more likely return week. How long did MJD struggle with his Lisfranc fracture? I had MJD on my bench almost the entire season until I released him the last week last year. I may be cutting Bell.

 
Yuck. Unless you're in a really deep league, he seems droppable to me. Especially with as bad as that OL has been anyway.

It continues to surprise me that Dwyer doesn't get more of a chance. His stats always seem to be decent, or at least better than the rest of the options. Is he terrible in pass protection or something? What's the deal there?

 
This may be the most lied about injury in football. We had a lot of discussion earlier in the thread while trying to decipher the media reports and team sound bytes. The end result was that no one really knew anything, but the most recent news bits right before the season were very positive on his early return. Lies, never trust a team when it comes to an injury.

 
Clifford said:
Given the reliability of info on this thus far, I'm not panicking.
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I have defnitely noticed that a LOT of info this year is just..............wrong.

It's like every source wants to be "the first to report........" without a care in the world if it is actually correct. I mean, if you guess 10 times you will be right once right?

 
Kenny Powers said:
iamkoza said:
only because my league has IR slots.... i'm just going to hold on to him...
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He cant get put on designated to return IR because Matt Spaeth already is
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Appreciate this post. I was wondering why they wouldn't just IR him.. which I assumed meant they expected him back. At this point, he's a rookie and the team likely recognizes their deficiencies this year, so why burn a half season, or even 4-6 games of experience for the guy while giving the team a chance to evaluate how good he really is at the NFL level.

That said, now I don't know what to do with him, but I'll hold out if I can.

 
Koya said:
Kenny Powers said:
iamkoza said:
only because my league has IR slots.... i'm just going to hold on to him...
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He cant get put on designated to return IR because Matt Spaeth already is
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Appreciate this post. I was wondering why they wouldn't just IR him.. which I assumed meant they expected him back. At this point, he's a rookie and the team likely recognizes their deficiencies this year, so why burn a half season, or even 4-6 games of experience for the guy while giving the team a chance to evaluate how good he really is at the NFL level.

That said, now I don't know what to do with him, but I'll hold out if I can.
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My take on the Bell situation is pretty simple. The guy they cut (Dwyer) is now taking snaps with #1s. That seems to suggest that Redman and Felix are, in some sense, either worse (Redman) or still not ready (Felix) to be the lead back - or not as ready as a guy they cut that no one else even sniffed at. Bell is clearly more talented than any of the 3 (it would be difficult to be much worse than a guy they cut).

That said, Bell won't be taking over until he gets a least a week's+ worth of practice under his belt, imho. If you need for playoffs or late in the season to cover very late byes or injury, keep him. Otherwise, this backfield is baren.

 
wdcrob said:
Jones could see his first touches Monday night against the Bengals after working extensively with the Steelers' first unit Thursday, the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review reports.
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What a mess.
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Ugh. My money is still on Dwyer emerging eventually even though they cut him in favor of the other two. From the Steelers fan's comments I've seen, a lot of them liked Dwyer over Redman when it came to purely running the ball and I agree with them.

 
I've got Felix in a bunch of leagues, but I'm not expecting much. I've paired Dwyer with him in a couple, but I'm not expecting much. Walter Payton could time travel from 1977, but I still wouldn't expect much.

 
lazyike said:
CBSSports.com

(12:32 pm ET)" Steelers rookie running back Le'Veon Bell could miss at least another month with a Lisfranc fracture, a source has told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review."

LT was on Sirius XM fantasy today and suggested that if thats the injury around week 10 would be a more likely return week. How long did MJD struggle with his Lisfranc fracture? I had MJD on my bench almost the entire season until I released him the last week last year. I may be cutting Bell.
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So wait:


Le'Veon Bell (foot) was upgraded to "full" in Thursday's practice after getting in a limited session on Wednesday.
It's eye-brow raising, but Bell himself admitted on Wednesday that he's extremely unlikely to suit up for Sunday night's game against the Bears. The Steelers are also no strangers to playing injury report games with their running backs. Perhaps Bell will return in Week 4, but he remains off the Week 3 radar.
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I guess the first report is why he got in my league. I actually tried to trade for him and that must have prompted the owner to see the report and cut him.

So on 9/11 he's a month away and then Wednesday 9/18 he's practicing and today 9/19 he's full????

Tell you this much - the Steelers need him to play and be good.
 
i cut bait for the time being. hes going to be in and out of the lineup if he comes back this early. He was killing my IR spot.

 
SaintsInDome2006 said:
lazyike said:
CBSSports.com

(12:32 pm ET)" Steelers rookie running back Le'Veon Bell could miss at least another month with a Lisfranc fracture, a source has told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review."

LT was on Sirius XM fantasy today and suggested that if thats the injury around week 10 would be a more likely return week. How long did MJD struggle with his Lisfranc fracture? I had MJD on my bench almost the entire season until I released him the last week last year. I may be cutting Bell.
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So wait:


Le'Veon Bell (foot) was upgraded to "full" in Thursday's practice after getting in a limited session on Wednesday.
It's eye-brow raising, but Bell himself admitted on Wednesday that he's extremely unlikely to suit up for Sunday night's game against the Bears. The Steelers are also no strangers to playing injury report games with their running backs. Perhaps Bell will return in Week 4, but he remains off the Week 3 radar.
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I guess the first report is why he got in my league. I actually tried to trade for him and that must have prompted the owner to see the report and cut him.

So on 9/11 he's a month away and then Wednesday 9/18 he's practicing and today 9/19 he's full????

Tell you this much - the Steelers need him to play and be good.
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There are too many people trying to "break" stories anymore. Bell's injury has been reported as a lis franc, then not a lis franc, than a mid-foot sprain, then a lis franc again. Unless there's a name to the source, some kind of confirmation, or it comes directly from the player/coach, these "reports" should be taken with a grain of salt.

 
iamkoza said:
usually you cant get excited about a player until he returns to limited practice on a wednesday or thursday. MY guess is bell maybe is ready for week 3, but i wouldn't start him until we know his usage.
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Well, he was limited yesterday, and full today, so.... ?

The bye is Week 5, so maybe week 4? And if not then very possibly week 6?

 
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SaintsInDome2006 said:
lazyike said:
CBSSports.com

(12:32 pm ET)" Steelers rookie running back Le'Veon Bell could miss at least another month with a Lisfranc fracture, a source has told the Pittsburgh Tribune-Review."

LT was on Sirius XM fantasy today and suggested that if thats the injury around week 10 would be a more likely return week. How long did MJD struggle with his Lisfranc fracture? I had MJD on my bench almost the entire season until I released him the last week last year. I may be cutting Bell.
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So wait:


Le'Veon Bell (foot) was upgraded to "full" in Thursday's practice after getting in a limited session on Wednesday.
It's eye-brow raising, but Bell himself admitted on Wednesday that he's extremely unlikely to suit up for Sunday night's game against the Bears. The Steelers are also no strangers to playing injury report games with their running backs. Perhaps Bell will return in Week 4, but he remains off the Week 3 radar.
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I guess the first report is why he got in my league. I actually tried to trade for him and that must have prompted the owner to see the report and cut him.

So on 9/11 he's a month away and then Wednesday 9/18 he's practicing and today 9/19 he's full????

Tell you this much - the Steelers need him to play and be good.
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Count me as a victim who foolishly bought into reports of him being out until 2nd/3rd week of October with some sort of Lisc Franc sprain or strain. I cut him just prior to start of week 2 with plans to scoop him back up on week 3 blind bid auction, Damn if another team didn't win him for $21 to my $15 on late Tuesday night. Who would have thunk it. lol.

 
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