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RB Najee Harris, PIT (3 Viewers)

What makes sense to me is for Warren owners to hope like hell they don't resign Harris and look more forward to 2025 than 2024. They've already declined Harris' 5th year option, but that doesn't mean they won't sign him again. I do think Warren and Harris will be fantasy relevant in 2024, but both will cap each other's fantasy upside this year.....again.... As a Warren stakeholder that is what I think.
 
Warren will never be a bell-cow. He's a decent RB2 at best in PPR. Najee staying or leaving won't change that

Najee is one of the better values this year in redraft and dynasty. He has a high floor and would have a high ceiling if Warren were to get hurt.
One thing of note with both Najee and Warren is the Steelers added Cordarrelle Patterson, who could certainly keep it a 2 RB committee if Najee or Warren go down, especially since he's clearly a guy comfortable in Arthur Smith's offense. I don't think there is upside beyond RB2 for Warren or Najee.
How old is Patterson now?
33, but that's not stopping him from getting 10 touches a week if called upon. He's only a year removed from averaging 4.8 YPC and having 800 yards and 8 TDs, with this play caller.
That cliff is so close I bet he can see over it.
He's clearly there to be the great dude he is and teach others the ropes. In minicamp, he was already in the mentor role. Tomlin already appreciates him but give it time and he'll love the guy. He could be the Steelers RB coach or ST coach or somesuch next year.

He's always been a big dude that is hard to stop for a yard or two. I don't expect Arthur to have a GL back per se, but there's gonna be times Tomlin tells him to put the big fella in.

That'll hurt the other backs but his tutelage will also help them
 
Warren will never be a bell-cow. He's a decent RB2 at best in PPR. Najee staying or leaving won't change that

Najee is one of the better values this year in redraft and dynasty. He has a high floor and would have a high ceiling if Warren were to get hurt.
One thing of note with both Najee and Warren is the Steelers added Cordarrelle Patterson, who could certainly keep it a 2 RB committee if Najee or Warren go down, especially since he's clearly a guy comfortable in Arthur Smith's offense. I don't think there is upside beyond RB2 for Warren or Najee.
How old is Patterson now?
33, but that's not stopping him from getting 10 touches a week if called upon. He's only a year removed from averaging 4.8 YPC and having 800 yards and 8 TDs, with this play caller.
That cliff is so close I bet he can see over it.
He's clearly there to be the great dude he is and teach others the ropes. In minicamp, he was already in the mentor role. Tomlin already appreciates him but give it time and he'll love the guy. He could be the Steelers RB coach or ST coach or somesuch next year.

He's always been a big dude that is hard to stop for a yard or two. I don't expect Arthur to have a GL back per se, but there's gonna be times Tomlin tells him to put the big fella in.

That'll hurt the other backs but his tutelage will also help them
I don't see Patterson having much of a fantasy impact to Warren or Harris and certainly not for himself.
 
Warren will never be a bell-cow. He's a decent RB2 at best in PPR. Najee staying or leaving won't change that

Najee is one of the better values this year in redraft and dynasty. He has a high floor and would have a high ceiling if Warren were to get hurt.
One thing of note with both Najee and Warren is the Steelers added Cordarrelle Patterson, who could certainly keep it a 2 RB committee if Najee or Warren go down, especially since he's clearly a guy comfortable in Arthur Smith's offense. I don't think there is upside beyond RB2 for Warren or Najee.
How old is Patterson now?
33, but that's not stopping him from getting 10 touches a week if called upon. He's only a year removed from averaging 4.8 YPC and having 800 yards and 8 TDs, with this play caller.
That cliff is so close I bet he can see over it.
He's clearly there to be the great dude he is and teach others the ropes. In minicamp, he was already in the mentor role. Tomlin already appreciates him but give it time and he'll love the guy. He could be the Steelers RB coach or ST coach or somesuch next year.

He's always been a big dude that is hard to stop for a yard or two. I don't expect Arthur to have a GL back per se, but there's gonna be times Tomlin tells him to put the big fella in.

That'll hurt the other backs but his tutelage will also help them
I don't see Patterson having much of a fantasy impact to Warren or Harris and certainly not for himself.
I agree
 
Warren will never be a bell-cow. He's a decent RB2 at best in PPR. Najee staying or leaving won't change that

Najee is one of the better values this year in redraft and dynasty. He has a high floor and would have a high ceiling if Warren were to get hurt.
One thing of note with both Najee and Warren is the Steelers added Cordarrelle Patterson, who could certainly keep it a 2 RB committee if Najee or Warren go down, especially since he's clearly a guy comfortable in Arthur Smith's offense. I don't think there is upside beyond RB2 for Warren or Najee.
How old is Patterson now?
33, but that's not stopping him from getting 10 touches a week if called upon. He's only a year removed from averaging 4.8 YPC and having 800 yards and 8 TDs, with this play caller.
That cliff is so close I bet he can see over it.
He's clearly there to be the great dude he is and teach others the ropes. In minicamp, he was already in the mentor role. Tomlin already appreciates him but give it time and he'll love the guy. He could be the Steelers RB coach or ST coach or somesuch next year.

He's always been a big dude that is hard to stop for a yard or two. I don't expect Arthur to have a GL back per se, but there's gonna be times Tomlin tells him to put the big fella in.

That'll hurt the other backs but his tutelage will also help them
I don't see Patterson having much of a fantasy impact to Warren or Harris and certainly not for himself.
Agree. Patterson will be lucky to handle 50 touches. This backfield will be once again ruled by Najee Warren.
 
Warren will never be a bell-cow. He's a decent RB2 at best in PPR. Najee staying or leaving won't change that

Najee is one of the better values this year in redraft and dynasty. He has a high floor and would have a high ceiling if Warren were to get hurt.
One thing of note with both Najee and Warren is the Steelers added Cordarrelle Patterson, who could certainly keep it a 2 RB committee if Najee or Warren go down, especially since he's clearly a guy comfortable in Arthur Smith's offense. I don't think there is upside beyond RB2 for Warren or Najee.
How old is Patterson now?
33, but that's not stopping him from getting 10 touches a week if called upon. He's only a year removed from averaging 4.8 YPC and having 800 yards and 8 TDs, with this play caller.
That cliff is so close I bet he can see over it.
He's clearly there to be the great dude he is and teach others the ropes. In minicamp, he was already in the mentor role. Tomlin already appreciates him but give it time and he'll love the guy. He could be the Steelers RB coach or ST coach or somesuch next year.

He's always been a big dude that is hard to stop for a yard or two. I don't expect Arthur to have a GL back per se, but there's gonna be times Tomlin tells him to put the big fella in.

That'll hurt the other backs but his tutelage will also help them
I don't see Patterson having much of a fantasy impact to Warren or Harris and certainly not for himself.
Agree. Patterson will be lucky to handle 50 touches. This backfield will be once again ruled by Najee Warren.
Love child?
 
Warren will never be a bell-cow. He's a decent RB2 at best in PPR. Najee staying or leaving won't change that

Najee is one of the better values this year in redraft and dynasty. He has a high floor and would have a high ceiling if Warren were to get hurt.
One thing of note with both Najee and Warren is the Steelers added Cordarrelle Patterson, who could certainly keep it a 2 RB committee if Najee or Warren go down, especially since he's clearly a guy comfortable in Arthur Smith's offense. I don't think there is upside beyond RB2 for Warren or Najee.
How old is Patterson now?
33, but that's not stopping him from getting 10 touches a week if called upon. He's only a year removed from averaging 4.8 YPC and having 800 yards and 8 TDs, with this play caller.
That cliff is so close I bet he can see over it.
He's clearly there to be the great dude he is and teach others the ropes. In minicamp, he was already in the mentor role. Tomlin already appreciates him but give it time and he'll love the guy. He could be the Steelers RB coach or ST coach or somesuch next year.

He's always been a big dude that is hard to stop for a yard or two. I don't expect Arthur to have a GL back per se, but there's gonna be times Tomlin tells him to put the big fella in.

That'll hurt the other backs but his tutelage will also help them
I don't see Patterson having much of a fantasy impact to Warren or Harris and certainly not for himself.
Agree. Patterson will be lucky to handle 50 touches. This backfield will be once again ruled by Najee Warren.
Love child?
It was either that or Jaylen Harris.
 
What makes sense to me is for Warren owners to hope like hell they don't resign Harris and look more forward to 2025 than 2024. They've already declined Harris' 5th year option, but that doesn't mean they won't sign him again. I do think Warren and Harris will be fantasy relevant in 2024, but both will cap each other's fantasy upside this year.....again.... As a Warren stakeholder that is what I think.
I thought it appropriate to quote myself on this one, because I mentioned the possibility of them resigning Harris. I hope they don't, as do all other Warren owners, bet be prepared that they do. I want to see it be Warren's backfield in 2025, but that may not happen. Now watch them not resign Harris and draft Henderson or Judkins next April. Navigating the NFL RB muddy waters is painful isn't it?

"Pittsburgh Steelers RB Najee Harris could still land a long-term extension, according to general manager Omar Khan.

Our view: While the Steelers didn't think Harris was valuable enough to pick up the fifth-year option on his rookie contract, nobody should be surprised they still might want him on the team in 2025 and beyond. Khan explained that Harris "knows that just because we're going into this with one year left, that doesn't prevent us from doing business with him long term." As Profootballtalk.com pointed out, NFL teams are increasingly deciding that running backs aren't worth big contracts, but Harris may still find that the Steelers are willing to offer him more than anyone else. Either way, fantasy managers should expect Harris to handle his usual role alongside Jaylen Warren through 2024."

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Warren owners will be disappointed he's not built to be a 3 down back. Najee outperformed him down the stretch of last season. Najee will be motivated this upcoming season. He's lost weight, he's playing for a new contract, better offensive line, better QB, and better coaches this upcoming season.
 
Warren owners will be disappointed he's not built to be a 3 down back. Najee outperformed him down the stretch of last season. Najee will be motivated this upcoming season. He's lost weight, he's playing for a new contract, better offensive line, better QB, and better coaches this upcoming season.
I wouldn't be that sure of myself when the name is Najee Harris. In 2023 he had 8 games under 4 yards per carry, with 5 of them under 3 yards per carry. In 2024 he may not get the chance to recover down the stretch.
 
Your forgetting the anemic play calling of oh Canada that resulted in stacked box. You should really be looking at his stats down the stretch with Mason. Compare Najee and Warren with Mason. Warren didn't separate himself at all
 
Your forgetting the anemic play calling of oh Canada that resulted in stacked box. You should really be looking at his stats down the stretch with Mason. Compare Najee and Warren with Mason. Warren didn't separate himself at all
I want to look at his body of work, especially with new coaches coming in. I'm just saying that if he sucks as much as he did in 8 games last year, he may not get the chance to recover down the stretch. Nothing is set in stone if that happens again to Harris. If it doesn't, then good for Harris, but I wouldn't be too head strong when it comes to Najee Harris.
 
Warren owners will be disappointed he's not built to be a 3 down back. Najee outperformed him down the stretch of last season. Najee will be motivated this upcoming season. He's lost weight, he's playing for a new contract, better offensive line, better QB, and better coaches this upcoming season.
I wouldn't be that sure of myself when the name is Najee Harris. In 2023 he had 8 games under 4 yards per carry, with 5 of them under 3 yards per carry. In 2024 he may not get the chance to recover down the stretch.
Najee looked slow and not as powerful early on last year. It was obvious to me from a couch. Then we learn mid October he had removed a steel plate from his shoe. Plate was in there to help a foot injury heal.

Since then he showed more spring in his step and was running stronger as the weather got worse. Proved again he is tough as steel. Very capable of being a 3-down feature back. Coach T loves him.

That said, Warren is more dynamic and breaks more tackles. It’s frustrating as a fan knowing Warren consistently outperforms Najee and is stuck taking a back seat. My hope is Arthur Smith has enough power to utilize players who produce in his packages. Warren will make AS look better, so why wouldn’t he get more touches?
 
better offensive line

MUCH improved OL
  • T Troy Fautanu (20th pick)
  • C Zach C Zach Frazier (51st)
  • G Mason McCormick (119)
That is a great foundation; they’ll be a Top Ten OL for at least the next four years IMO.
You're telling me 3 rookies equates to a much improved (top 10) OL? Im not buying that for a second. That unit, assuming the rookie start, will struggle all season. Maybe, maybe, they will be cohesive and become a top 10 until by 2025 but I highly doubt it'll happen in 24.
 
better offensive line

MUCH improved OL
  • T Troy Fautanu (20th pick)
  • C Zach C Zach Frazier (51st)
  • G Mason McCormick (119)
That is a great foundation; they’ll be a Top Ten OL for at least the next four years IMO.
You're telling me 3 rookies equates to a much improved (top 10) OL? Im not buying that for a second. That unit, assuming the rookie start, will struggle all season. Maybe, maybe, they will be cohesive and become a top 10 until by 2025 but I highly doubt it'll happen in 24.
As much talent as these guys have, you’re absolutely right.
They might do well, but expecting a top 10 unit is entirely too far a reach.
 
Your forgetting the anemic play calling of oh Canada that resulted in stacked box. You should really be looking at his stats down the stretch with Mason. Compare Najee and Warren with Mason. Warren didn't separate himself at all
I want to look at his body of work, especially with new coaches coming in. I'm just saying that if he sucks as much as he did in 8 games last year, he may not get the chance to recover down the stretch. Nothing is set in stone if that happens again to Harris. If it doesn't, then good for Harris, but I wouldn't be too head strong when it comes to Najee Harris.
I think with either Russell or fields, both backs will look a lot better than last year.
Could very easily be a top 5 duo.
 
RBs need to collectively bargain a shorter rookie contract. Their average years of service is lower than any other position by quite a bit. So much so that only a handful are ever going to get a meaningful second contract going forward. It's not just Najee(and I am not even saying the Steelers are making a mistake, I think they made the right decision given the climate), all RBs are getting the short end of the stick in the NFL today.
 
As for projections for this year, I think Najee and Warren will continue to split quite a bit and while it will help both of them to stay healthy, neither of their numbers are likely to be great. Good for the Steelers, not great for fantasy.
 
As for projections for this year, I think Najee and Warren will continue to split quite a bit and while it will help both of them to stay healthy, neither of their numbers are likely to be great. Good for the Steelers, not great for fantasy.
That's a given for 2024 IMO, but the big question is 2025.
 
As for projections for this year, I think Najee and Warren will continue to split quite a bit and while it will help both of them to stay healthy, neither of their numbers are likely to be great. Good for the Steelers, not great for fantasy.
That's a given for 2024 IMO, but the big question is 2025.

No one is going to be the bell cow, not now, not in 2025. If Najee is gone, they'll bring someone in and maybe Warren takes the slightly larger role.
 
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better offensive line

MUCH improved OL
  • T Troy Fautanu (20th pick)
  • C Zach C Zach Frazier (51st)
  • G Mason McCormick (119)
That is a great foundation; they’ll be a Top Ten OL for at least the next four years IMO.
I'd put them in the top 5 run blocking teams in the NFL which is pertinent to this discussion.

Pass blocking the bigger weakness which pushes them down the list, but the run blocking should be tremendous.
 
As for projections for this year, I think Najee and Warren will continue to split quite a bit and while it will help both of them to stay healthy, neither of their numbers are likely to be great. Good for the Steelers, not great for fantasy.
That's a given for 2024 IMO, but the big question is 2025.

No one is going to be the bell cow, not now, not in 2025. If Najee is gone, they'll bring someone in and maybe Warren takes the slightly larger role.
Yeah, I've said previously, watch them draft either Henderson or Judkiins next April.
 
Daijun Edwards is being compared to Warren. I never heard of him until recently. Does he even have a real chance to make the roster?
 
And as for 2024, just took him at 90 overall in the 8th round. I like him, don't love him, but hard to pass on him at this stage. Underdog draft, start 3 wrs, so wrs get pushed up.
 
better offensive line

MUCH improved OL
  • T Troy Fautanu (20th pick)
  • C Zach C Zach Frazier (51st)
  • G Mason McCormick (119)
That is a great foundation; they’ll be a Top Ten OL for at least the next four years IMO.
yes, probably. but it may be a full year (or maybe two) until this line comes close to realizing their potential. I think Fautanu improves them immediately. the others likely dont perform at a high level until next season. of course, that is my opinion. Frazier was taken at 51 but some scouting reports had him as a later pick than this. McCormick wont likely be a starter this year but may be able to give some quality starts in a year or two.
 
Daijun Edwards is being compared to Warren. I never heard of him until recently. Does he even have a real chance to make the roster?

1.85 RAS - by far lowest of any RB in the class. Was stuck behind D’Andre Swift and Zamir White first 2 years, split the last 2 years with Kenny McIntosh and Kendall Milton. He’s undersized, slow & there were always 6-8 guys more elusive than him in Athens.

Decent in pass pro and was a good receiver as a senior. 4-phase STer at Georgia so he might make the Practice Squad.
 
Brooke Pryor
Najee Harris, speaking for the first time since the team declined his fifth year option, said the Steelers told him they were declining because “they didn’t know which direction the offense is headed.”
 
Don't see much interest in this guy.

Warren banged up, Arthur Smith offense.

QB situation troubling potentially, but still, Harris ADP is 70-80s. You could potentially get both Harris and Warren on the turn together.

All that said, I don't know what to make of the Steelers this year.
 
The offense was dreadful last year and he got 1000 and 8. The new OC seems to me will run the ball more, not less. Hard to see Najee get less than 1000 and 7 barring injury, and he could eat way more than that.

Warren will get his too, but I'm a buyer at Najees ADP.
 
@32BeatWriters
“For years, Najee Harris ran behind offensive lines that were inconsistent at best and poor in many situations. That would be the defense of Harris’ slow starts. But now he’s in perhaps the best situation a running back could ask for entering a contract year, with an offense that features a young but talented group of high-round line draft picks and, more importantly, a coordinator committed to running the football.”

@MikeDeFabo

nytimes.com/athletic/57341…
 
@32BeatWriters
“For years, Najee Harris ran behind offensive lines that were inconsistent at best and poor in many situations. That would be the defense of Harris’ slow starts. But now he’s in perhaps the best situation a running back could ask for entering a contract year, with an offense that features a young but talented group of high-round line draft picks and, more importantly, a coordinator committed to running the football.”

@MikeDeFabo

nytimes.com/athletic/57341…
Let's hope
 
I'm hopeful, but in the back of my mind I keep thinking, of Warren, Patterson and potentially Fields vulturing touches and/or tds
I don't think Arthur Smith can give up on CPatt. Or annoying anyone who owns a piece of his backfield. He's on some kind of odd mission.
 
The Steelers declined his 5th year option and have stated they will not be extending Harris. I do not see the Steelers as SB contenders, why wouldn’t they just trade the guy? Maybe no interest but Dallas seems like a perfect fit. I think Najee is a little underrated. He has dealt with a terrible oline and subpar play at the QB position, but still has been over a 1000 yards the first three years of his career. He also have proven to be a good pass catcher. Just odd how they basically have said “we are done with you” and have (not publicly anyway) made any attempt to move him on his final year of contract.
 
The Steelers declined his 5th year option and have stated they will not be extending Harris. I do not see the Steelers as SB contenders, why wouldn’t they just trade the guy? Maybe no interest but Dallas seems like a perfect fit. I think Najee is a little underrated. He has dealt with a terrible oline and subpar play at the QB position, but still has been over a 1000 yards the first three years of his career. He also have proven to be a good pass catcher. Just odd how they basically have said “we are done with you” and have (not publicly anyway) made any attempt to move him on his final year of contract.
I had only heard no 5th year option. Do you have a link saying they wouldn’t resign him?
 
The Steelers declined his 5th year option and have stated they will not be extending Harris.
Where have you heard this? I know they didn’t pick up his 5th but I was under the impression they admitted it was possible he would be re-signed after the year. I was also under the impression there was uncertainty how he’d do in the new scheme, thus the “wait and see” approach.
 
The Steelers declined his 5th year option and have stated they will not be extending Harris. I do not see the Steelers as SB contenders, why wouldn’t they just trade the guy? Maybe no interest but Dallas seems like a perfect fit. I think Najee is a little underrated. He has dealt with a terrible oline and subpar play at the QB position, but still has been over a 1000 yards the first three years of his career. He also have proven to be a good pass catcher. Just odd how they basically have said “we are done with you” and have (not publicly anyway) made any attempt to move him on his final year of contract.
I had only heard no 5th year option. Do you have a link saying they wouldn’t resign him?
I read the headline, so maybe fake news….reported by an “insider” LINK
 

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