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Never let the facts get in the way of a good story man... guys love to put on their tin foil hats.
Now this was released.
This is exactly where I am. If Zeke got suspended, so will Judkins. Plus he's a Brown and I assume everything they do turns into disaster.
IDK, super sus IMO; then why decline to prosecute
To be accurate this was not just released. It was released 2 days ago and I posted it here.
www.sbnation.com
I guess that beats traded him for a 2026 2nd and Skatteboo.
Whether intentional or not, I am sure the league will make a biased ruling due to the team he is on.
I was aligned on this thinking. He went 1.12 after I had flipped with the 1.11 owner.
I was aligned on this thinking. He went 1.12 after I had flipped with the 1.11 owner.
This was first weekend in August. I’d expect he goes top-5 now even in superflex.
We're definitely in a different time. However you want to describe it - this is 8 years after Zeke's situation and alot has happened since his suspension.
people keeping pointing to the Zeke case so lets review
Ezekiel Elliott’s suspension and appeal, explained
Here’s everything you need to know about what led to Elliott’s suspension.
The Zeke allegations were so close to the Ray Rice incident that YES, I'm sure the NFL felt that no matter what they had to do something to Zeke and it would be up to Zeke to prove his innocence instead of the NFL proving his guilt. Even hiccups in her stories and text messages where she told her friends to collaborate with her; even hiring an agreed 3rd party person to review the information weren't enough for the NFL to let Zeke walk and they decided to swing their hammer and made an example here. Now we will never know what the NFL found with its independent investigation but they claim it was enough for them to ignore the 3rd party and went with the 6 games... IMO unless what they dug up was bad the NFLPA should of declared strike that day.
As for Judkins, its a different day and I doubt there is as much pressure to hang the player out to dry as fast. 1st and main hurdle is getting signed by the Browns who we are sure is trying to nickel and dime him even though the charges are dropped... I think we don't hear much about suspension until mid-season especially if Judkins chooses to fight it.
I would have taken him at 2.1. I had prioritized Burden/Golden given the legal situation with Judkins and the needs of my team being desperate for a WR. I had them all as basically equal, but I wanted WR first/more I guess you could say. I also misread the intent of the guy when he dropped back at 11 to 12. I thought I was getting Judkins at 2.1 regardless.I was aligned on this thinking. He went 1.12 after I had flipped with the 1.11 owner.
This was first weekend in August. I’d expect he goes top-5 now even in superflex.
So... you didn't want him?
We're definitely in a different time. However you want to describe it - this is 8 years after Zeke's situation and alot has happened since his suspension.
people keeping pointing to the Zeke case so lets review
Ezekiel Elliott’s suspension and appeal, explained
Here’s everything you need to know about what led to Elliott’s suspension.
The Zeke allegations were so close to the Ray Rice incident that YES, I'm sure the NFL felt that no matter what they had to do something to Zeke and it would be up to Zeke to prove his innocence instead of the NFL proving his guilt. Even hiccups in her stories and text messages where she told her friends to collaborate with her; even hiring an agreed 3rd party person to review the information weren't enough for the NFL to let Zeke walk and they decided to swing their hammer and made an example here. Now we will never know what the NFL found with its independent investigation but they claim it was enough for them to ignore the 3rd party and went with the 6 games... IMO unless what they dug up was bad the NFLPA should of declared strike that day.
As for Judkins, its a different day and I doubt there is as much pressure to hang the player out to dry as fast. 1st and main hurdle is getting signed by the Browns who we are sure is trying to nickel and dime him even though the charges are dropped... I think we don't hear much about suspension until mid-season especially if Judkins chooses to fight it.
Roger Goodell wishes he had listened earlier to Colin Kaepernick
His contrition is based on the amount of friction and turbulence the actions of the league produce.We're definitely in a different time. However you want to describe it - this is 8 years after Zeke's situation and alot has happened since his suspension.
people keeping pointing to the Zeke case so lets review
Ezekiel Elliott’s suspension and appeal, explained
Here’s everything you need to know about what led to Elliott’s suspension.
The Zeke allegations were so close to the Ray Rice incident that YES, I'm sure the NFL felt that no matter what they had to do something to Zeke and it would be up to Zeke to prove his innocence instead of the NFL proving his guilt. Even hiccups in her stories and text messages where she told her friends to collaborate with her; even hiring an agreed 3rd party person to review the information weren't enough for the NFL to let Zeke walk and they decided to swing their hammer and made an example here. Now we will never know what the NFL found with its independent investigation but they claim it was enough for them to ignore the 3rd party and went with the 6 games... IMO unless what they dug up was bad the NFLPA should of declared strike that day.
As for Judkins, its a different day and I doubt there is as much pressure to hang the player out to dry as fast. 1st and main hurdle is getting signed by the Browns who we are sure is trying to nickel and dime him even though the charges are dropped... I think we don't hear much about suspension until mid-season especially if Judkins chooses to fight it.
Roger Goodell wishes he had listened earlier to Colin Kaepernick
You’re not offering his spoken contrition as evidence of his actual contrition are you?
His contrition is based on the amount of friction and turbulence the actions of the league produce.We're definitely in a different time. However you want to describe it - this is 8 years after Zeke's situation and alot has happened since his suspension.
people keeping pointing to the Zeke case so lets review
Ezekiel Elliott’s suspension and appeal, explained
Here’s everything you need to know about what led to Elliott’s suspension.
The Zeke allegations were so close to the Ray Rice incident that YES, I'm sure the NFL felt that no matter what they had to do something to Zeke and it would be up to Zeke to prove his innocence instead of the NFL proving his guilt. Even hiccups in her stories and text messages where she told her friends to collaborate with her; even hiring an agreed 3rd party person to review the information weren't enough for the NFL to let Zeke walk and they decided to swing their hammer and made an example here. Now we will never know what the NFL found with its independent investigation but they claim it was enough for them to ignore the 3rd party and went with the 6 games... IMO unless what they dug up was bad the NFLPA should of declared strike that day.
As for Judkins, its a different day and I doubt there is as much pressure to hang the player out to dry as fast. 1st and main hurdle is getting signed by the Browns who we are sure is trying to nickel and dime him even though the charges are dropped... I think we don't hear much about suspension until mid-season especially if Judkins chooses to fight it.
Roger Goodell wishes he had listened earlier to Colin Kaepernick
You’re not offering his spoken contrition as evidence of his actual contrition are you?
My guess is significant punitive action against a young black male where authorities not only couldn't corroborate charges, but even expressed doubt about the timeline of the injuries incurred...is this a 'let sleeping dogs lie' situation?
My line of thought on media reports are possibly speculation. We dont know the whole story. The fact that the state prosecutors decided not to pursue charges against Judkins are the only real news and they had all the time in the world to do exhaustive investigation (despite Judkins' decision to waive a speedy trial).
It is a poorly written report and confusing as it lumps of the evidence together and also states the battery occurred on the ride from the airport on July 7 AND 8th to the hotel.
I’m not sure I’m ready to fully think he is in the clear.
SF, Full IDP draft on Saturday. Judkins also went at 1.07 (Jeanty, Hunter, Hampton, Tet, Abdul Carter, Hendo went prior).
I'm guessing Cle is waiting on the NFL to finish their "investigation".
Same. Thought it would be relatively quickly, like both sides hashed out parameters of agreement if/once he got cleared.
Bond's contract deets:
It is bizarre. As Bracie pointed out it's much less money than Judkins but Bond still got more money than any 3rd round pick got so it's not nothing. Couldn't Bond still get suspended by the NFL just like Judkins could?
Browns being Browns
I'm not sure where you're getting numbers on that one.
Because Bond's deal is fully guaranteed. The larget guarantee ever given to an UDFA was $350,000. Bond is getting $3 million fully guaranteed. Darius Alexander was the first pick of round 3 and he only got $1.56 guaranteed. This is historic commitment that the Browns have made.
www.cbssports.com
This is the Judkins thread so I will try to steer it back after I derailed it a bit but this at least shows Cleveland is willing offer good money with guarantees for a player in a similar circumstance.
I write this from the perspective of someone that's not really paid attention, but my rudimentary understanding is A) there is a difference between the Bond and Judkins cases and B) there is a potential commish exempt list issue that may be why they're waiting to move on Judkins.
No doubt there are differences. I did a little research and with the Bond case, the biggest thing seems to be there was no evidence of injury. So she didn't have pictures of bruises, cuts, etc. As for the NFL suspending Bond or putting him on the exempt list, unless Cleveland got some kind of secret wink wink message from the league, I would assume he is still likely to be suspended at some point. We probably won't know for awhile. It sounds like the NFL uses some kind of legal counsel person to do these investigations for them. They have already started they are so busy that they won't be able to begin work on the Rashee Rice case until the end of September. So I assume that means Judkins and Bond aren't going to get resolved by the league any time soon.
Yes that is a very good point. Bond could have signed anywhere.
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