Reggie Bush as your #2 RB Week 1? (1 Viewer)

[Eagles09]

Ok reason i am asking is because most mock drafts i have seen (redrafts) i've seen reggie taken around the 3rd and 4th.... So that makes me thing a large portion of people may be planning on using him as a #2 RB to start the season...

Let's say the league you are playing in has PPR, would it be a strech if you drafted Bush early enough to be your #2 RB?

You have to think of a few things i guess.....

- Rookie RB......

- Not a type of RB who will carry the ball 20-25 times a game

- DEUCEEEEEEEEEEEE (i mean, what if he starts off strong this season? could Bush be limited in his 1st season of work?)

- Tough Tough Division (Tampa twice, Carolina twice, Atlanta twice)

So all these factors and more make me questions when i look at some of this mock drafts if Bush could/would be a solid #2 RB on most teams this season?

Discuss....

 

[BigTex]

Ok reason i am asking is because most mock drafts i have seen (redrafts) i've seen reggie taken around the 3rd and 4th.... So that makes me thing a large portion of people may be planning on using him as a #2 RB to start the season...

Let's say the league you are playing in has PPR, would it be a strech if you drafted Bush early enough to be your #2 RB?

You have to think of a few things i guess.....

- Rookie RB......

- Not a type of RB who will carry the ball 20-25 times a game

- DEUCEEEEEEEEEEEE (i mean, what if he starts off strong this season? could Bush be limited in his 1st season of work?)

- Tough Tough Division (Tampa twice, Carolina twice, Atlanta twice)

So all these factors and more make me questions when i look at some of this mock drafts if Bush could/would be a solid #2 RB on most teams this season?

Discuss....

This is why this question will be better answered after/during the preseason.

 

[thayman]

Since they are playing CLE week 1, and I see Deuce getting more work as the season progresses (unless he looks real strong in pre-season). Bush could have a huge NFL debut.

 

[-OZ-]

Depends. He isn't worth drafting in the 2nd round, but if I could draft a stud RB in the first, Gates in the 2nd, a top WR in the 3rd, and then maybe Bush in the 4th, I'd be alright with it.

Portis, Bush, Hines Ward, Gates would be a group I'd go into the season with.

 

[BusMan]

I agree. If he goes before the 4th, hes not going to my team. But right around the 4th or 5th he slots well into a team. Definitely a better season opener start than Tatum Bell or Addai.

 

[bicycle_seat_sniffer]

Really depends on the holdout length.

 

[Eagles09]

I agree.  If he goes before the 4th, hes not going to my team.  But right around the 4th or 5th he slots well into a team.  Definitely a better season opener start than Tatum Bell or Addai.

I agree.....but i'm not talking about week 1....i'm going by the season in whole.....i guess i should have worded it better..I also agree with the above posts that he should go in the 4th and 5th round... i wouldn't mind going putting out a roster in the 1st four rounds of something like

Lamont Jordan

Chad Johnson

Antonio Gates

Reggie Bush

 

[Eagles09]

The vote is really interesting right now......if anyone cares to explain the reason they voted they way they did i would be interested in reading

 

[thayman]

The vote is really interesting right now......if anyone cares to explain the reason they voted they way they did i would be interested in reading

Yes. Worst case scenario I think he will be a decent #2 FF RB. Of course depends on who else you have at RB, I have LT2, so yeah I'd be bretty confident starting Bush as my #2 guy.I am however much more comfortable drafting and starting him in a dynasty/keeper league as opposed to a redraft.

 

[pantherclub]

IMO you are borderline insane if you target him as your RB 2. I just dont see him producing week in and week out in FF. That said if he was around in the 5-6 then you would have to think but somebody is going to draft him late 2 or earlier 3rd. There is always "that guy". Dont be "that guy".

 

[Eagles09]

IMO you are borderline insane if you target him as your RB 2. I just dont see him producing week in and week out in FF. That said if he was around in the 5-6 then you would have to think but somebody is going to draft him late 2 or earlier 3rd. There is always "that guy". Dont be "that guy".

Would you still agree with the statment you made if your #1 RB is Tomlinson that the post above says?borderline insane may be a reach by the vote were getting so far.....

 

[thayman]

IMO you are borderline insane if you target him as your RB 2. I just dont see him producing week in and week out in FF. That said if he was around in the 5-6 then you would have to think but somebody is going to draft him late 2 or earlier 3rd. There is always "that guy". Dont be "that guy".

You talking redraft? or dynasty/keeper league? Worst case I feel he will be a decent #2 starting RB. On par with guys like Warrick Dunn.

 

[pantherclub]

talking redraft. Even if i had LT i would feel much more comfortable with a Thomas Jones, Warrick Dunn type # 2 then bush. THose guys should be there at the end of the 2nd start of the 3rd. As i said someone will draft bush in that area. IMO he is not going to produce week in and week out. Having said that, he probably will win a game or two by himself with like 100yd recieving 80 yds rushing and 2 tds. I dont see him rushing for 100yds much.

 

[thayman]

talking redraft. Even if i had LT i would feel much more comfortable with a Thomas Jones, Warrick Dunn type # 2 then bush. THose guys should be there at the end of the 2nd start of the 3rd. As i said someone will draft bush in that area. IMO he is not going to produce week in and week out. Having said that, he probably will win a game or two by himself with like 100yd recieving 80 yds rushing and 2 tds. I dont see him rushing for 100yds much.

Redraft is a bit more sketchy. I tend to stay away from pretty much all rookies in a redraft league. That said, I'd be ok with Bush as my #2 guy, I wouldn't go after him in a redraft until probably the 5th round. You are correct though, I do see someone taking him entirely too early.

 

[pantherclub]

talking redraft.  Even if i had LT i would feel much more comfortable with a Thomas Jones, Warrick Dunn type # 2 then bush.  THose guys should be there at the end of the 2nd start of the 3rd.  As i said someone will draft bush in that area.  IMO he is not going to produce week in and week out.  Having said that, he probably will win a game or two by himself with like 100yd recieving 80 yds rushing and 2 tds.  I dont see him rushing for 100yds much.

Redraft is a bit more sketchy. I tend to stay away from pretty much all rookies in a redraft league. That said, I'd be ok with Bush as my #2 guy, I wouldn't go after him in a redraft until probably the 5th round. You are correct though, I do see someone taking him entirely too early.

thats my point, like i said somebody will get some crazy Bush love and target him at the end of the 2nd or beginning of the 3rd. If he falls to 5th (which he wont) then he is a steal as your RB 3. In every league i have ever played in somebody buys into the hype of a player(s) and drafts them insanely early. I have seen Mike Vick go #3 a couple years back. Stupid stuff. Dont try and be a hero at your draft, stick to your gameplan.

 

[Cenobite]

Solely because it is a PPR I would be comfortable with R. Bush as my RB2. My thinking is he will be targeted at least 7x a game, catch 4-5, and average 45 yeards receivng. That's 72 rec. and 720 yds for the year. Add in 750 yards rushing and about 7 TDs combined and that's a good # 2 RB. In fact, those numbers are better than Caddy's last year. I think R. Bush will exceed my projection if Deuce does not come back strong from his injury. I'm thinking Bush will be M. Westbrook-lite this year.

 

[H.K.]

Last year in 12 team PPR leagues the #24 RB was Tatum Bell with 167.5 points, in 2004 Emmitt Smith was #24 with 170 points.

As a barometer, these numbers would give Bush 175 FF points in PPR:

150 rushes for 600 yards

45 recepts for 400 yards

5 TD's

If you think Bush can achieve or surpass those stats, then you shouldn't have an issue with him being your RB2.

 

[slayer666]

Really depends on the holdout length.

Bingn todays date the answer would be "no" because he isn't signed yet. If he signed I could be OK with him as a RB2 in a PPR league if I had a very strong RB1. If he misses a large portion of camp then I won't touch him period in a re-draft.

 

[jurb26]

How about the option of waiting till preseason to see?

 

[Cenobite]

Really depends on the holdout length.

Bingn todays date the answer would be "no" because he isn't signed yet. If he signed I could be OK with him as a RB2 in a PPR league if I had a very strong RB1. If he misses a large portion of camp then I won't touch him period in a re-draft.

All indications are that he will sign right before training camp. For purposes of this topic discussion, I think we are all assuming that any hold out will not have that much of an impact. Also, if we are to project players based solely on their current situations then C. Palmer, C-Pepp, and D. Brees would not be ranked since they are unable to start.

 

[MLBrandow]

you know... I voted no, but then I'm thinking the question needs some more debate....

I think Reggie Bush would be a very solid flex position player.

As a starting RB, I think he's marginal at best.

So, as an RB2 I would not start him at all, as there are far better option.... at least it seems that way (anyone have any empirical analysis or some average predictions for RBs this seasons etc?)

I think he's got definite worth for if persay Deuce goes down, but on 10-15 touches a game, I don't see him as being worth more than a WR2 at best, which to me equates to a very marginal start at RB2.

Playing in the NFC South does NOT help either.

 

[FUBAR]

IMO you are borderline insane if you target him as your RB 2. I just dont see him producing week in and week out in FF. That said if he was around in the 5-6 then you would have to think but somebody is going to draft him late 2 or earlier 3rd. There is always "that guy". Dont be "that guy".

Don't reach, but take value. I'm a fan of waiting on RBs. I''ve always been able to draft a late round RB who shines (Thomas Jones and Larry Johnson last year) or picking one off of waivers. So I take stud QBs, WRs, and TEs. As such, I'll gladly take Reggie Bush as my #2 RB.

 

[Gold Plated Nails]

The answer to your Question is OF COURSE YOU WOULD START HIM.

I am assuming you are talking about redraft leagues with competitive owners. That means you would have had to have spent at minimum a late 3rd rd pick to get him, possibly earlier.

I am not advocating which round is best to draft Bush, but I am saying if he is on your team, you spent a very early pick on him, so you will start him as you likely have no other better candidates.

 

[MLBrandow]

The answer to your Question is OF COURSE YOU WOULD START HIM.

I am assuming you are talking about redraft leagues with competitive owners. That means you would have had to have spent at minimum a late 3rd rd pick to get him, possibly earlier.

I am not advocating which round is best to draft Bush, but I am saying if he is on your team, you spent a very early pick on him, so you will start him as you likely have no other better candidates.

Although that's a bit out of the box and around his question.... I think in light of this perspective... the clear answer would be "yes". Why does that remind me of a certain former Saint who always loved to ruin my fantasy year by my not being able to bench him.... Oh yeah, Aaron "Studley" Brooks

 

[The Man Who Met Andy Griffith]

I don't really understand the question.

If I had LT, LJ and Reggie, I wouldn't start him as my #2 RB.

If I had Onterrio Smith, Ricky Williams and Reggie, I would start him as my #1 RB.

My guess is that Reggie will finish the season in the 13-24 range in PPR, if that helps.

If he is as good as advertised, I don't think he'll have too much trouble getting a good number of carries vs. a very good (but injured) Deuce McAllister.

FWIW, the last two RB's touted to have electrifying moves a la Reggie (Barry & Marshall), each finished their rookie seasons as RB4.

 

[MLBrandow]

FWIW, the last two RB's touted to have electrifying moves a la Reggie (Barry & Marshall), each finished their rookie seasons as RB4.

1989 det | 15 | 280 1470 5.2 14TD | 24 282 11.8 0 1994 Colts 16 314 1282 4.1 11TD 52 522 10.0 1

Are you meaning 4th overall? or 4th on the depth chart on your team?

Those numbers make either seem hard to believe....

FMI, did you find those fantasy ranks somewhere? And Where can I get them

 

[diesel7982]

FWIW, the last two RB's touted to have electrifying moves a la Reggie (Barry & Marshall), each finished their rookie seasons as RB4.

1989 det | 15 | 280 1470 5.2 14TD | 24 282 11.8 0 1994 Colts 16 314 1282 4.1 11TD 52 522 10.0 1

Are you meaning 4th overall? or 4th on the depth chart on your team?

Those numbers make either seem hard to believe....

FMI, did you find those fantasy ranks somewhere? And Where can I get them

Pro-football-reference.com?

 

[slayer666]

All indications are that he will sign right before training camp. For purposes of this topic discussion, I think we are all assuming that any hold out will not have that much of an impact.  Also, if we are to project players based solely on their current situations then C. Palmer, C-Pepp, and D. Brees would not be ranked since they are unable to start.

Last season 23 of 32 first-round selections missed at least one day of camp practice because of contract issues. The last I heard Reggie Bush wants 1.01 money even though he was selected 1.02. Indications mean nothing in contract negotiations. Good point on Carson Palmer and Daunte Culpepper... two more players that I am avoiding due to their current status. I don't understand everyone having Carson Palmer ranked so high. Last season there were 10 quarterbacks who were within 3.6 points of Palmer on a weekly basis. Why burn a 5th round draft choice on an injury risk, when you can get a healthy player at close to the same value 3 rounds later?Sorry, not trying to hijack the thread. Back to the Reggie Bush discussion.

 

[Spike]

Since you're talking about if the season started today (or was it next week?), I would NOT start him for the simple reason he's not signed.

 

[shadyridr]

Hes a low end #2. And I have him ranked ahead of Deuce

 

[SSOG]

Ok reason i am asking is because most mock drafts i have seen (redrafts) i've seen reggie taken around the 3rd and 4th.... So that makes me thing a large portion of people may be planning on using him as a #2 RB to start the season...

Let's say the league you are playing in has PPR, would it be a strech if you drafted Bush early enough to be your #2 RB?

You have to think of a few things i guess.....

- Rookie RB......

- Not a type of RB who will carry the ball 20-25 times a game

- DEUCEEEEEEEEEEEE (i mean, what if he starts off strong this season? could Bush be limited in his 1st season of work?)

- Tough Tough Division (Tampa twice, Carolina twice, Atlanta twice)

So all these factors and more make me questions when i look at some of this mock drafts if Bush could/would be a solid #2 RB on most teams this season?

Discuss....

Tampa and Carolina are both tough, but Atlanta's run defense is a joke, worst in the league last year. Having Hartwell back will help, but they still aren't exactly a very stout unit.

 

[Bob_Magaw]

Last year in 12 team PPR leagues the #24 RB was Tatum Bell with 167.5 points, in 2004 Emmitt Smith was #24 with 170 points.

As a barometer, these numbers would give Bush 175 FF points in PPR:

150 rushes for 600 yards

45 recepts for 400 yards

5 TD's

If you think Bush can achieve or surpass those stats, then you shouldn't have an issue with him being your RB2.

good post... i think this is conservative...before bush even takes his first NFL snap, he is ALREADY one of the top receiving RBs in the NFL... if you have seen the film, no doubt he is faulk & westbrook-LIKE in his ability to split out, run routes & seperate like WR, as well as WR-like ability to catch away from the body, high point the ball, have soft hands & not fight ball...

45 receptions if he plays 16 games (didn't miss a game in three seasons at USC (i think)... OH YEAH!

i think a lot of fantasy ballers still haven't wrapped their minds around the concept of bush & deuce success not necessarily being mutually exclusive... if they were both full time RBs, it would be like a zero sum game... more yards & TDs deuce gets less bush gets... but bush will likely be used split out A LOT! as much like an extra WR as a RB at times in the game.

its hard to guess what kind of rushing yards & TDs bush will have, without knowing what kind of rotation he will be in with deuce, how often they will be on the field together... i'm thinking since he is probably ALREADY their most dynamic & talented player (& RB is a position that historically, if you are a good one, it isn't unusual to step in & play at high level right away, a position where instincts are very important & therefore college skill set can translate very effectively to pros), he will see the field a lot, & shouldn't have a problem getting 4+ receptions per game, which should be good for 60+ receptions with upside...

* if they want to, they could get him the ball a RIDICULOUS number of times just in receptions... if so he might have more receptions than many WRs... it almost won't matter how many rushing yards & TDs he gets... if he gets 70-80 receptions it will be hard for him to not be ROY...

for PPR league purposes, RBs that catch a lot are gold... almost like two players... a RB & WR in one...

 

[Dancing Bear]

There is no chance that I would start Reggie Bush as my RB #2 in Week #1.

In fact at this point I am only considering him for my Dynasty League activities; I believe that there is at least a 50% chance that he sits this year at home without a contract.

Even if he gets hit by a 4"x4" and comes to his senses and signs a reasonable contract, there is no way that he gets the 13 offensive touches a game that H.K. is projecting as a backup. He is no longer playing on USC against the PAC 10. He will see between 5 - 8 offensive touches a game and that will be all ...

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I'll be shocked if Reggie doesn't have 60+ catches this season, so yes, i wouldn't mind starting him as my #2 RB in a PPR league.

 

[Bob_Magaw]

quite a few scouts have called bush one of the best collegiate players ever & one of best RB prospects in NFL history... i think some people may be shortchanging his touches a little bit, & underestimating him if they think he is going to get less than 10 touches a game...

* saints had enough other needs elsewhere on roster that it seems to me unlikely they drafted bush as a luxury RB to use 5 X a game...

i'm not saying he will get more carries than deuce, but between receptions his touches imo will be more like 15+ than 5...

maybe they got him as heir apparent to deuce & he just sits a lot this year... but why WOULDN'T you use a weapon like that a lot if you had one?

 

[gang-wars]

Taking Bush in redraft is a gamble, and way too costly. He could have a staley type year where Deuce gets all the TDs. Duece could get 10-12 TDs, and Bush 3-5 TDs. That wouldn't be a huge shock. Couple that with 40 catches, 800 total yards. That would be a fairly decent year.

The upside is great, but the cost sucks.

 

[Dancing Bear]

Tout Bush all you want. He cannot score you any points either sitting at home or sitting on the bench.

A) Bell was only worthy as an RB #2 in 4 games out of 16. The rest he was pretty much a no show. That's 12 games with 8 or less points! Chances are if you were relying on Bell you did not make the Playoffs.

B) In Bush's situation, he has let's see:

i) A new Coach in New Orleans

ii) A new Offensive System in New Orleans

iii) A new QB in i) and ii)

iv) His own transition in the NFL.

In order to have 13 productive touches like you are stating Bush would actually need between 15 - 18 attempts/ targets. There is no way that a backup RB in the NFL get's that many looks!

 

[jurb26]

In order to have 13 productive touches like you are stating Bush would actually need between 15 - 18 attempts/ targets. There is no way that a backup RB in the NFL get's that many looks!

Bush will not be a backup. RBBC possibly, but backup no.

 

[Dancing Bear]

I think you might be splitting hairs jurb26.

McAllister will get 20 - 22 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

Bush will get 3 - 5 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

If that is RBBC then it's RBBC. I would say that it is being a backup ...

To me RBBC means a Anderson/ Bell like situation, similar to what they did in Denver last year where there was only 3 attempts difference between them per game. Anderson ended up with 16 attempts per game and Bell ended up with 13 attempts per game.

I just don't see it ...

 

[ILUVBEER99]

I think you might be splitting hairs jurb26.

McAllister will get 20 - 22 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

Bush will get 3 - 5 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

If that is RBBC then it's RBBC. I would say that it is being a backup ...

To me RBBC means a Anderson/ Bell like situation, similar to what they did in Denver last year where there was only 3 attempts difference between them per game. Anderson ended up with 16 attempts per game and Bell ended up with 13 attempts per game.

I just don't see it ...

I think your severly underestimating the impact Reggie Bush is going to have this year. As long as he gets signed there is almost no way he will get less than 10 touches a game.He is the most highly touted RB to come into the league in a long long time, more than Tomlinson/Edge/Ricky were. He is WAY too good to only get the 5-8 touches you have him projected to get.

 

[Bri]

Eagles I think the PPR was the key part of your thread as he can play WR. Well supposedly he can, ya never know going from college to NFL but I figure so. That has to force the Saints to at least throw to him even if it's a healthy dose of Deuce.

BTW I wouldn't be surprised if Deuce gets alot of work week 1 to massage his ego.

 

[BINGBING]

I think you might be splitting hairs jurb26.

McAllister will get 20 - 22 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

Bush will get 3 - 5 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

If that is RBBC then it's RBBC. I would say that it is being a backup ...

To me RBBC means a Anderson/ Bell like situation, similar to what they did in Denver last year where there was only 3 attempts difference between them per game. Anderson ended up with 16 attempts per game and Bell ended up with 13 attempts per game.

I just don't see it ...

So they drafted Bush #2 overall and he's going to get 3-5 carries per game....okay....

 

[FreeBaGeL]

I think you might be splitting hairs jurb26.

McAllister will get 20 - 22 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

Bush will get 3 - 5 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

If that is RBBC then it's RBBC. I would say that it is being a backup ...

To me RBBC means a Anderson/ Bell like situation, similar to what they did in Denver last year where there was only 3 attempts difference between them per game. Anderson ended up with 16 attempts per game and Bell ended up with 13 attempts per game.

I just don't see it ...

I think most believe this will end up an Anderson/Bell like situation, much moreso than the situation you're describing. You're projecting McAllister, a back who has struggled with the full load his last few years, to get 320-350 carries a year after his ACL injury. Even venerable workhorse backs Edgerrin James and Jamal Lewis didn't have that many carries coming off their ACL injury even with no other RBs on their team to take away touches. So why is McAllister, who has had much less success handling the full load than either of those two, going to get MORE carries on a less run oriented team with an infinitely more talented (to be clear, I'm saying infinitely more talented then the backups Balty/Indy had...not infinitely more talented than McAllister) partner at RB?As you mentioned, N.O. has a new coach, a new system, and a new quarterback....all of which have no loyalties to McAllister. We've got a new regime coming in with one of the top RB prospects in a decade and a returning RB coming off an ACL injury that we've seen make goliath RBs look simply mediocre their first year back. To think that Bush is going to be relegated to 5 touches a game is fairly foolish at this point.

 

[cstu]

I think you might be splitting hairs jurb26.

McAllister will get 20 - 22 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

Bush will get 3 - 5 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

If that is RBBC then it's RBBC. I would say that it is being a backup ...

To me RBBC means a Anderson/ Bell like situation, similar to what they did in Denver last year where there was only 3 attempts difference between them per game. Anderson ended up with 16 attempts per game and Bell ended up with 13 attempts per game.

I just don't see it ...

So they drafted Bush #2 overall and he's going to get 3-5 carries per game....okay....

Did you miss Benson's season last year? That's about all he got except for a few games where the Bears ran the ball 30+ times. Bush won't carry the ball a lot as long as Deuce is healthy and will get the most action receiving, maybe 4 receptions a game.

 

[softball]

Eagles I think the PPR was the key part of your thread as he can play WR. Well supposedly he can, ya never know going from college to NFL but I figure so. That has to force the Saints to at least throw to him even if it's a healthy dose of Deuce.

BTW I wouldn't be surprised if Deuce gets alot of work week 1 to massage his ego.

Bush as you're #2 even in a PPR is questionable drafting at best.It's very suprising where he's been going in Satellite Drafts so far. 3rd Round, ahead of guys like Droughns and even Chester Taylor.....

I quoted BRI because I agree w/ his post... and want to add, that his value is in a PPR, and he is likely to (IMHO) take away the value Zach Hilton was going to have.....

 

[Bob_Magaw]

I think you might be splitting hairs jurb26.

McAllister will get 20 - 22 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

Bush will get 3 - 5 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

If that is RBBC then it's RBBC.  I would say that it is being a backup ...

To me RBBC means a Anderson/ Bell like situation, similar to what they did in Denver last year where there was only 3 attempts difference between them per game.  Anderson ended up with 16 attempts per game and Bell ended up with 13 attempts per game.

I just don't see it ...

So they drafted Bush #2 overall and he's going to get 3-5 carries per game....okay....

Did you miss Benson's season last year? That's about all he got except for a few games where the Bears ran the ball 30+ times. Bush won't carry the ball a lot as long as Deuce is healthy and will get the most action receiving, maybe 4 receptions a game.

scouts never called benson one of the best collegiate players & NFL RB prospects ever...and he definitely has never been confused with faulk & westbrook for his WR-like receiving abilities...

that is the key piece of the puzzle that i think a lot of people are missing here... even if he doesn't get a ton of carries, per se, he could make up for it with a vengeance with his receptions, ie - TOUCHES...

to grossly simplify... lets say he puts up .5 rushing stats of the #24 RB (say about #50 RB)... & .75 receiving stats of a top 36 WR (about #50 WR)... in some PPR scoring systems, that would be good for about #15 RB...

* for reference (in a PPR league i'm in)

#50 RB - aaron stecker

95 - 363 rushing, 35 - 281 receiving, 0 TDs (combined)

#50 WR - marty booker

39 - 686, 3 TDs

so combining these two, problematic in that while booker has pretty much all receiving stats, stecker doesn't have just rushing stats... summing receiving yards, probably unlikely he approaches 900 receiving yards... but more than 3 TDs is doable... as is 65-70 receptions (close to combined receptions here)... & the 363 rushing yards of stecker (little more then 20 yards per game?) is eminently doable...

 

[Bri]

I think you might be splitting hairs jurb26.

McAllister will get 20 - 22 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

Bush will get 3 - 5 Rushing attempts a game and 3 - 5 Passing attempts a game.

If that is RBBC then it's RBBC.  I would say that it is being a backup ...

To me RBBC means a Anderson/ Bell like situation, similar to what they did in Denver last year where there was only 3 attempts difference between them per game.  Anderson ended up with 16 attempts per game and Bell ended up with 13 attempts per game.

I just don't see it ...

So they drafted Bush #2 overall and he's going to get 3-5 carries per game....okay....

Did you miss Benson's season last year? That's about all he got except for a few games where the Bears ran the ball 30+ times. Bush won't carry the ball a lot as long as Deuce is healthy and will get the most action receiving, maybe 4 receptions a game.

scouts never called benson one of the best collegiate players & NFL RB prospects ever...and he definitely has never been confused with faulk & westbrook for his WR-like receiving abilities...

that is the key piece of the puzzle that i think a lot of people are missing here... even if he doesn't get a ton of carries, per se, he could make up for it with a vengeance withn his receptions, ie - TOUCHES...

to grossly simplify... lets say he puts up .5 rushing stats of the #24 RB (say about #50 RB)... & .75 receiving stats of a top 36 WR (about #50 WR)... in some PPR scoring systems, that would be good for about #15 RB...

 

[cscmtp]

I will be starting Bush in 3 leagues (all dynasty i might add) come week 1. The pt per reception is the key. And i also have SERIOUS doubts McAllister is going to carry the ball 25-30 times his first week back after major surgery. He looked pretty average the last 2 years with all these injuries. So why wouldn't the Saints give the top rated RB prospect the last 20 years a chance out of the gate? I'm pretty sure he'll get TONS of touches until he proves he can't be successful at this level. The Saints WILL give him every opportunity to be the face and name of that city.

 

[Dancing Bear]

A few quick questions for those of you pimping Reggie Bush ...

Which of the two had a higher Yards per Rush average?

Which of the two had a higher Yards per Reception average?

Do you know how closely LenDale White compared to Reggie Bush over the two year span that they played together at USC from a Fantasy Points perspective? If so, then by how far apart were they with standard Offensive performance scoring?

If you have claimed that you would start Reggie Bush in Week #01, then would you also start LenDale White?

If not, then please explain why not?

 

[Pipes]

What makes people think Deuce is going to be healthy going into the season? I thought ACL tears typically have a 2 year recovery period. Bush is going to get a minimum of 10-12 touches a game probably more. He's the most dynamic RB to come out of college since Marshall Faulk...no way does he not get the ball and get the ball often.