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I’m waiting until Sunday morning inactives come out. If he’s not playing again, he’s gone.
Don't pay any attention to the Ravens RB depth chart. It will have zero bearing on what happens in the game.
Where does this poor pass blocking narrative opinion come from? Genuinely curious. The article quoted above is pretty good.
It seems like the Nassib sack is the source of most of the general community's bad blocking narrative as far as I can tell.
Not trying to discount your opinion, it just seems like your baseline starting fact is, "Williams can't pass block." If that assumption is arguably invalid, what follows doesn't seem to hold a lot of water.
Raiders game he blew two assignments, one leading to Jackson getting blown up.
There was this recent article after the Denver game:
I like PFF just fine but they aren’t making roster and lineup decisions for Baltimore. All I need to know about his pass blocking is that he blew it against the Raiders and got phased out right after. What difference does it make what PFF has to say here.
This.
I never said that Williams isn't good, just that there appear to be some things there the Ravens coaching staff feels he needs to correct. Whether their corrective measures work remain to be seen.
Meh, show me the RB in the NFL who will stop an unimpeded/streaking 6'9" Nassib. Seems to be a lot of hats being hung on that same peg. While I believe that may be irrationally overplayed, there's no question something caused Williams to be deactivated. In his favor, it doesn't look like any other RB is taking the job and running with it.
Shorter: there’s a lot more to football than being fast/carrying the ball.
I believed in him but this is right on the money. I think Williams is also hurt by having a more limited college load
Fail? Yes.
and likely related, a more shallow understanding of the playbook, which hurts the entire offense.
Pretty sure you've said that Murray looks as good as he ever has, and her certainly didn't used to be a plodder.Shorter: there’s a lot more to football than being fast/carrying the ball.
pretty sure I've said this since the day Murray signed: Murray might be a boring plodder, but he’s unlikely to make costly mistakes like getting his QB blowed up on a missed block, or to fumble on the way into the end zone.
Let me get this straight, the guy who spent all of last year on their practice squad (other than one week when he was on the active roster) and all preseason with the team has a more shallow understanding of the playbook than 3 guys who just signed off the street? Your narrative that their offense was so limited in week 1 because of him is just silly.
I said he’s a plodder several times, just like you insisted on misquoting & misrepresenting what I’ve said here several times.
I gave you his YPC over the last 3 years because you said he was “washed”
I misrepresent nor misquote nothing.
Can't have it both ways- either he's always been a plodder (the guy who ran a 4.38 at 223 lbs), or he isn't as good as he used to be (which everyone else on the planet can admit besides you).
Have a nice day.
now who’s wearing his biased glasses .
looked like literally every other Murray TD to me. Again; we all have our opinions.
No bias. Just saying what I’m seeing and sharing an opinion. Thanks for your feedback.
He looked just like he’s always looked to my layman’s eye on MNF & I rostered him for years; but I’ll conceded that I’m not as keen of an observer as you are. I’m just an unfrozen caveman.
I didn’t see Murray at all in the preseason, but 10 carries sure seems like a really small sample size to me compared to his excellent career where as recently as last year he averaged 4.5 ypc, his highest average yardage since his sophomore season.
But again, what do I, a simple caveman know? Your world frightens and confuses me.
Anyway, you have your opinions, and that’s totally ok. Thanks for sharing them with me.
Have a great rest of your weekend.
Seriously. In 2020 Murray had his best YPC (4.5 on 146 carries) since his rookie season (5.2 on just 82 carries), he’s missed 1 game in 4 seasons, and he’s had an almost identical carry total the last 3 seasons. He’s also been a capable receiver out of the backfield, with 22/26, 34/43 & 23/26 the last 3 seasons, respectively.
Yet based on 10 meaningless preseason carries, folks are sticking a fork in him?
Seems like some might be seeing Murray through Williams colored glasses.
To my untrained eye, in that MNF game, Murray looked the same as he has the last several years, & IMO he’s the favorite for production in the Ravens backfield based on experience.
If Williams comes out swinging & takes the job, dominating carries & snap count, I will heartily eat crow right here in this very topic, but I just don’t see it happening.
These two players are not alike. Williams looked quick, sure. He has that “shot out of a cannon” burst of a young RB.
But Murray looks like an NFL running back who’s played in an elite offense for many years. While he wasn’t touched on his TD run, he sure did find the blocks to get there. Some running backs woulda run right into the blockers on that play. That play was more difficult than Murray made it look, and he’s done it for years.
Speed is a good thing. But it isn’t everything.
Should be a fun game SNF. I will continue to hope that I’m wrong here purely for the sake of Williams shareholders. Best of luck to you all, and to everyone tomorrow.
I don't disagree with you Frankman; it's likely you're right about what's keeping him off the field. My point of view is just that on most waiver wires RB's with the upside factors I mentioned above are almost non-existent. Leagues vary of course, context matters, and my perspective comes from 12 man dynasty with fairly deep rosters; in a 10 man redraft I wouldn't give him a second thought (not saying that's your league, just acknowledging that league context makes a significant difference in player values).
Yep, fair point. So there's no real endorsement there, but certainly no indictment either.
Worst thread in the board, and it’s not even close.
Seems pretty likely that there is something (perhaps more than one thing) that they aren't enamored with. Like you said, it could very well be off the field as well. The reality is we may never know what it is as they tend to keep things in house.Uruk-Hai said:
I traded Ty’son to a friend/enemy week 1. He dropped him last week. Then traded Latavius to him this last week as he lost Montgomery.
I would think if anyone it would be Ty’Son. Can’t imagine anyone would give up anything for the other three, who were pulled off the couch and there are probably others like them out there.
Pittsburgh, who had the worst rushing offense in the NFL, just shredded that Denver run defense. That terrible rushing performance falls squarely on the shoulders of their washed up RB's (and Harbaugh for trotting them out there).
