RB Najee Harris, LAC (3 Viewers)

[Tau837]

In addition to the risk Najee owners carry with not having any idea when he will return, now that it seems likely he will miss perhaps multiple weeks, the additional risk of Hampton running away with the gig have dramatically increased.

I won't pretend to be a scout, but seems likely that a 1st round RB paired with a Harbaugh OL and run-first philosophy would be a relatively good wager. Harris now has to get healthy and likely wrestle the job away from Hampton.

Is 45% run plays considered run first philosophy? They were 10th highest in the league. I guess if we go relatively speaking that couldn't qualify. I remember watching them all last year thinking they were throwing a lot more than I would have expected. Maybe improving the talent in the RB room will increase the run attempts.

This is semantics, but "run first" isn't the proper term. Maybe "run heavy" is better. The splits you cited seemingly include scrambles on called passing plays. The Chargers called passing plays on ~58% of their offensive plays last season, meaning they called running plays on 42%. As you point out, they weren't among the league leaders at percentage of called running plays.

Here is another way to look at it. Dobbins was on IR for 4 games last season, weeks 13-16. Per PFF:

1. During those games, Chargers RBs averaged 14.75 rushing attempts and 2.25 targets = 17.0 opportunities per game.
2. During the other 13 regular season games with Dobbins, Chargers RBs averaged 24.2 rushing attempts and 3.2 targets = 27.4 opportunities per game.

I think #2 represents how the Chargers coaching staff wants to play when game situations, player health, etc. allow. That scales to 411 RB rushing attempts and 55 RB targets = 466 opportunities over 17 games. That is a lot of opportunity. However, the Chargers schedule will be much harder this season, which might mean they are forced into more passing than they would ideally prefer.

 

[rockaction]

I think it's really hard to take the last quarter of the season and try the find the responsible variable for a change that happened over that quarter. It could have been an evolution of a philosophy where they saw Herbert and McConkey were their best shot. I'd be awfully careful attributing any causation to a variable.

Actually, I wouldn't be careful. I just wouldn't do it. I think it's got a huge potential for error.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I think it's got a huge potential for error.

Cmon this is FBG. When has that ever stopped any of us before?

 

[rockaction]

I think it's got a huge potential for error.

Cmon this is FBG. When has that ever stopped any of us before?

Oh, I know I have before without realizing it. I just wanted people to be aware that the subtracted variable might not account for the change.

 

[Tau837]

I think it's really hard to take the last quarter of the season and try the find the responsible variable for a change that happened over that quarter. It could have been an evolution of a philosophy where they saw Herbert and McConkey were their best shot. I'd be awfully careful attributing any causation to a variable.

Actually, I wouldn't be careful. I just wouldn't do it. I think it's got a huge potential for error.

RB rushing attempts per PFR:

Week 10 - 27 (Dobbins 15)
Week 11 - 19 (Dobbins 11)
Week 12 - 16 (Dobbins 6, sprained MCL with 5 minutes remaining in 2Q)
Week 13 - 11 (Dobbins 0, IR)
Week 14 - 18 (Dobbins 0, IR)
Week 15 - 11 (Dobbins 0, IR)
Week 16 - 19 (Dobbins 0, IR)
Week 17 - 32 (Dobbins 19)
Week 18 - 30 (Dobbins 18)

Sure, there are multiple variables involved. Matchups and game situations matter, as do injuries to other players. Everyone is free to draw their own conclusions.

One takeaway for me is that the Chargers did not have as much confidence running the ball with Gus Edwards, Kimani Vidal, and Hassan Haskins as they did with J.K. Dobbins, and his absence caused them to alter their gameplans at least somewhat. As a Chargers fan who watched those rushing attempts, that makes sense to me.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Athletic’s Daniel Popper believes Najee Harris (eye) will begin the season on the non-football injury list.
While Chargers GM Joe Hortiz sounded an optimistic note on Harris playing in Week 1, The Athletic’s Chargers beat writer disagrees with that assertion. Should Harris be placed on NFI and miss the first four weeks of the season, it would put Hassan Haskins into the No. 2 role, per Popper. That should mean plenty of Omarion Hampton with Haskins mixing in — perhaps at the goal line given Haskins’ size.

Well, there it is.

Also, FWIW Haskins has looked extremely solid.

 

[Chardo1]

Harbaugh wants to be run heavy. He didn't have the personnel to accomplish that effectively. So he dumped his two RBs and used their first round pick on a RB. Then signed a free agent guard from the top running team, and another free agent RB. He now has the personnel. He intends to be run heavy.

 

[Chardo1]

The Athletic’s Daniel Popper believes Najee Harris (eye) will begin the season on the non-football injury list.
While Chargers GM Joe Hortiz sounded an optimistic note on Harris playing in Week 1, The Athletic’s Chargers beat writer disagrees with that assertion. Should Harris be placed on NFI and miss the first four weeks of the season, it would put Hassan Haskins into the No. 2 role, per Popper. That should mean plenty of Omarion Hampton with Haskins mixing in — perhaps at the goal line given Haskins’ size.

Well, there it is.

Also, FWIW Haskins has looked extremely solid.

One of Hampton's key skills is ability to power through for extra distance after contact and in tight spaces. Ideal for goal line. Haskin has two TDs in two years. They're not pulling Hampton for Haskins at the goal line.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

They're not pulling Hampton for Haskins at the goal line.

I see the thing I quoted speculated that - I do not happen to endorse that opinion.

 

[VikingFrog]

My yahoo sports app just moved him from NFI to Questionable.

 

[VikingFrog]

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[Rapoport] The #Chargers are moving RB Najee Harris to the active roster from the non-football injury list. Harris is recovering from injuries, facial and otherwise, sustained in a fireworks accident but has been working and getting ready. A good sign...

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[Rapoport] The #Chargers are moving RB Najee Harris to the active roster from the non-football injury list.Harris is recovering from injuries, facial and otherwise, sustained in a fireworks accident but has been working and getting ready. A good sign.

 

[Bronco Billy]

The Athletic’s Daniel Popper believes Najee Harris (eye) will begin the season on the non-football injury list.
While Chargers GM Joe Hortiz sounded an optimistic note on Harris playing in Week 1, The Athletic’s Chargers beat writer disagrees with that assertion. Should Harris be placed on NFI and miss the first four weeks of the season, it would put Hassan Haskins into the No. 2 role, per Popper. That should mean plenty of Omarion Hampton with Haskins mixing in — perhaps at the goal line given Haskins’ size.

Well, there it is.

Also, FWIW Haskins has looked extremely solid.

Well there it is.

Chargers listing Harris as Active

Los Angeles Chargers 2025 Player Roster | NFL.com

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Athletic’s Daniel Popper believes Najee Harris (eye) will begin the season on the non-football injury list.
While Chargers GM Joe Hortiz sounded an optimistic note on Harris playing in Week 1, The Athletic’s Chargers beat writer disagrees with that assertion. Should Harris be placed on NFI and miss the first four weeks of the season, it would put Hassan Haskins into the No. 2 role, per Popper. That should mean plenty of Omarion Hampton with Haskins mixing in — perhaps at the goal line given Haskins’ size.

Well, there it is.

Also, FWIW Haskins has looked extremely solid.

Well there it is.

Chargers listing Harris as Active

Los Angeles Chargers 2025 Player Roster | NFL.com

“Active”?

Not NFI you mean? Or are you saying he’s going to be active on game day?

 

[Bronco Billy]

The Athletic’s Daniel Popper believes Najee Harris (eye) will begin the season on the non-football injury list.
While Chargers GM Joe Hortiz sounded an optimistic note on Harris playing in Week 1, The Athletic’s Chargers beat writer disagrees with that assertion. Should Harris be placed on NFI and miss the first four weeks of the season, it would put Hassan Haskins into the No. 2 role, per Popper. That should mean plenty of Omarion Hampton with Haskins mixing in — perhaps at the goal line given Haskins’ size.

Well, there it is.

Also, FWIW Haskins has looked extremely solid.

Well there it is.

Chargers listing Harris as Active

Los Angeles Chargers 2025 Player Roster | NFL.com

“Active”?

Not NFI you mean? Or are you saying he’s going to be active on game day?

I’m saying that the Popper prediction that you posted as a fact was wrong and that Harris is in fact not on the NFI list but rather is on the active roster. It remains to be seen whether he plays week 1 or not, but he’s already 2 weeks into his conditioning as of today.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Athletic’s Daniel Popper believes Najee Harris (eye) will begin the season on the non-football injury list.
While Chargers GM Joe Hortiz sounded an optimistic note on Harris playing in Week 1, The Athletic’s Chargers beat writer disagrees with that assertion. Should Harris be placed on NFI and miss the first four weeks of the season, it would put Hassan Haskins into the No. 2 role, per Popper. That should mean plenty of Omarion Hampton with Haskins mixing in — perhaps at the goal line given Haskins’ size.

Well, there it is.

Also, FWIW Haskins has looked extremely solid.

Well there it is.

Chargers listing Harris as Active

Los Angeles Chargers 2025 Player Roster | NFL.com

“Active”?

Not NFI you mean? Or are you saying he’s going to be active on game day?

I’m saying that the Popper prediction that you posted as a fact was wrong and that Harris is in fact not on the NFI list but rather is on the active roster. It remains to be seen whether he plays week 1 or not, but he’s already 2 weeks into his conditioning as of today.

I posted it as fact?

I just posted it. Why do you insist on assigning motive to everything? You’ve been called out on that by others and I’m calling you out on it now.

I posted one person‘s opinion. That’s the beginning of the end of it. You don’t win or lose Internet points.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Harbaugh wants to be run heavy. He didn't have the personnel to accomplish that effectively. So he dumped his two RBs and used their first round pick on a RB. Then signed a free agent guard from the top running team, and another free agent RB. He now has the personnel. He intends to be run heavy.

Let's discuss this PLEASE because I have been pointing out how Harbaugh will never let Herbert throw for anything close to what he was doing the first 4 seasons

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Just in case anyone needs proof, wouldn't project Herbert for much more than about 500 tosses and then you start looking at McConkey who I think was WAY over drafted in the 2nd round
600 to almost 700 throws prior to Harbaugh and now he's one of the most overpaid starting QBs in the NFL. I still maintain Harbaugh will eventually trade him and try to get a QB on a rookie contract which allows for a pretty nice 2-3 year window where you can overload the OL/DL/DBs and make a Super Bowl run like others have done before.

This will never get reported but it's just a feeling I have and these moves kind of back that up albeit a little loosely at the moment.
Cap hits start becoming less of a burden in 2027 if they want to push off from Herbert.

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

 

[Chardo1]

I'm trying to find an example of a running back who missed all of training camp due to injury, and had any kind of success that season. I can't.

 

[Tau837]

Harbaugh wants to be run heavy. He didn't have the personnel to accomplish that effectively. So he dumped his two RBs and used their first round pick on a RB. Then signed a free agent guard from the top running team, and another free agent RB. He now has the personnel. He intends to be run heavy.

Let's discuss this PLEASE because I have been pointing out how Harbaugh will never let Herbert throw for anything close to what he was doing the first 4 seasons

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Just in case anyone needs proof, wouldn't project Herbert for much more than about 500 tosses and then you start looking at McConkey who I think was WAY over drafted in the 2nd round
600 to almost 700 throws prior to Harbaugh and now he's one of the most overpaid starting QBs in the NFL. I still maintain Harbaugh will eventually trade him and try to get a QB on a rookie contract which allows for a pretty nice 2-3 year window where you can overload the OL/DL/DBs and make a Super Bowl run like others have done before.

This will never get reported but it's just a feeling I have and these moves kind of back that up albeit a little loosely at the moment.
Cap hits start becoming less of a burden in 2027 if they want to push off from Herbert.

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

First, this is the Najee thread, not the Herbert thread. If you want to discuss Herbert, you should probably do it there.

Second, no chance the Chargers will ever trade him, unless his performance falls off a cliff. Harbaugh talks about him like he is his own son.

 

[steelwind]

I think him coming off NFI means he can practice and could be fully up to speed by week 2. Rather than missing 4 games.

Shouldn’t change Hampton vs Harris projections.

 

[tommyGunZ]

As someone who follows the Chargers closely, this is a surprise.

 

[Bronco Billy]

The Athletic’s Daniel Popper believes Najee Harris (eye) will begin the season on the non-football injury list.
While Chargers GM Joe Hortiz sounded an optimistic note on Harris playing in Week 1, The Athletic’s Chargers beat writer disagrees with that assertion. Should Harris be placed on NFI and miss the first four weeks of the season, it would put Hassan Haskins into the No. 2 role, per Popper. That should mean plenty of Omarion Hampton with Haskins mixing in — perhaps at the goal line given Haskins’ size.

Well, there it is.

Also, FWIW Haskins has looked extremely solid.

Well there it is.

Chargers listing Harris as Active

Los Angeles Chargers 2025 Player Roster | NFL.com

“Active”?

Not NFI you mean? Or are you saying he’s going to be active on game day?

I’m saying that the Popper prediction that you posted as a fact was wrong and that Harris is in fact not on the NFI list but rather is on the active roster. It remains to be seen whether he plays week 1 or not, but he’s already 2 weeks into his conditioning as of today.

I posted it as fact?

I just posted it. Why do you insist on assigning motive to everything? You’ve been called out on that by others and I’m calling you out on it now.

I posted one person‘s opinion. That’s the beginning of the end of it. You don’t win or lose Internet points.

Okay, got it. You aren’t going to own anything. Noted. I’ll avoid future conversations.

 

[Proteus]

Well just plug me in just like I was Najee Harris?
You're eating crazy cheese like you would think I'm from Paris?

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The Athletic’s Daniel Popper believes Najee Harris (eye) will begin the season on the non-football injury list.
While Chargers GM Joe Hortiz sounded an optimistic note on Harris playing in Week 1, The Athletic’s Chargers beat writer disagrees with that assertion. Should Harris be placed on NFI and miss the first four weeks of the season, it would put Hassan Haskins into the No. 2 role, per Popper. That should mean plenty of Omarion Hampton with Haskins mixing in — perhaps at the goal line given Haskins’ size.

Well, there it is.

Also, FWIW Haskins has looked extremely solid.

Well there it is.

Chargers listing Harris as Active

Los Angeles Chargers 2025 Player Roster | NFL.com

“Active”?

Not NFI you mean? Or are you saying he’s going to be active on game day?

I’m saying that the Popper prediction that you posted as a fact was wrong and that Harris is in fact not on the NFI list but rather is on the active roster. It remains to be seen whether he plays week 1 or not, but he’s already 2 weeks into his conditioning as of today.

I posted it as fact?

I just posted it. Why do you insist on assigning motive to everything? You’ve been called out on that by others and I’m calling you out on it now.

I posted one person‘s opinion. That’s the beginning of the end of it. You don’t win or lose Internet points.

Okay, got it. You aren’t going to own anything. Noted. I’ll avoid future conversations.

What exactly am I supposed to own? I shared a beat writer’s post.

Are you 12?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Harbaugh wants to be run heavy. He didn't have the personnel to accomplish that effectively. So he dumped his two RBs and used their first round pick on a RB. Then signed a free agent guard from the top running team, and another free agent RB. He now has the personnel. He intends to be run heavy.

Let's discuss this PLEASE because I have been pointing out how Harbaugh will never let Herbert throw for anything close to what he was doing the first 4 seasons

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Just in case anyone needs proof, wouldn't project Herbert for much more than about 500 tosses and then you start looking at McConkey who I think was WAY over drafted in the 2nd round
600 to almost 700 throws prior to Harbaugh and now he's one of the most overpaid starting QBs in the NFL. I still maintain Harbaugh will eventually trade him and try to get a QB on a rookie contract which allows for a pretty nice 2-3 year window where you can overload the OL/DL/DBs and make a Super Bowl run like others have done before.

This will never get reported but it's just a feeling I have and these moves kind of back that up albeit a little loosely at the moment.
Cap hits start becoming less of a burden in 2027 if they want to push off from Herbert.

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

First, this is the Najee thread, not the Herbert thread. If you want to discuss Herbert, you should probably do it there.

Second, no chance the Chargers will ever trade him, unless his performance falls off a cliff. Harbaugh talks about him like he is his own son.

It connects with Harris and I also think people are misguided about Herbert's value in FF
If he continues to nuder his son/QB as I pointed out last season and people said wait until year 2, well here we are

This is like when JJ came in after Shula and started limiting everything Marino was allowed to do
Why do you need to pay Herbert $250M if you are going to go with a run heavy scheme and that's what I was responding to more than anything

Seems like a huge waste of money...and if Herbert was sub.500 prior to Harbaugh and then 11-7 last year?
How good is Herbert really and why have all that money locked up in a guy that isn't a prolific passer or being given the opportunity to showcase it?

You don't have to answer of those questions, it's just an observation from someone who doesn't root for the team which you and others clearly do and are a little biased
Harbaugh would like to hide the football in his RB's forearm every week and throw 7 passes and that's gonna limit the success of the Bolts

Yes I'm exaggerating but trying to make a point.
If Harris is cleared to play Week 1, he just became a major value in recent drafts and Hampton possibly went a little too high although I think they both could clear 200 carries easily

272-255-263 the last 3 seasons for Harris, doubt he gets quite that many
Harris had 76 catches his rookie season, usually is involved in the passing game
200 carries, 850-900 yds, I don't know if he can squeeze 30 catches out of this run heavy offense
Usually he gets at least a half dozen TDs

Cheers!

 

[TheWinz]

I'm as shocked as anyone that Najee was activated from the NFL list. I have been saying he is blind and will never play again.
Will he dress for week 1? No
Will be be on the sidelines in street clothes and dark glasses? Yes
Will he take off said dark glasses at any time to allow the public to view his eye? No

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I'm as shocked as anyone that Najee was activated from the NFL list. I have been saying he is blind and will never play again.
Will he dress for week 1? No
Will be be on the sidelines in street clothes and dark glasses? Yes
Will he take off said dark glasses at any time to allow the public to view his eye? No

Follow up question: will he have a seeing eye dog?

Follow up to the follow up question: if the seeing eye dog has a fireworks accident, is it possible that Najee’s seeing eye dog will have a seeing eye dog?

 

[joey]

I'm as shocked as anyone that Najee was activated from the NFL list. I have been saying he is blind and will never play again.
Will he dress for week 1? No
Will be be on the sidelines in street clothes and dark glasses? Yes
Will he take off said dark glasses at any time to allow the public to view his eye? No

Follow up question: will he have a seeing eye dog?

Follow up to the follow up question: if the seeing eye dog has a fireworks accident, is it possible that Najee’s seeing eye dog will have a seeing eye dog?

That’s just silly.

A seeing eye dog would have a seeing eye CAT….which would in turn have a seeing eye MOUSE…and so on.

It’s like the opposite of the old lady who swallowed the fly.

 

[TheWinz]

I'm befuddled! Been telling @Bronco Billy he's insane for thinking Najee is anywhere near ready to step onto the field. Then I look at LAC's depth chart after cutdowns, and they are only keeping RB's Hampton, Harris, Haskins, and FB Matlock? That, my friends, is a glowing endorsement that Najee is way readier than I would've ever thought. If Najee suits up in the first 2 games, I will eat crow and bow down to @Bronco Billy

Glad I grabbed Najee in the only league I took Omarion.

 

[Tau837]

I'm befuddled! Been telling @Bronco Billy he's insane for thinking Najee is anywhere near ready to step onto the field. Then I look at LAC's depth chart after cutdowns, and they are only keeping RB's Hampton, Harris, Haskins, and FB Matlock? That, my friends, is a glowing endorsement that Najee is way readier than I would've ever thought. If Najee suits up in the first 2 games, I will eat crow and bow down to @Bronco Billy

Glad I grabbed Najee in the only league I took Omarion.

Not necessarily. They can elevate a RB from the practice squad for any given week, including week 1. Some of what they did for this initial roster had to do with waiting out initial waivers before waiving some players at higher risk for getting claimed.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Haskins is a Harbaugh favorite. UoM connection, claimed him.

• "He'd be one of the poster people for that. Top core special teams player. You need a good run-Hassan, right there willing-ready, willing and able to give it to you. Football player," said Harbaugh, as reported by Bolt Beat.
  
  
• Harbaugh noted, "He's always been one of those guys that just ever since I met him... He's a really good pass protector and a game changer, tone setter on special teams as well," according to Sports Illustrated.

Also from Bolt Beat:

Even with the uncertainty of the Najee Harris situation hanging over the team, Chargers HC Jim Harbaugh makes one thing clear-Hassan Haskins roster spot is safe.​

Haskins notably did not play in last week's game vs. the Rams. He had no reported injury or missed practices prior to the game. Evidently, the Chargers coaching staff had seen enough. We'll see whether or not he plays this week, but LA's coaching staff essentially narrowed down a running back competition for the possible final RB roster spot down to the aforementioned Vidal and Sanders.

I’m thinking Najee is back before a month, and they have enough depth in Haskins & whomever’s left of Sanders & Vidal.



Like @TheWinz, I’m happy to eat crow if Najee starts week 1, but at the moment I don’t know if we can divine anything from their depth chart.

 

[TheWinz]

I'm befuddled! Been telling @Bronco Billy he's insane for thinking Najee is anywhere near ready to step onto the field. Then I look at LAC's depth chart after cutdowns, and they are only keeping RB's Hampton, Harris, Haskins, and FB Matlock? That, my friends, is a glowing endorsement that Najee is way readier than I would've ever thought. If Najee suits up in the first 2 games, I will eat crow and bow down to @Bronco Billy

Glad I grabbed Najee in the only league I took Omarion.

Not necessarily. They can elevate a RB from the practice squad for any given week, including week 1. Some of what they did for this initial roster had to do with waiting out initial waivers before waiving some players at higher risk for getting claimed.

Well, yes, but I was thinking Najee was basically toast for the year, so it shocked me more than anyone to see the current depth chart. I was SURE Najee had absolutely no chance to get on the field for months, but now a game or two seems feasible.

 

[elmanx]

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

You wouldn't trade Tua for Herbert straight up?

 

[Pip's Invitation]

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

You wouldn't trade Tua for Herbert straight up?

Herbert was sub-.500 before last year because his previous coaches were idiots.

 

[Tau837]

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

You wouldn't trade Tua for Herbert straight up?

Herbert was sub-.500 before last year because his previous coaches were idiots.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

You wouldn't trade Tua for Herbert straight up?

-Of course, Herbert much more durable and built to withstand the modern NFL
I was just making a comment on his W-L %, not what folks might think it is.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

You wouldn't trade Tua for Herbert straight up?

Herbert was sub-.500 before last year because his previous coaches were idiots.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

You wouldn't trade Tua for Herbert straight up?

Herbert was sub-.500 before last year because his previous coaches were idiots.

 

[rockaction]

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

You wouldn't trade Tua for Herbert straight up?

Herbert was sub-.500 before last year because his previous coaches were idiots.

Yeah, I'm just gonna add to the comment that I'm really tired of the "Herbert isn't clutch/didn't win his playoff game" type of argument. Herbert is now saddled with his second coaching dolt and if I'm running the Jets I'm offering Harbaugh and Roman my running back room, Quinnen Williams, Garrett Wilson, my owner's two children and their Madden rig, and anything else not nailed down that that dolt wants for Herbert and we're then throwing the ball 65% of the ****ing time.

And winning championships that way.

 

[Pip's Invitation]

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

You wouldn't trade Tua for Herbert straight up?

Herbert was sub-.500 before last year because his previous coaches were idiots.

Yeah, I'm just gonna add to the comment that I'm really tired of the "Herbert isn't clutch/didn't win his playoff game" type of argument. Herbert is now saddled with his second coaching dolt and if I'm running the Jets I'm offering Harbaugh my running back room, Quinnen Williams, Garrett Wilson, and my owner's two children and their Madden rig and anything else that dolt wants for Herbert and we're then throwing the ball 65% of the ****ing time.

And winning championships that way.

Third. He had Anthony Lynn before Staley.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

41-38 as a starter, he's a .500 QB
Tua is 38-24 as a starter and was taken 1 spot ahead of Herbert
I just wanted to see what @Todem is gonna say
He likes to wear Herbert's jersey into Hard Rock to mock Grier and Ross for taking Tua over him

You wouldn't trade Tua for Herbert straight up?

Herbert was sub-.500 before last year because his previous coaches were idiots.

Yeah, I'm just gonna add to the comment that I'm really tired of the "Herbert isn't clutch/didn't win his playoff game" type of argument. Herbert is now saddled with his second coaching dolt and if I'm running the Jets I'm offering Harbaugh my running back room, Quinnen Williams, Garrett Wilson, and my owner's two children and their Madden rig and anything else that dolt wants for Herbert and we're then throwing the ball 65% of the ****ing time.

And winning championships that way.

Third. He had Anthony Lynn before Staley.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Chargers coach Jim Harbaugh said there’s a “possibility” Najee Harris (eye) plays in Week 1.
That stops short of guaranteeing Harris will be available. We’re likely going to have to monitor practice reports for Harris next week, but there’s a chance he’ll step in and split carries with Omarion Hampton in Week 1. We’ve yet to see any reports of Harris practicing in full, though Harbaugh says Harris will practice this week.

It’s possible.

 

[Tau837]

Chargers coach Jim Harbaugh said there’s a “possibility” Najee Harris (eye) plays in Week 1.
That stops short of guaranteeing Harris will be available. We’re likely going to have to monitor practice reports for Harris next week, but there’s a chance he’ll step in and split carries with Omarion Hampton in Week 1. We’ve yet to see any reports of Harris practicing in full, though Harbaugh says Harris will practice this week.

It’s possible.

My guess is they will elevate Miller-Hines and/or Vidal from the practice squad for game 1. They will probably give Hampton and Haskins all of the RB snaps, but they will need Vidal in case either of them gets hurt and Harris isn't really ready yet.

 

[Faust]

Chargers RB Najee Harris practices in pads for first time

 

[greenmountaingoat]

If Najee is the 1a people are going to lose their minds. I’m not suggesting that it’s likely (yet). I have zero shares of either but it’ll be popcorn time for me if that’s how it shakes out.

 

[VikingFrog]

If Najee is the 1a people are going to lose their minds. I’m not suggesting that it’s likely (yet). I have zero shares of either but it’ll be popcorn time for me if that’s how it shakes out.

Got Najee in the 12th round of a 12 teamer a few weeks ago.

I would allow this.

I wonder where his ADP will shift to with some of this recent news… which is positive but still a bit cryptic.

 

[Ilov80s]

If Najee is the 1a people are going to lose their minds. I’m not suggesting that it’s likely (yet). I have zero shares of either but it’ll be popcorn time for me if that’s how it shakes out.

If you remember Gibbs and Jonathan Taylors rookie years they were slowly given more work as the season went on and created a lot of early season fantasy regeret. I could see that happening here as well.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Can anyone share any auction prices (including budget) that they have seen?

 

[Zow]

If it isn’t an attorney just stop listening and put it in the toilet after using it properly.

I was bored last night and started watching Blade II.

When they go to see the elder vampire, and his familiar starts laying it out for Blade, Snipes asks, “you’re human?” and the dude says, “barely, I’m a lawyer.”

I’d missed that when I saw the movie in the theater. Solid line.

 

[Ironriver]

I got him for $2 last night in a $100 entry auction with $200 budget. His price will probably go up now that he is in pads.

 

[Chardo1]

Good to see him back, but I fully expect him to be little more than a handcuff. The talent difference is significant. Hampton is going to set the bar at a level Najee just cannot reach. Especially if he has the backfield all to himself week 1. This is going to be a 2 to 1 split in carries on a normal day.