THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
they say it unofficial...but someone leaked out he was on da cover.
is this BS? or have anyone else heard of this?
is this BS? or have anyone else heard of this?
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Reggie Bush on Madden Cover? (1 Viewer)
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Peep It Yo!
Footballguy
I sure hope not. Not only will being on the Madden cover cause Reggie to tear his ACL in camp, but it will also ensure that USC is put on probation for his "alleged" rules violations when he played there. Furthermore, the Saints would also be punished as they would finish 2-14 next year.
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
well, this is the link posted on my message boards.
so take it for what its worth.
http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=266827
so take it for what its worth.
http://www.fftodayforums.com/forum/index.p...howtopic=266827
Man..after this year you would've thought it would be LT on the cover. And yes I do own Bush in my dynasty league
THE UNDERCOVER BROTHA
Footballguy
thought it would be LT too....but either him or wonderboy BUSH would make the most sense, maybe Bush since he is hot with the young crowd right now.
Im glad it wasnt Vince Young...but come next year i dunno.
Im glad it wasnt Vince Young...but come next year i dunno.
MelKiperJr
Footballguy
BS
from an LT owner...
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
LT has refused to be on the cover. He said it gives him all the credit when he owes it to his line.Man..after this year you would've thought it would be LT on the cover. And yes I do own Bush in my dynasty league
mad sweeney
Footballguy
Fo shizlle!If I was LT I would PAY EA Sports to keep me off the cover. I never believed in it but after the injury prone year the Hawks had last year, sadly, I have been converted. Fingers are still crossed it's not LT.Course, I have Bush too so I'm not happy about it but I'd rather lose him than LT!from an LT owner...
from an LT owner...
Kit Fisto
Footballguy
Well, as we all know, LT is a classy guy... just ask him.TheLastDispatch said:LT has refused to be on the cover. He said it gives him all the credit when he owes it to his line.sib said:Man..after this year you would've thought it would be LT on the cover. And yes I do own Bush in my dynasty leagueTHE UNDERCOVER BROTHA said:
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Yup, he is classy. He's just not modest.Well, as we all know, LT is a classy guy... just ask him.TheLastDispatch said:LT has refused to be on the cover. He said it gives him all the credit when he owes it to his line.sib said:Man..after this year you would've thought it would be LT on the cover. And yes I do own Bush in my dynasty leagueTHE UNDERCOVER BROTHA said:
GRIDIRON ASSASSIN
Footballguy
-OZ-
Footballguy
Banger said:
Makes sense, Saints making the NFC Championship game was huge and Reggie is a very popular player already.
Domination
Footballguy
I don't thiink that Bush make sense at all. The Saints were a great feel-good story, and a very improved team. I would have thought that for most of the year that it would have been LT. But IMO, I think that it will be Peyton Manning. He is already one of the biggest icons in the sport, and he is coming off of a Superbowl victory that could help to establish his "legacy". Also, the fact that he hasn't been hurt, could help to make the Madden curse less believable.
-OZ-
Footballguy
Peyton would be my other choice, perhaps a better option. Of course, if Peyton got the cover, then got injured, no NFL player would let themselves be on it.
Domination
Footballguy
Wheelhouse
Footballguy
Not just LT owners, but anyone other than Bush owners areBanger said:from an LT owner...
Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
Just some fun info:
History of The Madden Curse
Barry Sanders and Dorsey Levens (2000) Sanders retires, Levens replaces him on cover, 224 yards from scrimmage in 2000
Eddie George (2001) 939 yards and 5 touchdowns in the 2001
Daunte Culpepper (2002) 4-7 record until Culpepper suffers season-ending knee injury
Marshall Faulk (2003) Ankle injury, misses 5 games.
Michael Vick (2004) Missed 11 games, only 585 passing yards.
Ray Lewis (2005) Season ending injury in week 6.
Donovan McNabb (2006) Tears ACL , ends season.
Shaun Alexander (2007) Out the whole season, costing me big time in FF..
History of The Madden Curse
Barry Sanders and Dorsey Levens (2000) Sanders retires, Levens replaces him on cover, 224 yards from scrimmage in 2000
Eddie George (2001) 939 yards and 5 touchdowns in the 2001
Daunte Culpepper (2002) 4-7 record until Culpepper suffers season-ending knee injury
Marshall Faulk (2003) Ankle injury, misses 5 games.
Michael Vick (2004) Missed 11 games, only 585 passing yards.
Ray Lewis (2005) Season ending injury in week 6.
Donovan McNabb (2006) Tears ACL , ends season.
Shaun Alexander (2007) Out the whole season, costing me big time in FF..
CalBear
Footballguy
As always, this is complete and utter rubbish. Eddie George was the first athlete on the cover; before that, it had always been Madden on the cover. George went for 1500 yards and 14 TDs.
Culpepper got hurt.
Faulk played 14 games, the same he'd played the previous two years.
Vick got hurt.
Lewis was fine.
McNabb got hurt
Alexander got hurt.
That sounds like football to me.
Moldy Potato
Footballguy
You need to check your facts.Snopes has a good summary:
http://www.snopes.com/sports/football/maddencurse.asp
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
George didn't go for 1500 and 14 in 01. He went for 939 and 4 on 3.0 YPC.Faulk only played 11 games and had only 818 yards.
Ray Lewis only played 6 games before being hurt for the season.
I think you might have been looking at the wrong years.
SmoovySmoov
The Way of the Samurai
Barry Sanders and Dorsey Levens (2000)The very first NFL player to be on a Madden NFL cover was Barry Sanders in 1999, for Madden NFL 2000. He shared the cover with the then-customary picture of John Madden. However, a week before training camp began in 1999, Sanders abruptly retired - ending his career and leaving the Detroit Lions without their star running back of the previous 10 years. Sanders' part in the curse is debated because he is not pictured alone on the box, and he had willingly retired. Dorsey Levens was featured on the 2000 cover that was released in PAL regions. After rushing for 1,034 yards in 1999, he gained only 224 yards from scrimmage in 2000. Ultimately, Levens was cut by the Green Bay Packers in 2001, and retired, as a Packer, in 2004, after playing as a journeyman who had 1-season stints with both the Philadelphia Eagles and New York Giants.
Eddie George (2001)
Eddie George, then of the Tennessee Titans, who graced the Madden NFL 2001 box, was the next 'cursed' player. After averaging 3.9 yards per carry in his first five seasons and rushing for over 1,300 yards in each one, he averaged only 3 yards per carry and rushed for career lows of 939 yards and 5 touchdowns in the 2001 season. For the rest of his career, he never averaged more than 3.4 yards per carry, but did rush for over 1,000 yards twice and scored 14 touchdowns in 2002. It is often referred to his part of the curse in that he bobbled a pass (that was subsequently intercepted and returned for a touchdown) in the Titans season-ending Divisional Playoff loss to the Baltimore Ravens, and the following season, hampered by injuries, he saw his rushing average sink to an all-time low.
Dante Culpepper (2002)
Former Minnesota Vikings star quarterback Daunte Culpepper appeared on the Madden NFL 2002 cover, and the Vikings struggled to a 4-7 record until Culpepper was shelved with a season-ending knee injury.
Marshall Faulk (2003)
Running back Marshall Faulk of the St. Louis Rams, who was on the Madden NFL 2003 box, suffered an ankle injury, missing five games. He never broke through the 1,000 yards rushing mark for the rest of his career.
Michael Vick (2004)
Very shortly after Madden 2004 was released featuring Atlanta Falcons quarterback Michael Vick on the cover, Vick was injured during a preseason game against the Baltimore Ravens, suffering a fractured right fibula. Vick played in only the last 5 regular season games, finishing with just 585 yards passing and 4 touchdowns. The Atlanta Falcons missed the playoffs and were already out of contention by the time Vick returned from his injury. The "curse" forced the Atlanta Falcons to finish the season with a record of 5 wins and 11 losses, a stark contrast to the team's 9-6-1 record the season prior.
Ray Lewis (2005)
Madden 2005 featured Ray Lewis of the Baltimore Ravens, the first defensive player ever to appear on the cover of a Madden game. He broke his wrist, an injury that kept him out of the last game of the regular season. It was also Lewis' first season without a single interception, after posting a career-high 6 the previous year - although admittedly, interceptions are a secondary statistic for linebackers. The Baltimore Ravens also failed to make the playoffs that season (2004), after winning their division the year before. Furthermore, in Week 6 of the 2005 season, Ray Lewis' season was ended by an injury.
Donovan McNabb (2006)
After leading the Eagles to the Super Bowl in 2004, the Philadelphia Eagles' star quarterback Donovan McNabb was on the cover of Madden NFL 06. During the 2005 season, McNabb suffered a sports hernia in the first game of the season against the Atlanta Falcons. Even though it needed surgery McNabb continued to play through the injury.[1] In the tenth game of the season, McNabb re-injured his groin after throwing an interception against the Dallas Cowboys, and subsequently decided to have season-ending surgery for his sports hernia. [2] [3] Throughout the 2005 season, McNabb had had a highly-publicized feud with his teammate, wide receiver Terrell Owens.
In the following 2006 season, McNabb suffered a torn right anterior cruciate ligament (ACL) in the 10th game of the season aginst the Tennessee Titans and was placed on injured reserve for the remainder of the year.
Shaun Alexander (2007)
Prior to the 2006 season, Alexander had never missed a full game in his entire seven-season NFL career. In the 2006 season, however, Madden NFL 07 cover-athlete and reigning NFL MVP Shaun Alexander of the Seattle Seahawks suffered a fracture in his 4th metatarsal in his left foot which he received during the first game of the season against the Detroit Lions. Alexander attempted to play through the injury, but was relatively ineffective. After the Seahawks third game, it was announced that his injury was worse than originally thought, and Alexander missed the next six games.[4] Alexander rushed for 896 yards (3.6 yards per carry) in the 2006 season, as opposed to 1,880 yards (5.1 yards per carry) in the 2005 season. In addition, Alexander's record of most touchdowns per season lasted only one year, as his 2005 record was broken by LaDainian Tomlinson in 2006.
CalBear
Footballguy
I am looking at the correct years. The idiots who believe in the Madden Curse are looking at the wrong years.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
...Recheck. If you're right then NFL.com, profootballreference.com, plus the websites that other people posted after quoting you are all wrong. Unlikely.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1174/gamelogs/2001
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/3505/
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GeorEd00.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_George
http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1174
http://www.databasefootball.com/teams/team...nfl&yr=2001
There's 6 sites that agree with the "idiots" Cal.
http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/football/nfl/players/3505/
http://www.pro-football-reference.com/games/GeorEd00.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eddie_George
http://sportsline.com/nfl/players/playerpage/1174
http://www.databasefootball.com/teams/team...nfl&yr=2001
There's 6 sites that agree with the "idiots" Cal.
CalBear
Footballguy
"Madden 2001" came out in 2000, when Eddie George had the best season of his career. Similarly, Shaun Alexander was on the cover of Madden 2007 when he was injured in 2006.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Point taken. All of those players also had bad years or were hurt the year of the cover though. McNabb was hurt in 06, Lewis was hurt in 05, Vick had a career high in fumbles and lowest yards and tds when he played a near-full season, Faulk missed 5 games, Culpepper was hurt, and George had 939 and 4 on 3.0 YPC.
If it doesn't look like a curse to you in the year the game comes out, that certainly looks like a curse for the player during the following year (year number on box)
ETA: So of the 8 players, 5 had bad years/were hurt the year the game came out, all 8 suffered the following year.
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CalBear
Footballguy
Wrong again. Culpepper played 16 games in 2002 and scored 10 rushing TDs and Vick had his typical season in 2004. We don't know whether Alexander will get hurt in 2007. It's ridiculous to discuss it, but even more ridiculous to jam patterns that don't fit into a silly superstition.
crnerblitz
Footballguy
Peep It Yo! said:
Alleged? Alleged? The NCAA will never fix the systemic problems it has as long as its supporters continue to stick their heads in the sand. Back on topic though, I think the curse is one of those flukey things that probably is just coincedence. It is also likely that this 'coincedence' will continue to propagate itself for at least another year. I will be bumping the player appearing on the cover down a couple of slots once that player is determined. To be sure.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Vick had his most ever fumbles in a season, least ever yards in a season with 15+ games, and least ever TDs in a season with 15+ games. So no, I wasn't wrong on that.Culpepper threw 6 more picks than TDs that season. First time he ever threw more picks than TDs. Lowest QB rating of his career as of then and career record for fumbles. I'd still count that as a bad season.So we're still at 5 players having a bad season or getting hurt the year of, and all 7 the year after (minus alexander).
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CalBear
Footballguy
Also, Dorsey Levens only played in 7 games in 1998! It must have been the Madden Curse propagating backwards through time!
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
I don't see what that has to do with it unless you're just trying to change the subject that 5 of 8 were hurt/had bad years year of and all 7 so far were hurt/had bad years the year after.You don't have to believe in it, a lot of people don't. It could very well be coincidence. But to deny there is even a pattern is ridiculous IMO.
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CalBear
Footballguy
Vick had his highest completion percentage, highest yards per attempt, nearly broke the QB rushing yardage record, and went to the NFC Championship game in 2004. If you're willing to call that a bad season just to make it fit your superstition, you should be posting on astrology.com instead.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
He also had his least number of attempts, which I think affects completion percentage and possibly yards per attempt. ALMOST doesn't count in my book, and the NFC championship game is a team effort.As for twisting the stats, it could also be viewed that you're overlooking his career high fumbles, career low yards, and career low TDs to make it fit your views.And even if we say that he didn't have a bad year(which personally I wouldn't say), that puts us at 5/8 had a bad year/were hurt year of and 6/7 had a bad year/were hurt year after. If you can't see any trend there, that's fine. To me, that still looks like a trend.Let's just agree to disagree here.
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CalBear
Footballguy
It's a completely meaningless trend. Basically what you're saying is, "when a player has an exceptional season, sometime within the next two years he's likely to have a disappointing season." This is not news. It's not interesting. It's a waste of time. And to think that the cover of some video game has anything to do with whether a football player breaks his foot...well, maybe you've had one too many blows to the head.
TheLastDispatch
Footballguy
Nice to see you've had to result to insults in every single one of your posts with just 1 exception. Feel better about yourself now? Or do you just have a problem with anyone who disagrees with you?Like I said, let's just agree to disagree.
Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
I took all said info about the curse from Wikipedia, so if its wrong I will no longer stand by it...Still kind of intriguing how most the guys were never the same after.
Spartans Rule
Footballguy
They weren't?Culpepper had one of the most amazing statistical seasons in NFL history in 2004.
Iron Mike Tomczak
Footballguy
Domination
Footballguy
Your facts are wrong. The year on the Madden game is for the actual year that the Superbowl will be in. So SA being on the cover of '07 was for the '06-'07 season. Why do you think that they got on the cover? It is because of their big years the year before.
Keys Myaths
Pokerguy
Really?It's amazing anyone REALLY believes there's a connection. Honestly.Correlation and causation are two different things. They really are.Peep It Yo! said:
pffft.....only idiots believe in the Madden Curse......Everyone knows it's really the Campbell's Soup commercials that you need to worry about.
thesurfshop19
Footballguy
There are only 2 real "trends" from the Madden curse, and even those are pretty damn suspect and pretty indicative of "what goes up must come down".
1. The team of the cover player without exception does worse in the season he's on the cover than the season before
Madden 2001 - Eddie George - 2000 Titans lost in Divisional round after making Super Bowl in 1999
Madden 2002 - Daunte Culpepper - 2001 Vikings missed playoffs after making NFC Championship game in 2000
Madden 2003 - Marshall Faulk - 2002 Rams missed playoffs after making Super Bowl in 2001
Madden 2004 - Michael Vick - 2003 Falcons missed playoffs after making Divisional Round in 2002
Madden 2005 - Ray Lewis - 2004 Ravens missed playoffs after winning AFC North in 2003
Madden 2006 - Donovan McNabb - 2005 Eagles missed playoffs after making Super Bowl in 2004
Madden 2007 - Shaun Alexander - 2006 Seahawks lost in Divisional Round after making Super Bowl in 2005
While it's compelling that this trend hasn't missed a single time, we're also looking at limited sample sizes of generally hyped players / teams who had all the breaks the season before.
2. Quarterbacks on the cover tend to sustain injuries
Madden 2002 - Daunte Culpepper - 2612 yards, 14 TDs, 11 games in 2001 after 3937 yards, 33 TDs, and 16 games in 2000
Madden 2004 - Michael Vick - 585 yards, 4 TDs, 5 games in 2003 after 2936 yards, 16 TDs, and 15 games in 2002
Madden 2006 - Donovan McNabb - 2507 yards, 16 TDs, 9 games in 2005 after 3875 yards, 31 TDs, and 15 games in 2004
This is less convincing, as running QBs tend to be the ones to make the cover and to make the cover you (a) have to be lucky healthwise which isn't sustainable and (b) probably take more shots which generates more wear on your body for the following year.
The other cover athletes had dropoff but still good seasons in most cases, with Eddie George having the best season of his career in 2000, the year he was on the cover.
Much ado about nothing.
1. The team of the cover player without exception does worse in the season he's on the cover than the season before
Madden 2001 - Eddie George - 2000 Titans lost in Divisional round after making Super Bowl in 1999
Madden 2002 - Daunte Culpepper - 2001 Vikings missed playoffs after making NFC Championship game in 2000
Madden 2003 - Marshall Faulk - 2002 Rams missed playoffs after making Super Bowl in 2001
Madden 2004 - Michael Vick - 2003 Falcons missed playoffs after making Divisional Round in 2002
Madden 2005 - Ray Lewis - 2004 Ravens missed playoffs after winning AFC North in 2003
Madden 2006 - Donovan McNabb - 2005 Eagles missed playoffs after making Super Bowl in 2004
Madden 2007 - Shaun Alexander - 2006 Seahawks lost in Divisional Round after making Super Bowl in 2005
While it's compelling that this trend hasn't missed a single time, we're also looking at limited sample sizes of generally hyped players / teams who had all the breaks the season before.
2. Quarterbacks on the cover tend to sustain injuries
Madden 2002 - Daunte Culpepper - 2612 yards, 14 TDs, 11 games in 2001 after 3937 yards, 33 TDs, and 16 games in 2000
Madden 2004 - Michael Vick - 585 yards, 4 TDs, 5 games in 2003 after 2936 yards, 16 TDs, and 15 games in 2002
Madden 2006 - Donovan McNabb - 2507 yards, 16 TDs, 9 games in 2005 after 3875 yards, 31 TDs, and 15 games in 2004
This is less convincing, as running QBs tend to be the ones to make the cover and to make the cover you (a) have to be lucky healthwise which isn't sustainable and (b) probably take more shots which generates more wear on your body for the following year.
The other cover athletes had dropoff but still good seasons in most cases, with Eddie George having the best season of his career in 2000, the year he was on the cover.
Much ado about nothing.
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CalBear
Footballguy
Uh, yes, exactly. Eddie George was on Madden 2001, for the 00-01 season, after being in the Super Bowl the year before. That year, he had almost 2000 total yards and 16 TDs, both career highs.
