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Read Between the Lines (1 Viewer)

Varmint

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Ok...so the "rich are getting richer".

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2773672/The-rich-richer-400-wealthiest-Americans-worth-2-3TRILLION-34billion-Mark-Zuckerberg-cracks-Forbes-10-time.html

The 400 wealthiest Americans are worth 2.3 trillion dollars!! :shock:

Now, tell me how taxing the rich is going to pay off a debt of 17.8 trillion dollars. :coffee:

The government could take every penny these people have and put it towards paying off the debt....and we would still be 15.5 trillion in the red

How is taxing the rich the answer to anything....except exacting some sort of retribution because of peoples' jealousy?

 
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This article says nothing about political parties or policy.

It simply lists the richest people in America.

I didn't even point out how many of these people listed were contributors to the democratic or republican party.

If someone posted this same article as a condemnation of the rich, you'd jump on the band wagon and demand your "fair share"

You can't call it "partisan"...if anything, this article is a condemnation of the rich.

But why can't you ask the question yourself?

Does everything have to laid out in front of you before you either agree or disagree with it?

The question still stands...."If the 400 wealthiest Americans are worth only 2.3 trillion dollars how can taxing the rich come even close to dealing with our 17.8 trillion dollar debt problem?"

 
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The annual deficit is around $500B this year.

The actual fed income taxes paid rate for the top 5% fell from ~27% in 1980 to ~20% in 2011 (income tax after credits/adjusted gross income).

And there are a lot more than 400 rich people.

HTH!

 
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This article says nothing about political parties or policy.

It simply lists the richest people in America.

I didn't even point out how many of these people listed were contributors to the democratic or republican party.

If someone posted this same article as a condemnation of the rich, you'd jump on the band wagon and demand your "fair share"

You can't call it "partisan"...if anything, this article is a condemnation of the rich.

But why can't you ask the question yourself?

Does everything have to laid out in front of you before you either agree or disagree with it?

The question still stands...."If the 400 wealthiest Americans are worth only 2.3 trillion dollars how can taxing the rich come even close to dealing with our 17.8 trillion dollar debt problem?"
So if the 400 richest will pay about 1/9th of the debt, will the top 5000-6000 be enough to pay it all? Sounds good. Let's do it.

 
The hell of it is, the richest people aren't the ones griping about high taxes. They already have more wealth than they, their children, their grandchildren, and great grandchildren will ever spend in their lifetimes.

The people griping about high taxes are the almost-rich who perceive any structure that will allow them to pay less as "fair".

Hope that helps.

 
Seriously..... Why do we seem to get all the crazies pushing their agenda to a board full of people who aren't even remotely interested in hearing said agenda?

I mean if you have strong feelings about a topic, wouldn't your time be better served searching for a more receptive audience?

 
Seriously..... Why do we seem to get all the crazies pushing their agenda to a board full of people who aren't even remotely interested in hearing said agenda?

I mean if you have strong feelings about a topic, wouldn't your time be better served searching for a more receptive audience?
Such folks usually feel their message is so important, who cares if people aren't receptive. See: nutjob on the corner screaming at passersby that they're going to hell if they don't accept Jebus.
 
McGarnicle said:
STEADYMOBBIN 22 said:
Seriously..... Why do we seem to get all the crazies pushing their agenda to a board full of people who aren't even remotely interested in hearing said agenda?

I mean if you have strong feelings about a topic, wouldn't your time be better served searching for a more receptive audience?
Such folks usually feel their message is so important, who cares if people aren't receptive. See: nutjob on the corner screaming at passersby that they're going to hell if they don't accept Jebus.
I see.... So now that I've gotten your attention, have I told you about my idea for a new upstart league that will ultimately take on the NFL?

 
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Ingredients
1 cup warm water
2 teaspoons active dry yeast
2 1/2 to 3 cups all-purpose flour
1 tablespoon sugar
1 1/2 teaspoons salt
1/4 cup baking soda
1 tablespoon barley malt syrup, rice syrup, or dark brown sugar
1 large egg, whisked with 2 tablespoons warm water
Coarse sea salt or pretzel salt

Equipment
Stand mixer (optional)
Bench scraper or sharp knife
Parchment paper or Silpat
Baking sheets
Large, wide pot, like a pasta pot
Slotted spoon

Instructions
Make the pretzel dough: Combine the warm water and yeast in the bowl of a stand mixer (or a medium-sized bowl, if kneading by hand). Let stand a few minutes, then stir to dissolve the yeast. Add 2 1/2 cups of the flour, sugar, and salt. Stir with a stiff spatula to form a floury, shaggy dough.

Knead the dough: Knead the dough with a stand mixer fitted with a dough hook attachment on low speed for 5 minutes. If the dough is very sticky after 1 minute, add flour a tablespoon at a time until it forms a ball. Alternatively, knead the dough against the counter for 5 to 7 minutes. The dough has finished kneading when it is soft, slightly tacky, and holds a ball-shape.

Let the dough rise: Clean out the bowl, film it with oil, and return the dough to the bowl. Cover and let rise somewhere warm until the dough is doubled in bulk, about 1 hour. (At this point, the pretzel dough can be refrigerated for up to three days or frozen for three months. Thaw frozen dough in the refrigerator before using. Refrigerated dough can be shaped into pretzels while still cold, but allow some extra time for the pretzels to puff up before dipping and baking.)

Divide the dough: Turn the dough out onto a lightly floured work surface. Use a bench scraper to divide the dough into 8 equal pieces.

Shape the pretzels: Working with one piece of dough a time, roll the dough into a long, skinny rope against the counter using the palms of your hands. Aim for a rope about 20 inches long. If it shrinks back on you, set it aside, roll another piece of dough, and come back to it after it's rested a few minutes. Lift the ends of the rope toward the top of your work surface and cross them. Cross them one more time to make a twist, then fold the twist back down over the bottom loop to form a pretzel shape. (See the corresponding photos in the gallery for assistance with this step.) Set the pretzel on a parchment-lined baking sheet and continue shaping the rest of the pretzels. When all the pretzels are shaped, cover them loosely and set them aside to rise until puffy, 20 to 30 minutes.

Preheat the oven to 450°F. Place a rack in the middle-bottom position.

Prepare the water bath: When the pretzels are starting to look puffy, measure 8 cups of water into a large, wide pot and set over high heat. Make sure the pot has high sides because the water will foam, nearly doubling in volume, when you add the baking soda. Bring the water to a rapid simmer, then add the baking soda and the barley malt syrup. The baking soda will make the water foam up the sides of the pot. Stir to dissolve the baking soda and syrup, then reduce the heat to medium to maintain a simmer.

Boil the pretzels: Lower 2 to 3 pretzels into the water bath — as many as will fit without crowding. Simmer for 30 seconds, then use a slotted spoon to flip the pretzels over. Simmer for another 30 seconds, then scoop the pretzels out of the water and return them to the baking sheet. While in the water bath, the pretzels will puff and take on a doughy, puckered appearance. Repeat with the remaining pretzels.

Brush with egg and sprinkle with salt: Once all the pretzels have been dipped in the water bath, brush them with the egg and water mixture and sprinkle them with salt.

Bake the pretzels: Bake the pretzels until they are deep brown and glossy, 12 to 15 minutes.

Cool and eat! Transfer the pretzels to a cooling rack and let sit until cool enough to handle. Pretzels are best when eaten fresh and hot, but will still be good for up to a day later. Store them in a paper bag at room temperature.

 

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