Redskins CB Terrorized By Old Man (1 Viewer)

[Truman]

Redskins CB Terrorized By Old Man

Old man swore at Hall

By CHRIS NEEDHAM

Updated 9:55 AM EST, Mon, Nov 9, 2009

How low was yesterday's loss to Atlanta? We found out that even the Falcons coach is tougher than the Redskins.

DeAngelo Hall, the Skins cornerback, is afraid of the Falcons 50-year-old silver-haired head coach, Mike Smith. Smith, Hall alleges, roughed him up on the sideline during a skirmish and said a bad word to him. A bad word!

So instead of going home to get his father to see if he could beat up Mike Smith's father, Hall's going to the principal. He said he's planning on calling the NFL commish to complain about Smith's treatment. Teacher, teacher! Come help me!

After the game, Hall told reporters:

"When he comes over to put his hands on you in a harmful way, something needs to be done about that. Like I said, I'm going to call Commissioner Goodell. Ray Anderson, who used to be with the Falcons, I know him very well, and he's the vice president over there in the league office. I definitely will be calling some of my friends to work out this situation."

You hear that, old man? He's calling the authorities. Just be lucky he hasn't (yet) called Judge Wapner.

Hall whined more, "He put his hands on me in a harmful way. Talking about that he was going to kick my [patoot] and all this other [poop]. That's not how you do things."

Damn right, DeAngelo. There's no room for this kind of rough-house physical contact on a football field. Coach Smith should've followed MeAngelo's on-field lesson and avoided all physical contact.

On the other sideline, Coach Jim Zorn was relieved it didn't escalate, telling reporters, "I knew DeAngelo was over there, and that was a bad place for him to be. I'm glad it didn't turn into something ugly."

Not something ugly? The old-man coach swore at one of your players in an unkind way -- you want to talk about blackened hearts? And he was touched in a "harmful way." Harmful!

We're lucky MeAngelo survived the encounter with the old man. But there'll be hell to pay once Hall complains to the right person. Hell. To. Pay.

http://www.nbcwashington.com/news/sports/S...n-69556282.html

 

[PatrickT]

Hall defines the word D-bag.

 

[Bizkiteer]

LOL @ the stupidity of that article. It's not like it's a 50 yr old man and 20 something old guy are on the street. It's football and coaches from other team's are not supposed to touch the team's players. If DHall would have hit the coach, he would have been fined and suspended. He's smart not to do anything more, but he wants the same treatment from the NFL as any player would get for the actions. Matter of fact, coaches are supposed to set the example...one could even say that the NFL should treat it more severly than a player. Mike Smith might be a smart football coach, but he was stupid for getting involved in the manner he did.

 

[PatrickT]

LOL @ the stupidity of that article. It's not like it's a 50 yr old man and 20 something old guy on the street. It's football and coaches from other team's are not supposed to touch the team's players. If DHall would have hit the coach, he would have been fined and suspended. He's smart not to do anything more, but he wants the same treatment from the NFL as any player would get for the actions. Matter of fact, coaches are supposed to set the example...one could even say that the NFL should treat it more severly than a player. Mike Smith might be a smart football coach, but he was stupid for getting involved in the manner he did.

I've watched that replay several times. Hall came in hardly involved in the play and started pushing and shoving and talking smack, Smith was trying to break it up, as was the other line coach. I look forward to Hall calling the commish, and then getting a fine for his actions after he takes a look. If Smith gets anything, it'll be a slap on the wrist to appease the players union. I've seen Hall do this so many times, good riddance to his childish act.

 

[Phurfur]

LOL @ the stupidity of that article. It's not like it's a 50 yr old man and 20 something old guy are on the street. It's football and coaches from other team's are not supposed to touch the team's players. If DHall would have hit the coach, he would have been fined and suspended. He's smart not to do anything more, but he wants the same treatment from the NFL as any player would get for the actions. Matter of fact, coaches are supposed to set the example...one could even say that the NFL should treat it more severly than a player. Mike Smith might be a smart football coach, but he was stupid for getting involved in the manner he did.

I think Smith should be permamently banned from the NFL for these actions. We need more poeple like DHall and less people like Smith in the NFL.

 

[Manster]

LOL @ the stupidity of that article. It's not like it's a 50 yr old man and 20 something old guy are on the street. :( It's football and coaches from other team's are not supposed to touch the team's players. If DHall would have hit the coach, he would have been fined and suspended. He's smart not to do anything more, but he wants the same treatment from the NFL as any player would get for the actions. Matter of fact, coaches are supposed to set the example...one could even say that the NFL should treat it more severly than a player. Mike Smith might be a smart football coach, but he was stupid for getting involved in the manner he did.

I think Smith should be permamently banned from the NFL for these actions. We need more poeple like DHall and less people like Smith in the NFL.

 

[belljr]

Where's the quotes from Hall where he said he still lives in Atlanta in the off-season and if Smith wants to kick his ###, and talk #### he can do it to my face in the offseason - or something like that

 

[Buffaloes]

Mike Smith is ok in my book.

 

[PatrickT]

Where's the quotes from Hall where he said he still lives in Atlanta in the off-season and if Smith wants to kick his ###, and talk #### he can do it to my face in the offseason - or something like that

http://www.ajc.com/sports/atlanta-falcons/...0232.html"</a>"]Link"Later on, coach Smith, Mike came over and grabbed me, talking [stuff] to me," Hall said. "Saying he'll kick my [butt] and all this other [stuff]. I definitely stay in Atlanta in the offseason. So if Mike Smith wants to see me, he can find me."

 

[PatrickT]

Can the OP turn this into a poll? Since this has been brought up, and I and Redskins fans are obviously biased towards our guys, I'm curious as to what unbiased folks think of this.

Who was most at fault?

Hall

Mostly Hall, some Smith

Hall and Smith equally

Mostly Smith, some Hall

Smith

This is a good clip of what happened, I think.

Clip of incident

 

[Dexter Manley]

While I've been thoroughly disgusted with Hall's play this season, it boggles my mind how Smith hasn't been suspended for a game yet. Guy did his best Woody Hayes impersonation on the sideline with Hall.

Let's see. Tommie Harris throws a punch at a player and gets ejected, and I'm sure he'll probably get fined. Woody Smith throws a punch at a player and nothing has yet to happen. Hell, IIRC the refs didn't even throw a flag on Smith for his deplorable actions.

If the league doesn't come down hard on Mike "Woody" Smith, this will just further reinforce the fact that Goodell is the worst nfl commish of my lifetime.

 

[TommyGilmore]

Don Zimmer's got Mike Smith's back!

 

[Pickle Rody]

While I've been thoroughly disgusted with Hall's play this season, it boggles my mind how Smith hasn't been suspended for a game yet. Guy did his best Woody Hayes impersonation on the sideline with Hall.

Let's see. Tommie Harris throws a punch at a player and gets ejected, and I'm sure he'll probably get fined. Woody Smith throws a punch at a player and nothing has yet to happen. Hell, IIRC the refs didn't even throw a flag on Smith for his deplorable actions.

If the league doesn't come down hard on Mike "Woody" Smith, this will just further reinforce the fact that Goodell is the worst nfl commish of my lifetime.

I watched that play and the ensuing skirmish and clearly Hall threw a punch into Smith's chest first. Both should get fines. Hall acted just as deplorable if that is even the correct term to use about Smith's actions, which I do not believe it is.

Your post is a joke.

 

[Dexter Manley]

While I've been thoroughly disgusted with Hall's play this season, it boggles my mind how Smith hasn't been suspended for a game yet. Guy did his best Woody Hayes impersonation on the sideline with Hall.

Let's see. Tommie Harris throws a punch at a player and gets ejected, and I'm sure he'll probably get fined. Woody Smith throws a punch at a player and nothing has yet to happen. Hell, IIRC the refs didn't even throw a flag on Smith for his deplorable actions.

If the league doesn't come down hard on Mike "Woody" Smith, this will just further reinforce the fact that Goodell is the worst nfl commish of my lifetime.

I watched that play and the ensuing skirmish and clearly Hall threw a punch into Smith's chest first. Both should get fines. Hall acted just as deplorable if that is even the correct term to use about Smith's actions, which I do not believe it is.

Your post is a joke.

Hall threw a punch? The guy was getting mobbed by the entire Falcons' sideline, basically getting pushed and shoved from all angles. Hall was just trying to keep people off of him and stay on his feet. Anyone who has ever been caught in the middle of an angry mob situation such as this, should understand what I'm talking about.Then Woody Smith comes over and ESCALATES the situation by throwing a punch at Hall, and threatening him.

Just because Hall has generally been a dbag in the past doesn't mean the opposing team's head coach has carte blanche to throw a punch at him.

Goodell has a great chance to improve his image here. Let's hope he does the right thing and suspend Smith for the next game.

 

[The Redbeard]

While I've been thoroughly disgusted with Hall's play this season, it boggles my mind how Smith hasn't been suspended for a game yet. Guy did his best Woody Hayes impersonation on the sideline with Hall.

Let's see. Tommie Harris throws a punch at a player and gets ejected, and I'm sure he'll probably get fined. Woody Smith throws a punch at a player and nothing has yet to happen. Hell, IIRC the refs didn't even throw a flag on Smith for his deplorable actions.

If the league doesn't come down hard on Mike "Woody" Smith, this will just further reinforce the fact that Goodell is the worst nfl commish of my lifetime.

I watched that play and the ensuing skirmish and clearly Hall threw a punch into Smith's chest first. Both should get fines. Hall acted just as deplorable if that is even the correct term to use about Smith's actions, which I do not believe it is.

Your post is a joke.

Hall threw a punch? The guy was getting mobbed by the entire Falcons' sideline, basically getting pushed and shoved from all angles. Hall was just trying to keep people off of him and stay on his feet. Anyone who has ever been caught in the middle of an angry mob situation such as this, should understand what I'm talking about.Then Woody Smith comes over and ESCALATES the situation by throwing a punch at Hall, and threatening him.

Just because Hall has generally been a dbag in the past doesn't mean the opposing team's head coach has carte blanche to throw a punch at him.

Goodell has a great chance to improve his image here. Let's hope he does the right thing and suspend Smith for the next game.

Wow. It's amazing how people can watch the same thing and see it totally differently. I see no punch thrown by Smith. A second Redskin player pulls Hall and as they all start to move a little bit towards the field, Smiths elbow comes up and yes, he pushes Hall away from the sideline and asks him very kindly to get the $*@% back to his side of the field . I'm sorry, but 50 year old coach in street clothes bumps chests with a fully equipped player and we want to suspend him for a game? No thanks. Especially if your rational is so Goodell can improve HIS image.What really cracks me up is that if everything went exactly the same way (hit out of bounds on ATL sideline) and Smith didn't get involved, someone on this board would have started a thread about how Smiths doesn't have the back of his players. I guess we need something to argue about.

 

[Donnybrook]

Can the OP turn this into a poll? Since this has been brought up, and I and Redskins fans are obviously biased towards our guys, I'm curious as to what unbiased folks think of this.

Who was most at fault?

Hall

Mostly Hall, some Smith

Hall and Smith equally

Mostly Smith, some Hall

Smith

This is a good clip of what happened, I think.

Clip of incident

Other: Landry

 

[Knight who says Ni]

I am not a fan of Hall, but coaches are the ones who are supposed to set an example to their players. How can a coach chastise his players about losing their cool when he cannot control himself. Sorry, but in my opinion, coaches should be held to a higher standard ... and it's not like Hall's standard is very high to begin with

 

[southeastjerome]

I think it was a 50/50 thing. Watching the clip over and over, Hall puts his hands up separating 41 and 51 of Atlanta from going after Landry. Then the strength and conditioning coach comes in and he grabs a hold of Hall. Seeing Hall and this guy locked up and seething mad, Smith comes in out of control and starts bugging out. As the pile separates Hall from strength and conditioning dbag, Smith meets Hall and Hall from there didn't exactly walk away. If the strength guy doesn't come in and grab a hold of Hall, does anyone actually think this happens? Clearly Hall's first move on the sidelines is putting both hands up one to 41 and 51 on Atlanta and one pushing Landry away. Thats when the other dude comes in.

Regardless, here is a pretty good breakdown.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsb...melee.html#more

 

[PatrickT]

I also see no punch thrown by Smith. What I do see is Landry walking out to the middle of the field, completely unfazed, unscathed and unimpeded by any Falcon player or coach. At 0:13,you can see Landry and Ryan walking onto the field side-by-side, while Hall has jumped in and got into it with 51 (Sidbury, I think) and someone else. He did that, as near as I can tell, with little or no provocation. I'm telling, I've seen this before. Hall is SOOO easily baited, Steve Smith made a career of it. The slightest remark sends him off the deep end, and that's what you saw here, IMO. A totally undisciplined hot head, he's learned nothing.

 

[southeastjerome]

I also see no punch thrown by Smith. What I do see is Landry walking out to the middle of the field, completely unfazed, unscathed and unimpeded by any Falcon player or coach. At 0:13,you can see Landry and Ryan walking onto the field side-by-side, while Hall has jumped in and got into it with 51 (Sidbury, I think) and someone else. He did that, as near as I can tell, with little or no provocation. I'm telling, I've seen this before. Hall is SOOO easily baited, Steve Smith made a career of it. The slightest remark sends him off the deep end, and that's what you saw here, IMO. A totally undisciplined hot head, he's learned nothing.

You forgot to mention the strength and conditioning coach coming over and grabbing Hall, keeping him over on the sidelines. Watch the link and pausing and playing slowly from the 11 to the 13 second mark. You'll see Hall's first move is to keep 41 and 51 away from Landry.

 

[PatrickT]

I think it was a 50/50 thing. Watching the clip over and over, Hall puts his hands up separating 41 and 51 of Atlanta from going after Landry. Then the strength and conditioning coach comes in and he grabs a hold of Hall. Seeing Hall and this guy locked up and seething mad, Smith comes in out of control and starts bugging out. As the pile separates Hall from strength and conditioning dbag, Smith meets Hall and Hall from there didn't exactly walk away. If the strength guy doesn't come in and grab a hold of Hall, does anyone actually think this happens? Clearly Hall's first move on the sidelines is putting both hands up one to 41 and 51 on Atlanta and one pushing Landry away. Thats when the other dude comes in.

Regardless, here is a pretty good breakdown.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/dcsportsb...melee.html#more

This synopsis loses credibility right here, for me:

"I ran over there to kind of pull my guy away. One of their strength and conditioning coaches put his hands on me and started grabbing me. Then it went to various other guys pulling at me and grabbing me. Through the whole time, I'm trying to get the guys' hands off of me."

Again, I realize Hall sometimes talks too much, but his quote seems to accurately reflect what happened. Also, I have a policy that directors of athletic performance should stick to helping athletes perform, rather than attempting to perform themselves.

"His guy" was walking out on the field at the time. And if you watch the clip, Hall goes straight into a bunch of Falcon players, essentially pulling Landry out of the way so he can get there. There is then, a lot of smug commentary about Smith. The "punch" was actually a result of Hall shoving him away while Smith was trying to break it up, at which point, he really did get hot. Anyone who truly thinks a 50 year old coach is going to swing at a fully padded, helmeted 25 year old pro athlete is deluding themselves, he was trying to push him off the sidelines, that was it.

 

[PatrickT]

I also see no punch thrown by Smith. What I do see is Landry walking out to the middle of the field, completely unfazed, unscathed and unimpeded by any Falcon player or coach. At 0:13,you can see Landry and Ryan walking onto the field side-by-side, while Hall has jumped in and got into it with 51 (Sidbury, I think) and someone else. He did that, as near as I can tell, with little or no provocation. I'm telling, I've seen this before. Hall is SOOO easily baited, Steve Smith made a career of it. The slightest remark sends him off the deep end, and that's what you saw here, IMO. A totally undisciplined hot head, he's learned nothing.

You forgot to mention the strength and conditioning coach coming over and grabbing Hall, keeping him over on the sidelines. Watch the link and pausing and playing slowly from the 11 to the 13 second mark. You'll see Hall's first move is to keep 41 and 51 away from Landry.

I disagree, the coach is not holding him, he was trying to push him on to the field and off the sidelines, and Hall turns to him and starts walking into him, at which point he grabs hold to keep Hall off of him.

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Hall should try to keep on the DL while he's still playing, so no one notices how crappy he is. It's comical that this guy has been able to draw such big money in the NFL this long and have the Raiders, now Redskins fooled into thinking he's worthy of rostering. I think he's one of the worst CB's in the league. He must be a good actor though since he's fooled a few teams.

 

[southeastjerome]

Hall should try to keep on the DL while he's still playing, so no one notices how crappy he is. It's comical that this guy has been able to draw such big money in the NFL this long and have the Raiders, now Redskins fooled into thinking he's worthy of rostering. I think he's one of the worst CB's in the league. He must be a good actor though since he's fooled a few teams.

How many Skins games have you watched? Hall was terrific last season for the Redskins and he's been decent this year. Certainly not one of the worst CB's in the league.

 

[southeastjerome]

I also see no punch thrown by Smith. What I do see is Landry walking out to the middle of the field, completely unfazed, unscathed and unimpeded by any Falcon player or coach. At 0:13,you can see Landry and Ryan walking onto the field side-by-side, while Hall has jumped in and got into it with 51 (Sidbury, I think) and someone else. He did that, as near as I can tell, with little or no provocation. I'm telling, I've seen this before. Hall is SOOO easily baited, Steve Smith made a career of it. The slightest remark sends him off the deep end, and that's what you saw here, IMO. A totally undisciplined hot head, he's learned nothing.

You forgot to mention the strength and conditioning coach coming over and grabbing Hall, keeping him over on the sidelines. Watch the link and pausing and playing slowly from the 11 to the 13 second mark. You'll see Hall's first move is to keep 41 and 51 away from Landry.

I disagree, the coach is not holding him, he was trying to push him on to the field and off the sidelines, and Hall turns to him and starts walking into him, at which point he grabs hold to keep Hall off of him.

When trying to push someone away, grabbing is a less than ideal technique.

 

[Buffaloes]

Hall should try to keep on the DL while he's still playing, so no one notices how crappy he is. It's comical that this guy has been able to draw such big money in the NFL this long and have the Raiders, now Redskins fooled into thinking he's worthy of rostering. I think he's one of the worst CB's in the league. He must be a good actor though since he's fooled a few teams.

Same thing I've been thinking for years. This guy might be the most overrated player in the NFL. I still every time I think of Eddie Royal running circles around Hall in Royal's 1st pro game. Hall got so pissed he was getting beat by a rook on national tv, he took a 15 yard penalty after laying a cheap shot on Royal late in the game.

 

[fatness]

Smith punching Hall

 

[scrumptrulescent]

Hall should try to keep on the DL while he's still playing, so no one notices how crappy he is. It's comical that this guy has been able to draw such big money in the NFL this long and have the Raiders, now Redskins fooled into thinking he's worthy of rostering. I think he's one of the worst CB's in the league. He must be a good actor though since he's fooled a few teams.

How many Skins games have you watched? Hall was terrific last season for the Redskins and he's been decent this year. Certainly not one of the worst CB's in the league.

Enough to know he's not worth this....

Contract Information for DeAngelo Hall

2/27/2009: Signed a six-year, $55 million contract. The deal contains $22.5 million guaranteed, including a $15 million option bonus. 2009: $5 million, 2014: Under Contract, 2015: Free Agent. Cap charges: $5.3 million (2009), $6.8 million (2010).

The man's done awfully well for himself based on past reputation. He's not that good at all imo.

 

[JuniorNB]

Hall is SOOO easily baited, Steve Smith made a career of it. The slightest remark sends him off the deep end, and that's what you saw here, IMO. A totally undisciplined hot head, he's learned nothing.

lease report to the Elizabeth Lambert thread:

 

[PatrickT]

I also see no punch thrown by Smith. What I do see is Landry walking out to the middle of the field, completely unfazed, unscathed and unimpeded by any Falcon player or coach. At 0:13,you can see Landry and Ryan walking onto the field side-by-side, while Hall has jumped in and got into it with 51 (Sidbury, I think) and someone else. He did that, as near as I can tell, with little or no provocation. I'm telling, I've seen this before. Hall is SOOO easily baited, Steve Smith made a career of it. The slightest remark sends him off the deep end, and that's what you saw here, IMO. A totally undisciplined hot head, he's learned nothing.

You forgot to mention the strength and conditioning coach coming over and grabbing Hall, keeping him over on the sidelines. Watch the link and pausing and playing slowly from the 11 to the 13 second mark. You'll see Hall's first move is to keep 41 and 51 away from Landry.

I disagree, the coach is not holding him, he was trying to push him on to the field and off the sidelines, and Hall turns to him and starts walking into him, at which point he grabs hold to keep Hall off of him.

When trying to push someone away, grabbing is a less than ideal technique.

Guess you missed the bolded part.

 

[PatrickT]

Smith punching Hall

You can clearly see Hall's arm underneath Smith's pushing him. He's even stepping into it.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Smith punching Hall

You can clearly see Hall's arm underneath Smith's pushing him. He's even stepping into it.

 

[PatrickT]

Smith punching Hall

You can clearly see Hall's arm underneath Smith's pushing him. He's even stepping into it.

I can only assume that you're laughing at how ridiculous the claim that Smith threw a punch is.Link

Smith had his hands on Hall's chest, pushing him to the field, Hall pushed Smith off, it's that simple. Now, you want to say Smith shouldn't have pushing? Ok, fine, we can have that discussion, but he did NOT throw a punch.

 

[DA RAIDERS]

hall's lucky it wasn't cable.

& hall is a complete ####### joke.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Meangelo is a huge waste of talent. What a loser. In every respect of the word.

 

[Hipple Long Ware & Peete]

Hall should try to keep on the DL while he's still playing, so no one notices how crappy he is. It's comical that this guy has been able to draw such big money in the NFL this long and have the Raiders, now Redskins fooled into thinking he's worthy of rostering. I think he's one of the worst CB's in the league. He must be a good actor though since he's fooled a few teams.

How many Skins games have you watched? Hall was terrific last season for the Redskins and he's been decent this year. Certainly not one of the worst CB's in the league.

He's getting burnt for tds every time I have seen him. Not to mention what Eddie Royal did to him week 1 on MNF.

 

[SharkBait]

I watched the clip a few times and it appears that Mike Smith pulls a knife on Hall. He's lucky to be alive.

 

[Rovers]

Smith brought his elbow and fore arm up. He didn't throw an elbow or a punch. He did use his arm to push Hall, but that's it.

In any case, it was Landry's fault. You don't hit a QB when he is out of bounds in the NFL, period. Looked like an intent to injure by Landry to me. Hall is just a turd. He went into that sideline looking for trouble, and didn't just find it, he created it.

 

[Sidewinder16]

Landry and Haynesworth have received fines. Mike Smith and DeAngelo Hall will also receive fines, "reportedly".

 

[southeastjerome]

Hall should try to keep on the DL while he's still playing, so no one notices how crappy he is. It's comical that this guy has been able to draw such big money in the NFL this long and have the Raiders, now Redskins fooled into thinking he's worthy of rostering. I think he's one of the worst CB's in the league. He must be a good actor though since he's fooled a few teams.

How many Skins games have you watched? Hall was terrific last season for the Redskins and he's been decent this year. Certainly not one of the worst CB's in the league.

Enough to know he's not worth this....

Contract Information for DeAngelo Hall

2/27/2009: Signed a six-year, $55 million contract. The deal contains $22.5 million guaranteed, including a $15 million option bonus. 2009: $5 million, 2014: Under Contract, 2015: Free Agent. Cap charges: $5.3 million (2009), $6.8 million (2010).

The man's done awfully well for himself based on past reputation. He's not that good at all imo.

I never anything about them overpaying or not. You said Hall is one of the worst CBs in the league, which is ludicrous.

 

[southeastjerome]

Hall should try to keep on the DL while he's still playing, so no one notices how crappy he is. It's comical that this guy has been able to draw such big money in the NFL this long and have the Raiders, now Redskins fooled into thinking he's worthy of rostering. I think he's one of the worst CB's in the league. He must be a good actor though since he's fooled a few teams.

How many Skins games have you watched? Hall was terrific last season for the Redskins and he's been decent this year. Certainly not one of the worst CB's in the league.

He's getting burnt for tds every time I have seen him. Not to mention what Eddie Royal did to him week 1 on MNF.

Yeah, I didn't really pay much attention to him last year until he was on the skins. I wasn't really commenting on the player he was before he went to the redskins. When they picked him up I was definitely surprised. He was their best CB last year. He's having a decent year this year too. He did a pretty good job last week against Roddy White.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Hall should try to keep on the DL while he's still playing, so no one notices how crappy he is. It's comical that this guy has been able to draw such big money in the NFL this long and have the Raiders, now Redskins fooled into thinking he's worthy of rostering. I think he's one of the worst CB's in the league. He must be a good actor though since he's fooled a few teams.

How many Skins games have you watched? Hall was terrific last season for the Redskins and he's been decent this year. Certainly not one of the worst CB's in the league.

He's getting burnt for tds every time I have seen him. Not to mention what Eddie Royal did to him week 1 on MNF.

Yeah, I didn't really pay much attention to him last year until he was on the skins. I wasn't really commenting on the player he was before he went to the redskins. When they picked him up I was definitely surprised. He was their best CB last year. He's having a decent year this year too. He did a pretty good job last week against Roddy White.

He's definitely the Skins best cover corner this year.The problem is he couldn't tackle Mike Smith's mother. He's put on the worst tackling display this year I've seen since Deion was in the league.

 

[PewterFan]

Mike Smith did the same type of thing to Antonio Bryant last year too. Got in his face and talked smack after Bryant pushed one of his players too hard out of bounce or something like that.

The reason why I think it's a punk move on Smith part is a player isn't likely to defend himself as he would against another player. Sorta like a chick slapping a guy's face at a bar. Not fair because he can't hit her back. Smith needs to put on a pair of pads or stick to his role as coach.

 

[PatrickT]

Mike Smith did the same type of thing to Antonio Bryant last year too. Got in his face and talked smack after Bryant pushed one of his players too hard out of bounce or something like that. The reason why I think it's a punk move on Smith part is a player isn't likely to defend himself as he would against another player. Sorta like a chick slapping a guy's face at a bar. Not fair because he can't hit her back. Smith needs to put on a pair of pads or stick to his role as coach.

Yes, he talked lots of smack like "you don't need be here" and " you need to go back to your sideline". Antonio, of course, was over there for a tea party. Antonio was in the same position as Hall, where he wasn't supposed to be, trying to cause trouble, and Smith put an end to it.

 

[PewterFan]

Mike Smith did the same type of thing to Antonio Bryant last year too. Got in his face and talked smack after Bryant pushed one of his players too hard out of bounce or something like that. The reason why I think it's a punk move on Smith part is a player isn't likely to defend himself as he would against another player. Sorta like a chick slapping a guy's face at a bar. Not fair because he can't hit her back. Smith needs to put on a pair of pads or stick to his role as coach.

Yes, he talked lots of smack like "you don't need be here" and " you need to go back to your sideline". Antonio, of course, was over there for a tea party. Antonio was in the same position as Hall, where he wasn't supposed to be, trying to cause trouble, and Smith put an end to it.

Bryant doesn't like tea.Hall was definitely causing trouble by pushing what's-his-name out of bounce on a late hit. But even so, let the players work it out.Bryant got in the face of a Falcons defender who pushed him towards Atlanta's sidelines after the whistle was blown. Smith then got in his face and started barking his head off. He didn't end it. Bryant did by just walking away. The Falcons defender was probably embarrassed by it.Cable, er, Smith needs to know his role and coach. Let the players fight their own battles.

 

[fatness]

I heard that Mike Smith was eating at a diner. And when some dude dropped a spoon Smith killed the whole town.

 

[PatrickT]

Mike Smith did the same type of thing to Antonio Bryant last year too. Got in his face and talked smack after Bryant pushed one of his players too hard out of bounce or something like that. The reason why I think it's a punk move on Smith part is a player isn't likely to defend himself as he would against another player. Sorta like a chick slapping a guy's face at a bar. Not fair because he can't hit her back. Smith needs to put on a pair of pads or stick to his role as coach.

Yes, he talked lots of smack like "you don't need be here" and " you need to go back to your sideline". Antonio, of course, was over there for a tea party. Antonio was in the same position as Hall, where he wasn't supposed to be, trying to cause trouble, and Smith put an end to it.

Bryant doesn't like tea.Hall was definitely causing trouble by pushing what's-his-name out of bounce on a late hit. But even so, let the players work it out.Bryant got in the face of a Falcons defender who pushed him towards Atlanta's sidelines after the whistle was blown. Smith then got in his face and started barking his head off. He didn't end it. Bryant did by just walking away. The Falcons defender was probably embarrassed by it.Cable, er, Smith needs to know his role and coach. Let the players fight their own battles.

Please. The team, to a man, loves it. Smith also knows that it's better if he gets ejected (or hurt) rather than a player. He can coach from the tunnel, they can't play from it. Nice sales job on Antonio's complete innocence. Oh, and nice try comparing Smith to a suspected woman beater, too. I totally get the comparison between a guy who stands between two fully padded professional athletes to break up a scrap and a guy who smacks a defenseless woman. Well played.

 

[PatrickT]

Adam Shefter tweets. Filed to ESPN: Falcons coach Mike Smith was fined $15,000 -- double Albert Haynesworth's fine -- for his part in Sunday's sideline fracas.

AFAIK, no fine for D Hall, who actually started the whole thing. That's so off-base, it's laughable. Lost a lot of respect for Goodell on this one.

 

[Pickle Rody]

Mike Smith did the same type of thing to Antonio Bryant last year too. Got in his face and talked smack after Bryant pushed one of his players too hard out of bounce or something like that.

The reason why I think it's a punk move on Smith part is a player isn't likely to defend himself as he would against another player. Sorta like a chick slapping a guy's face at a bar. Not fair because he can't hit her back. Smith needs to put on a pair of pads or stick to his role as coach.

Yes, he talked lots of smack like "you don't need be here" and " you need to go back to your sideline". Antonio, of course, was over there for a tea party. Antonio was in the same position as Hall, where he wasn't supposed to be, trying to cause trouble, and Smith put an end to it.

Bryant doesn't like tea.Hall was definitely causing trouble by pushing what's-his-name out of bounce on a late hit. But even so, let the players work it out.

Bryant got in the face of a Falcons defender who pushed him towards Atlanta's sidelines after the whistle was blown. Smith then got in his face and started barking his head off. He didn't end it. Bryant did by just walking away. The Falcons defender was probably embarrassed by it.

Cable, er, Smith needs to know his role and coach. Let the players fight their own battles.

You do know that the phrase is "out of BOUNDS", don't you? As in boundary. Sidelines are part of the boundary of the playing field.

 

[Dexter Manley]

Adam Shefter tweets. Filed to ESPN: Falcons coach Mike Smith was fined $15,000 -- double Albert Haynesworth's fine -- for his part in Sunday's sideline fracas.AFAIK, no fine for D Hall, who actually started the whole thing. That's so off-base, it's laughable. Lost a lot of respect for Goodell on this one.

I'm ok with this. Would of preferred to see Smith suspended a game, but at least the league made it a little clearer that Smith's punkish behavior isn't tolerable.And why would Hall get fined? He didn't do anything wrong. Landry was the one who hit Ryan late out of bounds. If anything, Hall should be commended for keeping his cool and escalating the situation after Smith jacked him.