What's new
Fantasy Football - Footballguys Forums

This is a sample guest message. Register a free account today to become a member! Once signed in, you'll be able to participate on this site by adding your own topics and posts, as well as connect with other members through your own private inbox!

RB Sony Michel (2 Viewers)

Soulfly3 said:
Id be floored if Jones and Penny are drafted before Chubb. 

Also, as an aside, I 100% think Chubb could be the no2 back off the board, even tho he isnt my #2 rated RB
Click to expand...
absolutely. Jones at his size will likely scare some teams away. Guice could fall with some of the stories coming out (don't think he does, however). Chubb/Michel is basically a toss-up in my opinion - when I watch the tape, Chubb stands out to me more.

For what its worth, Waldman is a big fan of Nick Chubb.

 
pbandy1 said:
absolutely. Jones at his size will likely scare some teams away. Guice could fall with some of the stories coming out (don't think he does, however). Chubb/Michel is basically a toss-up in my opinion - when I watch the tape, Chubb stands out to me more.

For what its worth, Waldman is a big fan of Nick Chubb.
Click to expand...
Stories coming out? When? If it’s in the last 2 weeks I call smokescreen. 

 
NFL Media's Lance Zierlein compares Georgia RB Sony Michel to former NFL RB Knowshon Moreno.

Moreno was also a former Bulldog, which makes the comparison a little easier to see. Zierlein notes that Michel has "good burst in his cuts," and that he understands the finer points of setting up blocks with lead blockers and pullers. Zierlein does have some concerns about Michel's agility, and that his open field balance is inconsistent. He's battling with several others to be the second running back off the board in 2018, and Zierlein gives him a second-round grade.

Source: NFL.com 

Apr 21 - 7:27 PM
Click to expand...
 
Soulfly3 said:
Id be floored if Jones and Penny are drafted before Chubb. 

Also, as an aside, I 100% think Chubb could be the no2 back off the board, even tho he isnt my #2 rated RB
Click to expand...
It wouldn’t shock me at all but I guess it would depend on what type of runner the team needs. NFL wise, these three guys are clumped together.

Tex

 
aside from the Georgia reference, it seems like an odd comp imo. Moreno played with more physicality and lacked the top gear and burst on the field that seemingly separates Michel from his peers. i know their 40 times are similar, but it doesn't show up in the tape imo

 
Buffaloes said:
aside from the Georgia reference, it seems like an odd comp imo. Moreno played with more physicality and lacked the top gear and burst on the field that seemingly separates Michel from his peers. i know their 40 times are similar, but it doesn't show up in the tape imo
Click to expand...
agree

 
NFL Mock Draft Roundup 2018: One player is generating some late buzz

Excerpt:

Mike Mayock, another Philly guy, recently moved Michel up to his No. 2 overall running back in this year’s class, only behind Saquon Barkley. Mayock’s rankings aren’t just about what he thinks as much as what he hears, so keep that in mind. Here’s what Mayock had to say about Michel: “I think Sony Michel is a first round talent. I think there’s some concerns out there about his knee and whether or not that would push him in the second round. But I compare him a little bit to Alvin Kamara. I don’t think he catches the ball as well but a similar run game.”
Click to expand...
 
Mike Lombardi says Michel could slip for medical reasons but doesn't say what they are.  Per Rotoworld

Previous post Mayock mentioned his knee

 
Last edited by a moderator:
JohnnyU said:
Mike Lombardi says Michel could slip for medical reasons but doesn't say what they are.  Per Rotoworld

Previous post Mayock mentioned his knee
Click to expand...
Sounds like rumors being spread by a team that wants him to fall to them in the second round.   When we hear about a mysterious injury this close to the draft that's usually what it is.

 
Marauder said:
Sounds like rumors being spread by a team that wants him to fall to them in the second round.   When we hear about a mysterious injury this close to the draft that's usually what it is.
Click to expand...
Some times it works though.

NFL Network's Mike Mayock said Boise State RB Jay Ajayi's knee is "bone on bone."

The concerns surrounding Ajayi's knee in the pre-draft process have proven to be legitimate. An early-round talent, Ajayi's medicals could threaten to push him out of the draft altogether. He will be one of the names to watch on Day 3.

Source: Idaho Statesman

Sat, May 2, 2015 12:04:00 PM
Click to expand...
Mayock was one of the folks saying Ajayi's knee was bone on bone and he fell to the 5th round of the draft when a lot of folks had been predicting he would be a 2nd or 3rd round pick.

Ajayi's injury was from 2011 when he was 18 years old he had a ton of work in College 2013 and 2014, he was drafted in 2015 four years removed from the injury. The rumored source of the information was medical recheck at the combine, but Ajayi didn't have any medical rechecks at the combine.

So why all the concern after three straight seasons of the knee holding up just fine? Well leading up to the draft there were multiple reports from multiple media outlets that various reporters and media outlets had been told by "several executives" that they had either backed off of Ajayi or removed him all together from their draft boards because of how their medical staffs has evaluated the previously surgically repaired knee. There was also a report that surfaced stating that at some point down the road he would require "micro-fracture surgery". Many clubs were reported to be concerned about him holding up physically given all the carries he had in college. Then the famous report surfaced after the draft via ESPN's Adam Schefter that the knee was actually "bone on bone". This according to some of the teams doctors that had examined him prior to the draft.

It's unknown how many teams had their doctors examine him on an individual basis but many of the reports that surfaced claimed to be based on a medical recheck performed at the Indianapolis Scouting Combine. The problem with those reports is that Ajayi did not attend any medical rechecks at the combine. Ajayi's agent, Erik Burkhardt, confirmed via Twitter that he did not and was never even asked to attend the recheck. Some reports claimed that this information had been going around the NFL but what is known is that teams tend to not share medical information obtained from a player in any way even off the record. It seems unlikely that too many GM's would be out there spreading confidential medical information about a player even "off the record" but its not unlikely that some rumor spreading may have otherwise occurred during the season of "misinformation" in the NFL LINK
Click to expand...

 
Mayock only does one mock draft, right? And he waits to release it until right before draft? Mayock is like the wise old owl while Lombardi isn't. They have very different jobs.

 
saintfool said:
Mayock only does one mock draft, right? And he waits to release it until right before draft? Mayock is like the wise old owl while Lombardi isn't. They have very different jobs.
Click to expand...
Wise, yet still 75% wrong come draft day. 

 
Last edited by a moderator:
Soulfly3 said:
Wise, yet still 75% wrong come draft day. 
Click to expand...
Everyone is higher than 75% wrong come draft day. No one knows what Cleveland is doing this year and it’s making reporters write some really stupid ####. All of this because Hue Jackson is the biggest blabbermouth in the NFL. If his retention is coupled with Allen, god help Cleveland.

 
Sony Michel: May slide due to Medical concerns

by RotoWire Staff  4/24/18

Michel (undisclosed) may drop in the upcoming draft due to medical concerns, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports. "There's a lot of teams telling me there's a medical concern here, so he could slip a little bit. His medical grade is a little iffy," said former NFL executive Michael Lombardi.

Though Michel was durable in college having played in 47 games and missing just two contests over the past three seasons, he's still reportedly drawing some concern with the draft approaching. Michel did suffer a knee injury in the SEC Championship in December but showed no ill-effects in the Rose Bowl when he ran for 181 yards and three touchdowns on 11 carries. Whether this is just draft week noise or something that could send Michel sliding down draft boards remains to be seen, but it is something to monitor in the coming days. Michel has been projected to go as high as late in the first round but will likely slide to Day 2 if the medical concerns stick.

 
According to Injury Predictor, Georgia RB Sony Michel tore his ACL in 2011.

This was well before Michel his the college level, but lately buzz has built that teams are concerned about Michel's knee. The star running back also has a broken shoulder blade and fractured left forearm on his history as well.

Source: Injury Predictor on Twitter 

Apr 24 - 10:28 AM
Click to expand...
 
Sony Michel, Fitness Consigliere, will be a 2nd round pick. He'll probably be the 3rd RB taken, possibly 5th if Chubb and Jones fit team needs better. Don't see a scenario where he goes 6th.

 
Faust said:
According to Injury Predictor, Georgia RB Sony Michel tore his ACL in 2011.

This was well before Michel his the college level, but lately buzz has built that teams are concerned about Michel's knee. The star running back also has a broken shoulder blade and fractured left forearm on his history as well.

Source: Injury Predictor on Twitter 

Apr 24 - 10:28 AM
Click to expand...
Who the #### is Injury Predictor? Smells like Grade A BS.

Stinky, stinky, stinky.

 
Mister CIA said:
Who the #### is Injury Predictor? Smells like Grade A BS.

Stinky, stinky, stinky.
Click to expand...
It's a site that collects injury data about players over their entire career.  Not sure it's useful as a predictor but I've seen it before and it has been pretty comprehensive from what i could tell. 

http://sportsinjurypredictor.com

Try typing in a name like Kenneth and see what happens. 

 
saintfool said:
Mayock only does one mock draft, right? And he waits to release it until right before draft? Mayock is like the wise old owl while Lombardi isn't. They have very different jobs.
Click to expand...
Mayock had a limited NFL career and has never worked in an NFL front office whereas Lombardi has been an actual GM and has worked under some of the best minds in history of the NFL.  I don't understand why or how Mayock started being a scouting guru, he's more of a compiler than scout to me, but a well plugged in compiler so I respect his information he provides as well a respecting Lombardi's. Both are well plugged in and I'd not ignore what they have to say.

But as this relates to Michel I finally got around to listening to that podcast. Lombardi did mention the injury situation briefly but that's burying the lead. He had Michel ranked as his #2 RB and I think  8th overall player on offense(this is not fantasy so he had a few OL  and QB's ahead of him). 

 
Patriots selected Georgia RB Sony Michel with the No. 31 overall pick in the 2018 NFL draft.

Michel (5’11/214) was a committee back throughout his Georgia career, compiling a 590/3,613/6.1/33 rushing line and 64 receptions across four years. Michel caught only nine balls as a senior, but he averaged a scintillating 7.9 yards per carry and showed elite burst and acceleration with a consistent propensity for finishing runs and maximizing yardage with a highly competitive playing style. Michel ran 4.54 at the Combine, a tick slower than Alvin Kamara’s 4.53. Although Michel theoretically lacks high-volume bellcow traits and must polish his ball security – he fumbled 12 times in college – Michel is more than talented enough to become an NFL lead back.

Apr 26 - 11:31 PM
Click to expand...
 
Michel fumbling rate in college is a concern if NE can’t correct that issue he’ll have a short career.

Tex

 
Surprised that Belichick would spend a first rounder on a fumble prone RB.

He could be elite if he focuses on ball security and stays healthy

 
King of the Jungle said:
Yuck, rookie draft looking like pretty grim on the surface.
Click to expand...
How so? Barkley and Penny went to places where they’re the undisputed starter. Ridley went to a perfect location for his skill set. Moore who’s often been compared to Steve Smith went to Smiths old team. And granted the Pats have historically used a back rotation, BB took Michel in the first round and there’s not a whole lot of talent in front of him. It could have been a lot worse and not much better. 

 
fruity pebbles said:
How so? Barkley and Penny went to places where they’re the undisputed starter. Ridley went to a perfect location for his skill set. Moore who’s often been compared to Steve Smith went to Smiths old team. And granted the Pats have historically used a back rotation, BB took Michel in the first round and there’s not a whole lot of talent in front of him. It could have been a lot worse and not much better. 
Click to expand...
Good post and you're absolutely right.

 
fruity pebbles said:
How so? Barkley and Penny went to places where they’re the undisputed starter. Ridley went to a perfect location for his skill set. Moore who’s often been compared to Steve Smith went to Smiths old team. And granted the Pats have historically used a back rotation, BB took Michel in the first round and there’s not a whole lot of talent in front of him. It could have been a lot worse and not much better. 
Click to expand...
Lest we forget Mixon and Cook were second rounders and they went top 6 in last year’s rookie drafts.  TB and Indy both have picks coming soon and Guice or Chubb could “fall” into either of those situations. So things could look more like we expected an hour into the second round tonight.

 
fruity pebbles said:
How so? Barkley and Penny went to places where they’re the undisputed starter. Ridley went to a perfect location for his skill set. Moore who’s often been compared to Steve Smith went to Smiths old team. And granted the Pats have historically used a back rotation, BB took Michel in the first round and there’s not a whole lot of talent in front of him. It could have been a lot worse and not much better. 
Click to expand...
You may be right. I like Michel and would have preferred him in pretty much any other spot just because I have been burned so many times by the NE backfield. I am not high on Moore going to Carolina. Cam is not the most accurate and his top WR has averaged 850 yards over the last five years. I would have liked to see either Chubb or Guice hit the first round but if their landing spots are good things will shape up better for the FF landscape. I like Ridley's landing spot but one negative on him is he will turn 24 this year already which is a bummer for dynasty. Hopefully day two and three bring some interesting pairings.  

 
JohnnyU said:
Good post and you're absolutely right.
Click to expand...
I agree. I'm a little surprised by the negativity. Burkhead, Hill and White are such tremendous roadblocks? Lewis saw a heavy workload in the second half of the season. I think Michel could excel in an offense like this.

 
cloppbeast said:
Not a good year to have a 1.03-1.08.
Click to expand...
Way too early to say that, and for sure 1.03 just got a whole lot funner to own.  That could have been pick purgatory, but now you're getting a guy that a lot of people have been pumping up as a dynamic talent and an NFL team just validated plus committed a 1st round pick to the cause. 

 
fruity pebbles said:
How so? Barkley and Penny went to places where they’re the undisputed starter. Ridley went to a perfect location for his skill set. Moore who’s often been compared to Steve Smith went to Smiths old team. And granted the Pats have historically used a back rotation, BB took Michel in the first round and there’s not a whole lot of talent in front of him. It could have been a lot worse and not much better. 
Click to expand...
Exactly

 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

Yogibear
Yogi's 2025 Mock Draft (1st Round)
Replies
9
Views
710
Leroy Hoard
Leroy Hoard
socrates
Early 2026 Dynasty Rookie Draft Rankings
Replies
41
Views
1K
Dacomish
Dacomish
Faust
RB Jo'Quavious “Woody” Marks, HOU
Replies
4
Views
372
Faust
Faust

Users who are viewing this thread

Total: 2 (members: 0, guests: 2)
Back
Top