RB strategy (1 Viewer)

[Deuce'sWild]

I'm thinking of trying to get either the Denver backfield or the Indianapolis backfield in rounds 6 and 7. My thinking is to grab Bell, Dayne or Addai, Rhodes in rd 6 and 7, and then play the starter (once it pans out). The risk is that RBBC could be used and I'd suffer. But the reward is a guaranteed starter in a powerful offense.

Theother side of the coin would be to draft Dayne and Rhodes and hope one of them pans out, or possible both. But then you could miss on both backfields if you guess wrong.

I see the Indy backfield as a lot of Rhodes early, until Addai catches on, and then a solid PPG from Addai from about week 8 on.

Every report from Den is that Dayne is the starter, and Bell is the change of pace (10-15 carries) RB.

Anyone else have any input or suggestions on this strategy?

Bell ADP is 5.01, so he might be hard to get in the 6th

Dayne ADP is 8.06

Addai ADP is 6.04

Rhodes ADP is 8.01

Edit to add that I've been in this league for 5 years now and know the owner tendencies pretty well. Most of them will not draft more 2-3 RBs before they start filling out their rosters. So, with the mocks I've been doing, it's very possible to get Bell at 6.08, unless his ADP drops a bunch.

 

[Darth Cheney]

I'm thinking of trying to get either the Denver backfield or the Indianapolis backfield in rounds 6 and 7. My thinking is to grab Bell, Dayne or Addai, Rhodes in rd 6 and 7, and then play the starter (once it pans out). The risk is that RBBC could be used and I'd suffer. But the reward is a guaranteed starter in a powerful offense.

Theother side of the coin would be to draft Dayne and Rhodes and hope one of them pans out, or possible both. But then you could miss on both backfields if you guess wrong.

I see the Indy backfield as a lot of Rhodes early, until Addai catches on, and then a solid PPG from Addai from about week 8 on.

Every report from Den is that Dayne is the starter, and Bell is the change of pace (10-15 carries) RB.

Anyone else have any input or suggestions on this strategy?

Bell ADP is 5.01, so he might be hard to get in the 6th

Dayne ADP is 8.06

Addai ADP is 6.04

Rhodes ADP is 8.01

I don't think it is a bad strategy but I wouldn't go any higher than the 6th to do it. Depending on your league, I think that you could do it for lower (like 8th, 9th).

 

[David Yudkin]

The difference here is that I see that Bell and Dayne could both be viable fantasy starters without either guy becoming the clear #1. If IND splits the workload pretty evenly, it's possible that neither guy puts up fantasy RB2 numbers.

Edge put up 1840/14. The Anderson/Bell combo put up 2250/21.

We don't know how well Addai or Rhodes will do, but we have a decent idea how Dayne and Bell will do.

 

[Byron_nyc]

I'm drafting at the corner in my main league, and have had similar ideas.

I think Indy is the best one to grab, as its more likely that one of those guys dominates.

Another one to consider is Chester Taylor/Mewelde Moore. That could be a blockbuster.

 

[Deuce'sWild]

The difference here is that I see that Bell and Dayne could both be viable fantasy starters without either guy becoming the clear #1. If IND splits the workload pretty evenly, it's possible that neither guy puts up fantasy RB2 numbers.

Edge put up 1840/14. The Anderson/Bell combo put up 2250/21.

We don't know how well Addai or Rhodes will do, but we have a decent idea how Dayne and Bell will do.

I plan on taking Dunn in the 5th, then Bell, Dayne in the 6th, 7th. I have the 3rd pick and will get Alex, LT or LJ.SA

Owens

Harrison

Roy Williams

Dunn

Bell

Dayne

Something like that would work

 

[cantstop1999]

The difference here is that I see that Bell and Dayne could both be viable fantasy starters without either guy becoming the clear #1.  If IND splits the workload pretty evenly, it's possible that neither guy puts up fantasy RB2 numbers.

Edge put up 1840/14.  The Anderson/Bell combo put up 2250/21.

We don't know how well Addai or Rhodes will do, but we have a decent idea how Dayne and Bell will do.

I plan on taking Dunn in the 5th, then Bell, Dayne in the 6th, 7th. I have the 3rd pick and will get Alex, LT or LJ.SA

Owens

Harrison

Roy Williams

Dunn

Bell

Dayne

Something like that would work

im in the 3 hole too, and im thinking along the same lines but i dont think owens will be there,

 

[David Yudkin]

The difference here is that I see that Bell and Dayne could both be viable fantasy starters without either guy becoming the clear #1.  If IND splits the workload pretty evenly, it's possible that neither guy puts up fantasy RB2 numbers.

Edge put up 1840/14.  The Anderson/Bell combo put up 2250/21.

We don't know how well Addai or Rhodes will do, but we have a decent idea how Dayne and Bell will do.

I plan on taking Dunn in the 5th, then Bell, Dayne in the 6th, 7th. I have the 3rd pick and will get Alex, LT or LJ.SA

Owens

Harrison

Roy Williams

Dunn

Bell

Dayne

Something like that would work

Good luck on those guys being available (assuming a 12-team league). Here are their current ADPs:1.03 SA 3

2.10 Owens 18

3.03 Harrison 23

4.10 Roy Williams 39

5.03 Dunn 35

6.10 Bell 41

7.03 Dayne 74

Unless your league drafts way different than "average," I doubt you'll be able to get those guys.

 

[rzrback77]

You really have to love having the first, secon, or third picks this season. Huge advantage.

 

[cantstop1999]

The difference here is that I see that Bell and Dayne could both be viable fantasy starters without either guy becoming the clear #1.  If IND splits the workload pretty evenly, it's possible that neither guy puts up fantasy RB2 numbers.

Edge put up 1840/14.  The Anderson/Bell combo put up 2250/21.

We don't know how well Addai or Rhodes will do, but we have a decent idea how Dayne and Bell will do.

I plan on taking Dunn in the 5th, then Bell, Dayne in the 6th, 7th. I have the 3rd pick and will get Alex, LT or LJ.SA

Owens

Harrison

Roy Williams

Dunn

Bell

Dayne

Something like that would work

Good luck on those guys being available (assuming a 12-team league). Here are their current ADPs:1.03 SA 3

2.10 Owens 18

3.03 Harrison 23

4.10 Roy Williams 39

5.03 Dunn 35

6.10 Bell 41

7.03 Dayne 74

Unless your league drafts way different than "average," I doubt you'll be able to get those guys.

i totally agree, all the drafts i see r.williams is gone before our 4th out of the 3 hole.

 

[Pick]

The difference here is that I see that Bell and Dayne could both be viable fantasy starters without either guy becoming the clear #1. If IND splits the workload pretty evenly, it's possible that neither guy puts up fantasy RB2 numbers.

Edge put up 1840/14. The Anderson/Bell combo put up 2250/21.

We don't know how well Addai or Rhodes will do, but we have a decent idea how Dayne and Bell will do.

I plan on taking Dunn in the 5th, then Bell, Dayne in the 6th, 7th. I have the 3rd pick and will get Alex, LT or LJ.SA

Owens

Harrison

Roy Williams

Dunn

Bell

Dayne

Something like that would work

Good luck on those guys being available (assuming a 12-team league). Here are their current ADPs:1.03 SA 3

2.10 Owens 18

3.03 Harrison 23

4.10 Roy Williams 39

5.03 Dunn 35

6.10 Bell 41

7.03 Dayne 74

Unless your league drafts way different than "average," I doubt you'll be able to get those guys.

My thoughts as well. He might grab a few of those guys if they drop but they're not all going to drop several spots

 

[Chaos Commish]

Tatum Bell is currently averaging RB 25 with a 12 team ADP of 4.6. If anything this will go up, not down. Expecting him in the 6th is unrealistic. Dayne is going at the end of the 6th or sooner in 12 teamers-- RB34 ADP 6.8. Sorry, but the strategy is wishful thinking, unless your league is that far from normal and actual ADPs are irrelevant.

Addai 4.11

Rhodes 7.4

 

[There it is]

I did this in 1998 with James steward and ® fred Taylor. They had a top O Line and I really wanted the starter. It worked great. It was a ten man league and they still watch out for my "moves" to this day. Keep um off balance.

I had Terrel Davis and could take the chance.

We are a 12 man league now, but most of us have been together since 1991. Yes, we know each others tendencies.

Watch out for wk 6 and 7 byes, 6 teams on byes then.

 

[Slinger]

I lost $800.00 last year due to the Denver backfield. I didn't know who'd start in Week 15.

 

[There it is]

I lost $800.00 last year due to the Denver backfield. I didn't know who'd start in Week 15.

What league??

 

[Deuce'sWild]

The difference here is that I see that Bell and Dayne could both be viable fantasy starters without either guy becoming the clear #1.  If IND splits the workload pretty evenly, it's possible that neither guy puts up fantasy RB2 numbers.

Edge put up 1840/14.  The Anderson/Bell combo put up 2250/21.

We don't know how well Addai or Rhodes will do, but we have a decent idea how Dayne and Bell will do.

I plan on taking Dunn in the 5th, then Bell, Dayne in the 6th, 7th. I have the 3rd pick and will get Alex, LT or LJ.SA

Owens

Harrison

Roy Williams

Dunn

Bell

Dayne

Something like that would work

Good luck on those guys being available (assuming a 12-team league). Here are their current ADPs:1.03 SA 3

2.10 Owens 18

3.03 Harrison 23

4.10 Roy Williams 39

5.03 Dunn 35

6.10 Bell 41

7.03 Dayne 74

Unless your league drafts way different than "average," I doubt you'll be able to get those guys.

This is a 10 team league. And their current ADP as I have it.1.03 SA (1.03)- This one is guaranteed

2.08 Owens (2.08)- Should be there, if not Holt (2.10) will be. Coin toss.

3.03 Harrison (3.03)- Again, should be there. Funny how the 1st three are identical to the ADP.

4.08- R. Williams (5.02)- 4 picks ahead of where his ADP is. If not, Driver is projected similar numbers and he is (5.07 ADP)

5.03- Dunn (4.06)- First one that I may struggle to get, but I've looked at the last 5 years of drafting in this league and Dunn is very undervalued. If not Dunn, then I just take Bell here.

6.08- Bell (5.01)- Again, he'll have to fall, but it's not impossible....if not then I take Addai (6.04). If he's gone I just say the heck with it, and take Dayne and Rhodes.

7.03- Dayne (8.06)- At his current ADP, this is very realistic....but I assume his ADP will go up closer to the season opener.

Won't be easy in the 6th and 7th. But, like I said it may work in the 5th and 6th.

More importantly, I was looking at this being a good strategy or not. Not debating whether or not it could occur....I can adjust to the draft (as I've shown above)

 

[Deuce'sWild]

Tatum Bell is currently averaging RB 25 with a 12 team ADP of 4.6. If anything this will go up, not down. Expecting him in the 6th is unrealistic. Dayne is going at the end of the 6th or sooner in 12 teamers-- RB34 ADP 6.8. Sorry, but the strategy is wishful thinking, unless your league is that far from normal and actual ADPs are irrelevant.

Addai 4.11

Rhodes 7.4

Why would his ADP go up?? I expect Dayne will keep the job in preseason....Bell will go down if that's the case. So, his ADP very well could be in the 6th rd once Dayne is the man.

 

[Chaos Commish]

Tatum Bell is currently averaging RB 25 with a 12 team ADP of 4.6. If anything this will go up, not down. Expecting him in the 6th is unrealistic. Dayne is going at the end of the 6th or sooner in 12 teamers-- RB34 ADP 6.8. Sorry, but the strategy is wishful thinking, unless your league is that far from normal and actual ADPs are irrelevant.

Addai 4.11

Rhodes 7.4

Why would his ADP go up?? I expect Dayne will keep the job in preseason....Bell will go down if that's the case. So, his ADP very well could be in the 6th rd once Dayne is the man.

Those who love Bell are somewhat related to those who simply don't trust Dayne regardless of the news. So if things stay the same, I expect Bell drafters to remain consistent and he'll be gone in the 4th round of 12 teamers. Should things change, they will only change for the better (meaning Bell takes the job outright), in which case he becomes a late second early 3rd rounder. I can bank on this in my leagues. Bell doesn't sniff the 5th round either way. As a CoP he was RB 21 last year. RB 21 with his upside doesn't last 48 picks. In this scenario, Dayne does plummet.Dayne, however, could go like Anderson a year ago and see a meteoric rise in ADP by late August. I expect this to happen. I think they both end up gone by the 4th, and I am speaking directly about my fairly standard redraft here. Your league could be much different, but mine mirrors the ADPs I'm quoting reasonably, with the known Harrison/Manning/Favre/Lewis lovers moving a little early.

I'm pulling ADPs from xperts, where as owner Red explains, the volume of mocks gives him arguably the safest numbers for redrafters. If yours are coming from ants, I agree with the above and don't trust them at all.

Eta: FBGs ADP consensus has Bell at RB23, Dayne RB36. I think those #s agree with my ADPs above late 4th for Tatum, late 6th for Ron.

 

[twistd]

I'm looking at the Foster/Williams pairing. I think Foster will be very productive as long he can stay healthy. I think Foster will be the primary RB as long as he is healthy. But DeAngelo Williams could be very good if he gets a shot. Foster, in a 10 team is going mid-fifth. Williams is going mid-ninth. Carolina's running game was very solid last year. They have a solid line and I think the addition of Keyshawn helps the running game.

 

[MLBrandow]

You really have to love having the first, secon, or third picks this season. Huge advantage.

Portis at 4 is the money spot

 

[chocolate bomber]

You really have to love having the first, secon, or third picks this season. Huge advantage.

No different than any year in a serperntine draft.

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm thinking of trying to get either the Denver backfield or the Indianapolis backfield in rounds 6 and 7. My thinking is to grab Bell, Dayne or Addai, Rhodes in rd 6 and 7, and then play the starter (once it pans out). The risk is that RBBC could be used and I'd suffer. But the reward is a guaranteed starter in a powerful offense.

Theother side of the coin would be to draft Dayne and Rhodes and hope one of them pans out, or possible both. But then you could miss on both backfields if you guess wrong.

I see the Indy backfield as a lot of Rhodes early, until Addai catches on, and then a solid PPG from Addai from about week 8 on.

Every report from Den is that Dayne is the starter, and Bell is the change of pace (10-15 carries) RB.

Anyone else have any input or suggestions on this strategy?

Bell ADP is 5.01, so he might be hard to get in the 6th

Dayne ADP is 8.06

Addai ADP is 6.04

Rhodes ADP is 8.01

Edit to add that I've been in this league for 5 years now and know the owner tendencies pretty well. Most of them will not draft more 2-3 RBs before they start filling out their rosters. So, with the mocks I've been doing, it's very possible to get Bell at 6.08, unless his ADP drops a bunch.

One of either Bell or dayne will be a 3rd or higher round pick once preseason starts.As a general strategy, it is not a bad one - I foresee BOTH Den and Ind. giving one or the other of their players the start and the full time role by game 4 or so. I could see a RBBC sitch for a while, but I see one back being the clearly better ff player early in the season.

 

[Marc Levin]

You really have to love having the first, secon, or third picks this season.  Huge advantage.

Portis at 4 is the money spot

disagree - having the #3 pick is the money spot b/c you get one of those "for sure" top-3 backs.Snagging Portis 2nd or 3rd into that next tier (ie - at the 5 or 6 spot) is the next money spot - you hope Edge and/or Barber and/or another back is selected and you get Portis at 5 or 6 - on the backswing, you still have an excellent shot at a great RB2 or a top-3/top-4 WR. I think the drop-off in talent this year will be right at pick-20, meaning the guys picking 1 through 4 really need to nail their top-notch RB correctly.

Of course, this is a big thread hijack and could really use its own thread.

 

[jurb26]

You really have to love having the first, secon, or third picks this season. Huge advantage.

Portis at 4 is the money spot

disagree - having the #3 pick is the money spot b/c you get one of those "for sure" top-3 backs.Snagging Portis 2nd or 3rd into that next tier (ie - at the 5 or 6 spot) is the next money spot - you hope Edge and/or Barber and/or another back is selected and you get Portis at 5 or 6 - on the backswing, you still have an excellent shot at a great RB2 or a top-3/top-4 WR. I think the drop-off in talent this year will be right at pick-20, meaning the guys picking 1 through 4 really need to nail their top-notch RB correctly.

Of course, this is a big thread hijack and could really use its own thread.

Portis will not finish the season in a 2nd tier. He will be in the 1st. 4 is the $$$ spot I agree with Brandow. I alos agree with CC in that I highly doubt this strat works as I see the guys you are targeting being gone before the 6th and 7th rounds. Even in a 10 team league I think its likely they are gone by then. I play in a 10 teamer and I'm not in any way shape or from expecting them to be there.

 

[Marc Levin]

You really have to love having the first, secon, or third picks this season.  Huge advantage.

Portis at 4 is the money spot

disagree - having the #3 pick is the money spot b/c you get one of those "for sure" top-3 backs.Snagging Portis 2nd or 3rd into that next tier (ie - at the 5 or 6 spot) is the next money spot - you hope Edge and/or Barber and/or another back is selected and you get Portis at 5 or 6 - on the backswing, you still have an excellent shot at a great RB2 or a top-3/top-4 WR. I think the drop-off in talent this year will be right at pick-20, meaning the guys picking 1 through 4 really need to nail their top-notch RB correctly.

Of course, this is a big thread hijack and could really use its own thread.

Portis will not finish the season in a 2nd tier. He will be in the 1st. 4 is the $$$ spot I agree with Brandow. I alos agree with CC in that I highly doubt this strat works as I see the guys you are targeting being gone before the 6th and 7th rounds. Even in a 10 team league I think its likely they are gone by then. I play in a 10 teamer and I'm not in any way shape or from expecting them to be there.

he's my #4 RB, too, but he's FIRMLY my #4.Therefore, grabbing one of the first three is, IMO, a significantly greater move than getting Portis at 4.

Getting Portis at FIVE or SIX is a sweet move.

Three is the sweet spot b/c you are guaranteed one of those top-3 RBs. At 4, taking Portis is, IMO, the smartest move, but you are, at best, getting 0-sum value for the pick.

Why in the heck is Portis at 4 a sweet spot over the #3 spot????

 

[jurb26]

Why in the heck is Portis at 4 a sweet spot over the #3 spot????

Because he will finish higher than at least 2 of those guys you think are "top 3."

 

[Marc Levin]

Why in the heck is Portis at 4 a sweet spot over the #3 spot????

Because he will finish higher than at least 2 of those guys you think are "top 3."

in your opinion.So, you have Portis ranked as the #2 fantasy RB this year?

 

[jurb26]

Why in the heck is Portis at 4 a sweet spot over the #3 spot????

Because he will finish higher than at least 2 of those guys you think are "top 3."

in your opinion.So, you have Portis ranked as the #2 fantasy RB this year?

No, #1.

 

[Marc Levin]

Why in the heck is Portis at 4 a sweet spot over the #3 spot????

Because he will finish higher than at least 2 of those guys you think are "top 3."

in your opinion.So, you have Portis ranked as the #2 fantasy RB this year?

No, #1.

Then I understand your slant now.For those who see the top-3 then Portis and/or other RBs, #3 is the sweet spot.

 

[Routilla]

Why in the heck is Portis at 4 a sweet spot over the #3 spot????

Because he will finish higher than at least 2 of those guys you think are "top 3."

in your opinion.So, you have Portis ranked as the #2 fantasy RB this year?

No, #1.

why?

 

[jurb26]

Why in the heck is Portis at 4 a sweet spot over the #3 spot????

Because he will finish higher than at least 2 of those guys you think are "top 3."

in your opinion.So, you have Portis ranked as the #2 fantasy RB this year?

No, #1.

why?

In short (because it's been covered already in other threads), I think he has the talent and opportunity to do so.

 

[Routilla]

This is the 1st thread I've seen anyone rank CP at #1. It's been LJ, SA, LT2 in some order. That's why I ask. It's not like CP is in a position to leap 6 or so spots from last year AND overtake these 3 guys. WAS signed 2 FA WRs. I would think they plan on throwing more if anything. Again, what makes you think he would be #1? They all have talent and opportunity, why the big jump from #6(that's where he finished in my league).

 

[jurb26]

This is the 1st thread I've seen anyone rank CP at #1. It's been LJ, SA, LT2 in some order. That's why I ask. It's not like CP is in a position to leap 6 or 7 spots from last year AND overtake these 3 guys. WAS signed 2 FA WRs. I would think they plan on throwing more if anything. Again, what makes you think he would be #1?

This is hijacking a good thread. I'm not about to get into it here. Link

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[lebowski]

I'm looking at the Foster/Williams pairing. I think Foster will be very productive as long  he can stay healthy. I think Foster will be the primary RB as long as he is healthy. But DeAngelo Williams could be very good if he gets a shot. Foster, in a 10 team is going mid-fifth. Williams is going mid-ninth. Carolina's running game was very solid last year. They have a solid line and I think the addition of Keyshawn helps the running game.

I like this one too. the biggest problem I am having with this strategy is if you go RB WR WR you are not guarunteed one of those pairings on the round 4-5 swing. I like the idea but I just worry about being stuck with only one starting RB. Foster most likely would be there on the 4-5 swing. I'm thinking something more like...Alexander

Owens

Chambers

Foster

Williams

I know this is a little early for Williams but his ADP is 69 according to FBG's which is about 5.8. I Really think if you want to go this strategy you can't wait. What you could do is assume some pairing of RB will be availible at 4/5 and go for it.

Other pairings to consider...

Jones/Benson

Dillon/Maroney

 

[Routilla]

This is the 1st thread I've seen anyone rank CP at #1.  It's been LJ, SA, LT2 in some order.  That's why I ask.  It's not like CP is in a position to leap 6 or 7 spots from last year AND overtake these 3 guys.  WAS signed 2 FA WRs.  I would think they plan on throwing more if anything.  Again, what makes you think he would be #1?

This is hijacking a good thread. I'm not about to get into it here. Link

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The 2nd to the last link was about Portis, the others focused on LJ, SA, LT2 as the top 3. Thanks for proving my point. I was not trying to hijack this thread. It was just the 1st thread I've seen with CP being projected as #1. I would have had the same reaction to Eli Manning being the #1 QB or H. Ward being the #1 WR. No offense intended.Now concerning the original post in this thread. I think either the IND or the DEN combo would be a good strategy if you were able to get one of the top 3 RBs. Both IND and DEN should be ahead or tied most of every game to the point that their offenses will not be forced into throwing to play catch up. I would think all 4 RBs in question will get their touches most every Sunday.

 

[jurb26]

This is the 1st thread I've seen anyone rank CP at #1. It's been LJ, SA, LT2 in some order. That's why I ask. It's not like CP is in a position to leap 6 or 7 spots from last year AND overtake these 3 guys. WAS signed 2 FA WRs. I would think they plan on throwing more if anything. Again, what makes you think he would be #1?

This is hijacking a good thread. I'm not about to get into it here. Link

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The 2nd to the last link was about Portis, the others focused on LJ, SA, LT2 as the top 3. Thanks for proving my point. I was not trying to hijack this thread. It was just the 1st thread I've seen with CP being projected as #1. I would have had the same reaction to Eli Manning being the #1 QB or H. Ward being the #1 WR. No offense intended.Now concerning the original post in this thread. I think either the IND or the DEN combo would be a good strategy if you were able to get one of the top 3 RBs. Both IND and DEN should be ahead or tied most of every game to the point that their offenses will not be forced into throwing to play catch up. I would think all 4 RBs in question will get their touches most every Sunday.

I'll trust you can search more on your own. These were just the 1st 5 I found. You said you had not seen anyone rank Portis #1 yet. All of those threads have people ranking him #1. Not sure how this proved your point in the least but good day to you. I'm not about to do all the work for you.

 

[Marc Levin]

This is the 1st thread I've seen anyone rank CP at #1.  It's been LJ, SA, LT2 in some order.  That's why I ask.  It's not like CP is in a position to leap 6 or 7 spots from last year AND overtake these 3 guys.  WAS signed 2 FA WRs.  I would think they plan on throwing more if anything.  Again, what makes you think he would be #1?

This is hijacking a good thread. I'm not about to get into it here. Link

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I'm actually in the "big year for Portis" camp. Primarily due to the addition of Al Saunders and the realization that both Faulk and Holmes were easily the #1 FF RBs in years in which their teams threw the ball 60% of the time.

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm looking at the Foster/Williams pairing. I think Foster will be very productive as long  he can stay healthy. I think Foster will be the primary RB as long as he is healthy. But DeAngelo Williams could be very good if he gets a shot. Foster, in a 10 team is going mid-fifth. Williams is going mid-ninth. Carolina's running game was very solid last year. They have a solid line and I think the addition of Keyshawn helps the running game.

I like this one too. the biggest problem I am having with this strategy is if you go RB WR WR you are not guarunteed one of those pairings on the round 4-5 swing. I like the idea but I just worry about being stuck with only one starting RB. Foster most likely would be there on the 4-5 swing. I'm thinking something more like...Alexander

Owens

Chambers

Foster

Williams

I know this is a little early for Williams but his ADP is 69 according to FBG's which is about 5.8. I Really think if you want to go this strategy you can't wait. What you could do is assume some pairing of RB will be availible at 4/5 and go for it.

Other pairings to consider...

Jones/Benson

Dillon/Maroney

Thanks for re-directing us.I still see the Indie and Den running games being the best handcuffs - at least right now. Tennessee and New England may emerge as such situations - as might NO.

 

[lebowski]

I'm looking at the Foster/Williams pairing. I think Foster will be very productive as long he can stay healthy. I think Foster will be the primary RB as long as he is healthy. But DeAngelo Williams could be very good if he gets a shot. Foster, in a 10 team is going mid-fifth. Williams is going mid-ninth. Carolina's running game was very solid last year. They have a solid line and I think the addition of Keyshawn helps the running game.

I like this one too. the biggest problem I am having with this strategy is if you go RB WR WR you are not guarunteed one of those pairings on the round 4-5 swing. I like the idea but I just worry about being stuck with only one starting RB. Foster most likely would be there on the 4-5 swing. I'm thinking something more like...Alexander

Owens

Chambers

Foster

Williams

I know this is a little early for Williams but his ADP is 69 according to FBG's which is about 5.8. I Really think if you want to go this strategy you can't wait. What you could do is assume some pairing of RB will be availible at 4/5 and go for it.

Other pairings to consider...

Jones/Benson

Dillon/Maroney

Thanks for re-directing us.I still see the Indie and Den running games being the best handcuffs - at least right now. Tennessee and New England may emerge as such situations - as might NO.

I like NO too but that one would be risky drafting on the corner. You would have to take Bush with the #3 and hope McCallister slides to the 4th (with his ADP right now that is a bit of a risk). Personally I think you should do something more like that though... take a RB with a good handcuff in the 3rd. Going RB WR WR makes me sweat a bit, but if the recievers are there you have to consider it. Worst case senario leaves you with 2nd backs like F. Taylor and C Martin. Not the 1st choice of anyone but if you can count on getting RB's like that in the 5th or 6th round it is not that bad.

 

[Chaos Commish]

I probably shouldn't but...

I think Gore/Barlow might be an excellent option. In these scenarios, as Marc pointed out, we're hoping one player takes over but cannot be sure who he is. It's handcuffing two unknowns to own a known. Gore and Barlow are the cheapest of those mentioned. Turner has history of riding a feature back. But they stink, right? Well, Newberry is a heck of a center when healthy and he is. Larry Allen has slipped in pass protection, but he is still a top notch road grader and a big big upgrade. Jonas Jennings may be over paid and over rated, but like Allen he too is a nice road grader and another massive upgrade to the OL. Remember Willis walking into the endzone behind him over and over again? This threesome forms a very very underrated run blocking left side. On the other side Adam Snyder made great strides last year and I think the 9ers stole him in the draft. The line is much better than most think. Gore and Barlow are both talents, despite the many injuries and work ethic issues. The schedule is sweet. Combine all that with their ADPs and I think a very cheap RB3 with built in injury insurance is available while leaving you earlier picks to load up on WRs, a quality TE, or whatever you fancy. It's not as sexy as Denver or Indy RBs, but it is more realistic and could land you a combination of Gates, DJax, Brady, Plax, AJ and the like.

Before the Barlow haters jump in, I'll preempt by saying I too believe he dogged it after getting the big contract, but he "played" like the studly looking Barlow last year. The openings just didn't come, but the effort was there, and "watching" him, not reading boxscores, showed a talented guy in a tough situation. He has nice hands, moves, power, and could win the job. Norv will pick the right guy. Gore may be an exceptional natural runner if given the chance.

They're cheap. The OL is really coming along. EBF? Other Niner homers? Am I making sense?

 

[jurb26]

I probably shouldn't but...

I think Gore/Barlow might be an excellent option. In these scenarios, as Marc pointed out, we're hoping one player takes over but cannot be sure who he is. It's handcuffing two unknowns to own a known. Gore and Barlow are the cheapest of those mentioned. Turner has history of riding a feature back. But they stink, right? Well, Newberry is a heck of a center when healthy and he is. Larry Allen has slipped in pass protection, but he is still a top notch road grader and a big big upgrade. Jonas Jennings may be over paid and over rated, but like Allen he too is a nice road grader and another massive upgrade to the OL. Remember Willis walking into the endzone behind him over and over again? This threesome forms a very very underrated run blocking left side. On the other side Adam Snyder made great strides last year and I think the 9ers stole him in the draft. The line is much better than most think. Gore and Barlow are both talents, despite the many injuries and work ethic issues. The schedule is sweet. Combine all that with their ADPs and I think a very cheap RB3 with built in injury insurance is available while leaving you earlier picks to load up on WRs, a quality TE, or whatever you fancy. It's not as sexy as Denver or Indy RBs, but it is more realistic and could land you a combination of Gates, DJax, Brady, Plax, AJ and the like.

Before the Barlow haters jump in, I'll preempt by saying I too believe he dogged it after getting the big contract, but he "played" like the studly looking Barlow last year. The openings just didn't come, but the effort was there, and "watching" him, not reading boxscores, showed a talented guy in a tough situation. He has nice hands, moves, power, and could win the job. Norv will pick the right guy. Gore may be an exceptional natural runner if given the chance.

They're cheap. The OL is really coming along. EBF? Other Niner homers? Am I making sense?

This is the one I'm targeting. It will come very cheap and I'm almost certain the running game will improve in SF..... it simply has to right?Oh forgot to mention. ADPs of round 7 and 10 right now.

 

[Marc Levin]

I'm looking at the Foster/Williams pairing. I think Foster will be very productive as long  he can stay healthy. I think Foster will be the primary RB as long as he is healthy. But DeAngelo Williams could be very good if he gets a shot. Foster, in a 10 team is going mid-fifth. Williams is going mid-ninth. Carolina's running game was very solid last year. They have a solid line and I think the addition of Keyshawn helps the running game.

I like this one too. the biggest problem I am having with this strategy is if you go RB WR WR you are not guarunteed one of those pairings on the round 4-5 swing. I like the idea but I just worry about being stuck with only one starting RB. Foster most likely would be there on the 4-5 swing. I'm thinking something more like...Alexander

Owens

Chambers

Foster

Williams

I know this is a little early for Williams but his ADP is 69 according to FBG's which is about 5.8. I Really think if you want to go this strategy you can't wait. What you could do is assume some pairing of RB will be availible at 4/5 and go for it.

Other pairings to consider...

Jones/Benson

Dillon/Maroney

Thanks for re-directing us.I still see the Indie and Den running games being the best handcuffs - at least right now. Tennessee and New England may emerge as such situations - as might NO.

I like NO too but that one would be risky drafting on the corner. You would have to take Bush with the #3 and hope McCallister slides to the 4th (with his ADP right now that is a bit of a risk). Personally I think you should do something more like that though... take a RB with a good handcuff in the 3rd. Going RB WR WR makes me sweat a bit, but if the recievers are there you have to consider it. Worst case senario leaves you with 2nd backs like F. Taylor and C Martin. Not the 1st choice of anyone but if you can count on getting RB's like that in the 5th or 6th round it is not that bad.

Yeah - if you are in the middle, it is a risky play - it seems like an ideal selection for someone at the ends - the risk is much less if you are drafting 1-3 and then go WR-WR at the 2/3 turn. That makes spending two picks at 4/5 on RB more palatable.

 

[Marc Levin]

It's handcuffing two unknowns to own a known.

well spoken

 

[kwille]

It's handcuffing two unknowns to own a known. 

Try saying that to someone who doesn't play Fantasy Football ...

 

[joffer]

I probably shouldn't but...

I think Gore/Barlow might be an excellent option. In these scenarios, as Marc pointed out, we're hoping one player takes over but cannot be sure who he is. It's handcuffing two unknowns to own a known. Gore and Barlow are the cheapest of those mentioned. Turner has history of riding a feature back. But they stink, right? Well, Newberry is a heck of a center when healthy and he is. Larry Allen has slipped in pass protection, but he is still a top notch road grader and a big big upgrade. Jonas Jennings may be over paid and over rated, but like Allen he too is a nice road grader and another massive upgrade to the OL. Remember Willis walking into the endzone behind him over and over again? This threesome forms a very very underrated run blocking left side. On the other side Adam Snyder made great strides last year and I think the 9ers stole him in the draft. The line is much better than most think. Gore and Barlow are both talents, despite the many injuries and work ethic issues. The schedule is sweet. Combine all that with their ADPs and I think a very cheap RB3 with built in injury insurance is available while leaving you earlier picks to load up on WRs, a quality TE, or whatever you fancy. It's not as sexy as Denver or Indy RBs, but it is more realistic and could land you a combination of Gates, DJax, Brady, Plax, AJ and the like.

Before the Barlow haters jump in, I'll preempt by saying I too believe he dogged it after getting the big contract, but he "played" like the studly looking Barlow last year. The openings just didn't come, but the effort was there, and "watching" him, not reading boxscores, showed a talented guy in a tough situation. He has nice hands, moves, power, and could win the job. Norv will pick the right guy. Gore may be an exceptional natural runner if given the chance.

They're cheap. The OL is really coming along. EBF? Other Niner homers? Am I making sense?

agree, this is a decent option as a handcuff, with the benefit of being able to get it incredibly late.

 

[Marc Levin]

my problem with the SF running game handcuff is I could easily envision RBBC all year long and/or in-game flip flops as the team struggles to find the right mix.

Moreover, even if one or the other wins out, that doesn not mean that the player will consistently put up enough numbers to warrant an RB2 start.

Wheras if one or the other of the Denver, Indie, Tenn, or NO RBs wins the outright starting spot, it is highly likely that player will put up numbers worthy of the RB2 start.

Platooning a flex spot, OTOH, is better for the SF running game.

 

[There it is]

I'm thinking of trying to get either the Denver backfield or the Indianapolis backfield in rounds 6 and 7. My thinking is to grab Bell, Dayne or Addai, Rhodes in rd 6 and 7, and then play the starter (once it pans out). The risk is that RBBC could be used and I'd suffer. But the reward is a guaranteed starter in a powerful offense.

Theother side of the coin would be to draft Dayne and Rhodes and hope one of them pans out, or possible both. But then you could miss on both backfields if you guess wrong.

I see the Indy backfield as a lot of Rhodes early, until Addai catches on, and then a solid PPG from Addai from about week 8 on.

Every report from Den is that Dayne is the starter, and Bell is the change of pace (10-15 carries) RB.

Anyone else have any input or suggestions on this strategy?

Bell ADP is 5.01, so he might be hard to get in the 6th

Dayne ADP is 8.06

Addai ADP is 6.04

Rhodes ADP is 8.01

Edit to add that I've been in this league for 5 years now and know the owner tendencies pretty well. Most of them will not draft more 2-3 RBs before they start filling out their rosters. So, with the mocks I've been doing, it's very possible to get Bell at 6.08, unless his ADP drops a bunch.

I was under the impression that you were going Back to back, 6 and 7 rnds. Thats fine and how I did it before, but if you are allowing pick in between (that you can not control or know how they will go) then it's just a risky ffb strategy that you can not predict the outcome(relying on luck). Back to back and you rock them draft 1 and plan on getting the other,just another ffb move.

 

[Marc Levin]

I was under the impression that you were going Back to back, 6 and 7 rnds. Thats fine and how I did it before, but if you are allowing pick in between (that you can not control or know how they will go) then it's just a risky ffb strategy that you can not predict the outcome(relying on luck). Back to back and you rock them draft 1 and plan on getting the other,just another ffb move.

Except, by TC, either Dayne or Bell will be a 3rd or 4th round RB and either Adai or Rhodes will be a 4th or 5th round RB - if not higher.

 

[lebowski]

I'm thinking of trying to get either the Denver backfield or the Indianapolis backfield in rounds 6 and 7. My thinking is to grab Bell, Dayne or Addai, Rhodes in rd 6 and 7, and then play the starter (once it pans out). The risk is that RBBC could be used and I'd suffer. But the reward is a guaranteed starter in a powerful offense.

Theother side of the coin would be to draft Dayne and Rhodes and hope one of them pans out, or possible both. But then you could miss on both backfields if you guess wrong.

I see the Indy backfield as a lot of Rhodes early, until Addai catches on, and then a solid PPG from Addai from about week 8 on.

Every report from Den is that Dayne is the starter, and Bell is the change of pace (10-15 carries) RB.

Anyone else have any input or suggestions on this strategy?

Bell ADP is 5.01, so he might be hard to get in the 6th

Dayne ADP is 8.06

Addai ADP is 6.04

Rhodes ADP is 8.01

Edit to add that I've been in this league for 5 years now and know the owner tendencies pretty well. Most of them will not draft more 2-3 RBs before they start filling out their rosters. So, with the mocks I've been doing, it's very possible to get Bell at 6.08, unless his ADP drops a bunch.

I was under the impression that you were going Back to back, 6 and 7 rnds. Thats fine and how I did it before, but if you are allowing pick in between (that you can not control or know how they will go) then it's just a risky ffb strategy that you can not predict the outcome(relying on luck). Back to back and you rock them draft 1 and plan on getting the other,just another ffb move.

I don't think any of those options would be there in 6/7 in a 12 man league. 8 man league probably but not 12.

 

[lebowski]

I was under the impression that you were going Back to back, 6 and 7 rnds. Thats fine and how I did it before, but if you are allowing pick in between (that you can not control or know how they will go) then it's just a risky ffb strategy that you can not predict the outcome(relying on luck). Back to back and you rock them draft 1 and plan on getting the other,just another ffb move.

Except, by TC, either Dayne or Bell will be a 3rd or 4th round RB and either Adai or Rhodes will be a 4th or 5th round RB - if not higher.

RIGHT! Dayne/Bell would work at the end of the 3/4th round and Addai/Rhodes would be better at the end of the 4/5th round...so it depends where you pick.

 

[Marc Levin]

I was under the impression that you were going Back to back, 6 and 7 rnds. Thats fine and how I did it before, but if you are allowing pick in between (that you can not control or know how they will go) then it's just a risky ffb strategy that you can not predict the outcome(relying on luck). Back to back and you rock them   draft 1 and plan on getting the other,just another ffb move.

Except, by TC, either Dayne or Bell will be a 3rd or 4th round RB and either Adai or Rhodes will be a 4th or 5th round RB - if not higher.

RIGHT! Dayne/Bell would work at the end of the 3/4th round and Addai/Rhodes would be better at the end of the 4/5th round...so it depends where you pick.

3/4 if you are picking 10th-12th4/5 if you are picking 1-3 and you went RB-WR-WR/QB

I would feel comfortable with LT/SA/LJ, plus two top WRs, plus platooning the Ind or Den run games at RB2 and then addressing QB, TE, RB5, and WR3 in rounds 6-9.