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RB Sean Tucker, TB (1 Viewer)

Hate that I'm obligated to empty my bag of faab in dynasty, but it probably won't be enough with half of it already gone. Congrats to anyone that made room for him or actually had the roster size to keep the faith.

I know people want this to be Bucky and Tucker, with Tucker instantly at flex consideration moving forward. However, I do think 3-man committee is where it's going for the near future, which makes for a less than tantalizing lineup option. Maybe White eventually gets phased out, but 195lb & 205lb would make a pretty light 1-2 punch if that's the hope for the future of this backfield.

With that said, probably best not to overthink this by talking myself out of aggressively bidding in dynasty. Even if the touches are less than ideal for now, it'll eventually sort itself out if he manages anything close to this level of efficiency. For 2024 rest-of-season, I'm less bullish, but still worth a bid just to see where it goes in the next couple of weeks.
 
I’ll say this about the Sean Tucker breakout: a lot of people seem surprised by it but I don’t think they should be. I just noticed a lot of people in the past year or so, whether it’s Rachaad White owners, or spurned former Tucker owners, or Bucky Irving owners, whatever the case may be, just a lot of snarky comments around the internet about how much of a bum Tucker is for his low YPC last season and for not being drafted (ignoring the medical aspect of why he wasn’t drafted). And really any time a guy is hyped up as a possible replacement, even if it’s for a different team, “don’t fall for the hype like you did for Sean Tucker”. Just a lot of hand waving and dismissing of Tucker amounting to anything in the NFL.

So even though he was on my bench and I didn’t get to benefit from what could very well end up being his career-best performance, I’m glad Tucker got to silence his haters, even if just for one week. It’s just very satisfying seeing Tucker show what he’s capable of, which I knew from my own two eyes what he was capable of.

Might be even more frustrating now when/if he’s underutilized because White and Irving are ahead of him on the depth chart, so I wouldn’t trust him to get enough work until one of the guys ahead of him is out of the picture. But he looks like a league winner if he ever gets to really run wild in this Bucs offense. He’s worth holding in all leagues just for that.
 
I’ll say this about the Sean Tucker breakout: a lot of people seem surprised by it but I don’t think they should be. I just noticed a lot of people in the past year or so, whether it’s Rachaad White owners, or spurned former Tucker owners, or Bucky Irving owners, whatever the case may be, just a lot of snarky comments around the internet about how much of a bum Tucker is for his low YPC last season and for not being drafted (ignoring the medical aspect of why he wasn’t drafted). And really any time a guy is hyped up as a possible replacement, even if it’s for a different team, “don’t fall for the hype like you did for Sean Tucker”. Just a lot of hand waving and dismissing of Tucker amounting to anything in the NFL.

So even though he was on my bench and I didn’t get to benefit from what could very well end up being his career-best performance, I’m glad Tucker got to silence his haters, even if just for one week. It’s just very satisfying seeing Tucker show what he’s capable of, which I knew from my own two eyes what he was capable of.

Might be even more frustrating now when/if he’s underutilized because White and Irving are ahead of him on the depth chart, so I wouldn’t trust him to get enough work until one of the guys ahead of him is out of the picture. But he looks like a league winner if he ever gets to really run wild in this Bucs offense. He’s worth holding in all leagues just for that.

At the Senior Bowl last year, Bootleg Football (Brett Kohlmann & EJ Snyder) interviewed a bunch of players for the YT channel. Last Q for defenders: “Who was the one guy who gave you fits; which player made you sit back and say wow, he’s different?”

Anybody who played Syracuse gave the same answer: Sean Tucker
 
TB looking like a team potentially heading deep into the playoffs. Any chance that Tucker plays so well that he straight claims the job.....meaning commanding a 70+% share of RB touches within a few weeks?
 
TB looking like a team potentially heading deep into the playoffs. Any chance that Tucker plays so well that he straight claims the job.....meaning commanding a 70+% share of RB touches within a few weeks?

Irving 5’9” 192
Tucker 5’9” 207
White 6’0” 214

I’m saying there’s a chance

:shrug:
 
Just curious if we got any kind of a drumbeat in training camp, preseason, or notable comments from the coaching staff on this one?

I know the background. Former devy darling. Not the typical UDFA. Not playing at full health his rookie year. Guys like this and Zach Evans will always be on my watch list if they're getting any kind of action in the boxscore.

With that said, boxscore scouting his limited opportunities in 2023 and early this season provided no hint that we might see an outburst like this. Making a preemptive pickup on this one for me, really would have come down to the White injury news, next man up on the depth chart, and really just buying into some level of fill-in opportunity for a guy once projected as a 1st round fantasy rookie pick. To be honest, I'm not sure that I would have taken him ahead of Goodson if you told me one of the two was going to go crazy on Sunday.
 
I'll never understand. Draft season : don't underestimate the talent, kid's just got to get through medicals..

Year and a half of crickets and the team pushing guys above him nonstop on the depth chart and drafting over him..

Erupts - immense talent, great talent.

So what tf was going on for a year and a half that he couldn't put White on the bench for a snap when everyone in the world could see how inefficient white was on the ground? The only logical conclusion was that he wasn't talented enough to push White/ Irving. This **** drives me crazy. I drafted him and eventually dropped him in at least 1 league.

Who's next, Zach Evans?

This rant is spot on. Up until the White injury news, I feel like there was no logical rationale to roster him in my 24x12 team (keep 19) dynasty. Even after the White injury, I swear that using my final roster spots on Tre Tucker and Alec Pierce totally made more sense than a pre-emptive Sean Tucker scoop. Seems pretty ridiculous now. I need to find a dynasty league with 20-man taxi squads for my own sanity.

Funny that you mention Evans. I will forever link the two as guys that were supposed to be prizes in the 1st round of '23 fantasy rookie picks that completely crashed. As I recall, Waldman advocated for Evans even after the 6th round draft capital and was more lukewarm on Tucker's prospects.
 
TB looking like a team potentially heading deep into the playoffs. Any chance that Tucker plays so well that he straight claims the job.....meaning commanding a 70+% share of RB touches within a few weeks?

Irving 5’9” 192
Tucker 5’9” 207
White 6’0” 214

I’m saying there’s a chance

:shrug:
70% of “the” job? No.

Bucky hasn’t exactly been a slouch.

White had 1,500+ total yards last year and his ability as a receiver/blocker, which is better than Buck/Tuck, doesn’t magically disappear.

This backfield is a 3-headed monster migraine for fantasy owners.

And as good as they’ve been I wouldn’t expect there to be 300+ total yards and 3 TDs to go around for the RBs every week.

Good luck figuring it out.
 
Even the coach came out and called it a 3 headed monster today.
Yep. Great problem for the Bucs to have. Not so much for fantasy managers.

I’ll just say this; I’m really glad I picked Tucker up off the wire in dynasty just prior to this game. He may not be consistently startable this year, but it could be wheels up next season.
 
Even the coach came out and called it a 3 headed monster today.
Yep. Great problem for the Bucs to have. Not so much for fantasy managers.

I’ll just say this; I’m really glad I picked Tucker up off the wire in dynasty just prior to this game. He may not be consistently startable this year, but it could be wheels up next season.
I think the true nature of any 3 headed RB committee is that the player(s) who play the best get the lions share. As a team with legit SB aspirations I don't think they will have any qualms about making White the odd man out (at some point) if he doesn't show some much stronger results.
 
Even the coach came out and called it a 3 headed monster today.

So.. one injury for relevance in a lineup league. Two chances to "win" each week. Could be worse.



If he keeps doing what he did on Sunday for 7 or 8 carries a game, it will just be a matter of time before gets that 70% workload. No more riding the pine. Or at least one would hope. Emptying my bag of FAAB on a 45% bid. Fully expecting 50%+, even with a waiver wire that's normally conservative.
 
Might be even more frustrating now when/if he’s underutilized because White and Irving are ahead of him on the depth chart, so I wouldn’t trust him to get enough work until one of the guys ahead of him is out of the picture. But he looks like a league winner if he ever gets to really run wild in this Bucs offense. He’s worth holding in all leagues just for that.

His situation has a bit of a Jordan Mason feel to it. Where he may flash here and there his 2nd season and then still need something to happen year 3 to pave the way for opportunity. This was obviously a much bigger splash than Mason made and what's ahead of him on the depth chart is more overcomable.
 
Might be even more frustrating now when/if he’s underutilized because White and Irving are ahead of him on the depth chart, so I wouldn’t trust him to get enough work until one of the guys ahead of him is out of the picture. But he looks like a league winner if he ever gets to really run wild in this Bucs offense. He’s worth holding in all leagues just for that.

His situation has a bit of a Jordan Mason feel to it. Where he may flash here and there his 2nd season and then still need something to happen year 3 to pave the way for opportunity. This was obviously a much bigger splash than Mason made and what's ahead of him on the depth chart is more overcomable.
He feels more like Fool's Gold. I want nothing to do with the TB backfield.
 
TB looking like a team potentially heading deep into the playoffs. Any chance that Tucker plays so well that he straight claims the job.....meaning commanding a 70+% share of RB touches within a few weeks?

Irving 5’9” 192
Tucker 5’9” 207
White 6’0” 214

I’m saying there’s a chance

:shrug:
I wonder if they all weigh more than that now. Tucker sure looks like it.
 
Might be even more frustrating now when/if he’s underutilized because White and Irving are ahead of him on the depth chart, so I wouldn’t trust him to get enough work until one of the guys ahead of him is out of the picture. But he looks like a league winner if he ever gets to really run wild in this Bucs offense. He’s worth holding in all leagues just for that.

His situation has a bit of a Jordan Mason feel to it. Where he may flash here and there his 2nd season and then still need something to happen year 3 to pave the way for opportunity. This was obviously a much bigger splash than Mason made and what's ahead of him on the depth chart is more overcomable.
He feels more like Fool's Gold. I want nothing to do with the TB backfield.

Nah, Sunday was proof of gold. Now we just need to figure out the karatage.
 
Matt Waldman
Sean Tucker has that juice where he glides past defenders like Robert Smith back in the day.

#BuccaneersvsSaints

the guy from The Cure?
Sunday I'm in love.
Yes he looked good, but how long is White going to be out?
Probably not long. When he does, it's probably going to be a maddening RBBC. Tucker is a nice stash but might not return much value unless one or the other guys remains/gets hurt. Probably a better stash for keeper/dynasty leagues
 
1. Many NFL teams DO NOT subscribe to the 1-guy taking the JOB and gobbling up 400 touches the rest of the season, NFL teams don't think like FF managers
Very few teams IMO do the workhorse 1-back thing. Shanahan is known to overload his starting Running Backs, if he has one he likes he just uses them again and again
How many other teams really do that?

Head Coaches don't gather in a room and talk about which RB they want to get 15-20 touches to that weekend, they have no idea how the game will play out.
In-game script has a lot to do with the number of touches and which RBs get on the field.

2. Rachaad White is coming off 336 touches, 1,530 total yds and 9 TDs including 64 catches and 115 his 1st 2 seasons...
Do you really think Sean Tucker is going to vault right past him? As a Bucs fan, gimme a break

-But very excited about Tucker as the RB3 on a team I love, still think Irving and White will get first touches and its nice to have Tucker
Would like to see White evolve into more of a WR3 and just had a handful of carries to keep the Defenses honest, turn him into more of a dual 3rd down RB, sometimes gets entire drives
Irving and Tucker need to be rotated a lot and you know Tucker is not going to have the same stats last night maybe the rest of the season, it's 1 game.
And keep this position fluid. Not good for FF managers but fresh legs, all of them can hurt a defense in different ways, mostly good news for the Bucs

3. Tucker played just 3 seasons at Syracuse, redshirt Freshman and redshirt Sophomore and he was gone to the NFL. His numbers are pretty strong for Syracuse, it's possible only playing 3 years in college and 1 of them he was red-shirted, it's possible he had not developed fully as a RB just yet meaning he might be a lot better than a year ago coming out of college and I think he was undrafted. On one hand I want to minimize the enthusiasm as I doubt we see anything close to last week any time soon, at the same time there are reasons to be optimistic about him.

-White hasn't been lighting it up this year BUT his last 2 games total 20 carries for 120+ rush yds or over 6 yds a clip, I really doubt the Bucs are thinking about benching White
Take a deep breath here everyone
 
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This **** drives me crazy.
Yeah, I can relate. But it's one game, and I think the only thing we can say for sure is that Tampa Bay is a committee. Just like a lot of NFL teams these days.
Who is going to predict that Tucker will be the most valuable RB on the team by the end of the season? Most likely those who get him off waivers this week, that's who will be saying it.

But you have buy a ticket to win the lottery. It might as well be the player who had a big game last week.

It's just, Rachaad White is only in his 3rd season, so that means just about 1.5 years ago you can find forum comments like "When is Rachaad White taking over the backfield? He passes the eye test for me, he's gonna be great!"
Or let's just go back to two weeks ago..."When is Bucky Irving taking over the backfield? He passes the eye test for me, he's gonna be great!"
 
Can y’all point me to recent examples of perceived 3-headed monsters that stayed that way? Don’t they more or less settle into a duo and #3 is either a 4-phase ST or inactive?

ETA

ST snaps
Tucker 62
Irving 18
White 0

Tucker plays on 4-phases, kick returns plus coverages. Irving is KRet only.
 
Can y’all point me to recent examples of perceived 3-headed monsters that stayed that way? Don’t they more or less settle into a duo and #3 is either a 4-phase ST or inactive?
What makes people think it would be a 3 headed monster? If White and Irving are healthy I suspect it will be business as usual. Just because Tucker had a great game doesn't automatically make him viable if both White and Irving are healthy.
 
Can y’all point me to recent examples of perceived 3-headed monsters that stayed that way? Don’t they more or less settle into a duo and #3 is either a 4-phase ST or inactive?
Off the top of my head I remember
Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward, and Ahmad Bradshaw for the Giants. Marion Barber, Felix Jones, and Tashard Choice were a solid trio. Hasn't been a lot of em for sure.
 
Can y’all point me to recent examples of perceived 3-headed monsters that stayed that way? Don’t they more or less settle into a duo and #3 is either a 4-phase ST or inactive?
Good point - the third RB active on game days presumably have to play ST to remain active. Not sure if either Irving or Tucker do, but I don't think Irving stands to be inactive given his fuller body of work this year.
 
Can y’all point me to recent examples of perceived 3-headed monsters that stayed that way? Don’t they more or less settle into a duo and #3 is either a 4-phase ST or inactive?
Off the top of my head I remember
Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward, and Ahmad Bradshaw for the Giants. Marion Barber, Felix Jones, and Tashard Choice were a solid trio. Hasn't been a lot of em for sure.
Of those groups, IIRC Ward was a special teams demon and I think Choice was too.
 
Can y’all point me to recent examples of perceived 3-headed monsters that stayed that way? Don’t they more or less settle into a duo and #3 is either a 4-phase ST or inactive?
Off the top of my head I remember
Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward, and Ahmad Bradshaw for the Giants. Marion Barber, Felix Jones, and Tashard Choice were a solid trio. Hasn't been a lot of em for sure.

RECENTLY
 
Can y’all point me to recent examples of perceived 3-headed monsters that stayed that way? Don’t they more or less settle into a duo and #3 is either a 4-phase ST or inactive?
Good point - the third RB active on game days presumably have to play ST to remain active. Not sure if either Irving or Tucker do, but I don't think Irving stands to be inactive given his fuller body of work this year.

I edited my post

Tucker will go to back to STer unless injuries hit
 
KC settled into a shifting duo for the most part

Chicago switched backup roles, remained a duo

So few true bell cows - Kyren, King Henry, Saquon (& even then other backs get sprinkled in)
 
Is Rachaad White now considered a "made" guy that wouldn't be asked to contribute on ST sitting on a career 3.7 YPC? Not saying Tucker wouldn't also be in that mix.

I do think there's something to a 3-headed monster not staying static at 33-33-33. Hot hand. Guy gets a little bit nicked and gets scaled back. Guy fumbles, goes to the back of the line. I think the main thing is that Tucker is in now in the competition on relatively level playing ground. There's reason to hope he can rise to the top of it. But yes, he's a LONG ways from being a league winner. More excited to have him in dynasty than re-draft for sure.
 
Can y’all point me to recent examples of perceived 3-headed monsters that stayed that way? Don’t they more or less settle into a duo and #3 is either a 4-phase ST or inactive?
Off the top of my head I remember
Brandon Jacobs, Derrick Ward, and Ahmad Bradshaw for the Giants. Marion Barber, Felix Jones, and Tashard Choice were a solid trio. Hasn't been a lot of em for sure.

RECENTLY
The 2017 SB Eagles did it.

Snap Share: Blount - 31.3%, Clement - 22.63%, Ajayi - 16.53%, Smallwood - 15.3%, Sproles(injured) - 7.87%, Barner 6.81%
 
Is Rachaad White now considered a "made" guy that wouldn't be asked to contribute on ST sitting on a career 3.7 YPC? Not saying Tucker wouldn't also be in that mix.

I do think there's something to a 3-headed monster not staying static at 33-33-33. Hot hand. Guy gets a little bit nicked and gets scaled back. Guy fumbles, goes to the back of the line. I think the main thing is that Tucker is in now in the competition on relatively level playing ground. There's reason to hope he can rise to the top of it. But yes, he's a LONG ways from being a league winner. More excited to have him in dynasty than re-draft for sure.
So, you think after one good game by Tucker and it is suddenly a 3 headed monster? Talk about recency bias. I believe once White is healthy it is business as usual. Meaning, business as it was.
 
Is Rachaad White now considered a "made" guy that wouldn't be asked to contribute on ST sitting on a career 3.7 YPC? Not saying Tucker wouldn't also be in that mix.

I do think there's something to a 3-headed monster not staying static at 33-33-33. Hot hand. Guy gets a little bit nicked and gets scaled back. Guy fumbles, goes to the back of the line. I think the main thing is that Tucker is in now in the competition on relatively level playing ground. There's reason to hope he can rise to the top of it. But yes, he's a LONG ways from being a league winner. More excited to have him in dynasty than re-draft for sure.
So, you think after one good game by Tucker and it is suddenly a 3 headed monster? Talk about recency bias. I believe once White is healthy it is business as usual. Meaning, business as it was.
In fairness, that's exactly what the Head Coach said today:

#Bucs HC Todd Bowles on whether Sean Tucker’s performance has now turned the backfield into a three-headed monster:

“It’s definitely worthy of him making it a three-headed monster. He took advantage of his opportunities… He made some great plays, he caught the ball well out of the backfield. So, that gives us three-headed monsters.”
ETA: link
 
Is Rachaad White now considered a "made" guy that wouldn't be asked to contribute on ST sitting on a career 3.7 YPC? Not saying Tucker wouldn't also be in that mix.

I do think there's something to a 3-headed monster not staying static at 33-33-33. Hot hand. Guy gets a little bit nicked and gets scaled back. Guy fumbles, goes to the back of the line. I think the main thing is that Tucker is in now in the competition on relatively level playing ground. There's reason to hope he can rise to the top of it. But yes, he's a LONG ways from being a league winner. More excited to have him in dynasty than re-draft for sure.
So, you think after one good game by Tucker and it is suddenly a 3 headed monster? Talk about recency bias. I believe once White is healthy it is business as usual. Meaning, business as it was.
Didn't Bowles come out and say it'll be a 3-headed monster? I thought I saw that somewhere.

If he did, it could be all talk and Tucker essentially goes back to the bench. I suspect he's earned at least a few touches a game, though. I'd like to see Tucker be the guy, but who knows if that'll ever happen.
 
This seems like a trap, right? He’s going back to the bench, right?

Every season there is a guy like this that people say avoid, I decide to not bid much FAAB, miss out, and he ends up blowing up ROS…
 
Is Rachaad White now considered a "made" guy that wouldn't be asked to contribute on ST sitting on a career 3.7 YPC? Not saying Tucker wouldn't also be in that mix.

I do think there's something to a 3-headed monster not staying static at 33-33-33. Hot hand. Guy gets a little bit nicked and gets scaled back. Guy fumbles, goes to the back of the line. I think the main thing is that Tucker is in now in the competition on relatively level playing ground. There's reason to hope he can rise to the top of it. But yes, he's a LONG ways from being a league winner. More excited to have him in dynasty than re-draft for sure.
So, you think after one good game by Tucker and it is suddenly a 3 headed monster? Talk about recency bias. I believe once White is healthy it is business as usual. Meaning, business as it was.
In fairness, that's exactly what the Head Coach said today:

#Bucs HC Todd Bowles on whether Sean Tucker’s performance has now turned the backfield into a three-headed monster:

“It’s definitely worthy of him making it a three-headed monster. He took advantage of his opportunities… He made some great plays, he caught the ball well out of the backfield. So, that gives us three-headed monsters.”
ETA: link
According to The Coachspeak Index on Twitter (@Coachspeakindex), Bowles has an 85% reliability rating on depth chart/coachspeak and an 80% reliability rating on usage/workload coachspeak.

Take that for what it's worth - he could also be telling the truth if the three-headed monster results in something like a 5-10% share of the pie for Tucker.
 

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