LawFitz
Footballguy
Priority add in my start 2 Lumberjacks league
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RB Tyler Allgeier, ATL (2 Viewers)
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eighsse2
Footballguy
Dynasty? Pacheco. Seasonal? Eh, I could go either way.
eighsse2
Footballguy
I'd lean Allgeier.
bostonfred
Footballguy
He played his first NFL game against Aaron Donald. Forget the yards per carry, he got 10 carries. The Falcons do not want to have Cordarelle get 20 touches a game. Patterson had 10 rushes against the Rams too (for 41 yards if you're curious).
Allgeier has an opportunity to get half their rushing, maybe even more if he earns it. He's got the size and vision for goal line carries if he earns them.
The Falcons are 0-2 but they have been really competitive in games this year. I don't care about their record, i just care that they're not in hurry up passing mode from the third quarter on, and they aren't.
I'm higher on his talent than a lot of you seem to be, so take that with a grain of salt.
Allgeier has an opportunity to get half their rushing, maybe even more if he earns it. He's got the size and vision for goal line carries if he earns them.
The Falcons are 0-2 but they have been really competitive in games this year. I don't care about their record, i just care that they're not in hurry up passing mode from the third quarter on, and they aren't.
I'm higher on his talent than a lot of you seem to be, so take that with a grain of salt.
The General
Footballguy
CPat probably just getting vet rest but has missed 2 practices in a row.
This kid would be getting the bulk of the carries and has looked sort of ok, right?
This kid would be getting the bulk of the carries and has looked sort of ok, right?
zamboni
Footballguy
Hard to say yet whether it will be him or a 2-way or 3-way committee with him, Huntley and/or Damien Williams (who is eligible to come back from IR).
squistion
Footballguy
Perhaps wishful thinking on my part as I own him in 8 of my 9 Dynasty Leagues.
However, I acquired him based on his highlights reel, where he looked like lead RB material to me. We will see.
zamboni
Footballguy
True, not the best matchups (on paper at least), but a potential starting RB - for perhaps the rest of the year even when Patterson returns - has a lot of value. I would throw a lot of FAAB in waivers if he were available.
What round was this guy drafted? He was touted prior to drafts, but I must say, not sure he's been passing my own personal eye test.
Hes nothing special but in the world of fantasy hes a warm body getting touches on a team that likes to run the ball which gives him value.
zamboni
Footballguy
5th, but especially in today's NFL, not sure you can make an assessment on RB talent based on draft position. Time has shown it's often a plug and play position and many guys can and have been late round draft picks, or not drafted at all.
squistion
Footballguy
For some reason he fell to the 5th round, despite an impressive highlight reel and his 2021 season stats at BYU of:
1601 rushing yards (and 2 back-to-back 1000 yard seasons)
23 rushing touchdowns
50 broken tackles
I think he did poorly at the combine, with a slow 40 time (I believe he is one of those players with game speed rather than straight line speed)
Edited to add:
Found his BYU highlight reel
Tyler Allgeier || BYU Cougars Running Back || 2021 Sophomore Highlights
Tyler Allgeier 2021 sophomore season highlights. 249 Rushes, 1,414 Rushing Yards, 20 Rushing Touchdowns, 26 Receptions, 187 Receiving Yards.We do not own the...
www.youtube.com
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The Frankman
Footballguy
The Frankman
Footballguy
bostonfred
Footballguy
We've missed a couple updates since the last post in this thread
85 total yards and a touchdown while getting outrushed by Huntley
123 total yards despite Patterson being back and Huntley getting 7 rushes
Allgeier seems to have established himself as a big part of one of the most run heavy offenses in the NFL, a team which is currently in the lead in the NFC south.
He's got 4 catches for 70 yards and a touchdown in his last 2 games.
He could easily get replaced especially if the Falcons pounce on Bijan. But he might just be good.
85 total yards and a touchdown while getting outrushed by Huntley
123 total yards despite Patterson being back and Huntley getting 7 rushes
Allgeier seems to have established himself as a big part of one of the most run heavy offenses in the NFL, a team which is currently in the lead in the NFC south.
He's got 4 catches for 70 yards and a touchdown in his last 2 games.
He could easily get replaced especially if the Falcons pounce on Bijan. But he might just be good.
The Frankman
Footballguy
TartanLion
Footballguy
Every Tyler Allgeier rush from 139-yard game | Week 15
Watch every Atlanta Falcons running back Tyler Allgeier rush from Week 15 against the New Orleans Saints.
I have to say I quite like him. Got him stashed in a few dynasty leagues. He’s actually got a bit more burst on him than I thought, and he has the strength to do the tough running. Would be great to see him push on from this performance and finish the season strongly
GroveDiesel
Footballguy
Looking ahead 2 weeks when many leagues have their Championship, the Falcons are playing Arizona. Allgeier may be a good early pickup this week as a wait and see if you are thin at RB/Flex.
joey
Footballguy
He’s in my consolation bracket starting line up this coming week because a) my team stinks, hence being in the consolation bracket and b) because I didn’t start him this past weekend where he would’ve put me in contention for a 1st thru 4th pick instead of the 5th or 6th pick.
hoping he’s part of my dynasty rebuild (along with Walker and Olave) from my 2022 draft.
hoping he’s part of my dynasty rebuild (along with Walker and Olave) from my 2022 draft.
eighsse2
Footballguy
Is it just me, or is this guy's last name clearly of Germanic origin, and pronounced [ALL guy er]? Haven't heard anyone on TV call him anything other than [al JEER] as if it had to do with the capital of Algeria. Granted, I know this is English, so words from other languages (or even native words) can change pronunciation on the whim of the people. But really. "Algier"?
TampaMike19
Footballguy
Favorite draft target next year if they don’t invest heavily
Down Under
Footballguy
I've always heard All-guy-er
TartanLion
Footballguy
210 - 1035 yds- 4.9 ave - 3 TDs - 16 rec - 139yds - 1TD
Only rookie RB to get 1k yards
Atlanta have a lot of other needs. Something to be said for a durable tank with quick enough feet who seems like he always gets a few extra yards.
Only rookie RB to get 1k yards
Atlanta have a lot of other needs. Something to be said for a durable tank with quick enough feet who seems like he always gets a few extra yards.
Foosball God
Foos
Welp, this dynasty pick just went into the toilet. Sigh.
jm192
Footballguy
Between Michael Carter last year and Allgier this year--we've seen these guys with late round draft capital aren't safe long term assets.
I have no idea what his going price was, but unless they're offering pennies on the dollar--I think you've got to strike when the iron is hot and sell high on these guys.
pinkstapler
Footballguy
I understand to owners it's a bummer of a landing spot for Bijan. But I don't really get the worthless argument. Or that much was even lost when considering initial investment. Even if you were hyped on him you couldn't have taken him much earlier than late 2nd round in rookie drafts. ADP where most people got him was in the mid-3rd. He was going around Zamir White, TDP, Brian Robinson, Jalen Tolbert, Khalil Shakir, Romeo Doubs... I mean are any of them worth more than Allgeier even after this draft pick? He has a 1000k yard season under his belt as a rookie, on a team that was the 3rd ranked rushing team in the league this year that just spent 1.08 on another RB; so I think they are pretty committed to staying a run first, run often team. Unless you just traded for him in the last few months, you're still over your initial investment value on him.
On top of that, and this is obvious projection, but CPatt is 32 years old, injury prone, and it's hard not to look at 2021 like the outlier in an otherwise meh career at RB. I foresee him being the odd man out in this backfield. Splits are yet to be seen, and Bijan is certainly capable of being an every down back; but what's the likelihood that the team with 560 rushing attempts last season doesn't have a sizable share of those going to Allgeier. He certainly won't be putting up 15 pts. every week, but I don't think it's crazy to think there will be a workload worthy of bye week fill-ins and occasional flex plays. And lastly, no bad wishes to Robinson, but Allgeier is literally one injury away from a starting RB role on this offense and what I'd safely say would be a floor of high end RB2 numbers.
I wouldn't be selling for pennies on the dollar, let alone thinking he's a waste of a roster spot right now. At least not until we see what the carry splits look like. It's not like he's an unproven no name backup. Nor did he put up numbers last year just through pure usage and being the only guy there. He avg 4.9ypc, led rookies in RYOE, only rookie RB to have a positive rushing EPA and positive EPA per carry, dominated in the red zone, took the job away from Patterson even once he returned from injury, and showed big play ability with multiple long runs despite meh speed.
On top of that, and this is obvious projection, but CPatt is 32 years old, injury prone, and it's hard not to look at 2021 like the outlier in an otherwise meh career at RB. I foresee him being the odd man out in this backfield. Splits are yet to be seen, and Bijan is certainly capable of being an every down back; but what's the likelihood that the team with 560 rushing attempts last season doesn't have a sizable share of those going to Allgeier. He certainly won't be putting up 15 pts. every week, but I don't think it's crazy to think there will be a workload worthy of bye week fill-ins and occasional flex plays. And lastly, no bad wishes to Robinson, but Allgeier is literally one injury away from a starting RB role on this offense and what I'd safely say would be a floor of high end RB2 numbers.
I wouldn't be selling for pennies on the dollar, let alone thinking he's a waste of a roster spot right now. At least not until we see what the carry splits look like. It's not like he's an unproven no name backup. Nor did he put up numbers last year just through pure usage and being the only guy there. He avg 4.9ypc, led rookies in RYOE, only rookie RB to have a positive rushing EPA and positive EPA per carry, dominated in the red zone, took the job away from Patterson even once he returned from injury, and showed big play ability with multiple long runs despite meh speed.
JohnnyU
Footballguy
In a dynasty league what is his draft pick value now?
pinkstapler
Footballguy
This is a bad and obvious cop-out answer, but I'd guess it's in heavy limbo right now. Probably not a lot of consensus among 3 main groups. Owners who feel like I stated above, owners in prime panic mode, and non-owners who are putting together their best "hey this guy is trash let me buy him from you for nothing, I'll be doing you a favor" trade proposals together lol. I believe he was hovering around RB20 in March with the concern of them drafting/adding a FA RB baked into that rank. It most definitely has fallen from there. But I'd personally still have him in the RB3 grouping somewhere from 25-36. But seeing as I don't think I could sell him for those prices, for me he's just a hold.
Gun to my head, for actual pick value, if I wasn't an owner I'd be hitting them up seeing if a future 3rd could buy him for me. As an owner, not that I'd expect to get it, I don't think I'd sell for less than a future 2nd, and really question if a late 2nd would move the needle for me (probably in SF leagues). In this years draft I'd only sell him on the clock if a guy I like is falling to that range (for me someone like Roschon/Spears would be an auto sell). Again, I understand that's not likely to happen though. It's certainly a buyers market on him with Bijan landing there. I just have seen way too many seasons in dynasty where mid season waivers are empty and starters are injured and a proven guy like Allgeier on a great running team like he is, even on the low end of split touches, is worth much more than what he is right now. And a Bijan injury could make him a league winner.
League Champion
Footballguy
Nicely done!
rockaction
Footballguy
Whoa. You have to wonder what some people are thinking at times. But I guess a handcuff swap isn't the biggest news ever. It's just that they're already leaving Robinson off the Patriots projected roster.
Dr. Octopus
Footballguy
So he basically gave you Algeier for free.
League Champion
Footballguy
He's still listed as #2 on their depth chart and taking snaps with all the others. Where are you getting that info?
rockaction
Footballguy
I think the Patriots beat writer for The Athletic (Chad Graff) projected the fifty-five man roster and Robinson wasn't on it.
Actually, that's exactly who it was and what he said. Now, that's all speculation and you can put as much stock in it as you'd like, but these guys are generally good at what they're projecting, so it behooves one to note that when trying to suss out value so early in the year.
League Champion
Footballguy
I'd be shocked. James Robinson is a professional RB, exactly what BB loves. Unless he looks like arse then I don't see him going anywhere
