RB Rhamondre Stevenson, NE (2 Viewers)

[Ministry of Pain]

Harris has a hamstring injury, likely not the tear that takes longer but he is likely to be OUT at least a week or two and even when he returns he might be eased back in until he is 100%.
I wonder if Zappe now has the job until Jones returns.?

Stevenson can carry it 25/125-150 next couple weeks but as soon as Harris is healthy you are going to see a split whether you like it or not. My advice is to try and trade him or package him with a WR or someone else and get a solid return. If Harris had an injury that clearly made him unavailable for a longer stint than I would hold on to Stevenson.

1) No official word yet, I but would guess Harris could miss a week and then gets eased back in depending upon opponent and game plan.
2) Stevenson only got a huge workload yesterday because they only had two active RBs. But he should be expected to see a big workload in games with Harris out.
3) Strong was a healthy scratch but hasn't looked great. The other Harris and Taylor are also options, but they would likely only be a COP to give RS a breather, not heavy usage options.
4) Montgomery is technically eligible to come off of IR, but I still think he is several weeks away from being a consideration. He is not expected to be activated this week. BB said it, not me.
5) Hoyer went on IR, so he can't play for at least 3 more weeks. There is no brewing QB controversy. Jones will be the guy when he is healthy.
6) I doubt you will get much in trying to trade Stevenson unless you find someone that is a Pats fan. RBs that might only see a couple of starts aren't going to bring back a big haul (unless Harris is out for half the season . . . in which case you probably shouldn't be trading RS in the first place). Sure, if someone offered me the sun AND the moon for him, by all means trade away.
7) Stevenson is setting himself up to be the majority shareholder next year. It's unlikely NE will pay Harris what he wants, so unless he wants to get paid like a job share back, I don't see the Pats bringing him back.
8) Depending on how long Harris is out (if at all), RS may start getting a 60/40 split of the workload. RS actually has had a slight majority share of snaps and touches in games they played together since the mid-point of last season already. But no one noticed since Harris is tabbed as "the starter" and has gotten most of the red zone carries. More TD outscores more yardage in fantasy.
9) When one of RS or DH has gotten the lion's share of the touches with the other one out, banged up, or in the doghouse, the one getting fed the ball has typically eaten pretty well. Those games have included 117 YFS/3, 114/2, 113/2, 103/1, and yesterday's 175/0. Stevenson in this case would become a fantasy must start. Whomever else they have won't make much of a dent. OTHER ACTIVE RB might see 5 or 6 carries with Stevenson getting a big workload.
10) Like DET, CLE is also not great at stopping the run. I see no reason why a Stevenson owner would sit him (unless that team has multiple guys that are Top 5 backs).

I knew you would show up here.
I didn't want to speak for you but I've been following your description of the situation for a while now, thank you.

 

[Faust]

‘Love him’: Bill Belichick praises Rhamondre Stevenson after breakout performance

 

[TapRackBang]

 

[Anarchy99]

This situation so far has followed the script that I mapped out earlier in the off season. Harris would get dinged, he'd miss some time, and Stevenson would step in and put up fantasy RB1 (ie Top 12) numbers with Harris out. If RS does well, they won't be eager to rush Harris back. And if NE goes on a winning streak (which could happen), they may be even more conservative with Harris if they get in position to contend for a wildcard spot (and want to make sure Harris can make it to the post season if they get that far). With Harris a free agent next year, we could see Stevenson take a bigger share of the offense when Harris comes back. To be clear, it is unlikely Harris becomes a backup on his return, but Harris could see his workload drop off.

We are a long way away from that, so for now all we can assess is how Stevenson will do against the Browns this week. With NE either going with Zappe or a banged up Jones, either way they will want to run the ball a lot (and CLE is not great stopping the run). NE will probably have one or two other backs active (the options are Strong, the other Harris, and Taylor), but neither one should see much action. Ty Montgomery does not appear to be close to returning to action, so we should see a heavy dose of Stevenson this week and next.

Stevenson already was getting 55% of the offensive snaps and 52% of the touches in the RS/DH comparison. It wouldn't shock me if RS captured 60-65% of the touches once Harris comes back. But as I said, let's see how Stevenson does before we anoint him the next Priest Holmes.

 

[Anarchy99]

Reporter this morning: How much confidence do you have in RS as a three down running back?

BB: As much confidence as you could possibly have.

 

[Banger]

Reporter this morning: How much confidence do you have in RS as a three down running back?

BB: As much confidence as you could possibly have.

this clearly means that Strong will come in and dominate the carries....

 

[Scooby1974]

Reporter this morning: How much confidence do you have in RS as a three down running back?

BB: As much confidence as you could possibly have.

this clearly means that Strong will come in and dominate the carries....

Bite your tongue, Banger! I need Stevenson to take over here. haha

 

[Dr. Octopus]

BB: As much confidence as you could possibly have.

In his deadpan delivery this must have been gold.

 

[Anarchy99]

BB: As much confidence as you could possibly have.

In his deadpan delivery this must have been gold.

HIs zinger this week was this . . .

Reporter: How similar are Mac Jones and Bailey Zappe?
BB: I don't know . . . they're both right-handed. (LONNNNG PAUSE and nothing else.)

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's not often you have a guy elevate so far in 1 week as you peek at the cheatsheets and it's going to be hard to ignore Stevenson.

Again, this is a hot topic or hotter this week because many will get an opp to deploy Stevenson as a starter or maybe it's the first time all season where you can go 3-Wide and STACK the BACKS!!!


If he's set to go Primetime this week then I need some Primetime music

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STACK the BACKS!!!​

-Is it November yet? That cold weather is going turn Wide Receivers into statues and Running Backs into steel tanks ready to gash and rip defenses from the underside belly of the line right thru the backdoor of the Safety, 38 Out the Gate and let's Go Baby Go!

-The Browns are pretty bad at limiting opposing RBs, not saying they stink at stopping the run but the RBs seem to do well vs the Browns. You add in Stevenson is set to get the lion’s share of the touches on Sunday and you can start doing the math and why so many Stevenson investors are looking for a payday on Sunday.

-He's bumbling, WHOOP, he's stumbling, WHOOP and he just could go ALL the WAY!!!

 

[Anarchy99]

It's not often you have a guy elevate so far in 1 week as you peek at the cheatsheets and it's going to be hard to ignore Stevenson.

Again, this is a hot topic or hotter this week because many will get an opp to deploy Stevenson as a starter or maybe it's the first time all season where you can go 3-Wide and STACK the BACKS!!!


if he's set to go Primetime this week then i need some music

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

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STACK the BACKS!!!​

-Is it November yet? That cold weather is going turn Wide Receivers into statues and Running Backs into steel tanks ready to gash and rip defenses from the underside belly of the line right thru the backdoor of the Safety, 38 Out the Gate and let's Go Baby Go!

-The Browns are pretty bad at limiting opposing RBs, not saying they stink at stopping the run but the RBs seem to do well vs the Browns. You add in Stevenson is set to get the lion’s share of the touches on Sunday and you can start doing the math and why so many Stevenson investors are looking for a payday on Sunday.

-He's bumbling, WHOOP, he's stumbling, WHOOP and he just could go ALL the WAY!!!

This really isn't complicated. For people that drafted Stevenson, this is the exact situation they drafted him for. He should be a no brainer start in any league and any scoring system.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

It's not often you have a guy elevate so far in 1 week as you peek at the cheatsheets and it's going to be hard to ignore Stevenson.

Again, this is a hot topic or hotter this week because many will get an opp to deploy Stevenson as a starter or maybe it's the first time all season where you can go 3-Wide and STACK the BACKS!!!


if he's set to go Primetime this week then i need some music

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

STACK the BACKS!!!​

-Is it November yet? That cold weather is going turn Wide Receivers into statues and Running Backs into steel tanks ready to gash and rip defenses from the underside belly of the line right thru the backdoor of the Safety, 38 Out the Gate and let's Go Baby Go!

-The Browns are pretty bad at limiting opposing RBs, not saying they stink at stopping the run but the RBs seem to do well vs the Browns. You add in Stevenson is set to get the lion’s share of the touches on Sunday and you can start doing the math and why so many Stevenson investors are looking for a payday on Sunday.

-He's bumbling, WHOOP, he's stumbling, WHOOP and he just could go ALL the WAY!!!

This really isn't complicated. For people that drafted Stevenson, this is the exact situation they drafted him for. He should be a no brainer start in any league and any scoring system.

Very true but we investors have not had a moment like this yet so excuse some of the exuberance. And btw, i am completely aware that this sets up for a mighty fall if things don't go well but this is the moment many have been waiting for.
I do want to commend you for defending Harris, many of the points you make are reasons why other RBs are still holding down starting jobs like in Chicago as an example. There is more that goes into all of this than just the explosive runs or guys we feel can gain more yards.

And yes this is going pretty much to script from what you wrote.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It's not often you have a guy elevate so far in 1 week as you peek at the cheatsheets and it's going to be hard to ignore Stevenson.

Again, this is a hot topic or hotter this week because many will get an opp to deploy Stevenson as a starter or maybe it's the first time all season where you can go 3-Wide and STACK the BACKS!!!


if he's set to go Primetime this week then i need some music

- YouTube

Enjoy the videos and music you love, upload original content, and share it all with friends, family, and the world on YouTube.

www.youtube.com

STACK the BACKS!!!​

-Is it November yet? That cold weather is going turn Wide Receivers into statues and Running Backs into steel tanks ready to gash and rip defenses from the underside belly of the line right thru the backdoor of the Safety, 38 Out the Gate and let's Go Baby Go!

-The Browns are pretty bad at limiting opposing RBs, not saying they stink at stopping the run but the RBs seem to do well vs the Browns. You add in Stevenson is set to get the lion’s share of the touches on Sunday and you can start doing the math and why so many Stevenson investors are looking for a payday on Sunday.

-He's bumbling, WHOOP, he's stumbling, WHOOP and he just could go ALL the WAY!!!

This really isn't complicated. For people that drafted Stevenson, this is the exact situation they drafted him for. He should be a no brainer start in any league and any scoring system.

1000%

He’s in my RB2 spot.

Hopefully AJ Dillon gets the next opportunity like this.

 

[Anarchy99]

In case people forgot (or weren't aware), the same scenario played out last season. Harris was out against the Browns. Stevenson put up 20-100-2 with 4-14-0. JJ Taylor and Brandon Bolden combined for 9 carries and 3 receptions (for 71 YFS and no TD). Substitute Pierre Strong and Kevin Harris for Taylor and Bolden this time around. NE won't score 45 points again, but RS should be in the 125-150 yard range with a TD.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

RS should be in the 125-150 range with a TD.

 

[TampaMike19]

It was so freaking obvious to draft this guy this year but I didn’t do it. However people say the same of how obvious it was to draft aj Dillon…so. These work out 50/50 lol

 

[FairWarning]

I’ll admit Stevenson is a guy I was wrong about, more because of the NE offense than his ability. He looks very good.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

It was so freaking obvious to draft this guy this year but I didn’t do it. However people say the same of how obvious it was to draft aj Dillon…so. These work out 50/50 lol

I drafted both.

And IMO Dillon will also pay off. It’s taken longer for this post-Adams GB team to gel.

Dillon has looked great when out there and he is clearly used to salt away a win when they have a lead.

But the whole GB offense has been a little disjointed. I expect that to change, and for the RB workload to be a bit more balanced.

Also Aaron Jones has been remarkably healthy given his workload. If he gets dinged up, Dillon shareholders hit the jackpot.

 

[Anarchy99]

Wasn’t always pretty, but finished with 19-76-2 with 4-15-0.

 

[dipandglide]

He's a sneaky stud. I don't see him going away even with Harris in the lineup. High floor/ceiling combo es bueno.

 

[The Frankman]

Rhamondre Stevenson rushed 19 times for 76 yards and two touchdowns in the Patriots' Week 6 win over the Browns, adding four catches for 15 yards.​

Stevenson got taken down at or near the line of scrimmage plenty of times in this game but showed off his big-play potential with a 31-yard score in the second quarter. He picked up his second touchdown of the day with a six-yard plunge in the final minutes of the game. His backups combined for four carries and no receptions. Stevenson's fantasy ranking for Week 7 will depend on the status of Damien Harris, who was out this week with a hamstring issue. If Harris remains sidelined, Stevenson will be a locked-in RB1 versus the Bears.
- NBCSportsEDGE

 

[Faust]

Rhamondre Stevenson played on 86% of snaps in Week 6 against the Browns.​

With Damien Harris out, Stevenson operated as a true workhorse running back, playing the same snap share as Christian McCaffrey in Week 6. If Harris misses again, Stevenson is set up for another heavy workload when the Patriots take on the Bears in Week 7.
Oct 17, 2022, 10:33 AM ET

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I was expecting more

 

[Schmeabs]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

 

[Ministry of Pain]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

50 touches in 2 weeks...they're gonna kill him with that workload

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

50 touches in 2 weeks...they're gonna kill him with that workload

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

Doubtful - initial reports were that he’d miss multiple weeks.

BB just likes screwing with the injury report like most of us like BBQ & beer.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

I was expecting more

I was very pleased with my 25+ points from my RB3.

 

[Schmeabs]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

Doubtful - initial reports were that he’d miss multiple weeks.

BB just likes screwing with the injury report like most of us like BBQ & beer.

I thought so too and then I heard Harris was out warming up on Sunday before being ruled out

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

Doubtful - initial reports were that he’d miss multiple weeks.

BB just likes screwing with the injury report like most of us like BBQ & beer.

I thought so too and then I heard Harris was out warming up on Sunday before being ruled out

I couldn’t find anyone saying they saw him run or cut. I heard he was “testing his hamstring” and moreover, that he didn’t look close to ready.

https://twitter.com/ezlazar/status/1581658065392504832?s=12

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

The only disappointing aspect was that he had 2 carries from the 1, and 1 from the two and couldn’t punch it in. He could have had a 4 TD day with those other 2 TDs.

 

[Anarchy99]

I was expecting more

Heading into MNF, Stevenson is the #1 fantasy scoring RB this week. What would appease you . . . if he ranked as the #0 RB? I agree that it didn't look pretty all game yesterday, but the results are the results. CLE sold out to stop the run to force Zappe to beat them. And he did. NE could have opted to get away from running the ball, but they didn't. And they could have passed more in the red zone / FG range. But RS still got into the end zone twice. More concerning was the play calling at the goal line, as Stevenson could EASILY have had two more TD. All they needed to do was a misdirection, a pitch play, a screen to the flat. But instead they tried to rush it up the gut, they got poor blocking, and RS got nailed as soon as he touched the ball on several occasion from the one. He couldn't even try to dive over the pile, as guys hit his legs behind the LOS. Those plays were DOA and not his fault.

As for Damien Harris, from what I could tell, he mostly had a week off to recover. He attended practice, mostly did some stretching / strength / and conditioning but was not involved in actual practice or running plays. From those that saw him warm up before the game yesterday, he couldn't go full speed, couldn't really put all his weight on his leg, and looked extremely timid (ie not ready to play). NE shouldn't need Harris to beat Chicago (no offense to the Bears fans in the audience). It's a long way to MNF, but on first blush, I would guess they hold him out next week and have him for the first tilt with the Jets the following week.

 

[Ministry of Pain]

I was expecting more

Heading into MNF, Stevenson is the #1 fantasy scoring RB this week. What would appease you . . . if he ranked as the #0 RB? I agree that it didn't look pretty all game yesterday, but the results are the results. CLE sold out to stop the run to force Zappe to beat them. And he did. NE could have opted to get away from running the ball, but they didn't. And they could have passed more in the red zone / FG range. But RS still got into the end zone twice. More concerning was the play calling at the goal line, as Stevenson could EASILY have had two more TD. All they needed to do was a misdirection, a pitch play, a screen to the flat. But instead they tried to rush it up the gut, they got poor blocking, and RS got nailed as soon as he touched the ball on several occasion from the one. He couldn't even try to dive over the pile, as guys hit his legs behind the LOS. Those plays were DOA and not his fault.

As for Damien Harris, from what I could tell, he mostly had a week off to recover. He attended practice, mostly did some stretching / strength / and conditioning but was not involved in actual practice or running plays. From those that saw him warm up before the game yesterday, he couldn't go full speed, couldn't really put all his weight on his leg, and looked extremely timid (ie not ready to play). NE shouldn't need Harris to beat Chicago (no offense to the Bears fans in the audience). It's a long way to MNF, but on first blush, I would guess they hold him out next week and have him for the first tilt with the Jets the following week.

 

[Anarchy99]

Someone asked Mike Reiss when Damien Harris would be back, and he wasn’t sure it would be this week. People that saw Harris in a pre-game warm up against CLE said he didn’t look great or close to playing. I would guess we get another dose of Stevenson on MNF against the Bears. I will monitor how practice goes this week and will report back.

 

[-jb-]

Harris logged a full practice yesterday. How much does that shake your confidence in RS this week? MNF kind of throws a wrench in things

 

[tricky92]

Harris logged a full practice yesterday. How much does that shake your confidence in RS this week? MNF kind of throws a wrench in things

He's still an RB2.

 

[LionOfGosforth]

Harris logged a full practice yesterday. How much does that shake your confidence in RS this week? MNF kind of throws a wrench in things

He's still an RB2.

They both are. I think Harris gets only minimal playing time this week at a guess with how well RS did last week but BB has always used both when available and i'm sure that will continue

 

[travdogg]

Personally, with Harris back, but likely not getting his usual workload, and NE likely to run it 30+ times against a Bears team they should dominate, I feel like Stevenson is a low-end RB1 this week, and Harris is probably a flex.

 

[The Man With No Name]

Back to the bench for me with Harris back

 

[Judge Smails]

Back to the bench for me with Harris back

Bold. Must have great options

 

[zeke2222]

PPR i have to make a decision between RS or Mccaffery ? not sure about Mccaffery usage/volume 1st game with SF

 

[zeke2222]

Wan dale Robinson vs Jax or Tonyan vs Wash at Flex? PPR

 

[rockaction]

PPR i have to make a decision between RS or Mccaffery ? not sure about Mccaffery usage/volume 1st game with SF

Your questions belong in the Assistant Coach Forum or the Officially Unofficial Sit/Start Thread For Week Seven located on the front page. That's where we discuss questions of this nature. It's to keep it from mucking up the threads regarding a specific player.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

Doubtful - initial reports were that he’d miss multiple weeks.

BB just likes screwing with the injury report like most of us like BBQ & beer.

Update: of course Harris is expected to play now.

I question how much he’ll play, or whether he’s 100%

Most experts seem to believe Stevenson will still get the lion’s share of backfield work, but who knows at this point.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Wan dale Robinson vs Jax or Tonyan vs Wash at Flex? PPR

Wrong topic.

 

[BladeRunner]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

Doubtful - initial reports were that he’d miss multiple weeks.

BB just likes screwing with the injury report like most of us like BBQ & beer.

Update: of course Harris is expected to play now.

I question how much he’ll play, or whether he’s 100%

Most experts seem to believe Stevenson will still get the lion’s share of backfield work, but who knows at this point.

I learned at least 10 years ago never to draft or play Patriot RBs. I fully believe part of Belichek's Sunday game plan is to piss of FF owners. I sincerely believe that after years of watching how Belicheck utilizes his backs. It's not to win games - that's a nice side effect - it's because he hates FF.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

Doubtful - initial reports were that he’d miss multiple weeks.

BB just likes screwing with the injury report like most of us like BBQ & beer.

Update: of course Harris is expected to play now.

I question how much he’ll play, or whether he’s 100%

Most experts seem to believe Stevenson will still get the lion’s share of backfield work, but who knows at this point.

I learned at least 10 years ago never to draft or play Patriot RBs. I fully believe part of Belichek's Sunday game plan is to piss of FF owners. I sincerely believe that after years of watching how Belicheck utilize his backs.

I mean, Stevenson has been great so far.

I have no remorse over drafting him. I don’t even consider this a headache - he’s locked and loaded as my RB2.

 

[BladeRunner]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

Doubtful - initial reports were that he’d miss multiple weeks.

BB just likes screwing with the injury report like most of us like BBQ & beer.

Update: of course Harris is expected to play now.

I question how much he’ll play, or whether he’s 100%

Most experts seem to believe Stevenson will still get the lion’s share of backfield work, but who knows at this point.

I learned at least 10 years ago never to draft or play Patriot RBs. I fully believe part of Belichek's Sunday game plan is to piss of FF owners. I sincerely believe that after years of watching how Belicheck utilize his backs.

I mean, Stevenson has been great so far.

I have no remorse over drafting him. I don’t even consider this a headache - he’s locked and loaded as my RB2.

Yeah, no doubt. You're talking to a guy who has been burned by Belichek so many times I won't even draft what appears to be a sure thing on Belichek's team anymore.

 

[Hot Sauce Guy]

Patriots play next Monday night. Is Harris going to screw us and play Monday night?

Doubtful - initial reports were that he’d miss multiple weeks.

BB just likes screwing with the injury report like most of us like BBQ & beer.

Update: of course Harris is expected to play now.

I question how much he’ll play, or whether he’s 100%

Most experts seem to believe Stevenson will still get the lion’s share of backfield work, but who knows at this point.

I learned at least 10 years ago never to draft or play Patriot RBs. I fully believe part of Belichek's Sunday game plan is to piss of FF owners. I sincerely believe that after years of watching how Belicheck utilize his backs.

I mean, Stevenson has been great so far.

I have no remorse over drafting him. I don’t even consider this a headache - he’s locked and loaded as my RB2.

Yeah, no doubt. You're talking to a guy who has been burned by Belichek so many times I won't even draft what appears to be a sure thing on Belichek's team anymore.

Oh I’ve been there many times. I completely understand. BenJarvus Green Ellis says hi.

 

[King of the Jungle]

I think a lot depends on how healthy Harris is. Rham has had a heavier workload the last few weeks and I would not be shocked to see that lightened a bit today if Damien has no restrictions. If the game is out of hand I could also see Bill giving the young guys some chances as well. That said he is currently in my RB2 spot.