Reggie Bush in week 14 (1 Viewer)

[Burgendy]

I was unable to watch Reggie's return this last Sunday. Looking at the numbers and the game write-ups it looked like a pretty poor performance, but then again, NO as a team did not do so great. So for those that did watch him, how did he look? Was he making the cuts? And more importantly, what do you think for this week at home vs. ATL? Any status updates on his knee are much appreciated.

 

[Captain Spaulding]

I was unable to watch Reggie's return this last Sunday. Looking at the numbers and the game write-ups it looked like a pretty poor performance, but then again, NO as a team did not do so great. So for those that did watch him, how did he look? Was he making the cuts? And more importantly, what do you think for this week at home vs. ATL? Any status updates on his knee are much appreciated.

I can't comment on Reggie's current status..but even if he is 100%, even at "stud status" he was fairly inconsistent fantasy player especially in TD's and with rushing yards. Combo yardage or PPR scoring he was more of a weekly stable player.

 

[MCguidance]

I was unable to watch Reggie's return this last Sunday. Looking at the numbers and the game write-ups it looked like a pretty poor performance, but then again, NO as a team did not do so great. So for those that did watch him, how did he look? Was he making the cuts? And more importantly, what do you think for this week at home vs. ATL? Any status updates on his knee are much appreciated.

I can't comment on Reggie's current status..but even if he is 100%, even at "stud status" he was fairly inconsistent fantasy player especially in TD's and with rushing yards. Combo yardage or PPR scoring he was more of a weekly stable player.

He was much more than a stable player in my standard PPR league. Before his injury he was easy top 10. In fact, his fantasy points per game are 5th among RBs in my league.

 

[Alex96]

I was unable to watch Reggie's return this last Sunday. Looking at the numbers and the game write-ups it looked like a pretty poor performance, but then again, NO as a team did not do so great. So for those that did watch him, how did he look? Was he making the cuts? And more importantly, what do you think for this week at home vs. ATL? Any status updates on his knee are much appreciated.

He seemed to be running fine in open space. He's not going to get much in the rushing game, because he has such poor vision behind the line. So, that was still there.The issue this week was that he dropped a couple of soft passes right to his hands. This seemed to lead to his benching on offense in the second half. He still returned punts, but for 4 or 5 consecutive series, he didn't see a single snap. He was on the field for the start of the very last NO drive of the game. But, that drive only lasted for one play (interception).The offense was better off when Bush was not in the game, because of his rushing issues and drops. So, it was the right coaching decision. However, as an owner, it doesn't leave me extremely comfortable going into the playoffs. I'm not as worried about his health as I am that the team seems comfortable with him on the bench. Hopefully, they just saw that as Reggie being rusty and that won't happen going forward.

 

[drew726]

he went 5 receptions for 32 yards this weekend. It's pretty bad for standard leagues but in PPR it was 8 points. If you had a RB who ran 80 yards and didn't score a touchdown he'd score the same. So his bad games in non-PPR leagues are very ugly, but in PPR leagues, it's not so bad.

 

[Burgendy]

Reggie's status as stud depends on league scoring. He's still top five in my big play scoring league, even after missing 5 weeks. If he looked good in open space and is returning punts/kickoffs that sounds like good news to me. Anybody else agree with Alex96's comments?

 

[steelerfan1]

Anybody else agree with Alex96's comments?

i would say that pierre thomas does everything reggie does plus is a better runner. they had reggie in the slot a couple times with pierre in the backfield. think having lance, marques, and reggie in the wr positions and pierre running would be a tough thing for teams.

 

[gonzobill5]

as a bush and thomas owner, i was actually hoping that bush would get shut down, and this is a league where i get 0.5 ppr. sounds kind of crazy, but here is my reasoning:

a lot of his production before the injury was punt & kickoff returns and that can't be counted on week in week out. I am discouraged by 2 punt returns for -16 yards this past week. Bush had his typical bad ypc, his rushing yards come in bunches usually against bad defenses, and has 2 rushing, 2 receiving and 2 return TDs. Thomas, meanwhile, is very consistent with ypc, racks up more rushing yards, has 6 rushing TDs and 1 receiving. Bush's receptions were his saving grace, but Pierre has produced similar results with 12 catches in the three games reggie missed, and for more yards per reception than reggie. i also think that many teams scheme to take reggie out of the game (carolina earlier this year) while pierre doesn't garner that respect.

I don't think I'd go with either against Chicago in week 15 (though didn't reggie burn the bears in the playoffs during his rookie campaign?) but week 16 against detroit is delicious. I'd expect the Saints to roll, and I'd rather have Pierre running out this clock in this game.

 

[Judge Smails]

Watched every snap. I benched Reggie and played Pierre. The rain wreaked havoc on the game, especially short passes that had more velocity. Lots of drops everywhere, including several by Reggie (who never drops passes). Ball was wet/slippery. I didn't focus on that. I just wanted to see him run and cut, to see if looked like the Reggie of old. He did. With the right matchup, he can be a beast. Just can't cover the guy in passing routes. Easy 8-10 yards every play, whenever they want it.

 

[barista]

he went 5 receptions for 32 yards this weekend. It's pretty bad for standard leagues but in PPR it was 8 points. If you had a RB who ran 80 yards and didn't score a touchdown he'd score the same. So his bad games in non-PPR leagues are very ugly, but in PPR leagues, it's not so bad.

problem is that most 80yd rushers also catch 2 passes... Turner the typical exception.

 

[dirtywaters20]

Watched every snap. I benched Reggie and played Pierre. The rain wreaked havoc on the game, especially short passes that had more velocity. Lots of drops everywhere, including several by Reggie (who never drops passes). Ball was wet/slippery. I didn't focus on that. I just wanted to see him run and cut, to see if looked like the Reggie of old. He did. With the right matchup, he can be a beast. Just can't cover the guy in passing routes. Easy 8-10 yards every play, whenever they want it.

Good info, thanks for posting it. I'm rolling the dice with him again this week despite last week's disappointment.

 

[thehornet]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day.

Effective for fantasy, yes.

Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely.

Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

 

[THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes. Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely. Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

lance moore owner prehaps???

 

[Tong Po]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes. Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely. Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Wow... you know some people would call that playing to his strengths.

 

[Touchdown Syndrome]

I was unable to watch Reggie's return this last Sunday. Looking at the numbers and the game write-ups it looked like a pretty poor performance, but then again, NO as a team did not do so great. So for those that did watch him, how did he look? Was he making the cuts? And more importantly, what do you think for this week at home vs. ATL? Any status updates on his knee are much appreciated.

I can't comment on Reggie's current status..but even if he is 100%, even at "stud status" he was fairly inconsistent fantasy player especially in TD's and with rushing yards. Combo yardage or PPR scoring he was more of a weekly stable player.

Actually, he led the NFL in TD's before he was hurt. They haven't been shy about giving him red-zone touches this year.I think he'll be fine once he gets back into the flow of the offense and his touches increase. If you make it to the Super Bowl, NO plays Detroit, the fantasy Santa Claus.

 

[thehornet]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes. Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely. Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

lance moore owner prehaps???

yup

 

[Judge Smails]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes.

Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely.

Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Getting meaningful yards on first down is probably the #1 goal of most OC's. Most teams are happy with a run that gets 3-5 yards to get 2nd and 7 or 5. Reggie can pretty much take a pass to the first down marker any time they want to do it. And it's almost automatic. He puts them at 2nd and 2 all day long. And he's a threat to take every touch to the house. Every coach in the NFL would want to have a weapon like Bush on their team - trust me.

 

[thehornet]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes. Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely. Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Wow... you know some people would call that playing to his strengths.

Teams should only feed off a players' strengths if it helps the TEAM. That they want him to be the face of the franchise isnt a good reason.

 

[thehornet]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes.

Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely.

Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Getting meaningful yards on first down is probably the #1 goal of most OC's. Most teams are happy with a run that gets 3-5 yards to get 2nd and 7 or 5. Reggie can pretty much take a pass to the first down marker any time they want to do it. And it's almost automatic. He puts them at 2nd and 2 all day long. And he's a threat to take every touch to the house. Every coach in the NFL would want to have a weapon like Bush on their team - trust me.

I do not agree that he is a threat to take it to the house every time. He has had many opportunities to show this but only does is sparingly. but i am getting off topic.

I think he will be a great PPR play in Week 14, but I wouldnt expect a lot in non-ppr.

 

[Tong Po]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes. Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely. Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Wow... you know some people would call that playing to his strengths.

Teams should only feed off a players' strengths if it helps the TEAM. That they want him to be the face of the franchise isnt a good reason.

So Reggie's 600+ yards from scrimmage and 5 touchdowns in the first 6 games before the injury DIDN'T help the team?What about the 3 punts he returned for touchdowns?

 

[Judge Smails]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes.

Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely.

Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Getting meaningful yards on first down is probably the #1 goal of most OC's. Most teams are happy with a run that gets 3-5 yards to get 2nd and 7 or 5. Reggie can pretty much take a pass to the first down marker any time they want to do it. And it's almost automatic. He puts them at 2nd and 2 all day long. And he's a threat to take every touch to the house. Every coach in the NFL would want to have a weapon like Bush on their team - trust me.

I do not agree that he is a threat to take it to the house every time. He has had many opportunities to show this but only does is sparingly. but i am getting off topic.

I think he will be a great PPR play in Week 14, but I wouldnt expect a lot in non-ppr.

What are you smoking? Seriously. I want some.

 

[the spanker]

Can we get back on topic here? I own both Bush and Thomas and can only play one as I have Slaton. I'm interested in who owners think is the better play in PPR this week.

 

[steelerfan1]

Can we get back on topic here? I own both Bush and Thomas and can only play one as I have Slaton. I'm interested in who owners think is the better play in PPR this week.

i have both and am starting pierre. think he will get bulk of carries and hoping for a few receptions.

 

[groin pains]

Can we get back on topic here? I own both Bush and Thomas and can only play one as I have Slaton. I'm interested in who owners think is the better play in PPR this week.

I am an owner of both and I am contemplating playing them both this week in a PPR league. I would be benching L. White!

 

[gregs76]

Another owner with both guys, likely starting both (J. Lewis is my only other option, PPR league)...

 

[thehornet]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes.

Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely.

Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Getting meaningful yards on first down is probably the #1 goal of most OC's. Most teams are happy with a run that gets 3-5 yards to get 2nd and 7 or 5. Reggie can pretty much take a pass to the first down marker any time they want to do it. And it's almost automatic. He puts them at 2nd and 2 all day long. And he's a threat to take every touch to the house. Every coach in the NFL would want to have a weapon like Bush on their team - trust me.

I do not agree that he is a threat to take it to the house every time. He has had many opportunities to show this but only does is sparingly. but i am getting off topic.

I think he will be a great PPR play in Week 14, but I wouldnt expect a lot in non-ppr.

What are you smoking? Seriously. I want some.

what dont you get? He has totaled 1440 yards rushing in 3 seasons as a the primary rusher. That is pathetic. He is a great receiver, but i am not worried about him taking it to the house every time considering he has 8,6 and 5 rushing/receiving TD's in 2006, 2007 and 2008 respectively. I am not scared of that, sorry buck.

 

[the spanker]

Thanks guys. I think I'm going with Pierre and Slaton this week.

 

[kd1]

have both and only other option is mcfadden. opinions on that?

 

[Dancing Bear]

Reggie HAS NEVER BEEN A STUD, so he cannot return what he never was.

When will you folks admit that he is a HORRIBLE running RB? He has a sub-par Yards-Per-Rush [3.27 in 2008 yeah!]. Both McAllister and Thomas make him look silly!

In Points-Per-Reception Fantasy Leagues he may warrant consideration however even then this must be tempered with what he will or has COST you.

He is nothing but HYPE and will NEVER live up to the promise, potential or promotion.

Brees has way too many weapons now to consistently dump it off to Reggie for his only value [receptions] so you had better get used to it. Colston, Moore and Shockey are formidable receiving alternatives [along with an occasional toss to Henderson] and the distribution of catches will now be much more even amongst them as they fight for a PlayOff birth.

Bush will continue to under perform and he will most certainly fall out of the Top 25 RB!

You read it here first!

 

[Construction Man Jim]

Reggie HAS NEVER BEEN A STUD, so he cannot return what he never was.

When will you folks admit that he is a HORRIBLE running RB? He has a sub-par Yards-Per-Rush [3.27 in 2008 yeah!]. Both McAllister and Thomas make him look silly!

In Points-Per-Reception Fantasy Leagues he may warrant consideration however even then this must be tempered with what he will or has COST you.

He is nothing but HYPE and will NEVER live up to the promise, potential or promotion.

Brees has way too many weapons now to consistently dump it off to Reggie for his only value [receptions] so you had better get used to it. Colston, Moore and Shockey are formidable receiving alternatives [along with an occasional toss to Henderson] and the distribution of catches will now be much more even amongst them as they fight for a PlayOff birth.

Bush will continue to under perform and he will most certainly fall out of the Top 25 RB!

You read it here first!

He was the #1 RB in my PPR leagues prior to his injury. Even after missing 4 games he's still 18th in total points, and 4th in average points per game (19.1).

 

[Frenchy Fuqua]

JMO but I think in PPR he is still golden when playing in a dome.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Reggie HAS NEVER BEEN A STUD, so he cannot return what he never was.

When will you folks admit that he is a HORRIBLE running RB? He has a sub-par Yards-Per-Rush [3.27 in 2008 yeah!]. Both McAllister and Thomas make him look silly!

In Points-Per-Reception Fantasy Leagues he may warrant consideration however even then this must be tempered with what he will or has COST you.

He is nothing but HYPE and will NEVER live up to the promise, potential or promotion.

Brees has way too many weapons now to consistently dump it off to Reggie for his only value [receptions] so you had better get used to it. Colston, Moore and Shockey are formidable receiving alternatives [along with an occasional toss to Henderson] and the distribution of catches will now be much more even amongst them as they fight for a PlayOff birth.

Bush will continue to under perform and he will most certainly fall out of the Top 25 RB!

You read it here first!

Wow, spoken like a true idiot. Funny, when healthy he was the leading scorer by a wide margin in the league I own him. As a Saints fan I can tell you, he is far from hype. The guy is blossoming into a premier playmaker. You should actually watch a Saints game sometime.

 

[MCguidance]

Reggie HAS NEVER BEEN A STUD, so he cannot return what he never was.

When will you folks admit that he is a HORRIBLE running RB? He has a sub-par Yards-Per-Rush [3.27 in 2008 yeah!]. Both McAllister and Thomas make him look silly!

In Points-Per-Reception Fantasy Leagues he may warrant consideration however even then this must be tempered with what he will or has COST you.

He is nothing but HYPE and will NEVER live up to the promise, potential or promotion.

Brees has way too many weapons now to consistently dump it off to Reggie for his only value [receptions] so you had better get used to it. Colston, Moore and Shockey are formidable receiving alternatives [along with an occasional toss to Henderson] and the distribution of catches will now be much more even amongst them as they fight for a PlayOff birth.

Bush will continue to under perform and he will most certainly fall out of the Top 25 RB!

You read it here first!

I take the bait. Bush was leading the league in TDs before his injury.

Top 10 easy in standard leagues.

Top 3 in PPR.

He was top 5 in Fantasy points per week.

Fortunately, I don't get points for yards per rush or averages, but rather output, yards from scrimmage, receptions, and touch downs.

What has he cost me? Personally,my league mates were so down on him I got him in the 3rd round - so he was a steal.

You can keep saying he is a horrible RB - and in the traditional sense that may be true - but the fact remains that the league has changed, they have introduced the forward pass.

 

[SproutDaddy]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes. Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely. Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

As a Saints fan all I can say is we have a better chance of winning with him in the lineup. Who cares about Lance Moore's targets?

 

[simmonjm]

For my playoffs which start this week Im starting Bush over Greg Jennings in a non ppr format with some confidence.

http://blog.nola.com/saintsbeat/2008/12/ne...ec_3_pract.html

Bush returned to action last week at Tampa Bay, but he struggled to shake off the rust after missing four games with his own knee injury, and he was benched for much of the second half.

"My knee felt fine, I was just rusty. The weather didn't help. It was kind of bad conditions to come back in," Bush said of the wet and windy weather at Tampa. "It's definitely not easy just to bounce back and think you're going to pick up right where you left off. It's going to be a little have. You're going to have some mental errors, and you may drop some balls. So you've really just got to get the kinks out, really, in practice and everything.

"Like today I felt great. This is the best I've felt since I've been back. I feel like I'll have a much, much better game in this game coming up, and I'll look to play an actual full game this time."

 

[sho nuff]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes.

Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely.

Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Getting meaningful yards on first down is probably the #1 goal of most OC's. Most teams are happy with a run that gets 3-5 yards to get 2nd and 7 or 5. Reggie can pretty much take a pass to the first down marker any time they want to do it. And it's almost automatic. He puts them at 2nd and 2 all day long. And he's a threat to take every touch to the house. Every coach in the NFL would want to have a weapon like Bush on their team - trust me.

I do not agree that he is a threat to take it to the house every time. He has had many opportunities to show this but only does is sparingly. but i am getting off topic.

I think he will be a great PPR play in Week 14, but I wouldnt expect a lot in non-ppr.

What are you smoking? Seriously. I want some.

what dont you get? He has totaled 1440 yards rushing in 3 seasons as a the primary rusher. That is pathetic. He is a great receiver, but i am not worried about him taking it to the house every time considering he has 8,6 and 5 rushing/receiving TD's in 2006, 2007 and 2008 respectively. I am not scared of that, sorry buck.

Why did you just bring up his rushing yards.The guy said every time he touches the ball...not every time he rushes it.

He is not the prototypical running back running between the tackles.

He is a weapon that is used in multiple ways.

Without letting him run some, his receiving is not as big of a weapon.

He is not just a WR so lining him up in the slot all the time is no help.

He was leading the league in TDs prior to being hurt. Not sure how that was hurting the team.

 

[sho nuff]

Reggie HAS NEVER BEEN A STUD, so he cannot return what he never was.

When will you folks admit that he is a HORRIBLE running RB? He has a sub-par Yards-Per-Rush [3.27 in 2008 yeah!]. Both McAllister and Thomas make him look silly!

In Points-Per-Reception Fantasy Leagues he may warrant consideration however even then this must be tempered with what he will or has COST you.

He is nothing but HYPE and will NEVER live up to the promise, potential or promotion.

Brees has way too many weapons now to consistently dump it off to Reggie for his only value [receptions] so you had better get used to it. Colston, Moore and Shockey are formidable receiving alternatives [along with an occasional toss to Henderson] and the distribution of catches will now be much more even amongst them as they fight for a PlayOff birth.

Bush will continue to under perform and he will most certainly fall out of the Top 25 RB!

You read it here first!

Do you get fantasy points for yards per rush?He was a top 5 RB in my format (non-ppr) prior to the injury.

He is not just a running back...so quit just judging him on running the ball.

 

[cvnpoka]

Reggie HAS NEVER BEEN A STUD, so he cannot return what he never was.

When will you folks admit that he is a HORRIBLE running RB? He has a sub-par Yards-Per-Rush [3.27 in 2008 yeah!]. Both McAllister and Thomas make him look silly!

In Points-Per-Reception Fantasy Leagues he may warrant consideration however even then this must be tempered with what he will or has COST you.

He is nothing but HYPE and will NEVER live up to the promise, potential or promotion.

Brees has way too many weapons now to consistently dump it off to Reggie for his only value [receptions] so you had better get used to it. Colston, Moore and Shockey are formidable receiving alternatives [along with an occasional toss to Henderson] and the distribution of catches will now be much more even amongst them as they fight for a PlayOff birth.

Bush will continue to under perform and he will most certainly fall out of the Top 25 RB!

You read it here first!

eh, reggie may not be a great fantasy player (tho he was doing fine this year) but he is certainly a fine nfl player. no one in the league is as versatile. sure, hes not great between the tackles but it looked like he had made some strides there, and im not sure how much of it had to do with his shortcomings or the coaching staffs reluctance to give him that chance. regardless, he had a decent goalline and 5yr line rate this year and they were going to him often. while he has a short yrd/carry average, he is almost guaranteed those 2-3 yards when running to the corner. he is one of the few backs where a goalline pitch actually works. the coaching staff finally found that out.everyone agrees he is great reciever and explosive in the open field on screens and dumpoffs.

and he is probably the best punt returner in the league right now.

he had 8 tds before injury, which led the league. of course a few were on st so fantasy snobs will scoff but as a football player they illustrate his worth and ability.

as for your last comment, no you werent even close to the first to say that, as ppl have ripped on bush since before he was even drafted. i think it was unfair then and i think it is incorrect now. there is more to being a great player than yards per carry and fantasy numbers.

 

[Dancing Bear]

Wow, spoken like a true idiot. Funny, when healthy he was the leading scorer by a wide margin in the league I own him. As a Saints fan I can tell you, he is far from hype. The guy is blossoming into a premier playmaker. You should actually watch a Saints game sometime.

Dearest SproutDaddy,Should you have a differing opinion I encourage you to feel free to express it, but kindly refrain from calling me names and using insulting comments ... You have not identified one counter statistic to refute my original hypothesis. In fact you are offering hyperbole and hype ...Bush could not have possibly been leading your league unless it is a PPR league which my post clearly references as a proviso; meaning I was talking about standard non-PPR league scoring.Perhaps you should review his stats to find that he is not a playmaker at all let alone a premier playmaker. A playmaker is someone who can actually produce. Kindly inform us of how many plays from scrimmage Bush has of 20 or more yards this year or in his career? Kindly compare that to someone like say Deuce McAllister, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, MJD, Matt Forte, Michael Turner or a host of others who HAVE PRODUCED.I'm predicting that Bush will not finish in the Top 25 of a standard scoring fantasy league in 2008 [in total or ppg scoring]. His rushing statistics clearly reflect this to be a high probability and his surrounding cast will render his double digit reception and high receiving yardage games a thing of the past.

 

[thehornet]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes.

Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely.

Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Getting meaningful yards on first down is probably the #1 goal of most OC's. Most teams are happy with a run that gets 3-5 yards to get 2nd and 7 or 5. Reggie can pretty much take a pass to the first down marker any time they want to do it. And it's almost automatic. He puts them at 2nd and 2 all day long. And he's a threat to take every touch to the house. Every coach in the NFL would want to have a weapon like Bush on their team - trust me.

I do not agree that he is a threat to take it to the house every time. He has had many opportunities to show this but only does is sparingly. but i am getting off topic.

I think he will be a great PPR play in Week 14, but I wouldnt expect a lot in non-ppr.

What are you smoking? Seriously. I want some.

what dont you get? He has totaled 1440 yards rushing in 3 seasons as a the primary rusher. That is pathetic. He is a great receiver, but i am not worried about him taking it to the house every time considering he has 8,6 and 5 rushing/receiving TD's in 2006, 2007 and 2008 respectively. I am not scared of that, sorry buck.

Why did you just bring up his rushing yards.The guy said every time he touches the ball...not every time he rushes it.

He is not the prototypical running back running between the tackles.

He is a weapon that is used in multiple ways.

Without letting him run some, his receiving is not as big of a weapon.

He is not just a WR so lining him up in the slot all the time is no help.

He was leading the league in TDs prior to being hurt. Not sure how that was hurting the team.

there are a lot of guys in the NFL that can be playmakers if they receive 10-15 rushing attempts and 10+ receiving looks in a game. Actually, it's hard not to pile up stats when your coach devotes so much of his game plan to you. Funny, that the saints can't even make the playoffs with this premiere playmaker.

 

[MCguidance]

Wow, spoken like a true idiot. Funny, when healthy he was the leading scorer by a wide margin in the league I own him. As a Saints fan I can tell you, he is far from hype. The guy is blossoming into a premier playmaker. You should actually watch a Saints game sometime.

Dearest SproutDaddy,Should you have a differing opinion I encourage you to feel free to express it, but kindly refrain from calling me names and using insulting comments ... You have not identified one counter statistic to refute my original hypothesis. In fact you are offering hyperbole and hype ...

Bush could not have possibly been leading your league unless it is a PPR league which my post clearly references as a proviso; meaning I was talking about standard non-PPR league scoring.

Perhaps you should review his stats to find that he is not a playmaker at all let alone a premier playmaker. A playmaker is someone who can actually produce. Kindly inform us of how many plays from scrimmage Bush has of 20 or more yards this year or in his career? Kindly compare that to someone like say Deuce McAllister, Adrian Peterson, Chris Johnson, MJD, Matt Forte, Michael Turner or a host of others who HAVE PRODUCED.

I'm predicting that Bush will not finish in the Top 25 of a standard scoring fantasy league in 2008 [in total or ppg scoring]. His rushing statistics clearly reflect this to be a high probability and his surrounding cast will render his double digit reception and high receiving yardage games a thing of the past.

We posted 3 times that pre injury he was leading the league in TDs, this year. That's called production. I am impressed, with just some PowerBait you've managed to catch some steelhead.

 

[sho nuff]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes.

Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely.

Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Getting meaningful yards on first down is probably the #1 goal of most OC's. Most teams are happy with a run that gets 3-5 yards to get 2nd and 7 or 5. Reggie can pretty much take a pass to the first down marker any time they want to do it. And it's almost automatic. He puts them at 2nd and 2 all day long. And he's a threat to take every touch to the house. Every coach in the NFL would want to have a weapon like Bush on their team - trust me.

I do not agree that he is a threat to take it to the house every time. He has had many opportunities to show this but only does is sparingly. but i am getting off topic.

I think he will be a great PPR play in Week 14, but I wouldnt expect a lot in non-ppr.

What are you smoking? Seriously. I want some.

what dont you get? He has totaled 1440 yards rushing in 3 seasons as a the primary rusher. That is pathetic. He is a great receiver, but i am not worried about him taking it to the house every time considering he has 8,6 and 5 rushing/receiving TD's in 2006, 2007 and 2008 respectively. I am not scared of that, sorry buck.

Why did you just bring up his rushing yards.The guy said every time he touches the ball...not every time he rushes it.

He is not the prototypical running back running between the tackles.

He is a weapon that is used in multiple ways.

Without letting him run some, his receiving is not as big of a weapon.

He is not just a WR so lining him up in the slot all the time is no help.

He was leading the league in TDs prior to being hurt. Not sure how that was hurting the team.

there are a lot of guys in the NFL that can be playmakers if they receive 10-15 rushing attempts and 10+ receiving looks in a game. Actually, it's hard not to pile up stats when your coach devotes so much of his game plan to you. Funny, that the saints can't even make the playoffs with this premiere playmaker.

If there were that many guys that could do it...teams would be giving them the ball in that manner.The coach puts up that game plan because it helps the team...not hurts it.

The Saints can't make the playoffs for a number of reasons, I don't think reggie bush is to blame.

 

[cvnpoka]

I'm predicting that Bush will not finish in the Top 25 of a standard scoring fantasy league in 2008 [in total or ppg scoring]. His rushing statistics clearly reflect this to be a high probability and his surrounding cast will render his double digit reception and high receiving yardage games a thing of the past.

bush tore his meniscus and had surgery. his team is out of contention and has no reason to even play him the last few games.of course you are a huge favorite in this prediction. tell me what your predictions are for him next year?

 

[sho nuff]

I'm predicting that Bush will not finish in the Top 25 of a standard scoring fantasy league in 2008 [in total or ppg scoring]. His rushing statistics clearly reflect this to be a high probability and his surrounding cast will render his double digit reception and high receiving yardage games a thing of the past.

bush tore his meniscus and had surgery. his team is out of contention and has no reason to even play him the last few games.of course you are a huge favorite in this prediction. tell me what your predictions are for him next year?

He is still #19 in my league after missing all that time.

 

[thehornet]

Screw Reggie! He hurts the New Orleans offense in general. Why is this guy considered dynamic? A lot of players can gain big yardage with the type of plays the Saints run for him. Fact of the matter is that he isn't a good running back and never will be in the NFL, but the Saints dont want to make it seem like they made a mistake drafting him. So what do they do? Give him a ton of screens and short outs to try to open up the field. Teams are hip to this and they let it happen. Reggie Bush isn't beating anybody. Opposing coaches will let him get his stupid little catches all day. Effective for fantasy, yes.

Hurting the Saints as a team, definitely.

Not to mention, he takes most of Lance Moore's targets.

Getting meaningful yards on first down is probably the #1 goal of most OC's. Most teams are happy with a run that gets 3-5 yards to get 2nd and 7 or 5. Reggie can pretty much take a pass to the first down marker any time they want to do it. And it's almost automatic. He puts them at 2nd and 2 all day long. And he's a threat to take every touch to the house. Every coach in the NFL would want to have a weapon like Bush on their team - trust me.

I do not agree that he is a threat to take it to the house every time. He has had many opportunities to show this but only does is sparingly. but i am getting off topic.

I think he will be a great PPR play in Week 14, but I wouldnt expect a lot in non-ppr.

What are you smoking? Seriously. I want some.

what dont you get? He has totaled 1440 yards rushing in 3 seasons as a the primary rusher. That is pathetic. He is a great receiver, but i am not worried about him taking it to the house every time considering he has 8,6 and 5 rushing/receiving TD's in 2006, 2007 and 2008 respectively. I am not scared of that, sorry buck.

Why did you just bring up his rushing yards.The guy said every time he touches the ball...not every time he rushes it.

He is not the prototypical running back running between the tackles.

He is a weapon that is used in multiple ways.

Without letting him run some, his receiving is not as big of a weapon.

He is not just a WR so lining him up in the slot all the time is no help.

He was leading the league in TDs prior to being hurt. Not sure how that was hurting the team.

there are a lot of guys in the NFL that can be playmakers if they receive 10-15 rushing attempts and 10+ receiving looks in a game. Actually, it's hard not to pile up stats when your coach devotes so much of his game plan to you. Funny, that the saints can't even make the playoffs with this premiere playmaker.

If there were that many guys that could do it...teams would be giving them the ball in that manner.The coach puts up that game plan because it helps the team...not hurts it.

The Saints can't make the playoffs for a number of reasons, I don't think reggie bush is to blame.

Well, I disagree 110%. I think the Saints want to prove to everybody that they made the right decision. There isn't much else to debate, only time will tell. But as of this point in his career, he would be considered one of the all time busts.

 

[sho nuff]

Coaches end up jobless if they try to prove to fans that the GM made the right decision on drafting a player.

 

[Lobary]

I'd usually be inclined to side with the pessimists on this one, but I predict Bush to have a very big fantasy game this weekend at home against Atlanta. I know he didn't do much last week and Pierre Thomas is running well in McAllister's stead, yet I'm terrified of what Bush could do Sunday. I have to play against him because my main rival (a huge Saints fan) is starting Bush over Sammy Morris in our ppr league playoff matchup.

I'm calling it now: Bush 10 carries for 45 yards, 8 receptions for 68 yards, two TDs.

 

[Ripleys]

man there are a few posters here that CLEARLY rode the short bus to school growing up. Bush is a STUD in PPR leagues, how can anyone not admit that?

 

[thehornet]

man there are a few posters here that CLEARLY rode the short bus to school growing up. Bush is a STUD in PPR leagues, how can anyone not admit that?

ya he is, but it doesnt mean he's a premiere playmaker as some are already annointing him.

 

[SproutDaddy]

man there are a few posters here that CLEARLY rode the short bus to school growing up. Bush is a STUD in PPR leagues, how can anyone not admit that?

ya he is, but it doesnt mean he's a premiere playmaker as some are already annointing him.

Admitting your in denial is the first step on the road to recovery.Watch a game sometime.