Redskins receivers (1 Viewer)

[Cripster]

Does anyone see Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly stepping up to start opposite of Moss and push Randal EL to the slot.

 

[T Bell]

Does anyone see Devin Thomas or Malcolm Kelly stepping up to start opposite of Moss and push Randal EL to the slot.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

I like Thomas to emerge this season. He will get the opportunity. I would be on Kelly but his knees still worry me. Imo, the big factor is the development of Campbell. If he can improve and play same or better as the first half of 2008, Santana and Thomas could surprise many. Another year in the Zorn system for all of the receivers (and Campbell) could do wonders.

 

[MAC_32]

I've never been a big Thomas fan, but if Kelly's knees don't allow him to take a spot then Thomas should at least get an opportunity to take the step up. Still, I'd be surprised if he produces greater than WR3-like numbers, my expectations are significantly lower.

My biggest concern is the QB situation, based on leaks throughout the offseason I believe the staff is not sold on Campbell and may be quick with the hook if he doesn't play well early. His replacement? Colt Brennan, I know there are some around here that are behind this kid, but unless Alex Smith wins the San Francisco job I'll likely have Colt ranked 32nd among active starting QB's if he were to be given the ball.

I doubt it will matter who the starting Redskin WR's are if Colt's the QB, they'll all suffer, except Cooley who could be in for a career year in ppr leagues.

 

[Jason Wood]

The simple truth is Randle-El has been one of the worst starting WRs in the league the last few years. He honestly wouldn't, nor shouldn't be starting for most teams. If neither Thomas nor Kelly displace him this year, it's an absolute condemnation of the Redskins use of two high draft picks on those kids. They have all the opportunity in the world here, and have arguably the lowest bar in the league to leap over.

I'm with the others in betting on Thomas a bit more than Kelly. But obviously both are talented kids and, health provided, should be able to overtake Randle-El in the pecking order.

 

[AB in DC]

Both will get the opportunity...we'll see if either of them have made any progress over the offseason. This is a good camp battle to watch.

 

[loose circuits]

Thomas seems to be missing a work ethic

Kelly can't stay healthy

Can Marko Mitchell make an impact? Guy is a great size/speed combo and has some pretty decent college production...

 

[T Bell]

Thomas seems to be missing a work ethic

Kelly can't stay healthy

Can Marko Mitchell make an impact? Guy is a great size/speed combo and has some pretty decent college production...

Thomas has been working out at Redskins Park since the offseason began and has been getting universal praise from the coaching staff for his effort and improvement.

 

[doubletrouble]

both kelly and thomas suck

 

[todisco1]

both kelly and thomas suck

well that settles things.

 

[loose circuits]

Thomas seems to be missing a work ethic

Kelly can't stay healthy

Can Marko Mitchell make an impact? Guy is a great size/speed combo and has some pretty decent college production...

Thomas has been working out at Redskins Park since the offseason began and has been getting universal praise from the coaching staff for his effort and improvement.

i never caught that...i heard he showed up a few days late for the off season program and nursed a hammy injury. i must have bad info because nothing about that smells of praised. I did hear that during the time he did practice, his route running was better

 

[loose circuits]

nice fluff piece on Marko:

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/jun/0...learning-curve/

 

[doubletrouble]

both kelly and thomas suck

well that settles things.

I am glad you agree!

 

[T Bell]

Thomas seems to be missing a work ethic

Kelly can't stay healthy

Can Marko Mitchell make an impact? Guy is a great size/speed combo and has some pretty decent college production...

Thomas has been working out at Redskins Park since the offseason began and has been getting universal praise from the coaching staff for his effort and improvement.

i never caught that...i heard he showed up a few days late for the off season program and nursed a hammy injury. i must have bad info because nothing about that smells of praised. I did hear that during the time he did practice, his route running was better

In fairness, this guy when drafted was a junior who was one year removed from playing JuCo football, and I'm sure that the transition to the NFL was a culture shock for him. To his credit he seems to have gotten serious about preparation and improving his game. We'll see whether it pays off. The Redskins 2008 class of WR's could end up as the top two guys in that draft, or could both end up as the spectacular busts of that draft. It's very hard to read right now.

 

[loose circuits]

Thomas seems to be missing a work ethic

Kelly can't stay healthy

Can Marko Mitchell make an impact? Guy is a great size/speed combo and has some pretty decent college production...

Thomas has been working out at Redskins Park since the offseason began and has been getting universal praise from the coaching staff for his effort and improvement.

i never caught that...i heard he showed up a few days late for the off season program and nursed a hammy injury. i must have bad info because nothing about that smells of praised. I did hear that during the time he did practice, his route running was better

In fairness, this guy when drafted was a junior who was one year removed from playing JuCo football, and I'm sure that the transition to the NFL was a culture shock for him. To his credit he seems to have gotten serious about preparation and improving his game. We'll see whether it pays off. The Redskins 2008 class of WR's could end up as the top two guys in that draft, or could both end up as the spectacular busts of that draft. It's very hard to read right now.

didn't he choose to pursue PROFESSIONAL football a year early? Maybe he can mature but most of the time lazy people revert back to being lazy...I don't have much confidence in Washington's offense. Marko Mitchell (which is why i mentioned him) is the only player I would own at this moment because he comes dirt cheap (5th round 12X35 non-idp dynasty).

Thomas being able to line-up in the right place and run the right route just doesn't impress me all that much when you consider he's missed a month of offseason with a hammy. I don't think anything has changed with these 2 and have 0 confidence. I'd take Bess. Gage, etc.. over them today

 

[T Bell]

Thomas seems to be missing a work ethic

Kelly can't stay healthy

Can Marko Mitchell make an impact? Guy is a great size/speed combo and has some pretty decent college production...

Thomas has been working out at Redskins Park since the offseason began and has been getting universal praise from the coaching staff for his effort and improvement.

i never caught that...i heard he showed up a few days late for the off season program and nursed a hammy injury. i must have bad info because nothing about that smells of praised. I did hear that during the time he did practice, his route running was better

In fairness, this guy when drafted was a junior who was one year removed from playing JuCo football, and I'm sure that the transition to the NFL was a culture shock for him. To his credit he seems to have gotten serious about preparation and improving his game. We'll see whether it pays off. The Redskins 2008 class of WR's could end up as the top two guys in that draft, or could both end up as the spectacular busts of that draft. It's very hard to read right now.

didn't he choose to pursue PROFESSIONAL football a year early? Maybe he can mature but most of the time lazy people revert back to being lazy...I don't have much confidence in Washington's offense. Marko Mitchell (which is why i mentioned him) is the only player I would own at this moment because he comes dirt cheap (5th round 12X35 non-idp dynasty).

Thomas being able to line-up in the right place and run the right route just doesn't impress me all that much when you consider he's missed a month of offseason with a hammy. I don't think anything has changed with these 2 and have 0 confidence. I'd take Bess. Gage, etc.. over them today

Where are you getting this laziness business from?

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Where are you getting this laziness business from?

Was widely reported last year the Redskins were very unhappy with his work ethic.If Kelly's knee is right I think he's the better play by a lot here. If not, the Skins will probably be in the market for a WR again next year. Unless Mitchell turns into a major surprise or something.

 

[loose circuits]

Where are you getting this laziness business from?

Rookie Devin Thomas has not endeared himself to coaches and teammates with his attitude and work ethic. With a swagger that was not backed up by his play, he did not do enough to get himself physically and mentally ready to play, and many in the organization wonder if he ever will. He could be surly, he enjoyed the nightlife and he never made any real strides toward becoming a regular part of the offense. He continually ran poor routes - often three yards or more too deep or too shallow - which is a massive difference in an intricate precision system. He didn't do nearly enough to earn the confidence of the quarterbacks. He was drafted to be the bigger, deep threat to complement Moss on the opposite side, replacing Brandon Lloyd, and ended up being similar to Lloyd in far too many ways. Thomas has already talked about the need to get away from football for a while, which, for as little as he played, is alarming. He needs to work his tail off all offseason to be ready to help this team.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...iew---wide.html

 

[T Bell]

Where are you getting this laziness business from?

Rookie Devin Thomas has not endeared himself to coaches and teammates with his attitude and work ethic. With a swagger that was not backed up by his play, he did not do enough to get himself physically and mentally ready to play, and many in the organization wonder if he ever will. He could be surly, he enjoyed the nightlife and he never made any real strides toward becoming a regular part of the offense. He continually ran poor routes - often three yards or more too deep or too shallow - which is a massive difference in an intricate precision system. He didn't do nearly enough to earn the confidence of the quarterbacks. He was drafted to be the bigger, deep threat to complement Moss on the opposite side, replacing Brandon Lloyd, and ended up being similar to Lloyd in far too many ways. Thomas has already talked about the need to get away from football for a while, which, for as little as he played, is alarming. He needs to work his tail off all offseason to be ready to help this team.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...iew---wide.html

Anything else that would lead you to believe that this was an intractible problem like you were implying before, such that you could diminish his offseason work by saying that he'd just regress back to being lazy?

 

[loose circuits]

Where are you getting this laziness business from?

Rookie Devin Thomas has not endeared himself to coaches and teammates with his attitude and work ethic. With a swagger that was not backed up by his play, he did not do enough to get himself physically and mentally ready to play, and many in the organization wonder if he ever will. He could be surly, he enjoyed the nightlife and he never made any real strides toward becoming a regular part of the offense. He continually ran poor routes - often three yards or more too deep or too shallow - which is a massive difference in an intricate precision system. He didn't do nearly enough to earn the confidence of the quarterbacks. He was drafted to be the bigger, deep threat to complement Moss on the opposite side, replacing Brandon Lloyd, and ended up being similar to Lloyd in far too many ways. Thomas has already talked about the need to get away from football for a while, which, for as little as he played, is alarming. He needs to work his tail off all offseason to be ready to help this team.

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...iew---wide.html

Anything else that would lead you to believe that this was an intractible problem like you were implying before, such that you could diminish his offseason work by saying that he'd just regress back to being lazy?

Is there any reason we should immediately believe that because he learned to run routes and line up in the right place, that he's all of a sudden going to stay out of the clubs and in the film room?also, i'm not sure why you keep praising his off season when he's been nursing a minor hammy injury for the past month

 

[fatness]

Thomas seems to be missing a work ethic

Thomas has been working out at Redskins Park since the offseason began and has been getting universal praise from the coaching staff for his effort and improvement.

i never caught that...i heard he showed up a few days late for the off season program and nursed a hammy injury. i must have bad info because nothing about that smells of praised. I did hear that during the time he did practice, his route running was better

Thomas showed up early for the offseason program. During the program he took a couple days off, with permission. He's been praised by coaches and players for improvement, effort, and attitude.

 

[fatness]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...iew---wide.html

That was posted on January 7, which is before the offseason programs.

 

[MAC_32]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...iew---wide.html

That was posted on January 7, which is before the offseason programs.

What's your point? It's great information. Classic human behavior, tell a guy his work ethic sucks and you'll probably see it change in the near term, the question is will he sustain it? Writing off his potential laziness at this point is a big mistake unless you're a blind Devin Thomas dyno owner and are just trying to make yourself feel better.

 

[thayman]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...iew---wide.html

That was posted on January 7, which is before the offseason programs.

What's your point? It's great information. Classic human behavior, tell a guy his work ethic sucks and you'll probably see it change in the near term, the question is will he sustain it? Writing off his potential laziness at this point is a big mistake unless you're a blind Devin Thomas dyno owner and are just trying to make yourself feel better.

Fatness is one of the best posters on the board for Redskins info. He tends to look at the players with a pretty straight forward unbiased opinion (FF wise). By all recent reports Thomas has stated that he didn't think he worked hard enough last year and wants to work harder this year.

 

[Dinsy Ejotuz]

Fatness is one of the best posters on the board for Redskins info. He tends to look at the players with a pretty straight forward unbiased opinion (FF wise). By all recent reports Thomas has stated that he didn't think he worked hard enough last year and wants to work harder this year.

But human nature is human nature. If you aren't jacked enough to show up and work your ### off as a rookie it's probably just not in you for any long stretch of time. cf. Lendale White

 

[fatness]

http://voices.washingtonpost.com/redskinsi...iew---wide.html

That was posted on January 7, which is before the offseason programs.

What's your point? It's great information. Classic human behavior, tell a guy his work ethic sucks and you'll probably see it change in the near term, the question is will he sustain it? Writing off his potential laziness at this point is a big mistake unless you're a blind Devin Thomas dyno owner and are just trying to make yourself feel better.

My point is that there's more recent information saying that Thomas is working harder this year. People read here for information. They don't care so much what your opinion or mine is; they can make up their own minds if they have information. From Rich Tandler, a longtime Redskin writer, for example.

The best-looking receiver out there was Devin Thomas. He certainly seems to be in excellent shape and he's running sharp routes. It appears that, unlike last year, he "gets it".