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dirtyhalos

capital letter hater!
*****2009 update******

another poster won (clown dogs) jake bachman

http://www12.myfanta...2009/home/37000

*****2008 Update*****

ok, we lost an owner as aj moura was replaced by anthony borberly, personally i view this as a step backwards, but we'll see what borberly can do

here is a link to our 2008 rookie draft...started 5/5

http://football27.myfantasyleague.com/2008...=13012&O=17

Sigmund Bloom wins year 2

****2007 League info****

Wanted to post a league for the FBG dynasty fans to follow, it features several FBG staff (Bloom, Rudnicki, Pasquino, Faletti and Grant) and some FBG posters (redman, comfortably numb, warpig, shake zula, datonn..probably missing some others). We will begin drafting Feb 12th.

http://football8.myf...2006/home/59002

Link to 45 round vet draft (drafting 720 vets)

ROOKIE DRAFT LINK

This is a 16 team IDP dynasty start up league, 45 man rosters, with a 3 man Taxi squad….

Starting Offense 1qb/1rb/3wr/1te/1pk and 1rb/te flex

Starting Defense 1dt/2de/3lbs/2cb/2s and 1dt/lb flex (3-4 vs 4-3 option)

Basic scoring ideas…..Link to scoring

Offensive Scoring is yardage based with bumps for big plays and slight bump for te's, 0.5ppr (rb's), 1ppr (wr's), 1.5ppr (te's)

Defensive Scoring has slight bumps to help the dt's

Link to trades

I am sure several of the other league members will be posting thoughts on why picks and trades were made and strategies,

regardless it should be fun to watch and comment on.

fyi...rounds 46-50 are the rookie rounds....so 46.01 is rookie pick 1.01r

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Carlton Rodrigues wins year 1

 
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redman

Footballguy
If the formatting permits, this will get everyone up to speed on the statusu of our trades to date:

Code:
# Franchise Type Transaction Date 1. Derek Tonn / AJ Moura Trade Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 30.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 44.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 45.13AJ Moura gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 7.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 25.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.04 Fri Feb 2 2:35:03 p.m. ET 2007 2. Carlos Rodrigues / Derek Tonn Trade Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.03;Year 2006 Draft Pick 24.03Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 2.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 7.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.13 Thu Feb 1 6:34:41 p.m. ET 2007 3. Derek Tonn / Jake Bachman Trade Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 50.04Jake Bachman gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 48.15 Thu Feb 1 6:23:11 p.m. ET 2007 4. Brian Smith / Derek Tonn Trade Brian Smith gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.12;Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.05;Year 2006 Draft Pick 18.05Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 23.13 Thu Feb 1 6:18:45 p.m. ET 2007 5. AJ Moura / Jake Bachman Trade AJ Moura gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 9.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 49.04Jake Bachman gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.02 Wed Jan 31 6:05:21 p.m. ET 2007 6. Derek Tonn / AJ Moura Trade Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.04AJ Moura gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.13Comments: What we've discussed on IM. Thanks!  Wed Jan 31 2:01:01 p.m. ET 2007 7. Brian Smith / Nick Chadick Trade Brian Smith gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 2.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.05Nick Chadick gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.02;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.02 Mon Jan 29 7:53:13 p.m. ET 2007 8. AJ Moura / Brian Smith Trade AJ Moura gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 2.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.04Brian Smith gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 1.12 Fri Jan 26 6:04:35 p.m. ET 2007
Meh, ugly but readable.
 
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dirtyhalos

capital letter hater!
smith picks/roster

2.05 (21) - Gates, Antonio SDC TE

3.04 (36) - Walker, Javon DEN WR

3.12 (44) - Davis, Vernon SFO TE

3.13 (45) - Moss, Santana WAS WR

4.02 (50) - Edwards, Braylon CLE WR

4.05 (53) - Turner, Michael SDC RB

5.08 (72) - Cutler, Jay DEN QB

10.05 (149) - Bell, Tatum DEN RB

13.08 (200) - Barnett, Nick GBP LB

13.12 (204) - Kiwanuka, Mathias NYG DE

13.15 (207) - Wimbley, Kamerion CLE LB

14.05 (213) - Clemens, Kellen NYJ QB

14.09 (217) - Whitner, Donte BUF S

16.05 (245) -

1.02 (2) - Johnson, Calvin TBD WR (eventually)

2.08 (24) -

3.02 (34) -

3.05 (37) -

 
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comfortably numb

Footballguy
If the formatting permits, this will get everyone up to speed on the statusu of our trades to date:

Code:
# Franchise Type Transaction Date 1. Derek Tonn / AJ Moura Trade Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 30.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 44.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 45.13AJ Moura gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 7.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 25.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.04 Fri Feb 2 2:35:03 p.m. ET 2007 2. Carlos Rodrigues / Derek Tonn Trade Carlos Rodrigues gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.14;Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.03;Year 2006 Draft Pick 24.03Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 2.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 7.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.13 Thu Feb 1 6:34:41 p.m. ET 2007 3. Derek Tonn / Jake Bachman Trade Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 50.04Jake Bachman gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 48.15 Thu Feb 1 6:23:11 p.m. ET 2007 4. Brian Smith / Derek Tonn Trade Brian Smith gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.12;Year 2006 Draft Pick 6.05;Year 2006 Draft Pick 18.05Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 23.13 Thu Feb 1 6:18:45 p.m. ET 2007 5. AJ Moura / Jake Bachman Trade AJ Moura gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 9.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 49.04Jake Bachman gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.15;Year 2006 Draft Pick 47.02 Wed Jan 31 6:05:21 p.m. ET 2007 6. Derek Tonn / AJ Moura Trade Derek Tonn gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.04AJ Moura gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.04;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.13Comments: What we've discussed on IM. Thanks!  Wed Jan 31 2:01:01 p.m. ET 2007 7. Brian Smith / Nick Chadick Trade Brian Smith gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 2.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.05Nick Chadick gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.02;Year 2006 Draft Pick 46.02 Mon Jan 29 7:53:13 p.m. ET 2007 8. AJ Moura / Brian Smith Trade AJ Moura gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 2.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 3.04Brian Smith gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 1.12 Fri Jan 26 6:04:35 p.m. ET 2007
Meh, ugly but readable.
Or a link to the transactions page??
 

the_sig

Footballguy
dirtyhalos said:
Wanted to post a league for the FBG dynasty fans to follow, it features several FBG staff (Bloom, Rudnicki, Pasquino and Grant) and some FBG posters (redman, comfortably numb, warpig, shake zula, datonn..probably missing some others). We will begin drafting Feb 12th.

http://football8.myfantasyleague.com/2006/home/59002

Link to 45 round vet draft (drafting 720 vets)

This is a 16 team IDP dynasty start up league, 45 man rosters, with a 3 man Taxi squad….

Starting Offense 1qb/1rb/3wr/1te/1pk and 1rb/te flex

Starting Defense 1dt/2de/3lbs/2cb/2s and 1dt/lb flex (3-4 vs 4-3 option)

Basic scoring ideas…..Link to scoring

Offensive Scoring is yardage based with bumps for big plays and slight bump for te’s, 0.5ppr (rb’s), 1ppr (wr’s), 1.5ppr (te’s)

Defensive Scoring has slight bumps to help the dt’s

I am sure several of the other league members will be posting thoughts on why picks and trades were made and strategies,

regardless it should be fun to watch and comment on.

fyi...rounds 46-50 are the rookie rounds....so 46.01 is rookie pick 1.01r
For those of us in '07 dynasty startups, this will be very informative to watch unfold. Thanks.
 

comfortably numb

Footballguy
dirtyhalos said:
Wanted to post a league for the FBG dynasty fans to follow, it features several FBG staff (Bloom, Rudnicki, Pasquino and Grant) and some FBG posters (redman, comfortably numb, warpig, shake zula, datonn..probably missing some others). We will begin drafting Feb 12th.

http://football8.myfantasyleague.com/2006/home/59002

Link to 45 round vet draft (drafting 720 vets)

This is a 16 team IDP dynasty start up league, 45 man rosters, with a 3 man Taxi squad….

Starting Offense 1qb/1rb/3wr/1te/1pk and 1rb/te flex

Starting Defense 1dt/2de/3lbs/2cb/2s and 1dt/lb flex (3-4 vs 4-3 option)

Basic scoring ideas…..Link to scoring

Offensive Scoring is yardage based with bumps for big plays and slight bump for te’s, 0.5ppr (rb’s), 1ppr (wr’s), 1.5ppr (te’s)

Defensive Scoring has slight bumps to help the dt’s

I am sure several of the other league members will be posting thoughts on why picks and trades were made and strategies,

regardless it should be fun to watch and comment on.

fyi...rounds 46-50 are the rookie rounds....so 46.01 is rookie pick 1.01r
For those of us in '07 dynasty startups, this will be very informative to watch unfold. Thanks.
I never drafted the day after the Pro Bowl, but I guess thats what you get when your an addict :shock: :D
 

datonn

Footballguy
Yep...guys keep offering to pad my squad's depth with picks in the round 5-8 and 18-23 range....so I'm happily accepting most of those very generous offers. :bag:

 

datonn

Footballguy
<sarcasm>A "who should I start" type of poll in the Shark Pool? I didn't think those were allowed.</sarcasm>

Maybe in the Assistant Coach...... :goodposting:

 

datonn

Footballguy
In a league like this, when most/all of the owners can bring some NOISE and FUNK to the table, we all gotta pick our poisons. I know right out of the gate that guys like Bloom and Jeff will CRUSH me in the rookie draft (scouting talent), so my answer to that has been to build up a war-chest of early/mid-round veteran picks to give myself greater depth on my overall roster. I'll have 15 picks in the books by the time most teams have 10...which is exactly what I need to swim with the sharks, IMHO. That, and sticking FIERCELY to a "BPA" strategy, regardless of what it means for my squad's 2007 record. Dynasty is a marathon, not a 100-yard dash. I've been doing what I feel I need to do to run with the leaders over 26.2 miles..... :suds:

 
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comfortably numb

Footballguy
In a league like this, when most/all of the owners can bring some NOISE and FUNK to the table, we all gotta pick our poisons. I know right out of the gate that guys like Bloom and Jeff will CRUSH me in the rookie draft (scouting talent), so my answer to that has been to build up a war-chest of early/mid-round veteran picks to give myself greater depth on my overall roster. I'll have 15 picks in the books by the time most teams have 10...which is exactly what I need to swim with the sharks, IMHO. That, and sticking FIERCELY to a "BPA" strategy, regardless of what it means for my squad's 2007 record. Dynasty is a marathon, not a 100-yard dash. I've been doing what I feel I need to do to run with the leaders over 26.2 miles..... :lmao:
Im like a nigerian running through the streets in the NYC marathon, good start ,steady, steady, with a late push in the Rookie Draft.You do have some good depth pockets....so have you thought of the trade that would help you get back into the 2nd???Its a loooooooooong wait from your 1.12 to 4.4Thats like 200 players :rolleyes:
 

datonn

Footballguy
Yeah, I nixed that deal (2nd round). I WANT to move back into the 2nd or 3rd, but I don't NEED to move back into the 2nd or 3rd (if that makes sense). I'm comfortable with the picks I now have, unless guys give me ample incentive to move.

I suppose in the "marathon" analogy, I'd be the runner that blends into the middle/back of the pack after the gun.....but by about mile 10-12 I would have steadily worked my way up to the front of the pack. Just gotta remember to stick to my breathing pattern (BPA draft strategy) and not get distracted by any seriously fine-looking ladies along the course route (doing other stuff during the draft besides focus on CRUSHING with my picks). :thumbup:

 
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comfortably numb

Footballguy
Yeah, I nixed that deal (2nd round). I WANT to move back into the 2nd or 3rd, but I don't NEED to move back into the 2nd or 3rd (if that makes sense). I'm comfortable with the picks I now have, unless guys give me ample incentive to move. I suppose in the "marathon" analogy, I'd be the runner that blends into the middle/back of the pack after the gun.....but by about mile 10-12 I would have steadily worked my way up to the front of the pack. Just gotta remember to stick to my breathing pattern (BPA draft strategy) and not get distracted by any seriously fine-looking ladies along the course route (doing other stuff during the draft beside focus on CRUSHING with my picks). ;)
So your the Peruvian runner.... :D Just don't drink to much water with all those picks in the early rounds, then you'll pull a hammy and your done. :thumbup: Good luck to you....
 

dirtyhalos

capital letter hater!
for those interested, i'm brian smith (commish)

my strategy so far has been to build a bank of picks in the 40-55 pick range (currently sitting on 21, 36, 44, 45, 50, 53 and 1.02r) this should be a zone that ends the teirs on some top talent at each position (other than rb, :cry: )....

to get as many picks in the window i wanted, i traded out of the 1.12 to gain an extra early pick and didn't mind doing so because i didn't want to feel obligated to reach for an rb that i don't feel will give me an edge (outside of the top 3-5 picks, i dont see much differnce between rb5 and say rb15, so i'll take rb15 (pick21) and be content)....

i also traded my 5th/6th round pick to gain an extra pick in that 40-55 range...i am anticipating the 5th/6th rounds to be a bit more of an offesive reach and be the start of the elite idp's which i feel confident that i can hold my own defensively if i miss out on them......

i moved up from 1.05r to 1.02r knowing that i can't lose with either apeterson or calvin....that should give me 7 solid offensive players to build around.....thats where i'm sitting now, i don't want to talk about specific players as most of the league is going to be visiting this thread....

feel free to rip away :thumbup:

 
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comfortably numb

Footballguy
for those interested, i'm brian smith (commish)

my strategy so far has been to build a bank of picks in the 40-55 pick range (currently sitting on 21, 36, 44, 45, 50, 53 and 1.02r) this should be a zone that ends the teirs on some top talent at each position (other than rb, :cry: )....

to get as many picks in the window i wanted, i traded out of the 1.12 to gain an extra early pick and didn't mind doing so because i didn't want to feel obligated to reach for an rb that i don't feel will give me an edge (outside of the top 3-5 picks, i dont see much differnce between rb5 and say rb15, so i'll take rb15 (pick21) and be content)....

i also traded my 5th/6th round pick to gain an extra pick in that 40-55 range...i am anticipating the 5th/6th rounds to be a bit more of an offesive reach and be the start of the elite idp's which i feel confident that i can hold my own defensively if i miss out on them......

i moved up from 1.05r to 1.02r knowing that i can't lose with either apeterson or calvin....that should give me 7 solid offensive players to build around.....thats where i'm sitting now, i don't want to talk about specific players as most of the league is going to be visiting this thread....

feel free to rip away :eek:
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:banned:

kidding'

My strategy...

Im just a guppy trying to avoid being eaten by these sharks

picks

1.14 (14)

2.3 (19)

2.4 (20)

5.16 (80)

7.13

7.14

8.03

Rookie picks

1.1

2.2

2.14

3.8

3.13

bPpa

best potential player available...

You think you have problems trying to figure out who the Den starting RB is in August???

How about drafting a player in the 3rd RD only to have him get cut in June!! :o

I will look for players that have good potential in their current sitauations, aalon with players who could have a good situaution unfold for them...

Whom I kiddin' after the 4th RD I will be scambling for a #2 WR :shrug:

Is David Boston doing well in rehab????? :hey:

 

datonn

Footballguy
As a follow-up to Carlos' post, my draft currently looks like this:

1 - 12

2 - none

3 - none

4 - 52, 55, 61

5 - 76, 78

6 - 83, 84, 85, 93, 95

7 - 100

8- 116

9 - 141

10 - 148

15 of the top 150 picks in a 16-team league. The drop from 12 to 52 is gonna hurt, but if I stick to my BPA guns, I'll make up for the loss of a second high RB or stud WR with my depth in rounds 4-6. I've even been thinking about moving down from 1.12 into the top of the second round as well, if I could get another 4-6 in the process. I'm really thinking that in our IDP league, I'll be A-OK if I can build my lights-out defense with all my extra picks I've been accumulating in rounds 18-25 as well. As long as my wrists don't cramp-up from all those early picks...... :thumbup:

 

Biabreakable

Footballguy
As a follow-up to Carlos' post, my draft currently looks like this: 1 - 12 2 - none 3 - none 4 - 52, 55, 61 5 - 76, 78 6 - 83, 84, 85, 93, 95 7 - 100 8- 116 9 - 14110 - 14815 of the top 150 picks in a 16-team league. The drop from 12 to 52 is gonna hurt, but if I stick to my BPA guns, I'll make up for the loss of a second high RB or stud WR with my depth in rounds 4-6. I've even been thinking about moving down from 1.12 into the top of the second round as well, if I could get another 4-6 in the process. I'm really thinking that in our IDP league, I'll be A-OK if I can build my lights-out defense with all my extra picks I've been accumulating in rounds 18-25 as well. As long as my wrists don't cramp-up from all those early picks...... :confused:
While I am an advocate of trading down for additional picks in a startup Dynasty league I am wondering if you may have dropped down too far with some of your trades. I would have to look at each move on a case by case basis but the drops are more precipitious in a 16 team league compared to a 12 team league.I also believe in looking for rookie pick upgrades while trading down as well. It sounds like you may have done so once moving from pick 1.05 to 1.02 I am not sure what the cost of that was specificly or the other factors involved in the trade but that is somthing I would have looked at doing when dropping from round 2 to round 5 for example as well as looking for rookie picks in 2008 to suppliment my roster strength.It was tempting for me to join in this league but I did not like the distance scoring PPR and 100 yard bonus rules. There were too many anomolous type scoring categories and rules lawyering that would have been involved for me to feel comfortable enough with this league. I am sure a few owners will correctly identify these loopholes and take advantage of them. I forget right now but I think there was somthing in the starting requirements/flexibility that did not sit well with me but maybe not I cannot recall at the moment. In any case these things were too much for me to accept joining in with this at this time. My work commitments are pretty high right now as well.I do like the great depth of players that will be drafted. 16 teams X 45 rounds = 720 total players rostered with some developmental roster space available as well IIRC.I think 16 team leagues are more dominated by elite players than 12 team leagues however and so for this reason I find the trade down scenarios to be less advantagous as well. You have traded out of the top 50 players. There is typicly a drop in talent level around this range. I think you should have/should focus on trading for rookie picks in 2008 as you may be in a rebuild right away. The later picks can certainly help your IDP however so that is somthing to take advantage of. Scoring from tackles I think is a bit more consistent than scoring from yards and should not be underestimated. You could really help yourself on the defensive side of the ball.It is harder to get owners to agree to trade down scenarios that really help you in a 16 teamer because no owner has many top 50 picks compared to a 12 team league. 12 teams = 48 picks 4 rounds = 4 picks in top 50 for all teams compared to 16 teams = 48 picks 3 rounds = 3 picks in top 50. So taking that into consideration I think you have actualy done quite well overall in building picks through trading down. This however is going to be offset by the talent level available as tiers drop after 50 and how elite players can dominate more in leagues where roster talent is spread more thinly across the board.
 

-OZ-

Footballguy
As a follow-up to Carlos' post, my draft currently looks like this:

1 - 12

2 - none

3 - none

4 - 52, 55, 61

5 - 76, 78

6 - 83, 84, 85, 93, 95

7 - 100

8- 116

9 - 141

10 - 148

15 of the top 150 picks in a 16-team league. The drop from 12 to 52 is gonna hurt, but if I stick to my BPA guns, I'll make up for the loss of a second high RB or stud WR with my depth in rounds 4-6. I've even been thinking about moving down from 1.12 into the top of the second round as well, if I could get another 4-6 in the process. I'm really thinking that in our IDP league, I'll be A-OK if I can build my lights-out defense with all my extra picks I've been accumulating in rounds 18-25 as well. As long as my wrists don't cramp-up from all those early picks...... :rant:
I sort of like what you've done here, but I don't think most championships are made with players drafted 52-95. While this list is far from perfect, it gives a sample of the players you can expect to field (if your draft was last year).

52. Bulger, Marc STL QB 54.24 1 254 446053. Culpepper, Daunte MIA QB 54.66 1 308 446554. Johnson, Andre HOU WR 56.21 1 314 467355. Addai, Joseph IND RB 56.34 1 1061 525356. Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE 56.36 1 297 460757. Galloway, Joey TBB WR 57.07 2 262 476958. Gore, Frank SFO RB 57.08 1 289 463959. Mason, Derrick BAL WR 57.16 1 199 483160. Horn, Joe NOS WR 59.65 2 275 481861. Jones, Thomas CHI RB 59.75 1 278 466362. Bell, Mike DEN RB 59.92 1 527 469763. Heap, Todd BAL TE 60.09 1 241 463164. Bledsoe, Drew DAL QB 65.97 1 257 453565. Vilma, Jonathan NYJ LB 66.26 1 240 51966. Bears, Chicago CHI Def 68.52 1 257 405167. Glenn, Terry DAL WR 69.57 3 342 487668. McAllister, Deuce NOS RB 70.13 2 303 452469. Bell, Tatum DEN RB 70.23 1 296 449470. Evans, Lee BUF WR 70.26 2 235 472471. Crumpler, Alge ATL TE 71.25 2 292 446372. Green, Ahman GBP RB 71.99 1 309 464773. Taylor, Fred JAC RB 72.48 2 292 461774. Smith, Rod DEN WR 72.88 2 297 479375. Rhodes, Dominic IND RB 73.19 2 335 454876. Urlacher, Brian CHI LB 73.79 3 264 53577. Williams, DeAngelo CAR RB 74.06 1 1060 506078. Bulluck, Keith TEN LB 76.28 4 244 52179. Maroney, Laurence NEP RB 76.36 1 1057 494380. Branch, Deion SEA WR 77.02 5 319 458081. Warner, Kurt ARI QB 78.11 1 353 464082. Panthers, Carolina CAR Def 78.13 3 222 411583. Stallworth, Donte' PHI WR 78.48 2 295 475284. Green, Trent KCC QB 78.96 2 352 454785. Witten, Jason DAL TE 79.32 4 277 422586. Vick, Michael ATL QB 80.03 1 253 442987. Jones, Matt JAC WR 80.06 3 266 461588. Kennison, Eddie KCC WR 81.82 5 382 473489. Cooley, Chris WAS TE 84.01 4 287 423790. Steelers, Pittsburgh PIT Def 84.59 3 243 411891. Thomas, Zach MIA LB 84.99 3 250 53992. Plummer, Jake DEN QB 85.67 1 297 451593. Benson, Cedric CHI RB 85.69 2 327 413894. Brown, Reggie PHI WR 87.33 3 357 452395. Brown, Chris TEN RB 87.35 2 297 4406Pick the right ten and you'll be alright, pick wrong and you're sucking. Fact is, even the best of us get at most 80% hits, so if you're among the best, you'll be able to field a fair starting lineup, but devoid of stars. Keep in mind, this list includes rookies, so your selection will be worse. Take out the rookies on this list, and the only stars I see are Gore and Lee Evans. There may or may not be two similar sleepers this year. You will have good depth, with 8 starters on offense, 11 on defense, you appear to be heading for 3 WR2's, a lack of RBs, probably a good QB and IDPs.

I respect that you're heading into this with a strategy, and hope it works for you. In my experience however, it's much easier to get good depth later if you have the keys to your lineup set.

If I read this right, you don't have any rookie 1sts?

This all should work out if you kept your 2008 1st, Darren McFadden will be a key to your future.

(Sorry if I sound harsh)

FWIW, a link to a league many of us conducted 3 years ago, just to give an idea of how a draft like this may go. 14 teams, TEs get a boost Game Breakers Granted, there are differences in the rules, but enough similarities that it may help. Obviously with this draft being 3 years ago, things change but it helps show the hit rate IMO.

 

redman

Footballguy
I will give my new leaguemates credit: they're a bunch of tradin' fools!

I've already gotten any number of invitations to trade, but as I'm attempting to avoid outright rape I've had to decline. Still, the interest is flattering. :(

 

Sigmund Bloom

Footballguy
Staff member
I will give my new leaguemates credit: they're a bunch of tradin' fools! I've already gotten any number of invitations to trade, but as I'm attempting to avoid outright rape I've had to decline. Still, the interest is flattering. :thumbup:
even if you dont want to go to the party, its always nice to be invited
 

datonn

Footballguy
OZ and Biabreakable,

Yeah, I know I am taking a HUGE gamble in moving down the way I did. However, I am banking on the fact that at LEAST 3-4 of the 16 owners will stray (far) from "BPA" and be chasing after names or positions in certain slots. Honestly, I'd be willing to bet that at LEAST eight players in the 52-95 range for 2007 are gone by the time I am on the clock at 52. That means that at least eight BETTER players will still be available at 52, of which I would get 2 and maybe 3.

Guys like Bloom and Jeff won't make many mistakes in the draft.....but I'm staking my 2008-2009+ team on the fact that other guys will be making significant reaches or errors in those first three rounds. If mistakes don't happen, I'll pay for it. If mistakes DO happen, I'll be set-up VERY well for rounds 4-10. I just have to make sure that I'm not the one making significant mistakes in the draft though, or my "calculated risk" will come back to bite me BIG time.

Mistakes that I see happening ALL the time in dynasty/IDP:

1. Guys becoming too enamoured with the rookie picks and very young players. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen guys deal away proven 26-28 year olds for a roll of the dice on the next rookie flash in the pan, I'd be on the Forbes list by now.

2. Guys ignoring "BPA" to force a pick of a RB or another position at a certain stage of the draft.

3. Guys not paying close enough attention to value on the defensive side of the ball. How many times do you see a marginal WR2/3 drafted ahead of a lights-out LB? I've never understood that, but it happens ALL the time...at least in many of the leagues I have played in.

At any rate, it should be a good time. If my gamble "busts", I write it off as a lesson learned and regroup for a run in a couple of seasons. If it DOES work though, 2008-2011/2012 could be VERY good for my franchise.

 

-OZ-

Footballguy
OZ and Biabreakable,Yeah, I know I am taking a HUGE gamble in moving down the way I did. However, I am banking on the fact that at LEAST 3-4 of the 16 owners will stray (far) from "BPA" and be chasing after names or positions in certain slots. Honestly, I'd be willing to bet that at LEAST eight players in the 52-95 range for 2007 are gone by the time I am on the clock at 52. That means that at least eight BETTER players will still be available at 52, of which I would get 2 and maybe 3. Guys like Bloom and Jeff won't make many mistakes in the draft.....but I'm staking my 2008-2009+ team on the fact that other guys will be making significant reaches or errors in those first three rounds. If mistakes don't happen, I'll pay for it. If mistakes DO happen, I'll be set-up VERY well for rounds 4-10. I just have to make sure that I'm not the one making significant mistakes in the draft though, or my "calculated risk" will come back to bite me BIG time. Mistakes that I see happening ALL the time in dynasty/IDP:1. Guys becoming too enamoured with the rookie picks and very young players. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen guys deal away proven 26-28 year olds for a roll of the dice on the next rookie flash in the pan, I'd be on the Forbes list by now. 2. Guys ignoring "BPA" to force a pick of a RB or another position at a certain stage of the draft.3. Guys not paying close enough attention to value on the defensive side of the ball. How many times do you see a marginal WR2/3 drafted ahead of a lights-out LB? I've never understood that, but it happens ALL the time...at least in many of the leagues I have played in.At any rate, it should be a good time. If my gamble "busts", I write it off as a lesson learned and regroup for a run in a couple of seasons. If it DOES work though, 2008-2011/2012 could be VERY good for my franchise.
good stuff. :fishing: Just a couple notes. You're looking at 2008 on, which of course seems to make sense. You'll probably target a few players like Michael Turner (not saying him inparticular, but the same idea), which could pan off. Or could bust. Most good young talent will be long gone. OTOH, you mention very young players being overrated, so are you going after veteran players? IMO you could turn this into a very competitive team for a couple years. I'm thinking this might be the best route. Old stars will slide much further than they should. If you wanted to, you could get a lineup of Hasselbeck, Deuce, Marvin, TO, Ward, Heap, great D, and then make a few educated speculative youth picks. You'd be in the running for a few years IMO. Just wondering now, what's your guess on position breakdown for the top 50? Something like 20 RBs, 15 WRs, 5-10 QBs, 3 TEs, and maybe a couple IDPs? If you look at our consensus threads, I think you'll find older players who will perform at a top level for a couple years to be around.I don't know why, but you have me intrigued.
 

Biabreakable

Footballguy
I wish you the best of luck datonn and honestly I like your guts and the strategy. I did somthing similar at the begining of my longest standing dynasty league about 6 years ago.

The key is for you to correctly identify tiers and not waste those picks once they come starting with pick 52.

As long as you properly identify players that have fallen from higher tiers in the scoring system and those players pan out you are setting yourself up to have better depth that any other team in the league. That depth can later prove to give you more talent in your roster than your opponents have and can be used for trading later which is a very nice position to be in at the begining of a dynasty league.

The main areas I think you can look at are WRs who fall, QBs and TEs because of the extra points for TE receptions. Also LBers and other elite IDPs should still be available to you.

As long as you hit on a very good RB with your rookie pick 1.02 right? Then I think you will be in decent shape right out of the gate. If not then continue your focus on 2008.

Who you draft with pick 12 is going to be very critical to your success as well.

glllll peas. :fishing:

 

comfortably numb

Footballguy
OZ and Biabreakable,Yeah, I know I am taking a HUGE gamble in moving down the way I did. However, I am banking on the fact that at LEAST 3-4 of the 16 owners will stray (far) from "BPA" and be chasing after names or positions in certain slots. Honestly, I'd be willing to bet that at LEAST eight players in the 52-95 range for 2007 are gone by the time I am on the clock at 52. That means that at least eight BETTER players will still be available at 52, of which I would get 2 and maybe 3. Guys like Bloom and Jeff won't make many mistakes in the draft.....but I'm staking my 2008-2009+ team on the fact that other guys will be making significant reaches or errors in those first three rounds. If mistakes don't happen, I'll pay for it. If mistakes DO happen, I'll be set-up VERY well for rounds 4-10. I just have to make sure that I'm not the one making significant mistakes in the draft though, or my "calculated risk" will come back to bite me BIG time. Mistakes that I see happening ALL the time in dynasty/IDP:1. Guys becoming too enamoured with the rookie picks and very young players. If I had a dollar for every time I've seen guys deal away proven 26-28 year olds for a roll of the dice on the next rookie flash in the pan, I'd be on the Forbes list by now. 2. Guys ignoring "BPA" to force a pick of a RB or another position at a certain stage of the draft.3. Guys not paying close enough attention to value on the defensive side of the ball. How many times do you see a marginal WR2/3 drafted ahead of a lights-out LB? I've never understood that, but it happens ALL the time...at least in many of the leagues I have played in.At any rate, it should be a good time. If my gamble "busts", I write it off as a lesson learned and regroup for a run in a couple of seasons. If it DOES work though, 2008-2011/2012 could be VERY good for my franchise.
good stuff. :fishing: Just a couple notes. You're looking at 2008 on, which of course seems to make sense. You'll probably target a few players like Michael Turner (not saying him inparticular, but the same idea), which could pan off. Or could bust. Most good young talent will be long gone. OTOH, you mention very young players being overrated, so are you going after veteran players? IMO you could turn this into a very competitive team for a couple years. I'm thinking this might be the best route. Old stars will slide much further than they should. If you wanted to, you could get a lineup of Hasselbeck, Deuce, Marvin, TO, Ward, Heap, great D, and then make a few educated speculative youth picks. You'd be in the running for a few years IMO. Just wondering now, what's your guess on position breakdown for the top 50? Something like 20 RBs, 15 WRs, 5-10 QBs, 3 TEs, and maybe a couple IDPs? If you look at our consensus threads, I think you'll find older players who will perform at a top level for a couple years to be around.I don't know why, but you have me intrigued.
:fishing:
 

dirtyhalos

capital letter hater!
I wish you the best of luck datonn and honestly I like your guts and the strategy. I did somthing similar at the begining of my longest standing dynasty league about 6 years ago. The key is for you to correctly identify tiers and not waste those picks once they come starting with pick 52.As long as you properly identify players that have fallen from higher tiers in the scoring system and those players pan out you are setting yourself up to have better depth that any other team in the league. That depth can later prove to give you more talent in your roster than your opponents have and can be used for trading later which is a very nice position to be in at the begining of a dynasty league.The main areas I think you can look at are WRs who fall, QBs and TEs because of the extra points for TE receptions. Also LBers and other elite IDPs should still be available to you.As long as you hit on a very good RB with your rookie pick 1.02 right? Then I think you will be in decent shape right out of the gate. If not then continue your focus on 2008.Who you draft with pick 12 is going to be very critical to your success as well.glllll peas. :thumbup:
:no: rookie two.....that belongs to me :pickle:
 

Biabreakable

Footballguy
I wish you the best of luck datonn and honestly I like your guts and the strategy. I did somthing similar at the begining of my longest standing dynasty league about 6 years ago. The key is for you to correctly identify tiers and not waste those picks once they come starting with pick 52.As long as you properly identify players that have fallen from higher tiers in the scoring system and those players pan out you are setting yourself up to have better depth that any other team in the league. That depth can later prove to give you more talent in your roster than your opponents have and can be used for trading later which is a very nice position to be in at the begining of a dynasty league.The main areas I think you can look at are WRs who fall, QBs and TEs because of the extra points for TE receptions. Also LBers and other elite IDPs should still be available to you.As long as you hit on a very good RB with your rookie pick 1.02 right? Then I think you will be in decent shape right out of the gate. If not then continue your focus on 2008.Who you draft with pick 12 is going to be very critical to your success as well.glllll peas. :pickle:
:no: rookie two.....that belongs to me :no:
:thumbup:
 

wannabee

Footballguy
I wish you the best of luck datonn and honestly I like your guts and the strategy. I did somthing similar at the begining of my longest standing dynasty league about 6 years ago. The key is for you to correctly identify tiers and not waste those picks once they come starting with pick 52.As long as you properly identify players that have fallen from higher tiers in the scoring system and those players pan out you are setting yourself up to have better depth that any other team in the league. That depth can later prove to give you more talent in your roster than your opponents have and can be used for trading later which is a very nice position to be in at the begining of a dynasty league.The main areas I think you can look at are WRs who fall, QBs and TEs because of the extra points for TE receptions. Also LBers and other elite IDPs should still be available to you.As long as you hit on a very good RB with your rookie pick 1.02 right? Then I think you will be in decent shape right out of the gate. If not then continue your focus on 2008.Who you draft with pick 12 is going to be very critical to your success as well.glllll peas. :thumbup:
:no: rookie two.....that belongs to me :pickle:
thats what you think. Who is commish anyway?
 

got_nugs

Footballguy
I figured that I may as well sign up for Footballguys as i'm in this league with all of these fellas. Should be fun.

 

datonn

Footballguy
Just wondering now, what's your guess on position breakdown for the top 50? Something like 20 RBs, 15 WRs, 5-10 QBs, 3 TEs, and maybe a couple IDPs? If you look at our consensus threads, I think you'll find older players who will perform at a top level for a couple years to be around.
OZ,Since 2/3 of the league is participating in (or at least reading) this thread, that might be a bit TOO much information to divulge. :sadbanana: I'm actually thinking though that a bit fewer QBs and IDPs will go then should...with those picks instead going towards more RBs and WRs. You know, younger prospects/projects vs. older vets will TOTALLY depend upon the flow of the draft. If guys are leaving lots of very talented 27-29+ year olds on the board into the 4th round, they're mine if they are "BPA". If guys are leaving lots of younger "potential studs" who are yet unproven on the board into the fourth, that's the direction I will go (again, if they are "BPA"). My strategy heading into the draft is to have only one basic plan: "BPA" There are certainly some players I like a LOT more than others. However, I cannot think of even one NFL player who I look at and think "I gotta land ______, at all costs!" If "he" is there, great! If "he" isn't, take the next best option, regardless of position. BPA is the *ONLY* way a person can even dare trading out of the second and third rounds in a 16-team league IMHO. As long as I stick to it though and don't make any stupid mistakes, I think I'll be okay....either with a mix of older (in their prime or just past it) vets and a sprinkling of solid young projects, or a younger team who will need a season or two to gel. I'll let the other owners determine my course of action though.....as there should be PLENTY of solid players still out there irregardless.
 
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AcerFC

Footballguy
How does one get into a league like this. If the staffers form another league against posters from the board sign me up. I would love to have fun and learn at the same time

 

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