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Redskins trying to move Portis? (1 Viewer)
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Daisuke Matsuzaka
Footballguy
Could the Redskins afford the cap hit?
I believe his contract had a $17 million bonus - so about $13 million of that would be left, and they could, I believe, split the contract hit over the next two seasons. Given the Redskin's spending habbits (rumors persist that they will sign free agent London Fletcher), can the Redskins afford a $6.5 million contract hit this and next year?
Assuming my information/math is roughly correct anyway.
I believe his contract had a $17 million bonus - so about $13 million of that would be left, and they could, I believe, split the contract hit over the next two seasons. Given the Redskin's spending habbits (rumors persist that they will sign free agent London Fletcher), can the Redskins afford a $6.5 million contract hit this and next year?
Assuming my information/math is roughly correct anyway.
Finatic
Footballguy
Beat me to it
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
The cap hit would be a big issue, IMO. They don't have much room to work with (relative to many other teams) as it is, and the talk has been going after FA LBs (Fletcher-Baker) and CBs (Clements, Smoot, Bly) when free agency starts. I think they're going to need every penny of cap space they're currently clearing to do what they want/need in FA.It would cost over $8 million to cut Portis. Not sure how closely that's related to the hit that would come if he was traded. I just can't see it happening.
Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Not sure how much either of you follow the 'Skins, but redman is as close to a Redskins "insider" on these boards as it gets. I'm a 'Skins fan (as he is) and I know redman keeps closer tabs on them than I do.You can disagree with what he thinks about their potential personnel moves, but to dismiss him as ignorant of the team's situation and info is ignorant in and of itself.
Finatic
Footballguy
My post was not intended to be dispespectful.He knows his Redskins.I know this same blurb was posted yesterday as well and was just waiting for him to respond.........Beat me to it
Not sure how much either of you follow the 'Skins, but redman is as close to a Redskins "insider" on these boards as it gets. I'm a 'Skins fan (as he is) and I know redman keeps closer tabs on them than I do.You can disagree with what he thinks about their potential personnel moves, but to dismiss him as ignorant of the team's situation and info is ignorant in and of itself.
Al Toon's Mole
Footballguy
If the Skins want to ship Portis to the Gang Green, I'd be overjoyed. But I don't see it, and I don't see him going to NE with Maroney playing as well as he did.
Any chance Shanny gets on board and offers up some draft picks to get Clinton back in Den.?
Any chance Shanny gets on board and offers up some draft picks to get Clinton back in Den.?
Jackal
Footballguy
maybe they want to switch maroney to play wideoutWhat does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
Rovers
Footballguy
Who said the Pats had interest in Portis? So, I don't think Portis being shopped has anything to do with Maroney. The Pats also have P Pass going FA, so they will need another RB in any case if in fact Dillon is gone.The money they threw at Betts did surprise me however. Maybe they will try to do what they did with Coles.... get him to agree to a renegotiated contract that can somehow lessen the cap hit when he's traded? I admit, I aint the sharpest knife in the drawer when it come to cap situations.... can the signing bonus get hidden into later year garanteed money?What does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
Gr00vus
Footballguy
I don't get the Pats angle either. Apart from Maroney already being there, it seems like Portis's contract doesn't really fit into their salary structure scheme. The Pats have a history of not paying top dollar at the non QB skill positions to good effect - why would they change that now?
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
Who said the Pats had interest in Portis? So, I don't think Portis being shopped has anything to do with Maroney. The Pats also have P Pass going FA, so they will need another RB in any case if in fact Dillon is gone.The money they threw at Betts did surprise me however. Maybe they will try to do what they did with Coles.... get him to agree to a renegotiated contract that can somehow lessen the cap hit when he's traded? I admit, I aint the sharpest knife in the drawer when it come to cap situations.... can the signing bonus get hidden into later year garanteed money?What does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?
I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
Rovers
Footballguy
Oh, well if Britt in VA siad so, it must be true.Who said the Pats had interest in Portis? So, I don't think Portis being shopped has anything to do with Maroney. The Pats also have P Pass going FA, so they will need another RB in any case if in fact Dillon is gone.The money they threw at Betts did surprise me however. Maybe they will try to do what they did with Coles.... get him to agree to a renegotiated contract that can somehow lessen the cap hit when he's traded? I admit, I aint the sharpest knife in the drawer when it come to cap situations.... can the signing bonus get hidden into later year garanteed money?What does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?
I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
Al Toon's Mole
Footballguy
If Bitter Bill has any chance to sidetrack a possible trade to the Jets, he will do it. ( I for one did not buy the hug after the playoff game, and know that inside he is still fuming with hatred, especially with the departure of his WR coach to the Gang Green)I only hope it comes out they interfered so the Jets can somehow put in a complaint on them like they did with the Branch negotiations last year. (and yes, I can't stand BB and the Pats, if that wasnt already clear)Who said the Pats had interest in Portis? So, I don't think Portis being shopped has anything to do with Maroney. The Pats also have P Pass going FA, so they will need another RB in any case if in fact Dillon is gone.The money they threw at Betts did surprise me however. Maybe they will try to do what they did with Coles.... get him to agree to a renegotiated contract that can somehow lessen the cap hit when he's traded? I admit, I aint the sharpest knife in the drawer when it come to cap situations.... can the signing bonus get hidden into later year garanteed money?What does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?
I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
You asked a quest, I'm giving you the answer. That's why the Pats came up in this thread. It's in the "original" thread.Oh, well if Britt in VA siad so, it must be true.Who said the Pats had interest in Portis? So, I don't think Portis being shopped has anything to do with Maroney. The Pats also have P Pass going FA, so they will need another RB in any case if in fact Dillon is gone.The money they threw at Betts did surprise me however. Maybe they will try to do what they did with Coles.... get him to agree to a renegotiated contract that can somehow lessen the cap hit when he's traded? I admit, I aint the sharpest knife in the drawer when it come to cap situations.... can the signing bonus get hidden into later year garanteed money?What does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?
I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
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Couch Potato
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Oh, well if Britt in VA siad so, it must be true.Who said the Pats had interest in Portis? So, I don't think Portis being shopped has anything to do with Maroney. The Pats also have P Pass going FA, so they will need another RB in any case if in fact Dillon is gone.The money they threw at Betts did surprise me however. Maybe they will try to do what they did with Coles.... get him to agree to a renegotiated contract that can somehow lessen the cap hit when he's traded? I admit, I aint the sharpest knife in the drawer when it come to cap situations.... can the signing bonus get hidden into later year garanteed money?What does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?
I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
That's what I was thinking.I love the week before free agency though. I just LOVE it! All the rumors, the guys cut/not cut, speculation on who will fill the vacancies. A dynasty leaguers dream. 
Rovers
Footballguy
OK, no problem... it just starts to look like some poster in a blog is behind this, which makes not only the entire Portis rumor less reliable, but any mention of the Pats as pure conjecture on this guy's part. I think this is a pretty bogus thread, with apologies. Unless this "Brit in VA" is some sort of insider, it seems like it may all be conjecture and guesswork by some obscure Redskins fan. If this guy is something more than the average site blogger he appears to be, then I'm wrong.You asked a quest, I'm giving you the answer. That's why the Pats came up in this thread. It's in the "original" thread.Oh, well if Britt in VA siad so, it must be true.Who said the Pats had interest in Portis? So, I don't think Portis being shopped has anything to do with Maroney. The Pats also have P Pass going FA, so they will need another RB in any case if in fact Dillon is gone.The money they threw at Betts did surprise me however. Maybe they will try to do what they did with Coles.... get him to agree to a renegotiated contract that can somehow lessen the cap hit when he's traded? I admit, I aint the sharpest knife in the drawer when it come to cap situations.... can the signing bonus get hidden into later year garanteed money?What does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?
I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
Ron_Mexico
I Love Doggies
The Patriots have an extra pick in the first round,
and the Patriots need to find a replacement for Dillon.
It would not be in their best interest to pin all their RB
hopes on Maroney. I think Portis would be a sweet fit
into the Patriots current scheme.
and the Patriots need to find a replacement for Dillon.
It would not be in their best interest to pin all their RB
hopes on Maroney. I think Portis would be a sweet fit
into the Patriots current scheme.
Rovers,I've known of this a while but didn't feel much like taking the rumor beating around here. Pats(no team for that matter) were never mentioned. You know I couldn't keep my trap shut if this were the Pats that were interested
Pat Patriot
Footballguy
Interfered with what? The Jets signing their WR coach? Portis maybe being traded? The Pats arent discussing a new contract with Portis while he is under contract to someone else which is what the Jets did with Branch prior to the Pats giving permission for Branch to seek a deal.If Bitter Bill has any chance to sidetrack a possible trade to the Jets, he will do it. ( I for one did not buy the hug after the playoff game, and know that inside he is still fuming with hatred, especially with the departure of his WR coach to the Gang Green)I only hope it comes out they interfered so the Jets can somehow put in a complaint on them like they did with the Branch negotiations last year. (and yes, I can't stand BB and the Pats, if that wasnt already clear)Who said the Pats had interest in Portis? So, I don't think Portis being shopped has anything to do with Maroney. The Pats also have P Pass going FA, so they will need another RB in any case if in fact Dillon is gone.The money they threw at Betts did surprise me however. Maybe they will try to do what they did with Coles.... get him to agree to a renegotiated contract that can somehow lessen the cap hit when he's traded? I admit, I aint the sharpest knife in the drawer when it come to cap situations.... can the signing bonus get hidden into later year garanteed money?What does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?
I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
BigTex
Don't mess with Texas
You're certainly entitled to your opinion and there are certainly many other threads to apply too as well.OK, no problem... it just starts to look like some poster in a blog is behind this, which makes not only the entire Portis rumor less reliable, but any mention of the Pats as pure conjecture on this guy's part. I think this is a pretty bogus thread, with apologies. Unless this "Brit in VA" is some sort of insider, it seems like it may all be conjecture and guesswork by some obscure Redskins fan. If this guy is something more than the average site blogger he appears to be, then I'm wrong.You asked a quest, I'm giving you the answer. That's why the Pats came up in this thread. It's in the "original" thread.Oh, well if Britt in VA siad so, it must be true.Who said the Pats had interest in Portis? So, I don't think Portis being shopped has anything to do with Maroney. The Pats also have P Pass going FA, so they will need another RB in any case if in fact Dillon is gone.The money they threw at Betts did surprise me however. Maybe they will try to do what they did with Coles.... get him to agree to a renegotiated contract that can somehow lessen the cap hit when he's traded? I admit, I aint the sharpest knife in the drawer when it come to cap situations.... can the signing bonus get hidden into later year garanteed money?What does New England's interest in acquiring Portis say about Maroney?
I feel Maroney dances too much and needs to learn to just hit the friggin' hole, but bringing in a guy like Portis would send him right back to where he is now... a backup.
Rovers
Footballguy
Just pulling your chain Bri, with no ill intent!Rovers,I've known of this a while but didn't feel much like taking the rumor beating around here. Pats(no team for that matter) were never mentioned. You know I couldn't keep my trap shut if this were the Pats that were interested
I have, or HAD some Jets contacts, but they are as tight as freakin clams this year.... I can't get squat out of them. If they know, they aint tellin. It's been years since I've been so much in the dark as to what they are interested in doing. BTW, I'd put a whole lot more credibilty in a rumor you had than some unknown guy named Britt in VA that I've never heard of before.
Al Toon's Mole
Footballguy
Thank you, point made. No wonder, the people of Beantown Have S*** for Brains.Pat Patriot said:
Daisuke Matsuzaka
Footballguy
What city are you from? Clearly it's overflowing with class and smarts.Thank you, point made. No wonder, the people of Beantown Have S*** for Brains.Pat Patriot said:If this happened how come the Jets weren't fined? Oh yeah - since it didn't happen. Gotta love Pats fans.
fatness
Footballguy
Couch Potato
Footballguy
He loves me.fatness said:
MU Seminole
Footballguy
Slight tangent - FSU RB Lorenzo Booker said NE is all over him. This Portis speculation makes two wisps of smoke regarding a RB to be added to the NE backfield, JFWIW.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
makes sense to me. i've been saying since the end of the season that portis wouldn't be featured, and i think most people agreed on that.
interested to see where he goes
interested to see where he goes
The whole population of a city?...umm yeah there's a reasonable level headed statement
You can google this to verify if you'd like.The Pats had enough to substantiate filing a complaint. Goodell turned it down, so obviously it wasn't enough that the Jets were guilty of tamperring. Something was definitely up though. Goodell didn't come down on the Pats at all and you'd have to think filing a false tamperring charge would get him upset.
Mangini has no right to contact Patriots. The "word" seems to be that Mangini had friends with the Pats and BB+Pioli+Kraft etc didn't like him calling his friends. Some player relayed a comment Mangini made(that he shouldn't have) in their conversation and it snowballed.
Parcells regularly spoke with Curtis Martin and Bledsoe and some other former players. He's done that for years. At first people didn't approve but got used to it. I imagine the same will happen with Mangini.
The NFL's rules about opposing teams contacting players don't really allow for simple friendships. They don't forbid it but it's a pretty grey area.
Titus Pullo
Footballguy
I'll wait to hear from AJ Smith before believing any side on this one. I'm sure he has a source in Washington, and probably the White House too.
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Sidewinder16
Footballguy
Nigel Tufnel
Footballguy
Yeah, I'm not sure that guy actually read the thread.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
nope. but imo it wouldn't be unreasonable for either betts or portis to be traded.Yeah, I'm not sure that guy actually read the thread.
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shamrock84
Footballguy
Al Toon's Mole
Footballguy
Thanks for proving my point Workhorse!And not the the whole population of BOSTON, just Beantown...whose residents are much like yourself.
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Bankerguy
Footballguy
Redman knows his stuff. He's good people too...other than the Redskins thing.
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