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RB Melvin Gordon, BAL (1 Viewer)

I watched it, and didn't like what I saw. His vision/patience is lacking.  

On Henry's red zone TD he missed  the block on a blitzer. Rivers release it very quickly so it didn't matter.

The play before Henry's TD, he got a carry where they pulled the backside guard and tackle. I could be wrong, but it looked like if he had just allowed them a second more to get to their blocks, he could have scored a TD. He slammed it into the line behind them. I had the same feeling on many of his runs. There were more yards to be had.

I see why Woodhead took so many carries from him. Woodhead shows better patience, lets the plays develop (glad he is hurt). I thought this was strength of Gordon, so much so, I drafted him over Gurley in one league(rookie draft).

 
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ShamrockPride said:
It was the Broncos defense. Don't over think it. Pass protection was no better, Denver's D really is just that good. And if someone broke it down each carry, you'd see he had maybe 6-8 carries of 5-8 yards. But he was in a lot of 2nd/3rd and shirts where they just gave it to him to smash up the gut for a first. And he successfully played power back and got that first down 3 or 4 times last night.
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Except you're wrong, the Broncos d has been average against the run. What was the excuse against the colts, raiders and saints?

 
I thought he ran hard and tough. He was being met at the line of scrimmage by a Denver defender nearly every play. I was impressed on how he continued to press to gain 2-3 yards.

 
voiceofunreason said:
Except you're wrong, the Broncos d has been average against the run. What was the excuse against the colts, raiders and saints?
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 What does Broncos other games have to do with last night?  If you watched the game you would have seen Miller living in the backfield.  It's disappointing when a statement like yours is made. Clearly Broncos were far from average against the run last night. 

 
Pipes said:
Did you watch the game last night?  I didn't see a lot of holes for him and in fact he was facing a lot of 8 and 9 man fronts.  Denver's defense is pretty good.  Gordon may not be a stud but he's outproducing his adp this year for sure.
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I was just putting stats there; I wasn't trying to insinuate anything 

 
Billy Ball Thorton said:
 What does Broncos other games have to do with last night?  If you watched the game you would have seen Miller living in the backfield.  It's disappointing when a statement like yours is made. Clearly Broncos were far from average against the run last night. 
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So what was the excuse in the saints, colts and raider games? I'm sure you have one.

And i was responding to someone saying how good the broncos run defense is. You are really not to with it.

 
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I was sure i'd see some Farrow last nite. That 1st half on the heels of 51-140 v the sieves that are the Indy/No/Oak run Ds and i dont?! When i didnt, started praying for another fumble and got the 49yarder instead. The madness continues...

 
I thought he did well to get 2/3 yards on most plays last night, I'm not sure why some seem to not be able to agree to this. 

 
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voiceofunreason said:
So what was the excuse in the saints, colts and raider games? I'm sure you have one.

And i was responding to someone saying how good the broncos run defense is. You are really not to with it.
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He had 5 TD's and 75+ combined yards per in those games.

I'm not saying he's the next "thing" or anything, but geez the "analysts" and some posters sure are harsh on this guy. He has FAR FAR beat expectation so far, I'm not sure why he deserves or gets this much critcism.

 
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The Chargers' run blocking is abysmal.

Like Gurley, he is getting hit behind the line of scrimmage on nearly every snap.

 
There was only one play by Gordon last night where I had thought he could have bounced it outside sooner and perhaps could have gotten a decent gain out of it if he could have got around Miller. My cousin and I were talking about it on the replay. Miller forced their RT into the backfield immediately and that pretty much prevented him from taking it outside.

The play calling seemed really basic for Gordon, tons of dive plays up the middle. Against Denvers defense, that is maybe the best thing to do. it is really hard to beat them on the edges. Lots of rushing attempts, very few provided Gordon any lane to run through aside from the one where he had his big run. I don't think it is fair to criticize him for lack of vision. What was he supposed to see that he missed? Seriously?

The thing I didn't like is that it seemed he was less involved as a receiving option than he was against the Saints and Colts. He is getting McClustered on 3rd down by Wiz now.

 
People still crying over ypc in here? Now he's even monopolizing the backfield pass catcher role. True 3 down back. If it hasn't been said before, the first year struggle was worth the wait.

 
He's terrible. I threw up in my mouth when they went to him on that 3rd down play. Please trade him if you own him on this game. Cash out now.

 
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ShamrockPride said:
People still crying over ypc in here? Now he's even monopolizing the backfield pass catcher role. True 3 down back. If it hasn't been said before, the first year struggle was worth the wait.
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He is the 3 down back by default, due to Woodhead's injury. It is temporary unless he plays better going forward.

 
Just Win Baby said:
He is the 3 down back by default, due to Woodhead's injury. It is temporary unless he plays better going forward.
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Mccluster wasn't in much this week. If Gordon keeps showing himself capable, there's no great reason for them to re-sign a 32 year old Woodhead, or anyone else beside a later draft pick or cheap FA after the end of the season.

 
Ya know I keep hearing week after week "sell high!", "sell high!" Damn, this guy and David Johnson are carrying my team. I'm dying at WR and QB, wondering what would be fair value return for a guy who's a 3-down feature back, and among NFL leaders in TD's.

 
ShamrockPride said:
Mccluster wasn't in much this week. If Gordon keeps showing himself capable, there's no great reason for them to re-sign a 32 year old Woodhead, or anyone else beside a later draft pick or cheap FA after the end of the season.
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Gordon's an average rb. There's plenty of reasons to re-sign Woodhead or someone else if he's not back to where he was.

 
Milkman said:
He's terrible. I threw up in my mouth when they went to him on that 3rd down play. Please trade him if you own him on this game. Cash out now.
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People have been saying this for weeks yet he keeps racking up the TDs.  I could see moving him high in a dynasty but holding in redraft.  Not sure what people expect in return for him in a redraft.

 
Pipes said:
People have been saying this for weeks yet he keeps racking up the TDs.  I could see moving him high in a dynasty but holding in redraft.  Not sure what people expect in return for him in a redraft.
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Amen brutha. I'm in a redraft, and I think I have to pull the trigger on a deal though. Already got an offer for him as part of a 6-player deal, but I think it's a crap offer considering what Gordon has done this year. I'm hoping today will shut up these fantasy columnists who drive down player values, and talk others up. At times it was so much more fun in the pre and early internet days of fantast football

 
I'm glad to see him turn it around him is year after that year last year.  I honestly didn't think he had it in him but glad to see he did.  I think for fantasy owners, however, he is a sell high candidate. The perfect storm he is in can't possibly last.  

 
Gordon is a stud but gets below average blocking. They trust him and he's getting terrific opportunities. Even a modest improvement in that line will result in a decent ypc, but in the meantime the TD's will continue.

If people wanna sell low, I'm buying.

 
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renesauz said:
Gordon is a stud but gets below average blocking. They trust him and he's getting terrific opportunities. Even a modest improvement in that line will result in a decent ypc, but in the meantime the TD's will continue.

If people wanna sell low, I'm buying.
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I don't see how anyone could sell low, especially after today's game. I think I might try to be greedy and see what happens. I'm just praying CJ Anderson shows me something, else I don't think I should bother moving Gordon for a WR or QB.

 
He's doing well.  That Chargers OL isn't helping, he's often being contacted behind the line and there are few holes.  On the couple of stuffs he was contacted a yard or two behind the line.  Not anything an RB can do there.  And on one of the stuffs he bounced it for a big gain after Deon Jones couldn't wrap up.

 
Guy looks good and is converting well on short yardage runs both when they need it for first downs and td's. He is not getting much in the way of holes from that O line, but he is doing a good job taking what is there, even if it's a 3 yard run up the gut. Coaches appreciate those runs as opposed to trying to bounce every single play.  He looks improved in all facets of the game and the team is feeding their work horse rb.

Fantasy owners should rejoice and ride this train. There are very few situations like this anymore. Take it and be happy you have him.  

 
Gordon gets lots of touches, his competition for touches got injured, & he has an offensive coordinator that will commit to the run all year. Its possible the run block will improve as they work on it. Id try to trade for him if i didnt draft him. 

 
I was posting about selling high a few weeks ago.  Wasn't able to.  Glad I kept him.  Not many rbs producing like this.

 
renesauz said:
Gordon is a stud but gets below average blocking. They trust him and he's getting terrific opportunities. Even a modest improvement in that line will result in a decent ypc, but in the meantime the TD's will continue.

If people wanna sell low, I'm buying.
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You mean they trust Gordon more than running the qb option with Rivers? Well it's more than I trust him so I guess that's something. Maybe they'll sign Richardson and form the perfect two headed monster.

 
voiceofunreason said:
You mean they trust Gordon more than running the qb option with Rivers? Well it's more than I trust him so I guess that's something. Maybe they'll sign Richardson and form the perfect two headed monster.
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Sorry, but Gordon has looked much better than Richardson EVER looked. Again, I'm very willing to "buy low"

 
renesauz said:
Sorry, but Gordon has looked much better than Richardson EVER looked. Again, I'm very willing to "buy low"
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Good for you, but you are buying at skyhigh, never to be seen again prices. And I said Richardson was awful after his first year and people said he was better than AP. 

 
He looked really good vs a very tough D.  SD should have given him the ball on Devner 2 multiple times but they did not. 4 passes and no TD. Feed your TD machine back. Regardless, still almost 160 yards and looked really good doing it. 

He is turning into a such a complete back. For everyone bought low in dynasty good on you. He is who SD thought he could be when they picked him in the 1st round. 

 
voiceofunreason said:
Good for you, but you are buying at skyhigh, never to be seen again prices. And I said Richardson was awful after his first year and people said he was better than AP. 
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Um, Gordon is in his 2nd year and obviously showing huge improvement over his rookie year. That slug Richardson was a disaster in year 2 and beyond.

 
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The key thing I'm noticing is that from week to week, he is becoming such a more physical runner. There were some runs today where he matched the physicality of the Denver D, just dipping his head and shouldering up 3 or 4  defenders. I love seeing this progression.

 
renesauz said:
Gordon is a stud but gets below average blocking. They trust him and he's getting terrific opportunities. Even a modest improvement in that line will result in a decent ypc, but in the meantime the TD's will continue.

If people wanna sell low, I'm buying.
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Just wait until next summer, then. Every summer there is a pronouncement that the line was terrible LAST year and it's so much better THIS year. Well, this is probably the best OL they have had in a half dozen years. The line is the way it is because ownership won't invest in GM's/FA's/picks to fix it. So you can hold your breath with Charger fans and hope for different ownership if you expect a big improvement in the OL anytime soon.

 
Some where so quick to write Gordon off.  This guy is proving to be an elite all around back and looks the part.  Congrats to all that bought him cheap while you could. 

 
So glad I held on trading this guy. I'm sure I'll hear again these experts who week after week "inefficient", "sell high", "TD-dependent." At this point the mute button is going on.

 
Carter_Can_Fly said:
Some where so quick to write Gordon off.  This guy is proving to be an elite all around back and looks the part.  Congrats to all that bought him cheap while you could. 
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I'm just concerned about burn out, 32 is a lot of carries (plus the other touches)... can't continue the remaining 7 games (guessing no playoffs with the teams ahead of SD)?

 
gethugefast1 said:
I'm just concerned about burn out, 32 is a lot of carries (plus the other touches)... can't continue the remaining 7 games (guessing no playoffs with the teams ahead of SD)?
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He spent all off season working out and getting ready for a huge load. This guy does not just want to be good, he wants to be great. He reached out to workout with Adrian Peterson this off season. If Gordon was old or coming off 4 plus years, maybe over worked would come into play, but he is capable of handling this type of a load. 

 
I'm riding Gordon in multiple leagues, and while I love the production, I think this is the week to roster Farrow, just in case.  Workload is piling up and while I absolutely love Gordon's physicality, he's taking some shots.  

 
tommyGunZ said:
I'm riding Gordon in multiple leagues, and while I love the production, I think this is the week to roster Farrow, just in case.  Workload is piling up and while I absolutely love Gordon's physicality, he's taking some shots.  
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Gordon has a track record of being able to handle a high workload in college without wearing down. So while your concern has merit I think Gordon will be fine.

He is currently getting 21.4 rushing attempts per game and 4.2 targets per game. So about 25 combined opportunities.

His last season in Wisconsin he had 24.5 rushing attempts and 1.4 receptions per game. So about 26 combined opportunities (I didn't bother to look up targets).

 
Redraft ppr my buddy was offered Lev Bell for Gordon. At the beginning of the season it would have been an auto accept. Now I'm not so sure.

 
Knee got pinned in a fumble pile. Likely out for rest of game. My playoffs are likely over. Hopefully it's nothing too bad that extends into next season.

 
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