themeistersinger
Footballguy
Pretty amazing to hear BB make a statement like that.
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RB Rhamondre Stevenson, NE (2 Viewers)
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Judge Smails
Footballguy
He catches everything and picks up every blitz. Plus runs hard. Lots to love
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
I only wish I had him in dynasty as well as redraft.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Harris unlikely to play while Andrews is trending to return on Thursday night against BUF. That being said, the Bills haven't really allowed a ton to opposing RBs so far this year.
1 PPR scoring:
Derrick Henry - 8.5
Najee Harris - 6.6
Aaron Jones - 19.7
Dalvin Cook - 23.6
Nick Chubb - 9.7
Jamaal Williams - 12.6
If I had to guess, I would project Stevenson around 15 points this week.
1 PPR scoring:
Derrick Henry - 8.5
Najee Harris - 6.6
Aaron Jones - 19.7
Dalvin Cook - 23.6
Nick Chubb - 9.7
Jamaal Williams - 12.6
If I had to guess, I would project Stevenson around 15 points this week.
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Finally got to watch a decent amount of that NE offense this past weekend and saw how he lined up as a receiver in a lot of sets. For full/half PPR leagues that's what you gotta love. Even better, Mac looked for him so he wasn't just used as a blocker. I'm hoping he can get some mismatches working Thursday night although I hate it's not on Sunday.
BobbyLayne
Footballguy
Since wk 7 Rhamondre Stevenson is averaging 7.7 targets p/g
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Team Smokin'
Footballguy
Game script killed his chances. Only real bright spot. NE looks cooked.
barackdhouse
Footballguy
Otto - DISAPPOINTED!
Otto (Kevin Kline) expresses how he feels so simply. One of many memorable scenes from A Fish Called Wanda.
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Drake Hater
Footballguy
Ugh. You're not alone
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Any word on severity?
Dacomish
Footballguy
Saw this in a blub on ESPN:
"As Stevenson walked out of the locker room following the game, he said he hoped he'd be ready to play Sunday against the Las Vegas Raiders."
Pats lose Stevenson, Parker to injuries on MNF
The Patriots lost Rhamondre Stevenson (ankle) and DeVante Parker (head) to injuries Monday night.
Hopefully he will be good..
Judge Smails
Footballguy
Same. 3 points. I was in what looked like a can’t lose spot with Wilson and Rhamondre going and both go down early. Went against the NE D. Let’s just say the 2nd half was stressful. Now I just want my guys healthy for week 16Phew! Almost lost the playoff bye this week with Stevenson going down -- got it by 3 points
Drake Hater
Footballguy
Any info on this injury? Wouldn't be surprised for a GTD but any practice reports would be helpful.
zamboni
Footballguy
Haven't practiced yet, but we should know more later today.
In any event, I'm sure Belichick will give us all the info we need.
Cowboysfan8
Footballguy
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I expect it's going to be more difficult than usual to get practice updates. The Patriots did not travel back to NE and stayed in Arizona to practice rather than fly home and fly back to Vegas. I don't know what that means to media accessibility to the team, whether they still would be able to attend the open portion of practices, if reporters will be allowed into the locker room to talk to players and coaches, or how that would impact the usual press conference / media access schedule. They are also in a different time zone, and I have not seen or heard when they are practicing. As of now, I have not seen any practice updates or revised injury status info for banged up players so far today.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Bill Belichick is also not exactly heralded for his transparency with injured players, either.
He was Zach Taylor-ing before Zac Taylor was born.
JoeKappBudGrant
Footballguy
I was down 1 point Monday night with Kyler at QB. League doesn't use fractional point scoring.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
He's got a hip pointer or hip injury and it's not going to.be easy for him this week.
He was tackled awkwardly and I knew as it was happening that it wasn't going to be good, surprised it wasn't much worse.
Hard to tell how bad it truly is but in leagues even where I have a bye week
I'm not really making plans for Week 16 unless he is going full practices
He was tackled awkwardly and I knew as it was happening that it wasn't going to be good, surprised it wasn't much worse.
Hard to tell how bad it truly is but in leagues even where I have a bye week
I'm not really making plans for Week 16 unless he is going full practices
Anarchy99
Footballguy
He has an ankle injury. He returned in the same game for awhile before they shut him down in the second half. RS said after the game he would be back this week against Vegas.
That’s probably wishful thinking. We’ll have to see if they give him some practice days off, opt to keep him out this week, or if he ends up as a GTD.
Fantasy wise, it’s going to be a mess. Damien Harris might be back, while Kevin Harris and Strong both played well against ARI. We may not know who will be active until Sunday late afternoon. Yuck.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
When I watched it live it sure looked like he was being dragged down from behind and got bent over awkwardly
When he walked to the sidelines I remember him pointing at his hip area
They can say whatever but it sure seemed like he had what appeared as a hip injury
I need him Week 16 more than this week, my bigger fear is Strong gets on the field and explodes again, not as worried about Harris being active or inactive
Anarchy99
Footballguy
The pecking order in the NE backfield these days is RS, DH, KH, PS. I am not saying that's how it should be, but that's how it is. Generally speaking, BB likes his north and south power backs that hit the line and fall forward more than the guys that dance around, cut everything to the outside, and frequently get hit behind the LOS. Could PS have passed KH after his performance last week? Possibly . . . but KH is the one that has seen a little more action than PS has. Strong has been playing a lot on special teams (DH is a RB only). If you are only worried about next week's game, check in next week when the RB situation is reshuffled. I would not worry much about Strong . . . BB will roll with RS or DH if they are available. At this point, Stevenson is not going to lose a lot of work to other backs . . . it's just a matter of if he's healthy. We'll see which guys practice or not (and if anyone is ruled out before Sunday). That should give us a clearer picture for this week at least.
My hot take / speculation is NE gave RS the day off and he returns to practice today with limited participation. Same thing with Damien Harris. Both guys end up with questionable tags for Sunday to keep the Raiders in the dark, and both guys end up as GTDs. I am pretty sure they already know what they are planning to do with them on Sunday, they just don't want anyone to know. The problem is, they play at 4:00, so people will have to have their lineups already set before we find out what they will do. Hopefully, things will clear up some before then.
Lansdowne
Footballguy
Might be worth noting that Strong didn’t get any burn until the fumbled Mac/KHarris handoff play. Even though they recovered it BB might’ve been annoyed with Harris on it. Strong looked really good with the few touches that he got. He’d be my preferred Plan C after Stevenson and DHarris.
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
The RS/PS combo next season and even late in the year '22, could be a great combo but that does not include Harris and they still aren't likely to just do a 1-2 punch, they like to spread it around.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
It was his ankle.
I believe he’ll be resting this week. Which sucks, as it’s finally a good matchup for him after a brutal stretch of games against tough run defenses.
Boston
Footballguy
i don‘t mean this as snarky but anyone who follows the Pats expects that…I will say the one x-factor is Stevenson looks like he is the best back they have had since Dillon and he is adept at running and receiving (often their backs specialize in one or the other) and right now they do not have an elite complimentary back like White or Faulk…I think he will get more than his fair share…the key will be the goal line and if they have a back who siphons off some receptions as well as who else they bring in but overall I think Stevenson is as safe as you are ever going to get with BB.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
That’s who I claimed this week in the league I roster Stevenson.
If Harris & RS are out, I’m probably gonna flex Strong over Palmer. Or maybe over Gabe.
Gotta play it by ear. It’s very challenging since it the pats we’re talking about & BB and “injury transparency” don’t exactly belong in the same sentence. Or paragraph. Or conversation, for that matter.
Source: I rostered Deion Branch the year he tore his ACL, but was listed as “questionable” every week for 2 months & the NFL changed the injury report rules because of it.
I’m still pissed that BB made me clog my roster all year for that nonsense.
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Yeah - a team that runs that much can work out just fine with 2 backs. If I draft RS next year it will be with the hope that PS’s presence keeps RS redraft stock as low as it was this year in the 5-7 round range.
Should be plenty of meat on the bone every week for them both to eat.
Boston
Footballguy
On another note I think too many fantasy owners spend too much time searching for the almost extinct bell cow back…there just aren’t many left and I don’t see that changing…you just need to accept a majority of teams are not going to commit to one guy…and even if they do (there will always be a few) how long is that gonna last with the punishment they will take.
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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
I appreciate your thoughts and clarity, never think of you as snarky and if you were I likely deserved it
Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
Which brings up the question if we should re-tool starting line ups to something more like QB-RB1 only, 2-3 WR slots, TE is a joke, 1-2 Flex spots and stop handicapping strategies by opening up the playing field more. Shouldn't have to start more than 1 RB each week and let the next 8-10 good ones find their ay into flex spots.
In all of my 2-3 player keeper/redrafts, almost everyone has WRs in those slots. I have Kupp and Kirk right now and wouldn't make a RB one of my keepers these days, been at least 5 good seasons since i had a keeper at a RB spot.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
Stevenson should be the primary back next year. Stephenson should be in the running to be a Top 5 fantasy RB in PPR leagues next year. KHarris and Strong should be capable secondary backs and injury fill-ins. BB will probably add a late round draft pick or UDFA to round out the backfield. I think Stevenson will be used like NOS used Kamara. Maybe 180-200 carries and 60-80 receptions. This shouldn't be considered much of a revelation . . . he's averaging 12.5 carries and 4.5 receptions a game this season . . . so similar usage to this year. Place your bets on how many TD he would score, as at this point we have no idea what NE will do with the offense moving forward. He could get a lot of yards and receptions but not a lot of TD chances.
BB could use the same approach moving forward as he did with other backs he's rostered recently. Get 2 more years of Stevenson and then let him walk, and by then KHarris and Strong could be the ones getting the work.
Boston
Footballguy
I look at it the exact opposite way…there is now far more strategy in FF due to how the RBs are used…back in the day everyone just took stud RBs early and whoever ended up with the ones who did not get hurt and performed well usually won the league...that doesn’t work anymore…you can still build with RBs (and you will always need them) but it is no longer the only strategy as you can win with an elite WR unit or having A QB like Hurts or Mahomes…I like having flex positions but IMO you still need the core set positions as it increases the need for quality roster management and strategy.
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skinsrule05
Footballguy
The problem I have is ranking where these guys fall under the different scenarios:
If RS out, DH playing- Is DHarris a RB2, Strong RB3 from receiving work
If both RS/DH out- Is Strong a RB2 & KHarris a RB3
Hot Sauce Guy
Footballguy
Like I said - if both RS & Harris are out I’ll flex Strong. He has the receiving profile, and also busted the better runs - and didn’t fumble, like the other Harris.
If either RS or Harris plays, I’ll go RS at flex, or Palmer if it’s just (not Kevin) Harris.
grateful zed
Footballguy
so, he is out this week?
sushinsky4tsar
Footballguy
I'm planning on it. I'm almost hoping for it since it becomes really tricky if he suits up. I would almost feel obligated as good as he has been, but it probably wouldn't end well for my fantasy team.
I'm at an okay place pivoting to Chris Moore in the flex if Nico and Cooks are both out.
That statement is probably an indictment on all of the time I spend on this stupid hobby. Welcome to the playoffs.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
For starters, NE did not practice in pads yesterday or today, and IIRC, they only have a walkthrough scheduled for tomorrow. Mike Reiss tweeted that RS was a DNP again today. Combining that together, I doubt he will play Sunday if he's not even participating in non-contact practice. Damien Harris worked a side session yesterday and was listed as limited in both practices so far this week. But I saw a couple of clips of him at practice today, and he seemed pretty spry to me. Best guess, I believe he will play Sunday. I will keep tabs of things until game time. I would guess Harris will get a decent workload, but not what Stevenson was getting. The other Harris and Strong probably will get some work. I expect Stevenson to be inactive for Sunday. Hopefully they will declare that Saturday and give folks a chance to play someone else.
Anarchy99
Footballguy
I don't really play fantasy anymore. I have no teams in traditional, head-to-head, submit a lineup every week leagues. That probably is an indictment on all of the time I spend on this stupid hobby that I don't really actively participate in.
