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RB Match ups week 9 (1 Viewer)

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It sure seems like rushing is up across the board right now. Very few elite rushing defenses this year. There are certainly a couple you would like to avoid but for the most part a lot of teams can be run on. Let’s jump to week 9.

Atlanta 210/112 at Detroit 79/94

The Falcons are running and passing on everybody right now. If Vick can keep up his pace in the passing game, defenses are going to cry trying to figure out what they need to focus on and shut down. The Falcons are putting up over 400 yards on offense a week the past 2 games. The running game has suffered a bit because of it.

Warrick Dunn: He has slowed down the past couple of weeks however he is still a great fit for flex leagues and even start-2 RB leagues. Owners of Dunn cannot be disappointed with how he has done this year, but it is disturbing that he is virtually nonexistent in the passing game where he can do a lot of damage in open space. Good match up for this weekend.

Jerious Norwood: You need to keep him on your radar. He had 70 yards last weekend and 3 catches out of the backfield. That’s 10 points in PPR leagues. If he is on the WW you should pick him up. The Falcons are poised to make a strong playoff run and if Dunn falters, Norwood seems like a good fit.

Kevin Jones: Has really paid off for people that drafted him. This is not a great match up on paper, however the Falcons play good for a few weeks then they drop a game…and they have given up 65 points over the last 2 games. Detroit is playing a lot better on offense. Not a great match up for KJ this weekend but a must start in PPR leagues…and most other leagues too.

Cincinnati 96/66 at Baltimore 100/129

The Ravens have the best rush defense in the NFl allowing 2.7 ypc. But Cinci has done well in the past even against the tougher defenses in their division.

Rudi Johnson: Had 50 yds and a TD last week. Has not had a lot of monster games but has been fairly consistent. Not a great match up but he has proven in the past he can find room to run. I think Cinci will come out throwing and loosen the Ravens up a bit. Also this Ravens team IMO is better than some in years past. The defense for sure.

Chris Perry: Had 4 touches for 23 yds including 2 catches last week. Just keep an eye on him for now.

Jamal Lewis: Had 109 yds rshing last week...but it took 31 carries to get it done and he is no threat out of the backfield. I am not impressed yet. It’s a decent match up because of the soft rush defense and 4.5 ypc from Cinci but I might still let Lewis ride the pine if you have better options.

Dallas 140/110 at Washington 128/80

Dallas is only giving up 3.3 ypc, however Washington is good at running the ball so something has to give. Dallas looked like World Beaters in the 4th quarter last week.

Julius Jones: The perfect RB2. Is having TD vultured by Barber but he is on pace for almost 1,400 yds rushing and 6-7 TDs…most people would gladly take that when they drafted him preseason.

Marion Barber III: 4 weeks he has had 10+ points for FF owners…16+ last week. He is on pace for about 12 TDs. He has made a great bye week filler for a lot of owners. With the Dallas offense rolling right now he is almost a good start in flex leagues.

Clinton Portis: If he can play and is starting you look at him…but if he doesn’t practice and is a game time decision…better yet, if you are somewhere around 4-4 in your league and really need to win this weekend and cannot afford to have him pulled 10 minutes into the game, then look elsewhere and think about what you have on your bench. He has a sprained ankle and was wearing a boot all last week…that’s not good at all.

Portis is listed as probable right now and did practice on Wednesday…I would expect a decent but not great game form him. Dallas has a good rush defense so beware.

Ladell Betts: If Portis could not go then Betts would be an OK option but I am not expecting a lot from him this weekend. I expect Dallas to role the Skins and the running game to be a much smaller factor for Washington.

Green Bay 114/113 at Buffalo 98/94

The Pack are rushing for 4.2 ypc, honestly. The Bills are yielding 4.2 ypc. Expect Green Bay to have a decent day running the ball.

Buffalo has had problems running with consistency all year. Green bay is not terrible at all against the run.

Ahman Green: Has had over 40 points for FF owners the past 2 weeks including 3 rushing TDs. He is a great RB2 in almost any league right now. Good match up this weekend.

Willis McGahee: Has had a couple of OK games but mostly he is on pace for about 1,100+ rushing yards and very few TDs for the season…pretty disappointing for owners. This is a marginal match up. I don’t think he will have his best or worst game of the season against Green Bay…75-100 total yds and maybe a 25% chance of a TD…that’s the expectations McGahee is giving us right now.

Houston 88/96 at NY Giants 146/134

Houston has shown signs of life but expect a very rough day in New York on Sunday.

The Giants should have their way running the football.

Wali Lundy: Has had a couple of nice weeks. In PPR leagues he might be worth a start this weekend, but I expect Lundy to have a very slow weekend in New York. The Giants are pretty good at stopping the run and look for Houston to get run out of Giants Stadium.

Tiki Barber: Must start

Brandon Jacobs: Worth a look this week. I expect the Giants to be ahead and for Jacobs to have some extensive work in the 2nd half and also a short TD plunge somewhere along the way. If you have bye week issues this is the time to roll him out there.

Kansas City 112/134 at St Louis 98/112

The Chiefs have really turned their season around. They have a chance to go to 5-3 this week but on the road in a dome…it’s not going to be easy for their offense. The last time they were on the road they got blasted by Pittsburgh 45-7. The Rams ran into a very lively Chargers team last week…I expect them to do well on Sunday.

Larry Johnson: Should be a fairly high scoring game…does it matter what I write? You start LJ no matter what. 4 TDs last week, guy is a pure stud and making those that drafted him very very happy. 41 points last week…just not fair.

Michael Bennett: He isn’t any kind of threat to see a lot of playing time, however the deadline is approaching many leagues to work the waiver wire, and if you own LJ you might want to get his back up for your playoff run. Just a heads up.

Steven Jackson: 130+ yds and a TD last week…just what FF owners were looking for against a tough SD defense. Look for him to build on that and come out ready to roll on Sunday. The Chiefs are not terrible against the run but inside the dome SJax should have a great day. Jackson is on pace for almost 2,000 total yards on the season. Needs a few more TDs to become a stud but he’s getting there.

Miami 88/82 at Chicago 104/102

In 1985…the Miami Dolphins lead by Dan Marino and a few lucky bounces destroyed an undefeated Chicago Bears 46 defense and left a blueprint for years to come on how to handle the 46 defense. Marino was the perfect QB to beat that particular defense. Well that was 1985 and there is no Marino, instead there is a Harrington and I doubt he has the same success. Miami is pretty good at stopping the run but the bears can throw the ball, something Miami is pretty mediocre at stopping some weeks.

Ronnie Brown: Not one of his better match ups this year. But Gore managed to find 100 yards last week even in defeat.

Thomas Jones: Terrific game last week. Miami is only yielding 3.3 ypc right now though so I expect a very average day form TJ, maybe even below average…this isn’t the Niners run defense so do not look for repeat numbers this week.

Cedric Benson: Bench him. Had a TD last week but even in a 41-10 BLOWOUT he only had 8 carries for 26 yds. Bench him.

New Orleans 98/146 at Tampa Bay 84/122

TB is giving up 4.8 ypc, ouch!!! NO does not actually run as well as many think. Less than 100 yards per game but look for them to try and hammer at the Bucs this Sunday on the road.

Deuce McAllister: Looks like he will have a nice match up set for this week. Should be good for a score and somewhere in the 75-100 yard range.

Reggie Bush: Recovering from the “Hot Sauce” applied by the Ravens this past weekend. Bush had a TD on a punt return last weekend, I look for him to maybe have his break out game this weekend. Yes he’s a little banged up and that may just be what he needs to get things going. He has a lot of receptions for the season but has failed to score an offensive TD. Best suited for flex leagues with PPR right now.

Cadillac Williams: NO is giving up 4.6 ypc so look for the Bucs to use Cadillac early and often this weekend. He should cross 100 yards rushing and possibly break a long one on the Saints who have given up 5 runs of over 20+ yards.

Tennessee 114/96 at Jacksonville 129/162

The Titans managed to win last week but Henry had a very rough day and owners got burned. Trusting the Titans on offense right now is a rough proposition.

Travis Henry: 15 carries for 29 yards…not exactly what owners had in mind. Tough math up this week as Jax is giving up only 3.7 ypc.

Fred Taylor: 103 yards and a TD. Has a nice match up this weekend and Jax must continue to win to claw their way into the playoffs. Start him as an RB2.

Maurice Jones Drew: Had almost 100 yards last week. Perfect for flex leagues with PPR.

Minnesota 105/123 at San Fran 119/72

Chester Taylor: Should bounce back after a terrible outing against the pats last Monday Night. This is a good match up and I expect the Vikes to play much better.

Mewelde Moore: Had 100 yards last week combined. Keep an eye out on him as he could become more involved as the season wears on. Taylor has not had to take a pounding for an entire season as the feature back…that could catch up to him down the stretch.

Frank Gore: Not an easy match up but neither was last week. He managed over 110 yards against the Bears. Still seems like a weekly start at this point.

Cleveland 79/84 at San Diego 157/136

Reuben Droughns: Had his best day of the season last week. Will not be able to post 125 and a TD on the Bolts, however the Chargers have almost no OLB left on their roster. Shawn Merriman is serving a 4 game suspension and Philips is out for the next month as well. If you had to roll the dice on Droughns go ahead, but be warned that this is not a good match up for him.

LaDainian Tomlinson: Easy match up.

Michael Turner: Has a chance to get more involved this week as San Diego should manhandle the Browns.

Denver 155/92 at Pittsburgh 110/90

The Steelers may be 2-5 but they are still a pain to rush against. As they yield only 3.4 ypc. Denver has a good OL and blocking scheme but the Steelers will prove a formidable defense. They held Oakland to under 100 yards on offense last week, that’s unheard of.

Tatum Bell: Nursing a turf toe. Some reports say he might have one on both feet. I don’t like either Bell a whole heckuva lot this week. If you have other options you might want to look at that for at least the time being.

Mike Bell: See above. Don’t let last week against the Colts and their anemic rush defense convince you Mike Bell is worthy of a start at Heinz Field this weekend.

Willie Parker: Denver has not allowed a rushing TD all season. None.

Indy 108/78 at New England 124/167

I will be ready to watch every second of this game on Sunday. The Colts took game 1 of a very tough 2 game road stretch as they fly into New England this weekend. I expect New England to control the line of scrimmage on both sides of the football.

Dominic Rhodes: had 3 carries for no yards. 43 yards receiving. He also is listed along with Addai as questionable in Sunday’s game. It looks like Addai is nudging past Rhodes for playing time.

Joseph Addai: 17 carries for 93 yards. He is clearly the better back in Indy and I expect him to post better numbers the rest of the way, however don’t expect big numbers against the Patriots.

Corey Dillon: Not a bad start as Indy cannot defend the run. NE came out throwing on MNF, I expect them to run the ball down the Colts throat this weekend.

Laurence Maroney: Excellent match up this weekend.

Oakland 111/106 at Seattle 92/126

LaMont Jordan: Watch the injury reports about his back. If he is starting for sure, he is worth a gamble. The Seahawks have given up 28-30+ points in each of their last 5 games. They can’t stop anyone right now.

Justin Fargas: Only if you are in a real pinch and he has been declared the starter for MNF, which I doubt will happen.

Maurice Morris: Has done nothing so far, you’re a fool to start him thinking it will get better. Despite Oakland giving up 126 yards a game, they rate decent on the yards per carry. I expect Seattle to grow impatient and take to the air.

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So who do you see having a better receiving type game - Gore or C Taylor? Taylor never seems to find the end zone but has a much more dominant o-line than the 49ers. How much impact will Kevin Williams being out have on the Vikes D and Gore rushing?

Yes I am trying to decide between those 2 guys...

 
So who do you see having a better receiving type game - Gore or C Taylor? Taylor never seems to find the end zone but has a much more dominant o-line than the 49ers. How much impact will Kevin Williams being out have on the Vikes D and Gore rushing? Yes I am trying to decide between those 2 guys...
Taylor has the easier match up. Gore might make up some ground catching the ball but you didn't see NE try and run on Minnesota, I expect the Niners to try and throw the ball as well. Taylor has the better match up.
 
Thanks, MOP. I missed this yesterday. It is much more entertaining than listening to Oracle 10g Database Architecture and Administration lectures. :)

Where's the nice cheatsheet though? My RB matchups absolutely suck this week: R. Johnson @Baltimore, F. Gore vs. Minnesota, T. Jones vs. Miami, and R. Brown @Chicago. If I read your write-up correctly, I would assume you would go with Johnson and Gore this week?

 
Trying to decide if I should start Ronnie Brown or W Lundy for my #3 RB (also starting Dunn and C Taylor).

 
MOP-

Parker has a tough matchup, Portis is injured. I saw where Portis practiced yesterday, so assuming he plays, who do you start (alongside K. Jones)?

 
Pretty amazing that I've reached the point of having to choose which of Rudi and FWP to bench in favor of Ahman Green.

 
Thanks, MOP. I missed this yesterday. It is much more entertaining than listening to Oracle 10g Database Architecture and Administration lectures. :)Where's the nice cheatsheet though? My RB matchups absolutely suck this week: R. Johnson @Baltimore, F. Gore vs. Minnesota, T. Jones vs. Miami, and R. Brown @Chicago. If I read your write-up correctly, I would assume you would go with Johnson and Gore this week?
I'm glad I rank better than oracle 10g Database Architecture. Moving up in the polls.Last couple of weeks I scrapped the cheatsheet. I don't post it with this article where I am published and had only done it for the FBG Board. However I think it defeats why I post this here to begin with. I enjoy the banter and debate on the upcoming games. A cheatsheet does not make the posters think as much. FBG has a cheatsheet along with lots of other websites. I prefer to talk about the match ups and progress form there.
 
MOP-Parker has a tough matchup, Portis is injured. I saw where Portis practiced yesterday, so assuming he plays, who do you start (alongside K. Jones)?
The Steelers are not going to get rolled this weekend. The Skins very well might. Dallas has a tough defense as does Denver. I think Parker and the Steelers will be in the game most of the way. Denver has not blown teams out and they will have trouble running on the Steelers...with Jake being ineffective this year you have to think the Steelers will operate in better field position than Washington.I can't tell you who to start but maybe this provides more foor for thought. Parker is fairly healthy too.
 
MOP,

OK. I appreciate you explaining why you dropped the cheatsheet. I still miss it though. :( ;)

When looking to try and decide between two comparable players with bad match-ups, like F. Gore and R. Brown have this week, a lot of times I try to determine whether or not the game could become a blowout and reduce opportunities for the RB in question.

I don't think that the Vikings offense has the potential to blowout the Niners like the Chargers and Bears did, although the Chiefs did too. :unsure: But the Chiefs have LJ. Miami, on the other hand, could easliy get blownout by Chicago and quickly too, if they have to air it out, which they probably will if Miami is holding RBs to 3.3 YPC. So between, these two, I would lean Gore, would you?

 
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Trying to decide if I should start Ronnie Brown or W Lundy for my #3 RB (also starting Dunn and C Taylor).
Chicago can actually be run on. Yes they can. They allow somewhere around 4 yards a clip so I would lean on Brown over Lundy this week.
Thanks MOP - great stuff. I've got to decide between R. Brown @ CHI and FWP vs. DEN (to start alongside KJ). Despite Gore going for over 100 yrds. last week, the only other RB to gain 100yrds. vs. CHI this season was A. Green back in week 1. No one else has really even been close (even Gore had one run over 50 yrds that made up half of his total). So, I'm not sure I quite agree with you that CHI can be run on (they are giving up 3.7 yrds/carry, tied for 7th in the NFL). Together with MIA's awful play calling, complete mismanagement of Ronnie's skills, and Harrington's propensity to throw TD's to the other team, Ronnie may not even get 15 carries this week as Mularkey has already shown he's not adverse to having Harrington heave it up 62 times in a game.

On the other hand, DEN is also giving up only 3.7 yrds./carry and as you mentioned has not given up a rushing TD yet. However, I agree with you that PIT has a good chance of hanging around in this game, and so FWP may ultimately get more carries than Ronnie.

Who would you start between the 2?

TIA and thanks for your cogent analysis in these weekly gems.

 
MOP,OK. I appreciate you explaining why you dropped the cheatsheet. I still miss it though. :( ;)When looking to try and decide between two comparable players with bad match-ups, like F. Gore and R. Brown have this week, a lot of times I try to determine whether or not the game could become a blowout and reduce opportunities for the RB in question.I don't think that the Vikings offense has the potential to blowout the Niners like the Chargers and Bears did, although the Chiefs did too. :unsure: But the Chiefs have LJ. Miami, on the other hand, could easliy get blownout by Chicago and quickly too, if they have to air it out, which they probably will if Miami is holding RBs to 3.3 YPC. So between, these two, I would lean Gore, would you?
Minnsota has done well in a lot of their games and I expect them to be able to run on the left side of that line behind Hutch and McKinnie...SF has no answers for that. Gore will have some trouble finding room to run on the Vikes...remember even with Maroney and Dillon, the Pats were still passing the ball in the 4th quarter with a decent lead. But yeah I might lean Gore over Brown at this point.
 
MOP-Parker has a tough matchup, Portis is injured. I saw where Portis practiced yesterday, so assuming he plays, who do you start (alongside K. Jones)?
The Steelers are not going to get rolled this weekend. The Skins very well might. Dallas has a tough defense as does Denver. I think Parker and the Steelers will be in the game most of the way. Denver has not blown teams out and they will have trouble running on the Steelers...with Jake being ineffective this year you have to think the Steelers will operate in better field position than Washington.I can't tell you who to start but maybe this provides more foor for thought. Parker is fairly healthy too.
Makes sense. Do you think Parker will be the 3rd down back now that Haynes is done for the year? That could be fairly big I think.
 
Trying to decide if I should start Ronnie Brown or W Lundy for my #3 RB (also starting Dunn and C Taylor).
Chicago can actually be run on. Yes they can. They allow somewhere around 4 yards a clip so I would lean on Brown over Lundy this week.
Thanks MOP - great stuff. I've got to decide between R. Brown @ CHI and FWP vs. DEN (to start alongside KJ). Despite Gore going for over 100 yrds. last week, the only other RB to gain 100yrds. vs. CHI this season was A. Green back in week 1. No one else has really even been close (even Gore had one run over 50 yrds that made up half of his total). So, I'm not sure I quite agree with you that CHI can be run on (they are giving up 3.7 yrds/carry, tied for 7th in the NFL). Together with MIA's awful play calling, complete mismanagement of Ronnie's skills, and Harrington's propensity to throw TD's to the other team, Ronnie may not even get 15 carries this week as Mularkey has already shown he's not adverse to having Harrington heave it up 62 times in a game.

On the other hand, DEN is also giving up only 3.7 yrds./carry and as you mentioned has not given up a rushing TD yet. However, I agree with you that PIT has a good chance of hanging around in this game, and so FWP may ultimately get more carries than Ronnie.

Who would you start between the 2?

TIA and thanks for your cogent analysis in these weekly gems.
You did an excellent job of explaining your position on Ronnie Brown. I agree and think you probably are leaning the right way with FWP.
 
MOP-Parker has a tough matchup, Portis is injured. I saw where Portis practiced yesterday, so assuming he plays, who do you start (alongside K. Jones)?
The Steelers are not going to get rolled this weekend. The Skins very well might. Dallas has a tough defense as does Denver. I think Parker and the Steelers will be in the game most of the way. Denver has not blown teams out and they will have trouble running on the Steelers...with Jake being ineffective this year you have to think the Steelers will operate in better field position than Washington.I can't tell you who to start but maybe this provides more foor for thought. Parker is fairly healthy too.
Makes sense. Do you think Parker will be the 3rd down back now that Haynes is done for the year? That could be fairly big I think.
No, I think you will see Staley and Davenport shuffled in and out of the line up to give FWP a blow.
 
So who do you see having a better receiving type game - Gore or C Taylor? Taylor never seems to find the end zone but has a much more dominant o-line than the 49ers. How much impact will Kevin Williams being out have on the Vikes D and Gore rushing?

Yes I am trying to decide between those 2 guys...
NFL INJ report QUESTIONABLE

C Matt Birk (Knee) Hurts C. Taylor a ton if he does not go.

MLB Napoleon Harris (Wrist)

WR Marcus Robinson (Back)

DT Kevin Williams (Ankle)

NT Pat Williams (Knee)

It's Not just KW that QUESTIONABLE it the whole middle of Vikings Def. No KW not Fat Pat and no Harris.

I would start Gore over Taylor.

With short week this could be trap game for vikings .

*Gore Owner/Vikings Homer* If middle of def is out. Gore might put up some big numbers. SF does not have passing attack like NE.

 
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Nice Job

But it only confused me more on who to start between Lundy, Dunn, Dillon and Bush ???

Also Bush scored on a punt return last week?? Are you sure about that?

 
Nice JobBut it only confused me more on who to start between Lundy, Dunn, Dillon and Bush ???Also Bush scored on a punt return last week?? Are you sure about that?
Good catch, I meant last game against Tampa Bay...it's tuough at 1 in the morning sometimes...I'm going to leave it as is.
 
Good job MOP I always appreciate this thread as somthing to compare my own thoughts for weekly matchups against.

I agree with your assesment about Carnell Williams prospects vs. the Saints defense as far at it being a favorable matchup for him. However I have really lost trust in Gruden getting him the ball. Last week Williams should have gotten twice as many carries as he did and as we all know he is the type of running back that gets better as he gets more carries.

Yet Gruden still chose to throw the ball 79% of thier offensive downs, in swirling winds against a Giants defense that imho is more dangerous against the pass than it is the running game. The score was also not so lopsided as to force the Bucs into passing the ball so frequently.

I have really lost trust in Gruden giving Williams the ball. He seems hell bent on throwing it the majority of the time like what he was doing when coaching the raiders. Williams is not a prolific recieving Rb like Garner was although he has improved. It makes me very nervous to consider starting Williams at all any more despite matchup because of this.

 
So who do you see having a better receiving type game - Gore or C Taylor? Taylor never seems to find the end zone but has a much more dominant o-line than the 49ers. How much impact will Kevin Williams being out have on the Vikes D and Gore rushing?

Yes I am trying to decide between those 2 guys...
NFL INJ report QUESTIONABLE

C Matt Birk (Knee) Hurts C. Taylor a ton if he does not go.

MLB Napoleon Harris (Wrist)

WR Marcus Robinson (Back)

DT Kevin Williams (Ankle)

NT Pat Williams (Knee)

It's Not just KW that QUESTIONABLE it the whole middle of Vikings Def. No KW not Fat Pat and no Harris.

I would start Gore over Taylor.

With short week this could be trap game for vikings .

*Gore Owner/Vikings Homer* If middle of def is out. Gore might put up some big numbers. SF does not have passing attack like NE.
Local radio is saying that it looks like right now, only WR Marcus Robinson and MLB Nap Harris are looking like they won't suit on Sunday.Just found this on the paper's beat writer's blog:

Another day, another injury report

Thursday, November 2nd, 2006 by Judd Zulgad

The Vikings made no changes on their injury report for Sunday’s game at San Francisco. That means nine players are on the list and five remain questionable.

The questionable group includes receiver Marcus Robinson (lower back); middle linebacker Napoleon Harris (wrist); nose tackle Pat Williams (knee); center Matt Birk (knee); and defensive tackle Kevin Williams (ankle). Linebacker Ben Leber (illness); right guard Artis Hicks (neck); right tackle Marcus Johnson (ankle); and safety Darren Sharper (knee) are probable.

It appears that Harris and Robinson will not play Sunday. The rest of the players listed as “questionable,” likely will be on the field. Leber, by the way, was back in the locker room today and went through practice.

The 49ers added safety Chad Williams (quadriceps) as questionable. Tight end Vernon Davis (fibula) is listed as doubtful and running back Maurice Hicks (concussion) also remain questionable.

 
pigskin pimp said:
tietzjd said:
So who do you see having a better receiving type game - Gore or C Taylor? Taylor never seems to find the end zone but has a much more dominant o-line than the 49ers. How much impact will Kevin Williams being out have on the Vikes D and Gore rushing?

Yes I am trying to decide between those 2 guys...
NFL INJ report QUESTIONABLE

C Matt Birk (Knee) Hurts C. Taylor a ton if he does not go.

MLB Napoleon Harris (Wrist)

WR Marcus Robinson (Back)

DT Kevin Williams (Ankle)

NT Pat Williams (Knee)

It's Not just KW that QUESTIONABLE it the whole middle of Vikings Def. No KW not Fat Pat and no Harris.

I would start Gore over Taylor.

With short week this could be trap game for vikings .

*Gore Owner/Vikings Homer* If middle of def is out. Gore might put up some big numbers. SF does not have passing attack like NE.
Local radio is saying that it looks like right now, only WR Marcus Robinson and MLB Nap Harris are looking like they won't suit on Sunday.Just found this on the paper's beat writer's blog:

Another day, another injury report

Thursday, November 2nd, 2006 by Judd Zulgad

The Vikings made no changes on their injury report for Sunday’s game at San Francisco. That means nine players are on the list and five remain questionable.

The questionable group includes receiver Marcus Robinson (lower back); middle linebacker Napoleon Harris (wrist); nose tackle Pat Williams (knee); center Matt Birk (knee); and defensive tackle Kevin Williams (ankle). Linebacker Ben Leber (illness); right guard Artis Hicks (neck); right tackle Marcus Johnson (ankle); and safety Darren Sharper (knee) are probable.

It appears that Harris and Robinson will not play Sunday. The rest of the players listed as “questionable,” likely will be on the field. Leber, by the way, was back in the locker room today and went through practice.

The 49ers added safety Chad Williams (quadriceps) as questionable. Tight end Vernon Davis (fibula) is listed as doubtful and running back Maurice Hicks (concussion) also remain questionable.
Yep heard the same thing on KFAN update.Still With Harriss out and Both Williams not 100% Gore match up is not as bad as most would think.

 
cbrepresent said:
Dillon or Maroney this week guys??? Who do you like for the remainder of the season?
I just traded Chambers for Dillon, but would rather have Maroney. I think Maroney will get more and more carries as the season goes. He can do more with less work, so even if Dillon gets more carries I think Maroney is the better producer.
 
Hey MOP! As always, thanks for your contributions on this board. My .02 on some of your comments this week.

Kevin Jones: I believe he is a must-start right now. Stating that on-paper Atlanta is not a good match-up is a bit misleading. They've been a decent run defense, but have been giving up a lot yards in the air. Jones will get some on the ground, and will be more successful catching the ball than usual = a good week for K. Jones is in store.

Rudi Jones: You have stated that Rudi can find some room to run against Baltimore. I disagree with this. Baltimore has been the #1 defense against the run, and have virtually shut everybody down. I think he is a poor RB2 this week, and will be lucky to get 60 yards, and would be amazingly lucky to get a score. Most will have better options this week.

A. Green: You've stated he has a good match-up vs. Buffalo; and I disagree with this. Nobody has rushed for more than 50 yards against Buffalo, at Buffalo this year and they are coming off of a bye. I believe that Green Bay will have to get it done through the air this week, and Favre will gets his, while Green falls a bit short of his averages. He's still a good RB2 this week, as he should still get about 75/25 with a 50% chance for a score, but I don't think this is a good match-up for him.

S-Jax: Kansas City's D is a big wildcard right now. They have been just monsters the last two games at home; shutting down San Diego and Seattle's running games. They are much better traditionally at home than on the road, but I have a feeling that this D might be for real = I don't expect Jackson "to roll" (as you put it) against them. He's still a must start, and should get 100+ total yards and a good possibility of a score, but this match-up is not a gimme.

R. Brown: You mention that Chicago can be run on and use Gore's 100+ last week as your example. Chicago took Gore out of the game in the first half (only had 6 rushes) by totally dominating SF. Gore got most of his yards on two carries (a 53 yarder and a 21 yarder) in the fourth quarter, with Chicago in the prevent, and resting starters. While Miami might see a similar situation, I don't like banking on "charity" fantasy points.

M. Morris: you state that "you are a fool for starting him." I would argue that he is a decent RB2 this week, and it can get better for him. Since taking over, he's had the joy of taking over against the Giants, then starting @ Chicago, @ StL, MIN and @ KC. That's a brutal schedule, and it is forseeable that he could put up some yards and even a score this week (I'd guess 95 total yards and 50% chance for a score). The schedule gets even brighter the next few weeks = IF Alexander is out any longer, he could be a bit productive.

That's all I've got for now. Best of luck to everyone this week.

~Liquors

 
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Hey MOP! As always, thanks for your contributions on this board. My .02 on some of your comments this week.

Before I rebuttal some of this, thanks for the diffrent point of view. Absolutely love the debate on the RB match ups. OK, here we go.

Kevin Jones: I believe he is a must-start right now. Stating that on-paper Atlanta is not a good match-up is a bit misleading. They've been a decent run defense, but have been giving up a lot yards in the air. Jones will get some on the ground, and will be more successful catching the ball than usual = a good week for K. Jones is in store.

I wrote Kevin Jones is not a great match up on paper. Atlanta is not yielding a lot of rushing yds per game and Detroit is not a "running" type team...however the Falcons are giving up a lot of points and I feel KJ will benefit from them playing catch up and should continue to provide points in the receiving game as he ahs done most of the season so far. One of the reasons his OL injuries have not affected him as much is his dual threat out of the backfield. KJ is top10 right now and I think he will continue to do well for owners. I actually think you echoed mythoughts a bit.

Rudi Jones: You have stated that Rudi can find some room to run against Baltimore. I disagree with this. Baltimore has been the #1 defense against the run, and have virtually shut everybody down. I think he is a poor RB2 this week, and will be lucky to get 60 yards, and would be amazingly lucky to get a score. Most will have better options this week.

OK, but Rudi has Carson palmer and a trio of WR to push the Ravens back. They cannot commit 7 into the box or they will get burned all day in the secondary. If they drop 5 to cover the 3 WR, that leaves 6 in the box and Rudi can find room to run. I'm not saying he is a great play this week but I am seeing him come up as 25-35 on some cheat sheets out there and I feel that's too low.

A. Green: You've stated he has a good match-up vs. Buffalo; and I disagree with this. Nobody has rushed for more than 50 yards against Buffalo, at Buffalo this year and they are coming off of a bye. I believe that Green Bay will have to get it done through the air this week, and Favre will gets his, while Green falls a bit short of his averages. He's still a good RB2 this week, as he should still get about 75/25 with a 50% chance for a score, but I don't think this is a good match-up for him.

There are things that add to a RB having good match ups. I think it's terrific you went to the trouble to look up what Buffalo has done at home this season. But let's look a little deeper. Against the Jets they gave up 2 rushing TDs although they did not give up a lot of yards. They did shut down Minnesota's run game in all areas. New England managed to score 2 TDs as well. That's 4 rushing TDs in 3 games so far. This will be their 4th game at home. I still like GB to get some offense going on Sunday.

S-Jax: Kansas City's D is a big wildcard right now. They have been just monsters the last two games at home; shutting down San Diego and Seattle's running games. They are much better traditionally at home than on the road, but I have a feeling that this D might be for real = I don't expect Jackson "to roll" (as you put it) against them. He's still a must start, and should get 100+ total yards and a good possibility of a score, but this match-up is not a gimme.

You think SJax will get 100+ and a TD but you don't think he'll roll? If he has that kind of day he will finish in the top5-10 for the week. KC does show up different from home. KC will look a lot softer to St Louis than SD was last week. SJax is a must start and should roll. This will be a high scoring game on Sunday with 3 TD of offense likely for each team. 28-21...something along those lines and that means there is a lot of points to cash in on.

R. Brown: You mention that Chicago can be run on and use Gore's 100+ last week as your example. Chicago took Gore out of the game in the first half (only had 6 rushes) by totally dominating SF. Gore got most of his yards on two carries (a 53 yarder and a 21 yarder) in the fourth quarter, with Chicago in the prevent, and resting starters. While Miami might see a similar situation, I don't like banking on "charity" fantasy points.

I don't think Brown is a great start this week by any stertch...however this bears team is not the '85 bears and I can see a let down coming for them. Miami has nothing to lose at this point. As I read what i posted I am not voting that people blindly start Ronnie Brown but merely showing what Gore was able to put up. He only had 12 carries last week, and I don't think owners cared if Gore got 50 in 1 carry or not.

M. Morris: you state that "you are a fool for starting him." I would argue that he is a decent RB2 this week, and it can get better for him. Since taking over, he's had the joy of taking over against the Giants, then starting @ Chicago, @ StL, MIN and @ KC. That's a brutal schedule, and it is forseeable that he could put up some yards and even a score this week (I'd guess 95 total yards and 50% chance for a score). The schedule gets even brighter the next few weeks = IF Alexander is out any longer, he could be a bit productive.

Point taken, but MoMo has done nothing to this point.

That's all I've got for now. Best of luck to everyone this week.

~Liquors
Great post Pigskin, love the banter, love the different POV...where ya been all year?

 
I'm curious to see what some other people think.

Who has better value this week....

Maurice Jones-Drew vs. a poor Ten. D (sharing the workload with Freddy T.)

or

Wali Lundy as a clear cut #1 guy vs. his hometown NY Giants?

After watching Freddy look pretty good the last couple of weeks, and going against a D that gives up a good amount of yards, I would worry that he may see a majority of the work, while Lundy goes against a tough G-Men D, he is emerging as Kubiak's #1 guy at the moment and will see pretty much all the touches apart from a short yardage situation, plus receptions out of the backfield.

I'd say Lundy has better upside this week, what are your thoughts?

TIA

 
Hey MOP! As always, thanks for your contributions on this board. My .02 on some of your comments this week.

Before I rebuttal some of this, thanks for the diffrent point of view. Absolutely love the debate on the RB match ups. OK, here we go.

Kevin Jones: I believe he is a must-start right now. Stating that on-paper Atlanta is not a good match-up is a bit misleading. They've been a decent run defense, but have been giving up a lot yards in the air. Jones will get some on the ground, and will be more successful catching the ball than usual = a good week for K. Jones is in store.

I wrote Kevin Jones is not a great match up on paper. Atlanta is not yielding a lot of rushing yds per game and Detroit is not a "running" type team...however the Falcons are giving up a lot of points and I feel KJ will benefit from them playing catch up and should continue to provide points in the receiving game as he ahs done most of the season so far. One of the reasons his OL injuries have not affected him as much is his dual threat out of the backfield. KJ is top10 right now and I think he will continue to do well for owners. I actually think you echoed mythoughts a bit.

Rudi Jones: You have stated that Rudi can find some room to run against Baltimore. I disagree with this. Baltimore has been the #1 defense against the run, and have virtually shut everybody down. I think he is a poor RB2 this week, and will be lucky to get 60 yards, and would be amazingly lucky to get a score. Most will have better options this week.

OK, but Rudi has Carson palmer and a trio of WR to push the Ravens back. They cannot commit 7 into the box or they will get burned all day in the secondary. If they drop 5 to cover the 3 WR, that leaves 6 in the box and Rudi can find room to run. I'm not saying he is a great play this week but I am seeing him come up as 25-35 on some cheat sheets out there and I feel that's too low.

A. Green: You've stated he has a good match-up vs. Buffalo; and I disagree with this. Nobody has rushed for more than 50 yards against Buffalo, at Buffalo this year and they are coming off of a bye. I believe that Green Bay will have to get it done through the air this week, and Favre will gets his, while Green falls a bit short of his averages. He's still a good RB2 this week, as he should still get about 75/25 with a 50% chance for a score, but I don't think this is a good match-up for him.

There are things that add to a RB having good match ups. I think it's terrific you went to the trouble to look up what Buffalo has done at home this season. But let's look a little deeper. Against the Jets they gave up 2 rushing TDs although they did not give up a lot of yards. They did shut down Minnesota's run game in all areas. New England managed to score 2 TDs as well. That's 4 rushing TDs in 3 games so far. This will be their 4th game at home. I still like GB to get some offense going on Sunday.

S-Jax: Kansas City's D is a big wildcard right now. They have been just monsters the last two games at home; shutting down San Diego and Seattle's running games. They are much better traditionally at home than on the road, but I have a feeling that this D might be for real = I don't expect Jackson "to roll" (as you put it) against them. He's still a must start, and should get 100+ total yards and a good possibility of a score, but this match-up is not a gimme.

You think SJax will get 100+ and a TD but you don't think he'll roll? If he has that kind of day he will finish in the top5-10 for the week. KC does show up different from home. KC will look a lot softer to St Louis than SD was last week. SJax is a must start and should roll. This will be a high scoring game on Sunday with 3 TD of offense likely for each team. 28-21...something along those lines and that means there is a lot of points to cash in on.

R. Brown: You mention that Chicago can be run on and use Gore's 100+ last week as your example. Chicago took Gore out of the game in the first half (only had 6 rushes) by totally dominating SF. Gore got most of his yards on two carries (a 53 yarder and a 21 yarder) in the fourth quarter, with Chicago in the prevent, and resting starters. While Miami might see a similar situation, I don't like banking on "charity" fantasy points.

I don't think Brown is a great start this week by any stertch...however this bears team is not the '85 bears and I can see a let down coming for them. Miami has nothing to lose at this point. As I read what i posted I am not voting that people blindly start Ronnie Brown but merely showing what Gore was able to put up. He only had 12 carries last week, and I don't think owners cared if Gore got 50 in 1 carry or not.

M. Morris: you state that "you are a fool for starting him." I would argue that he is a decent RB2 this week, and it can get better for him. Since taking over, he's had the joy of taking over against the Giants, then starting @ Chicago, @ StL, MIN and @ KC. That's a brutal schedule, and it is forseeable that he could put up some yards and even a score this week (I'd guess 95 total yards and 50% chance for a score). The schedule gets even brighter the next few weeks = IF Alexander is out any longer, he could be a bit productive.

Point taken, but MoMo has done nothing to this point.

That's all I've got for now. Best of luck to everyone this week.

~Liquors
Great post Pigskin, love the banter, love the different POV...where ya been all year?
I'm on sabbatical, and have been on the road. This is my first (and only) full-week in the office this semester. It doesn't look like we differ in much beyond semantics above. I only tried to shed more light on some of the situations. Da'Bears also seem to be a bit banged up this week = Brown might have a chance for some yardage. I would still bench him unless you don't have better options. I also don't think that Palmer, et al. can open it up enough to make Rudi a must start this week. They've struggled at doing it to date, and Baltimore's D is as good as I've seen (ever!).

 
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I'm curious to see what some other people think.Who has better value this week....Maurice Jones-Drew vs. a poor Ten. D (sharing the workload with Freddy T.)orWali Lundy as a clear cut #1 guy vs. his hometown NY Giants?After watching Freddy look pretty good the last couple of weeks, and going against a D that gives up a good amount of yards, I would worry that he may see a majority of the work, while Lundy goes against a tough G-Men D, he is emerging as Kubiak's #1 guy at the moment and will see pretty much all the touches apart from a short yardage situation, plus receptions out of the backfield.I'd say Lundy has better upside this week, what are your thoughts?TIA
Lundy does have more upside, but Jones-Drew is the safer pick. IF you think your team is better than your opponents, I suggest Jones-Drew. If you think you are equal, or the other team is better, I'd go with Lundy. I always take the least risky players when I believe I have the advantage, and the more upside person when I don't have the advantage.
 
All 3 of my RBs have tough matchups this week for me in a must win. :cry: Im sticking with Gore & Rudi over Addai

 
All 3 of my RBs have tough matchups this week for me in a must win. :cry: Im sticking with Gore & Rudi over Addai
I'd go Gore and Addai, and bench Rudi. I really don't expect much from Rudi this week, while Addai should be able to move the ball up and down the field against Indy's D. Gore is the no-brainer of the bunch.
 
Cleveland 79/84 at San Diego 157/136Reuben Droughns: Had his best day of the season last week. Will not be able to post 125 and a TD on the Bolts, however the Chargers have almost no OLB left on their roster. Shawn Merriman is serving a 4 game suspension and Philips is out for the next month as well. If you had to roll the dice on Droughns go ahead, but be warned that this is not a good match up for him.
I also think that R. Droughns will struggle to gain yardage and will most likely not score. Wimer seems to agree as he's rated his game as a tough matchup. Dodds on the otherhand has projected a very good game from Droughns which befuddles me. I think Dodds' projected carries and touchdowns (or fraction thereof) are too high considering San Diego's run defense.
 
All 3 of my RBs have tough matchups this week for me in a must win. :cry: Im sticking with Gore & Rudi over Addai
I'd go Gore and Addai, and bench Rudi. I really don't expect much from Rudi this week, while Addai should be able to move the ball up and down the field against Indy's D. Gore is the no-brainer of the bunch.
NE has a real tough run defense too. Im really confused. Some people say I should def start Rudi and some people say Addai. So I really dont know what to do.
 
I like the Maroney match-up vs IND but what is the deal with him missing practice? Is he really hurt with the ankle? :wall:

 
I like the Maroney match-up vs IND but what is the deal with him missing practice? Is he really hurt with the ankle? :wall:
Maroney's questionable, but we all know the games Belechik plays with the injury reports......If Maroney can't go Dillon will be a must start, getting all the carries against a terrible Indy run defense. Owning both, I'm in a quandry, because I would ordinarily start Maroney this week with his power and speed against Indy, but now I'm leaning toward Dillon.Waiting for more info on the injury/missing practice report. Any NE homers see him practice?
 
All 3 of my RBs have tough matchups this week for me in a must win. :cry: Im sticking with Gore & Rudi over Addai
I'd go Gore and Addai, and bench Rudi. I really don't expect much from Rudi this week, while Addai should be able to move the ball up and down the field against Indy's D. Gore is the no-brainer of the bunch.
addai is going to run up and down against his own d? that should make for an interesting day :o
 
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I agree with C. Taylor this week. I am starting him. I actually just traded R. Johnson for him. I like his matchups the rest of the way, and after Monday Night it is obvious Minnesota is not going to win passing the ball. Was wondering your opinons on the following possible #2 backs?

Parker

M Bell/T Bell

M Morris

Addai

All of these guys have tough matchups. How do you rank them?

Parker: Denver is tough against the run, but Indy had success. Pitt should run more with Ben's troubles and game should be close.

Addai: Looks to be taking over the #1 spot. Ran well against Denver who is just as tough as the Pat's defense and should get an opportunity to run and catch the ball as the Pats must defend the pass

M. Morris: Has done nothing but Oakland has not been good against the pass.

Bells: Tough matchup. Splitting carries? Too many unknowns

 
All 3 of my RBs have tough matchups this week for me in a must win. :cry: Im sticking with Gore & Rudi over Addai
I'd go Gore and Addai, and bench Rudi. I really don't expect much from Rudi this week, while Addai should be able to move the ball up and down the field against Indy's D. Gore is the no-brainer of the bunch.
addai is going to run up and down against his own d? that should make for an interesting day :o
Why not, everyone else has! This comes from a Colts homer and I approved this message.
 

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