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Redskins Release OT Jon Jansen (1 Viewer)
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AnonymousBob
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I know he's been hurt a lot but do they even have anyone to replace him?
Sidewinder16
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Stephon Heyer, Mike Williams and Jeremy Bridges will battle it out for the RT starting spot (Devin Clark may be in that mix, too) during TC.
Sammy Traveller
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bicycle_seat_sniffer
Smells like chicken
Wow does he have anything left? Come play RT for SD. THanks!
Sidewinder16
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If I'm to believe Jim Zorn, I'd say no. Zorn said when he and Sherman Smith (OC) and Joe Bugel (OL coach) evaluated the OL after the recent mini-camps/OTAs that he didn't see any "difference" from Jansen over last year, and last year he was a liability on the OL. You'll hear that he can still run block, but his pass blocking leaves a lot to be desired.
blend
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doubletrouble
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Jon Jansen, recently released by the Redskins, has reportedly agreed to terms with the Lions on a one-year contract.
Jansen, 33, will sign for the veteran minimum if he passes a physical on Monday. The former Michigan Wolverine is expected to compete for the starting right tackle job with last year's first-rounder Gosder Cherilus. Both players struggled last season, but the Lions would obviously prefer if Cherilus earned the starting nod.
Jansen, 33, will sign for the veteran minimum if he passes a physical on Monday. The former Michigan Wolverine is expected to compete for the starting right tackle job with last year's first-rounder Gosder Cherilus. Both players struggled last season, but the Lions would obviously prefer if Cherilus earned the starting nod.
dude is from the Detroit area (he played HS ball in my conference) and is a welcome addition to the Lions. 
T Bell
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Sidewinder16 said:
At this point, when Jansen is healthy he's an average to above average run blocker, and an average to below average pass blocker. And if he's gimpy he's worse than that. I've always loved him as a player, but the writing has been on the wall for him for the last couple of years. Once he started getting hurt in 2004, he just wasn't the same player he had been for the first five years of his career.
King of the Jungle
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Sounds like a good fit for guard not tackle. Either way his experience and leadership cannot hurt a team that lacks in those departments.
TwinTurbo
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If only they would have signed him 10 years ago instead of Aaron Gibson.
Avery
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Therefore it seems kinda odd that the Skins have done so little to address the position since then.Sidewinder16 said:At this point, when Jansen is healthy he's an average to above average run blocker, and an average to below average pass blocker. And if he's gimpy he's worse than that.
I've always loved him as a player, but the writing has been on the wall for him for the last couple of years. Once he started getting hurt in 2004, he just wasn't the same player he had been for the first five years of his career.
King of the Jungle
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Lion's have provided fans with so many good draft memories...
T Bell
Footballguy
You won't get any argument from me on that. I'm one of many Skins fans who have complained for years on this board about the team's neglect of the lines, and their neglect of the D-line is even worse than that of the O-line if you can believe it. I read recently that Vinny Cerrato is of the belief that OL's don't offer high returns on value in the first couple of rounds of the draft, which certainly matches the drafting record in the Cerrato era (the only OL drafted in the first two rounds since 2000, the first Snyderatto draft, was Samuels in 2000). While it's certainly valid to point out that the league has a lot of examples of UDFA and low-round drafted OL's who have ended up starting, the fact is that you can't completely ignore the OL the way that they have and then act shocked when you're stuck with old, gimpy OL's with no young depth to emerge and take over the job.Therefore it seems kinda odd that the Skins have done so little to address the position since then.Sidewinder16 said:At this point, when Jansen is healthy he's an average to above average run blocker, and an average to below average pass blocker. And if he's gimpy he's worse than that.
I've always loved him as a player, but the writing has been on the wall for him for the last couple of years. Once he started getting hurt in 2004, he just wasn't the same player he had been for the first five years of his career.
Kool-Aid Larry
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How's he supposed to get revenge on Washington if he's playing in Detroit?
Avery
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I guess Cerrato is right in that you can get quality OL later in the draft (although the same can be said of many positions) but the key is having a good scouting department to draft and sign those players and good and consistent coaching to get those players ready to take over when the time comes.You won't get any argument from me on that. I'm one of many Skins fans who have complained for years on this board about the team's neglect of the lines, and their neglect of the D-line is even worse than that of the O-line if you can believe it. I read recently that Vinny Cerrato is of the belief that OL's don't offer high returns on value in the first couple of rounds of the draft, which certainly matches the drafting record in the Cerrato era (the only OL drafted in the first two rounds since 2000, the first Snyderatto draft, was Samuels in 2000). While it's certainly valid to point out that the league has a lot of examples of UDFA and low-round drafted OL's who have ended up starting, the fact is that you can't completely ignore the OL the way that they have and then act shocked when you're stuck with old, gimpy OL's with no young depth to emerge and take over the job.Therefore it seems kinda odd that the Skins have done so little to address the position since then.Sidewinder16 said:
I've always loved him as a player, but the writing has been on the wall for him for the last couple of years. Once he started getting hurt in 2004, he just wasn't the same player he had been for the first five years of his career.
fatness
Footballguy
Nasty letters, youtube videos, a blog.
Ozymandias
Footballguy
He only signed with them for one year. Next year, he goes to the Giants. That's the way to get revenge.
trader jake
Footballguy
Always liked Jansen. He was money for years during NFL Draft coverage.
3C's
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Balco
Footballguy
He definitely has a future as an analyst, if he so chooses. Very good speaker, seemed like a natural on tv.
fatness
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T Bell
Footballguy
Ozymandias
Footballguy
By the way, I believe that OL's and QB's have the highest average Wonderlic scores.He definitely has a future as an analyst, if he so chooses. Very good speaker, seemed like a natural on tv.
Lions have a RT entering his 2nd year and could use just tons of OL coaching. As you can see from this thread, he's well liked and respected.I wouldn't be surprised if he's kept as a backup and they're hoping he "rubs off" on the others.
One thing good organizations have is plenty of examples of how to be. The Lions could use some of that.
Avery
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So Dan Snyder made him an "offer" to quit and apparently Jansen didn't want to quit so Snyder fired him.
Ozymandias
Footballguy
Well, that's probably not quite it. He was probably due some good money this year, and so the option was to cut him, or have him retire, probably with a financial sweetener. But he didn't want to retire, so they cut him.
fatness
Footballguy
I don't take it that way.Jansen was the only player on the Redskins who had been there the entire time Snyder has owned the team. Zorn, from what I've read, wanted Jansen cut last year but he wasn't, probably due to Snyder's loyalty to the guy. When Jansen's play didn't seem to be improved at all this year, they finally decided to cut him. Snyder sent his plane to pick up Jansen so he could tell him face-to-face, not over the phone. And the "retire a Redskin" thing was probably just a "if you'd like to retire we'll have a ceremony and stuff at the stadium" offer, which isn't routinely made to players who are cut. Awkward, and probably came across badly to Jansen since he believes he can still play. But Snyder likes Jansen, always has. It was just time for him to go, so he was cut.
T Bell
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For all the flak that Snyder gets (and much of it justified), you can't hammer him on this. He did this the right way.
Wyld Stallyns
Footballguy
Agreed.For all the flak that Snyder gets (and much of it justified), you can't hammer him on this. He did this the right way.
Avery
Footballguy
As for me, I wasn't "hammering" Snyder, I just didn't think that "offering" Jansen the opportunity to quit instead of being cut is so admirable.Maybe it's the right thing to do, but I don't see it as anything particularly commendable.For all the flak that Snyder gets (and much of it justified), you can't hammer him on this. He did this the right way.
fatness
Footballguy
He was getting cut, there's no way around that, and that's a hard blow for a player to accept. I can't see a much better way to handle communicating that to him than what was done. He was shown some respect, which he deserved.As for me, I wasn't "hammering" Snyder, I just didn't think that "offering" Jansen the opportunity to quit instead of being cut is so admirable.Maybe it's the right thing to do, but I don't see it as anything particularly commendable.
T Bell
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Of course. Because it's the Redskins we're talking about.As for me, I wasn't "hammering" Snyder, I just didn't think that "offering" Jansen the opportunity to quit instead of being cut is so admirable.Maybe it's the right thing to do, but I don't see it as anything particularly commendable.For all the flak that Snyder gets (and much of it justified), you can't hammer him on this. He did this the right way.
T Bell
Footballguy
Jansen is a solid dude and will always have my respect, and I agree that he's a team leader, but don't get ahead of yourself about the status of his game right now. And BTW, he was an injury risk as it is, and I have no idea how he's going to hold up for 16 games as a starter (if he starts) on turf. Simply put, against any sort of outside pass rush talent, he needs help to protect the QB anymore.VERY excited to see him signing with my Lions (assuming he passes the physical). I knocked them hard for not going OT in the 1st round, but a move like this brings leadership and bit more steady play on the line.
