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Ministry of Pain
Footballguy
This is fun. Is everybody seeing the network pimip itself with the banner adds pleading with you to call so you can enjoy it the entire season...they are going to make a major uproar to coincide with the FCC forcing Time Warner to keep the NFL on for the immeditae time being
jurb26
Footballguy
Details please.
Brunell to Cooley all day.McNair to Mason all day.Although it is 7 on 7 and the defense is at a clear disadvantage with no pass rush.Details please.
jurb26
Footballguy
Brunell to Cooley all day.Details please.
bbuster
Footballguy
Good point, but I'm just noticing that he is putting the ball in the perfect spot every time where the receiver can only get it...Cooley isn't running wide open...the coverage was actually pretty tight.
bbuster
Footballguy
I didn't see who hit him. I just heard he was "slow to get up". Anyone know what happened?
fatness
Footballguy
He was picking up a blitzing LB or DB on the left side, and kind of slid off the screen as the play developed. It seemed like Anderson met the defender head on, and then perhaps was being lifted upward as he went off camera. Word I read elsewhere (Baltimore Sun maybe?) was "mild concussion, out 2-3 days".
Jeff Pasquino
Footballguy
Baltimore SunMike Anderson - mild concussion. No word how long he'll be out.fatness said:
Any other comments would be welcome. I'm at the in-laws with no NFL Network
Hawkeyeskin
Footballguy
I agree with Kenlin. Sean Taylor laid a pretty nasty hit on Anderson knocking him flat on his back. I think that played a big part in the concussion.
fatness
Footballguy
vilma talked about when they played together at miami, & hurricane defenders would have their head on a swivel near pile ups because THEY didn't want to take an errant kill shot from tayor... & thats what he did to his friends... just think what he does to the enemy... 
jurb26
Footballguy
The guy has unreal range as a saftey. Matched only by Reed.
Cookiemonster
Footballguy
From what I saw of the scrimmage, I wasn't impressed w/ what M.A. did before he got clocked. He looked to me like Dillon did last year (running in sand). I was however pleased w/ Musa and P.J., but I thought the best RBs on the field were Lumsden and #37 (D.Carter?).
J.Campbell looked O.K., but was putting all the short hitches and swing passes in the dirt. Seemed to me he was hanging on too tight (Cougar from Top Gun). The other throws down the field did look O.K. and he showed good mobility getting out of the pocket and seemed to have a pretty good pocket presense for a 2nd year QB.
'Skins O is going to put up better all-around fantasy stats this year. Rather than being a home-run threat w/ Moss they look to be much more multi-dimentional and balanced. O-line was opening up holes w/ regularity and there looks to be an abundance of screen passes (hint, hint to those in ppr leagues drafting @ the 4th or 5th spot).
J.Campbell looked O.K., but was putting all the short hitches and swing passes in the dirt. Seemed to me he was hanging on too tight (Cougar from Top Gun). The other throws down the field did look O.K. and he showed good mobility getting out of the pocket and seemed to have a pretty good pocket presense for a 2nd year QB.
'Skins O is going to put up better all-around fantasy stats this year. Rather than being a home-run threat w/ Moss they look to be much more multi-dimentional and balanced. O-line was opening up holes w/ regularity and there looks to be an abundance of screen passes (hint, hint to those in ppr leagues drafting @ the 4th or 5th spot).
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jurb26
Footballguy
I've been saying this for months and nobody seems to want to listen. Saunders throws to his RBs folks, get used to it.
You can call Brunell lots of things, but implying that he's either not tough or that he's dumb with what he does with the football is way off base.
redman
Footballguy
Fortunately, those short passes are the easiest ones to learn. I'm relieved (both as a 'Skins fan and also as a Cambpell dynasty drafter last year) that Campbell seems to be developing nicely. Gibbs likes to take his time with young QB's, and honestly I wouldn't mind it if Brunell can stay healthy and effective enough to remain the starter for two more seasons. Campbell seems like he could turn into a guy like Rypien, who with a good team around him is good for 20+ TD's, 3500+ yards, and a 3:2 TD-to-INT ratio (if not better). As for Taylor, yeah he's pretty much of a freak. He runs like a CB and hits like a LB; he also has excellent hands. I'm convinced that he could be a Pro Bowl caliber CB if they played him there. Someone posted a quote on Extremeskins.com yesterday that had Brandon Lloyd recounting a conversation he had with Moss on the sidelines. Lloyd was saying to Moss that he was sure glad he didn't have to face Taylor, and Moss replied that he'd said the exact same thing last year.
I was just watching TV, and BHN is starting to pimp football season.
fatness
Footballguy
Redskins.com Article
There is film of the first hit, where Taylor picked up Anderson and planted him, on redskins.com under the video "Scrimmage Wrap-Up". You can also see the beginning of the next play where Anderson was in pass protection blocking someone, but you can't see who it was or what happened. His concussion may have been caused by the previous hit.link
jurb26
Footballguy
I agree that he could be that good, but the boy's got some catching up to do.
redman
Footballguy
The reason for the LT comparison (potentially, if he holds it together for five more years or so at a minimum) for me is that he has unique and terrifying athletic talent, and he's got a mean on-field mentality and persona. I've seen more alligator arms in the last two years among receivers playing the Redskins than I've seen in the ten years previous, and I attribute that to him primarily. Even Pinkston's "alligator body" on that Sunday night game, when Taylor wasn't even near him, may have been due to Pinky thinking Taylor was lurking.I know that I may sound like a homer talking about him like this, but the guy truly has rare talent, and unlike Lavar he doesn't freelance and play stupid (other than spitting
).
dgreen
Footballguy
Lumsden did look pretty good and he got some plays against either first or second team guys. He was excellent at using his blockers. Anyone know if he can play special teams?
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
The only problem is that this is some kind of "golden age" for safeties. You've got guys in Baltimore and Pittsburgh that may not hit quite as hard, but have equally impressive skill sets overall. (And then there's the guy in Dallas who is somehow getting paid more than all of them.
I know that I may sound like a homer talking about him like this, but the guy truly has rare talent, and unlike Lavar he doesn't freelance and play stupid (other than spitting
)It's going to be really hard for ANY of these safeties to stand head and shoulders above each other.
dgreen
Footballguy
I really hope there aren't too many people who seriously consider Roy Williams to be better than Sean Taylor.The only problem is that this is some kind of "golden age" for safeties. You've got guys in Baltimore and Pittsburgh that may not hit quite as hard, but have equally impressive skill sets overall. (And then there's the guy in Dallas who is somehow getting paid more than all of them.
redman
Footballguy
You've only named four, and of those four one doesn't deserve to be mentioned as being part of any "golden age", unless you mean for that to include meritless hype (Roy Williams - learn to cover someone in pass coverage past your rookie year if you want to color me impressed). I agree that Reed and Polamalu deserve mention with Taylor, however I don't think Polamalu's coverage skills quite rate with Reed's or Taylor's; all of them are definitely play-makers and ball-hawks.The only problem is that this is some kind of "golden age" for safeties. You've got guys in Baltimore and Pittsburgh that may not hit quite as hard, but have equally impressive skill sets overall. (And then there's the guy in Dallas who is somehow getting paid more than all of them.
I know that I may sound like a homer talking about him like this, but the guy truly has rare talent, and unlike Lavar he doesn't freelance and play stupid (other than spitting
Mungo Burrows
Footballguy
I certainly don't consider a guy whose only skill seems to be breaking players legs and blowing coverage to be on the same level as the others, but the fact that he is so hyped (and well paid) means the media will continue to cover him as if he were. I may be biased (both of us could be accused of homerism) but I would consider Reed to be superior in pass coverage, while Taylor is the biggest hitter. Polamalu's got a very good overall game and nose for the ball. I really don't know enough of where his real strengths lie, but he's definitely in the conversation as well. Each has his strength, and all are great.You've only named four, and of those four one doesn't deserve to be mentioned as being part of any "golden age", unless you mean for that to include meritless hype (Roy Williams - learn to cover someone in pass coverage past your rookie year if you want to color me impressed). I agree that Reed and Polamalu deserve mention with Taylor, however I don't think Polamalu's coverage skills quite rate with Reed's or Taylor's; all of them are definitely play-makers and ball-hawks.The only problem is that this is some kind of "golden age" for safeties. You've got guys in Baltimore and Pittsburgh that may not hit quite as hard, but have equally impressive skill sets overall. (And then there's the guy in Dallas who is somehow getting paid more than all of them.
I know that I may sound like a homer talking about him like this, but the guy truly has rare talent, and unlike Lavar he doesn't freelance and play stupid (other than spitting
My point was that LT stood above and beyond anything the League had seen from his position, and he was alone in that regard for much of his career. The very fact that we can talk about at least three safeties being at least somewhat close to each other at the top of the game means none of them will be able to stand out the way LT did.
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dgreen
Footballguy
IIRC, his first couple plays were ugly, but he had some really nice throws as the scrimmage progressed. He's going to get plenty of action this preseason, so we'll get a better feel over the next few weeks.
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dgreen
Footballguy
He didn't play.
fatness
Footballguy
Yes he did look good. Yes he does play special teams. And yes, Joe Gibbs singled him out for moderate praise after the game. I saw it on it TV so no link.
redman
Footballguy
He threw some nice deep passes that were on target, and he showed good pocket awareness. IMHO the short passes were just a product of nerves. I'm not at all upset by his performance, although I will certainly want to see improvement from him.
King of the Jungle
Footballguy
Any Mark Clayton sightings, or is the hammy keeping him out?
wannabee
Footballguy
he ran full speed at practice today
