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If Harris is limited Rhamondre is more than a sleeper, he's a flex option or potential RB2 depending how your team/league is constructed.
I’m going to have to disagree with Bloom on this one. As a matter of course in NE, guys that got hurt and are going to need treatment or could miss time don’t speak to the media after the game and won’t appear to reporters during the week. Harris spoke at the post game presser, was in good spirits, and declared himself fine. If he had an injury that needed further evaluation or might cause him to miss time, it’s unlikely they would let him address the media.Sigmund Bloom seems to be a contrarian on Stevenson/Harris. From this week's upgrade/downgrade report
Week 3 Upgrades, Downgrades, and Waiver Wire Wonders
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Harris is at practice today. Will have to check the injury report later today to see if he is listed as limited.
I think I would offer him to the Harris owner and be done with it. I can’t see anyone on this team being a viable fantasy threat this year.
Yep. Unfortunately for him, Harris is a good RB AND a tough guy who really likes to play. Would be a lot better if Harris was the type of guy who sat out because he was a "little sore"
Yes, the state of the offense means more than anything.
Our Harris owner has Mahomes (plus Goff and Winston) and also L. Thomas -- I have Allen but no QB2 -- Goff for Stevenson? Thomas? (I have Schultz and Engram)
This is where there will be 1,001 opinions. IMO, the offense improved a lot from Week 1 to Week 2. They had 50 more rushing and passing yards than they did against MIA. Jones only was pressured once and was not sacked. They went from 3 turnovers down to one (although they deserved to have more than that). They likely could have scored more against the Steelers, but they turtled and played keep away in the 4th quarter to preserve the win. The offense is a work in progress, but I think they are improving. Even in the Brady era, there were years where the offense putzed around in neutral for September. Granted, they had Brady and once they got their act together the offense did well. The verdict is certainly still out on Jones.
Swift, Pollard, Herbert --so I am a tad thin--but we only start 1 RB
Lions play@ Dallas on Allen’s bye. Basically thr trade is for that week and a insurance policy. Since you only start one RB, I would offer him for Goff.
How many teams are in this league and who is on the waiver wire? You might not have to trade anyone of potential value if there is a good matchup available to stream for free. Winston plays ARI, Rush plays the Lions, and Jimmy G plays the Chiefs. Those defenses haven't really been stopping much in the passing game.
Good post. I'm stashing him for now. Deep league and he may pay off later this season.
Yeah, 12 team league, available QBs (week 7) are: Flacco (@Den), Mariota (@ Cin), Mayfield (TB), Jones (@ Jax), Brisset (@ Bal), Trubisky (@Mia), Ryan (@ Ten), Rush (Det), Smith (@LAC)
Flacco won't be starting by then, Trubisky might not be starting by then, and TB doesn't give up much. I'd be leery in giving up RS for Goff, as Detroit plays the Cowboys (who have been solid against the pass and faced Brady and Burrow so far). You might want to wait a couple more weeks to see if Stevenson does anything (and if other QBs might end up available). Hard to tell given the 1 RB starting requirement.
Yeah, after thinking more on it, seems like the smart move to just wait -- heck, maybe someone will drop Brady
I think you should have a backup for a running qb anyway. I get that it’s the best one, but if he went down - look at those options you posted.
One of my son's teams is 0-2 and he is in panic mode. He was considering dropping Aaron Rodgers. People do odd things in fantasy at times.Yeah, after thinking more on it, seems like the smart move to just wait -- heck, maybe someone will drop Brady
Yeah, I agree its worth the wait -- guy with Rogers has him benched for Wentz. But I do have the concerns @FairWarning -re needing a solid backup just in case. I'm probably done if Allen goes down anyway, but I am 2-0.One of my son's teams is 0-2 and he is in panic mode. He was considering dropping Aaron Rodgers. People do odd things in fantasy at times.Yeah, after thinking more on it, seems like the smart move to just wait -- heck, maybe someone will drop Brady
One year in the FBG staff league I had my 3 QBs go down with season ending injuries. No one would trade me a QB knowing I was on the ropes for the rest of the season. I ended up streaming the dregs of society the rest of the way and still ended up 14-2 (my 4th title in 5 years). I had to start Vince Young, Carson Palmer, and Matt Moore in the playoffs and still won. Bottom line, there's always someone you can find at QB . . . especially for one week (unless rosters are so big that guys all have hoard 3 of them). A healthy Allen should usually score enough to keep you in every game. If he gets hurt, not much you can do about it (even with a backup). But you should still be able to cobble together a QB rotation to stay competitive. QB is one of the easiest positions to stream (you aren't going to find many NFL starters at WR and RB on the fantasy waiver wire).Yeah, I agree its worth the wait -- guy with Rogers has him benched for Wentz. But I do have the concerns @FairWarning -re needing a solid backup just in case. I'm probably done if Allen goes down anyway, but I am 2-0.One of my son's teams is 0-2 and he is in panic mode. He was considering dropping Aaron Rodgers. People do odd things in fantasy at times.Yeah, after thinking more on it, seems like the smart move to just wait -- heck, maybe someone will drop Brady
The outlook is worse without Jones. The offense will almost assuredly look even more incompetent with Hoyer at QB. Teams will stack the line and dare him to beat them passing the ball. Unless they are reallllly good at run blocking against a stacked front, no Jones will hurt the RBs (and the entire offense, which was already struggling).
Dwain McFarland @DwainMcFarland
Rhamondre Stevenson stepped into an RB1 utilization profile in Week 3, per PFF data
62% snaps
54% rushing atts
64% route participation
16% target share
60% short yardage
60% long-down-distance
100% two-minute
The numbers don’t really tell the whole story. NE alternated series with Harris and Stevenson. RS benefitted as his series went better than Harris’ did. Not Harris’ fault if the offense had a penalty and had to punt or turned the ball over when he was in the game. The OL also blocked plays better for Stevenson than for Harris. The point being, the Pats have not made a concerted effort to switch over to RS at this point. And as already covered, all bets are off in games Jones is out.Dwain McFarland @DwainMcFarland
Rhamondre Stevenson stepped into an RB1 utilization profile in Week 3, per PFF data
62% snaps
54% rushing atts
64% route participation
16% target share
60% short yardage
60% long-down-distance
100% two-minute
The RS truthers dont want to address two realities: 1. Neither of these guys is James White. 2. Harris is clearly the better short yardage back.
Good thing for them James White isn't walking through that door. It remains to be seen if Ty Montgomery will provide anything in the passing game if/when he comes back. Certainly, Harris has had more work in the red zone over his career. Inside the 10, he's had 40 carries, 5 receiving targets, and scored 13 TD (28.9% scoring rate out of 45 opportunities). Stevenson has had 12 carries, 1 receiving target, and scored 5 times (38.5%). I haven't noticed NE taking RS off the field at the goal line in favor of Harris (in fact against GB they did the opposite . . . but they called other plays).
I don’t know if there are “truthers” so much as folks (like me) who gambled that he’d be equal to Harris, with potentially the inside track to the James White role.
So far in PPR leagues, Harris has scored 52.5 points to 43.8 for Stevenson. We'll see if that ratio stays the same or if RS closes the gap the rest of the way. Harris' two more TD is literally the difference so far.
The floor looks reasonable. We know he's got a high ceiling if things break right.
The high ceiling was on display today
Because Harris was injured
and im not even convinced he has that kind of production the next game or 2 without Harris - in game usage reacting to an injury is different than a week long gameplan - BB just doesnt like to bell cow a RB - i wouldnt be shocked at all if BB works in another RB
Stevenson was the only RB who was active after Harris went down. Ty Montgomery is eligible to come off IR next week I believe, and Harris may not miss much, if any time, he seems to be a guy who comes out of games often, only to be ok for the following week. Otherwise, Pierre Strong likely gets some work.
Good point, agreed
1) No official word yet, I but would guess Harris could miss a week and then gets eased back in depending upon opponent and game plan.
