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Sigmund Bloom said:
cscmtp said:
I LOVE this team so far..2.05 (21) - Gates, Antonio SDC TE3.04 (36) - Walker, Javon DEN WR3.12 (44) - Davis, Vernon SFO TE3.13 (45) - Moss, Santana WAS WR4.02 (50) - Edwards, Braylon CLE WR4.05 (53) - Turner, Michael SDC RB5.08 (72) - Cutler, Jay DEN QB10.05 (149) -1.02 (2) - Johnson, Calvin TBD WR (eventually)That is just nasty! Very young, but I like 'em that way :thumbdown:
It is, it really is. If 2 out of Davis/Edwards/Turner/Cutler hit and become true first tier guys at their position, we are all in trouble.
I like it as well, but is no one concerened he may not have a RB to start this year?
The way I see it, everyone will have some weak areas after an initial draft. You can win in a league like this without a stud RB, because of the TE scoring, not to mention having 11 IDP starters. Those 2 things can cover a weakness at RB. He also has 3 solid WR's. Thus far I think his team is best situated for the long haul.
4
Is this Jeopardy?I got it - what place will you finish in your division?
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
cscmtp said:
I LOVE this team so far..2.05 (21) - Gates, Antonio SDC TE3.04 (36) - Walker, Javon DEN WR3.12 (44) - Davis, Vernon SFO TE3.13 (45) - Moss, Santana WAS WR4.02 (50) - Edwards, Braylon CLE WR4.05 (53) - Turner, Michael SDC RB5.08 (72) - Cutler, Jay DEN QB10.05 (149) -1.02 (2) - Johnson, Calvin TBD WR (eventually)That is just nasty! Very young, but I like 'em that way :thumbdown:
It is, it really is. If 2 out of Davis/Edwards/Turner/Cutler hit and become true first tier guys at their position, we are all in trouble.
I like it as well, but is no one concerened he may not have a RB to start this year?
The way I see it, everyone will have some weak areas after an initial draft. You can win in a league like this without a stud RB, because of the TE scoring, not to mention having 11 IDP starters. Those 2 things can cover a weakness at RB. He also has 3 solid WR's. Thus far I think his team is best situated for the long haul.
4
Is this Jeopardy?I got it - what place will you finish in your division?
ha ha, calvin will also be on my roster, its just a matter of time
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
cscmtp said:
I LOVE this team so far..2.05 (21) - Gates, Antonio SDC TE3.04 (36) - Walker, Javon DEN WR3.12 (44) - Davis, Vernon SFO TE3.13 (45) - Moss, Santana WAS WR4.02 (50) - Edwards, Braylon CLE WR4.05 (53) - Turner, Michael SDC RB5.08 (72) - Cutler, Jay DEN QB10.05 (149) -1.02 (2) - Johnson, Calvin TBD WR (eventually)That is just nasty! Very young, but I like 'em that way :kicksrock:
It is, it really is. If 2 out of Davis/Edwards/Turner/Cutler hit and become true first tier guys at their position, we are all in trouble.
I like it as well, but is no one concerened he may not have a RB to start this year?
The way I see it, everyone will have some weak areas after an initial draft. You can win in a league like this without a stud RB, because of the TE scoring, not to mention having 11 IDP starters. Those 2 things can cover a weakness at RB. He also has 3 solid WR's. Thus far I think his team is best situated for the long haul.
4
Is this Jeopardy?I got it - what place will you finish in your division?
ha ha, calvin will also be on my roster, its just a matter of time
Four years ago that could have read "ha ha Charles Rogers will also be on my roster, its just a matter of time." :confused:
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
cscmtp said:
I LOVE this team so far..2.05 (21) - Gates, Antonio SDC TE3.04 (36) - Walker, Javon DEN WR3.12 (44) - Davis, Vernon SFO TE3.13 (45) - Moss, Santana WAS WR4.02 (50) - Edwards, Braylon CLE WR4.05 (53) - Turner, Michael SDC RB5.08 (72) - Cutler, Jay DEN QB10.05 (149) -1.02 (2) - Johnson, Calvin TBD WR (eventually)That is just nasty! Very young, but I like 'em that way ;)
It is, it really is. If 2 out of Davis/Edwards/Turner/Cutler hit and become true first tier guys at their position, we are all in trouble.
I like it as well, but is no one concerened he may not have a RB to start this year?
The way I see it, everyone will have some weak areas after an initial draft. You can win in a league like this without a stud RB, because of the TE scoring, not to mention having 11 IDP starters. Those 2 things can cover a weakness at RB. He also has 3 solid WR's. Thus far I think his team is best situated for the long haul.
4
Is this Jeopardy?I got it - what place will you finish in your division?
ha ha, calvin will also be on my roster, its just a matter of time
Four years ago that could have read "ha ha Charles Rogers will also be on my roster, its just a matter of time." ;)
keep it up overton, just keep it up
 
Sigmund Bloom said:
cscmtp said:
I LOVE this team so far..2.05 (21) - Gates, Antonio SDC TE3.04 (36) - Walker, Javon DEN WR3.12 (44) - Davis, Vernon SFO TE3.13 (45) - Moss, Santana WAS WR4.02 (50) - Edwards, Braylon CLE WR4.05 (53) - Turner, Michael SDC RB5.08 (72) - Cutler, Jay DEN QB10.05 (149) -1.02 (2) - Johnson, Calvin TBD WR (eventually)That is just nasty! Very young, but I like 'em that way ;)
It is, it really is. If 2 out of Davis/Edwards/Turner/Cutler hit and become true first tier guys at their position, we are all in trouble.
I like it as well, but is no one concerened he may not have a RB to start this year?
The way I see it, everyone will have some weak areas after an initial draft. You can win in a league like this without a stud RB, because of the TE scoring, not to mention having 11 IDP starters. Those 2 things can cover a weakness at RB. He also has 3 solid WR's. Thus far I think his team is best situated for the long haul.
4
Is this Jeopardy?I got it - what place will you finish in your division?
ha ha, calvin will also be on my roster, its just a matter of time
Four years ago that could have read "ha ha Charles Rogers will also be on my roster, its just a matter of time." :cry:
;)
 
Here's another update:

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments 1.01 1. Chris Overton Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB Mon Feb 12 10:46:15 a.m. ET 2007 3.01 33. Chris Overton Colston, Marques NOS WR Tue Feb 13 12:58:21 p.m. ET 2007 4.06 54. Chris Overton Burress, Plaxico NYG WR Wed Feb 14 1:24:24 a.m. ET 2007 4.16 64. Chris Overton Bulger, Marc STL QB Wed Feb 14 7:31:27 p.m. ET 2007 5.13 77. Chris Overton Peppers, Julius CAR DE 8:15:54 a.m. 5.16 80. Chris Overton Scheffler, Tony DEN TE 9:14:35 a.m. 6.16 96. Chris Overton 7.01 97. Chris Overton 7.07 103. Chris OvertonI didn't intend to wait for a TE quite this long. This scoring system is very flattering to TE's, but guys kept dropping off the board just before I wanted to pick them. The last guy with the potential to be a stud, based upon his last four weeks with Jay Cutler starting his 2nd-5th games, was Tony Scheffler, who compiled 3 50+ yard receiving games (worth a 7pt bonus) and caught 4 TD's during that stretch. That he and his QB are both young and are in a system that historically has looked often to the TE only made this a more attractive dynasty choice. I'm hoping this parallel's the Cooley-Campbell situation in Washington, which also looked very successful at the end of the year.

I can now go into full BPA drafting mode. :banned:

Edit to add - here's where the TE's have gone in the draft so far:

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Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments 2.05 21. Brian Smith Gates, Antonio SDC TE Tue Feb 13 9:45:11 a.m. ET 2007 i rock!!! 2.12 28. Terry Winfree Winslow, Kellen CLE TE Tue Feb 13 11:36:58 a.m. ET 2007 3.11 43. Ben Bregitzer Heap, Todd BAL TE Tue Feb 13 10:05:55 p.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 3.12 44. Brian Smith Davis, Vernon SFO TE Tue Feb 13 10:14:52 p.m. ET 2007 3.15 47. Carlos Rodrigues Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE Tue Feb 13 10:41:40 p.m. ET 2007 4.03 51. Will Grant Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE Wed Feb 14 12:52:25 a.m. ET 2007 'Cool. Edwards is still available.. I'll wait for Brian to pick and then....... DAMN...' 4.08 56. Jake Parrish Cooley, Chris WAS TE Wed Feb 14 1:43:35 a.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 4.10 58. Jeff Pasquino Crumpler, Alge ATL TE Wed Feb 14 10:26:26 a.m. ET 2007 4.14 62. Aaron Rudnicki Witten, Jason DAL TE Wed Feb 14 4:35:01 p.m. ET 2007 5.06 70. Derek Tonn Watson, Ben NEP TE Wed Feb 14 10:25:48 p.m. ET 2007 5.10 74. AJ Moura Smith, L.J. PHI TE Thu Feb 15 12:22:14 a.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 5.16 80. Chris Overton Scheffler, Tony DEN TE Thu Feb 15 12:14:35 p.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
 
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Here's another update:

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Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments 1.01 1. Chris Overton Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB Mon Feb 12 10:46:15 a.m. ET 2007 3.01 33. Chris Overton Colston, Marques NOS WR Tue Feb 13 12:58:21 p.m. ET 2007 4.06 54. Chris Overton Burress, Plaxico NYG WR Wed Feb 14 1:24:24 a.m. ET 2007 4.16 64. Chris Overton Bulger, Marc STL QB Wed Feb 14 7:31:27 p.m. ET 2007 5.13 77. Chris Overton Peppers, Julius CAR DE 8:15:54 a.m. 5.16 80. Chris Overton Scheffler, Tony DEN TE 9:14:35 a.m. 6.16 96. Chris Overton 7.01 97. Chris Overton 7.07 103. Chris Overton
I didn't intend to wait for a TE quite this long. This scoring system is very flattering to TE's, but guys kept dropping off the board just before I wanted to pick them. The last guy with the potential to be a stud, based upon his last four weeks with Jay Cutler starting his 2nd-5th games, was Tony Scheffler, who compiled 3 50+ yard receiving games (worth a 7pt bonus) and caught 4 TD's during that stretch. That he and his QB are both young and are in a system that historically has looked often to the TE only made this a more attractive dynasty choice. I can now go into full BPA drafting mode. :lmao:Edit to add - here's where the TE's have gone in the draft so far:
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Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments 2.05 21. Brian Smith Gates, Antonio SDC TE Tue Feb 13 9:45:11 a.m. ET 2007 i rock!!! 2.12 28. Terry Winfree Winslow, Kellen CLE TE Tue Feb 13 11:36:58 a.m. ET 2007 3.11 43. Ben Bregitzer Heap, Todd BAL TE Tue Feb 13 10:05:55 p.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 3.12 44. Brian Smith Davis, Vernon SFO TE Tue Feb 13 10:14:52 p.m. ET 2007 3.15 47. Carlos Rodrigues Gonzalez, Tony KCC TE Tue Feb 13 10:41:40 p.m. ET 2007 4.03 51. Will Grant Shockey, Jeremy NYG TE Wed Feb 14 12:52:25 a.m. ET 2007 'Cool. Edwards is still available.. I'll wait for Brian to pick and then....... DAMN...' 4.08 56. Jake Parrish Cooley, Chris WAS TE Wed Feb 14 1:43:35 a.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 4.10 58. Jeff Pasquino Crumpler, Alge ATL TE Wed Feb 14 10:26:26 a.m. ET 2007 4.14 62. Aaron Rudnicki Witten, Jason DAL TE Wed Feb 14 4:35:01 p.m. ET 2007 5.06 70. Derek Tonn Watson, Ben NEP TE Wed Feb 14 10:25:48 p.m. ET 2007 5.10 74. AJ Moura Smith, L.J. PHI TE Thu Feb 15 12:22:14 a.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 5.16 80. Chris Overton [b]Scheffler, Tony DEN TE [/b] Thu Feb 15 12:14:35 p.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
Nice. I have him in my 32 team dynasty. He's got skillz.
 
Here's the 5th round:

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5.01 65. Jeff Pasquino Vick, Michael ATL QB Wed Feb 14 7:32:19 p.m. ET 2007 5.02 66. Sigmund Bloom Brady, Tom NEP QB Wed Feb 14 7:49:11 p.m. ET 2007 5.03 67. Jake Bachman Romo, Tony DAL QB Wed Feb 14 8:33:04 p.m. ET 2007 5.04 68. Alex Fernandez Moss, Randy OAK WR Wed Feb 14 10:04:25 p.m. ET 2007 5.05 69. Terry Winfree Ryans, DeMeco HOU LB Wed Feb 14 10:04:25 p.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 5.06 70. Derek Tonn Watson, Ben NEP TE Wed Feb 14 10:25:48 p.m. ET 2007 5.07 71. Aaron Rudnicki Cotchery, Jerricho NYJ WR Wed Feb 14 10:43:26 p.m. ET 2007 5.08 72. Brian Smith Cutler, Jay DEN QB Wed Feb 14 10:43:47 p.m. ET 2007 5.09 73. Jake Parrish Rivers, Philip SDC QB Thu Feb 15 12:22:14 a.m. ET 2007 5.10 74. AJ Moura Smith, L.J. PHI TE Thu Feb 15 12:22:14 a.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 5.11 75. Will Grant Chambers, Chris MIA WR Thu Feb 15 3:05:54 a.m. ET 2007 5.12 76. Derek Tonn Branch, Deion SEA WR Thu Feb 15 4:05:07 a.m. ET 2007 5.13 77. Chris Overton Peppers, Julius CAR DE Thu Feb 15 11:15:54 a.m. ET 2007 5.14 78. Derek Tonn Norwood, Jerious ATL RB Thu Feb 15 12:14:35 p.m. ET 2007 5.15 79. Carlos Rodrigues Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB Thu Feb 15 12:14:35 p.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 5.16 80. Chris Overton Scheffler, Tony DEN TE Thu Feb 15 12:14:35 p.m. ET 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List
 
Let me know if we get to 6.06. I will have to give my pick to Brian or someone else that has "commish" privileges.

 
Let me know if we get to 6.06. I will have to give my pick to Brian or someone else that has "commish" privileges.
No problem. Are you not able to preselect this one?
I can't get to our website from here at work. I still have no idea which direction I'm going with this pick. Is Vinatieri still available? That guy leads the league in scoring!
 
Let me know if we get to 6.06. I will have to give my pick to Brian or someone else that has "commish" privileges.
No problem. Are you not able to preselect this one?
I can't get to our website from here at work. I still have no idea which direction I'm going with this pick. Is Vinatieri still available? That guy leads the league in scoring!
Yes, but you should trade up to get him. :kicksrock:
 
At 5.14, I wanted to have just a little FUN, so I jumped down to my third BPA (behind Roethlisberger and Scheffler) and drafted RB Jerious Norwood, Falcons. I am a BIG Norwood fan, and didn't think he would be there at 6.05 with some teams behind me needing RB help (and having a hankering for youth over proven vets). Roethlisberger would have probably been the BEST choice, but Norwood makes me FEEL the best about my roster at the moment. A bit of "emotion" tainting "logic", but I also wanted the piece of mind of having a future horse (like a "Michael Turner" or "MB3") behind my two older RB vets. Norwood will make me sleep easier at night with both my starting RBs turning 30 in a year or two, and his path to stardom with the Falcons is set. I just need to be a little patient with him.....

 
At 5.14, I wanted to have just a little FUN, so I jumped down to my third BPA (behind Roethlisberger and Scheffler) and drafted RB Jerious Norwood, Falcons. I am a BIG Norwood fan, and didn't think he would be there at 6.05 with some teams behind me needing RB help (and having a hankering for youth over proven vets). Roethlisberger would have probably been the BEST choice, but Norwood makes me FEEL the best about my roster at the moment. A bit of "emotion" tainting "logic", but I also wanted the piece of mind of having a future horse (like a "Michael Turner" or "MB3") behind my two older RB vets. Norwood will make me sleep easier at night with both my starting RBs turning 30 in a year or two, and his path to stardom with the Falcons is set. I just need to be a little patient with him.....
Got insurance? Perhaps a helmet? :kicksrock:
 
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At 5.14, I wanted to have just a little FUN, so I jumped down to my third BPA (behind Roethlisberger and Scheffler) and drafted RB Jerious Norwood, Falcons. I am a BIG Norwood fan, and didn't think he would be there at 6.05 with some teams behind me needing RB help (and having a hankering for youth over proven vets). Roethlisberger would have probably been the BEST choice, but Norwood makes me FEEL the best about my roster at the moment. A bit of "emotion" tainting "logic", but I also wanted the piece of mind of having a future horse (like a "Michael Turner" or "MB3") behind my two older RB vets. Norwood will make me sleep easier at night with both my starting RBs turning 30 in a year or two, and his path to stardom with the Falcons is set. I just need to be a little patient with him.....
Personally, I like Norwood (I also have him in my 32 team dynasty). However, since their O-line coach AND headcoach has left...I was a little skeptical of his future. He certainly has playmaker written all over him, but I was scared off by their current coaching situation.
 
Personally, I like Norwood (I also have him in my 32 team dynasty). However, since their O-line coach AND headcoach has left...I was a little skeptical of his future. He certainly has playmaker written all over him, but I was scared off by their current coaching situation.
Yep, agreed. Atlanta is SERIOUSLY in-flux and a bit of an unknown right now. However, Norwood confirmed for me that he has that "burst" or additional gear needed to be a success at the RB position in the NFL. Maybe a "Michael Turner-light" type of situation? The only difference is, none of us have a clue where Turner is going to end up, or who he might have to share with when he gets there. That, and Norwood is several years younger than Turner, and has only an aging (though still very productive) Warrick Dunn in front of him. Who knows? Maybe Petrino moves to more of a RBBC approach this year, with Norwood taking over the reigns in 2008-2009. That's my hope, anyway, as I'll potentially be needing a replacement to Deuce by then. ;)
 
Personally, I like Norwood (I also have him in my 32 team dynasty). However, since their O-line coach AND headcoach has left...I was a little skeptical of his future. He certainly has playmaker written all over him, but I was scared off by their current coaching situation.
Yep, agreed. Atlanta is SERIOUSLY in-flux and a bit of an unknown right now. However, Norwood confirmed for me that he has that "burst" or additional gear needed to be a success at the RB position in the NFL. Maybe a "Michael Turner-light" type of situation? The only difference is, none of us have a clue where Turner is going to end up, or who he might have to share with when he gets there. That, and Norwood is several years younger than Turner, and has only an aging (though still very productive) Warrick Dunn in front of him. Who knows? Maybe Petrino moves to more of a RBBC approach this year, with Norwood taking over the reigns in 2008-2009. That's my hope, anyway, as I'll potentially be needing a replacement to Deuce by then. ;)
I was looking to trade up to nab Norwood...
 
Let me know if we get to 6.06. I will have to give my pick to Brian or someone else that has "commish" privileges.
Interested in moving the pick?I have a proposal for you on the site, which you cannot see obviously....Want me to PM it to you?
Yeah...PM me hotstuff. :rant:
Hey, only Brian calls me that...
Does he reject you as much as me though? ;) Sorry man.
 
Let me know if we get to 6.06. I will have to give my pick to Brian or someone else that has "commish" privileges.
Interested in moving the pick?I have a proposal for you on the site, which you cannot see obviously....Want me to PM it to you?
Yeah...PM me hotstuff. :hot:
Hey, only Brian calls me that...
Does he reject you as much as me though? ;) Sorry man.
:rant:
 
I'll do a personal draft summary with commentary, just 'cause I'm bored:

Pick Ovr Franchise Selection Date/Time Comments 1.01 1. Chris Overton Tomlinson, Ladainian SDC RB Mon Feb 12 10:46:15 a.m. ET 2007 3.01 33. Chris Overton Colston, Marques NOS WR Tue Feb 13 12:58:21 p.m. ET 2007 4.06 54. Chris Overton Burress, Plaxico NYG WR Wed Feb 14 1:24:24 a.m. ET 2007 4.16 64. Chris Overton Bulger, Marc STL QB Wed Feb 14 7:31:27 p.m. ET 2007 5.13 77. Chris Overton Peppers, Julius CAR DE Thu Feb 15 11:15:54 a.m. ET 2007 5.16 80. Chris Overton Scheffler, Tony DEN TE Thu Feb 15 12:14:35 p.m. ET 20071.01(1) Tomlinson- I'd be lying to you if I said that I feel like I got great value here, not because LT't not elite and maybe all time elite, but because he's six years into his career, is in his late 20's (though still only 28 next year) and has a lot of mileage. Optimally, I had hoped to trade down to 1.04 or 1.05 and grab Gore, but I couldn't make that happen. The hope here is that LT's career resembles Walter Payton's after his 6th season, when his 7th-12th seasons (exclusing 1982 strike season) averaged 1450 rushing yards and 9 rushing TD's. If I'm right and I draft a good team otherwise, I could have an elite team; if not, I can still be good but I'm going to have a chronically weak RB corps for some time because the scoring format forces me to look to other positions for value in this draft. 2.16(32) - traded down:

Chris Overton gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 2.16Ben Bregitzer gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 4.06;Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.16 I feel like I got great value here. I picked up two still-early picks from one pick that was just outside of the part of the draft where the "franchise players" were. (Bregitzer selected QB Drew Brees - see below.)

3.01(33) Colston- Dammit, Bregitzer selected Brees! That's who I wanted here (I'm disclosing this for the first time here). :o But that's what I get for trading my first instead of my second of two back to back picks. Regarding Colston, I picked him as the WR8 which is earlier than most dynasty ADP's I'm aware of, but the other WR's still on the board in this WR-flattering scoring format were either too old for me to be comfortable (Harrison, TO) or had other concerns (Andre Johnson: shoddy QB situation, few TD's, poor ypc avg; Javon Walker: young QB and major knee injury & will be 29 this year). Lee Evans was a viable option, but God knows Colston has a better QB throwing him the ball and an aggressive head coach. Bottom line: my gut told me Colston so I went with it.

4.06(54) Burress- It came down to this: snagging Burress in a WR-heavy league as the WR21 is just too much value to pass up. He has big games and scores TD's (much like the feast-or-famine QB who throws him the ball). I was thinking TE here, but Gates, Winslow, Heap, Davis, Gonzo & Shockey were all off the board, and I thought it was still too early to pick Cooley who I think could be scary in this system with Campbell throwing to him. I went with Burress and planned to snag Cooley with my next pick, before grabbing a QB (hopefully Bulger) on the 4.16-5.01 turn.

4.16(64) Bulger- No such luck with Cooley, who was selected at 4.08(56). Nobody else here impresses me using a rough, seat of the pants combination of VBD and ADP except for Bulger, so I snag him and try to trade down from my 5.01 spot (see below). I love Bulger in this format where you get 12pt bonuses for 300+ yard games, which he has a lot of, including 8 in 16 games last year, 12 in his last 24 games and 16 in his last 38 games. That's the reason why I chose him over Brady. And his overall stats are comparable to Brees. Not too shabby for the QB7. I also couldn't wait any longer because Leinart went the pick before and McNabb 11 picks before that, so I smell a run on QB's (and I was right- this pick was immediately followed by Vick, Brady & Romo, with picks of Cutler and Rivers less than 10 picks later. This pick, plus the value I got in the earlier trade, make up for losing Brees - I'm no longer kicking myself.

5.01(65) - traded down

Chris Overton gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.01;Year 2006 Draft Pick 11.01Jeff Pasquino gave up Year 2006 Draft Pick 5.13;Year 2006 Draft Pick 7.07I learned my lesson with the trade down from 2.16 and the loss of Brees; this time I trade the 2nd of my two picks so I can choose Bulger with the first. Did it make a difference? Yes, Jeff indicated immediately that he would have picked Bulger here. Fool me once . . .5.13(77) Julius Peppers - DeMeco Ryans went at 5.05(69), so I can't wait any longer for the guy who I regard as the premier IDP player on the board. Peppers is simply a steal here, though you wouldn't know it from his ADP in this kind of draft. People simply wait too long to pick guys like him, so this is great value. The only other consideration here was to grab TE Tony Scheffler, but after quickly checking and confirming that the two guys with picks between this one and my next pick already had TE's, I decided to go with Peppers.

5.16(80) Scheffler- I preselected him when I picked Peppers. Sure enough, the two intervening picks were Jerious Norwood (who I like a lot) and Ben Roethlisberger. I'm high on Scheffler for much the same reasons as I'm high on Chris Cooley: both guys' stats jumped when their respective teams inserted the young QB's, Cutler and Campbell, into their lineups. If you project Scheffler's stats from the last four games over the entire season, he'd have been the TE2 in this format, which is pretty eye-popping for the guy selected TE12. He's also very young, and with a young QB in a proven TE-friendly system.

 
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Ok...I got 15 minutes before I leave work...who got picked since Scheffler?
5.12 76. Derek Tonn Branch, Deion SEA WR Thu Feb 15 1:05:07 a.m. PT 2007 5.13 77. Chris Overton Peppers, Julius CAR DE Thu Feb 15 8:15:54 a.m. PT 2007 5.14 78. Derek Tonn Norwood, Jerious ATL RB Thu Feb 15 9:14:35 a.m. PT 2007 5.15 79. Carlos Rodrigues Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB Thu Feb 15 9:14:35 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 5.16 80. Chris Overton Scheffler, Tony DEN TE Thu Feb 15 9:14:35 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 6.01 81. Terry Winfree Manning, Eli NYG QB Thu Feb 15 9:27:51 a.m. PT 2007 6.02 82. Jake Bachman Hawk, A.J. GBP LB Thu Feb 15 2:07:43 p.m. PT 2007 6.03 83. AJ Moura Lewis, Jamal BAL RB Thu Feb 15 2:07:43 p.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 6.04 84. Terry Winfree Urlacher, Brian CHI LB Thu Feb 15 2:07:43 p.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 6.05 85. Derek Tonn Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB Thu Feb 15 2:15:58 p.m. PT 2007 6.06 86. Ben Bregitzer Waiting On Ben Bregitzer For The Next Pick send me a pm, and i can make your pick if needed
 
At 6.05, I can let Hasselbeck fall NO MORE. Easily the BPA on the draft board...and it's not even close. I can't believe nobody picked him yet, but now between he and McNabb, I will have the best QB tandem in the league by a wide margin. I didn't want to go QB here, but Hasselbeck at 6.05? :lmao:

 
Ok...I got 15 minutes before I leave work...who got picked since Scheffler?
5.12 76. Derek Tonn Branch, Deion SEA WR Thu Feb 15 1:05:07 a.m. PT 2007 5.13 77. Chris Overton Peppers, Julius CAR DE Thu Feb 15 8:15:54 a.m. PT 2007 5.14 78. Derek Tonn Norwood, Jerious ATL RB Thu Feb 15 9:14:35 a.m. PT 2007 5.15 79. Carlos Rodrigues Roethlisberger, Ben PIT QB Thu Feb 15 9:14:35 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 5.16 80. Chris Overton Scheffler, Tony DEN TE Thu Feb 15 9:14:35 a.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 6.01 81. Terry Winfree Manning, Eli NYG QB Thu Feb 15 9:27:51 a.m. PT 2007 6.02 82. Jake Bachman Hawk, A.J. GBP LB Thu Feb 15 2:07:43 p.m. PT 2007 6.03 83. AJ Moura Lewis, Jamal BAL RB Thu Feb 15 2:07:43 p.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 6.04 84. Terry Winfree Urlacher, Brian CHI LB Thu Feb 15 2:07:43 p.m. PT 2007 Pick made based on Pre-Draft List 6.05 85. Derek Tonn Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB Thu Feb 15 2:15:58 p.m. PT 2007 6.06 86. Ben Bregitzer Waiting On Ben Bregitzer For The Next Pick send me a pm, and i can make your pick if needed
done ben, donte stallworth
 
I like the value of Roethlisberger after Romo, Rivers, and Cutler. He might be better than all of those guys and I think he has the best WRs of the bunch.

 
I like the value of Roethlisberger after Romo, Rivers, and Cutler. He might be better than all of those guys and I think he has the best WRs of the bunch.
The talk of the Steelers offense moving to more spread formations on early downs is promising for Ben as well.The head injury is a concern. I was talking to some Steeler friends of mine and they worry that Ben may suffer recuring concushions. Stating that each concushion makes a player more suceptable to having another one. I am not sure if that is true or not but it does cause me some concern.I think if not for the motorcycle accident Ben would have had a much better season last year than he did. And what he did last year was still progressive. He could really explode in 2007. FWP is a good compliment to a more agresive passing offense as well I think and it only makes sense to see the offense move in that direction.As far as Ward/Holmes/Miller/Washington being better recievers than TO/Glenn/Witten/Crayton.. I don't agree. They are younger and will last longer but I they are not better if TO/Glenn do not slip because of age.Ben is definitly a better QB than Romo however.
 
As far as Ward/Holmes/Miller/Washington being better recievers than TO/Glenn/Witten/Crayton.. I don't agree. They are younger and will last longer but I they are not better if TO/Glenn do not slip because of age.
I really feel like that hinges on TO. IMO, he's one of the most overrated dynasty WRs right now. He'll turn 34 this year. Can he possibly have more than 1-2 elite years left? He has always relied on physical ability to dominate, but old age will rob him of his natural advantage. He already showed signs of slowing down last year. Factor in his character issues and he's a major long-term risk. I think his name recognition is carrying his value too high, just like it did with Faulk, Holmes, and Barber when they were nearing the end.
 
6th round is done, and my aren't the LB's going fast!

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6.01 Terry Winfree Manning, Eli NYG QB 12:27:51 p.m. 6.02 Jake Bachman Hawk, A.J. GBP LB 5:07:43 p.m. 6.03 AJ Moura Lewis, Jamal BAL RB 5:07:43 p.m. 6.04 Terry Winfree Urlacher, Brian CHI LB 5:07:43 p.m. 6.05 Derek Tonn Hasselbeck, Matt SEA QB 5:15:58 p.m. 6.06 Ben Bregitzer Stallworth, Donte' PHI WR 5:24:28 p.m. 6.07 Aaron Rudnicki Bulluck, Keith TEN LB 5:49:05 p.m. 6.08 Jake Parrish Jones, Matt JAC WR 8:10:52 p.m. 6.09 Jake Parrish Campbell, Jason WAS QB 8:14:10 p.m. 6.10 Jeff Pasquino Briggs, Lance CHI LB 8:14:10 p.m. 6.11 Derek Tonn Furrey, Mike DET WR 8:36:16 p.m. 6.12 Terry Winfree Ware, Demarcus DAL LB 8:36:16 p.m. 6.13 Derek Tonn Scott, Bart BAL LB 8:46:50 p.m. 6.14 Marc Faletti Henry, Travis TEN RB 8:58:18 p.m. 6.15 Derek Tonn Fletcher-Baker, London BUF LB 9:08:10 p.m. 6.16 Chris Overton Suggs, Terrell BAL DE 9:08:10 p.m.
 
At 6.05, I can let Hasselbeck fall NO MORE. Easily the BPA on the draft board...and it's not even close. I can't believe nobody picked him yet, but now between he and McNabb, I will have the best QB tandem in the league by a wide margin. I didn't want to go QB here, but Hasselbeck at 6.05? :pickle:
in a 16 team league :thumbup: I'd have a hard time taking Urlacher, Jamal Lewis, Branch, or Norwood over him.
 
At 6.11, I went WR Mike Furrey, Lions. He won't have as much value in 2007 if the Lions move him into the slot, but I still think he has 850-900 yards in him. "The best of the rest" was kind of how I was looking at that WR pick, at least for "now". There are other WRs out there I will need to land in order to help for later.

At 6.13, I went with LB Bart Scott, Ravens. Rated very highly on my board, though I expect a bit of criticism from some here. With his younger age, upward trends in production and the potential departure of A. Thomas in free agency, I thought he presents good value at this spot.

At 6.15, I went with LB London Fletcher-Baker, Bills (FA). The only downside here is age (32). I wish he were a year or two younger, but I think he's still got 3-4 solid seasons in him. Didn't think he would be there at 7.04, so I decided to pull the trigger.

Bloom's recent interview talking about Furrey moving to the slot made me feel a little :D about the 6.11 pick, but I am very happy overall with how my roster is shaping up. We'll see what the 7.04 will bring.....

 
At 6.15, I went with LB London Fletcher-Baker, Bills (FA). The only downside here is age (32). I wish he were a year or two younger, but I think he's still got 3-4 solid seasons in him. Didn't think he would be there at 7.04, so I decided to pull the trigger.
He's an unrestricted free agent and most speculation suggests the Bills won't re-sign him. He'll still likely be productive no matter where he plays, but there's certainly some uncertainty involved when a player changes teams/systems.
 
Does anyone else feel that rounds 4-10 are where we're beginning (and will continue to) see seperation?

 
Thomas Jones at 7.03? Wow. Love that value as a backup RB.

Does anyone else feel that rounds 4-10 are where we're beginning (and will continue to) see seperation?
Kind of. Aside from a few players like DeAngelo Williams, Vernon Davis, and Laurence Maroney, most of the guys chosen in the top 50 have proven themselves in the NFL to some degree. Now that a lot of the quality veteran talent is off the board, more teams are starting to take chances on "potential," which is always risky territory. Leinart, Romo, Cutler, Norwood, and Scheffler are speculative picks that could pay off, but could also flop. It's hard to gauge their value to a roster because they're largely unknown quantities.
 
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7.04 Sigmund Bloom Marshall, Brandon DEN WR 10:17:34 p.m.

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The head injury is a concern. I was talking to some Steeler friends of mine and they worry that Ben may suffer recuring concushions. Stating that each concushion makes a player more suceptable to having another one. I am not sure if that is true or not but it does cause me some concern.
Absolutely true that a person who sustains one significant concussion is at higher risk for others. Studies suggest the risk is between two and three times that of a person who's never had one. The risk is higher with each concussion, especially if the concussions occur in a short time frame, and future concussions may be more severe.
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At 7.06, I didn't have an "EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE", but I am happy to see Santonio Holmes fall to that spot. I don't like his off the field issues, but between the lines, he's about as good a value at WR that we are gonna find at this stage. Also thought about guys like Jennings, Berrian and Matt Jones, but I like Holmes' upside a little bit more. Again, I'm sure the pick will be FAR from "consensus", but at this stage of the draft, our valuations are going to start getting more and more diverse.

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I'd been eyeing Santonio for awhile now but passed on him for Cotchery, Bulluck, and Allen...surprised he lasted as long as he did. I think you got a steal.

 

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