Reggie Bush (or Even Brian Westbrook) (1 Viewer)

[David Yudkin]

In fantasy baseball, guys that split time at two positions have position eligibility at more than one position. Do any fantasy football leagues do the same thing?

Let's just say for ha-has that Deuce comes back and is the primary RB in N.O. and Bush plays half the time at WR and half the time out of the backfield. Ditto in Philly, and say Moats becomes the primary rusher and Westbrook lines up more at WR than at tailback.

Are there any leagues with players eligible at more than one position? Almost certainly, either of these gius would have way more value as a WR, where they could potentially be a Top 5-10 WR.

There are other players that fit this profile as well (whether it makes them more value is doubtful). Chris Cooley played a lot out of the backfield. Ben Watson saw some plays at WR.

Are we at a point where we should be giving some players eligibility at more than one position? Where would you think Westbrook and Bush should be listed if they played more at WR than at RB?

 

[Winning IS Everything]

Our league goes entirely by how the hosting service lists them on the site. They have Bush and Westbrook listed at RB so that is how they are listed for us. I remember years ago we had to go through hoops to get Deion Sanders added as a WR.

I think they need to be listed as their respective team roster has them listed. For instance if Bush is listed by NO as the #2 RB he should be used in FF as such until the team rosters him as a WR.

 

[Chase Stuart]

Whatever stupid system the NFL uses to decide that Reggie Bush is a RB and can't wear #5 is probably what we should use.

 

[David Yudkin]

If Matt Jones were solely listed at QB, would he then be a fantasy QB and not a WR?

 

[GregR_2]

If Matt Jones Mike Vick were solely listed at QB, would he then be a fantasy QB and not a WR RB?

Fixed. And yes.

 

[Chase Stuart]

If Matt Jones Mike Vick were solely listed at QB, would he then be a fantasy QB and not a WR RB?

Fixed. And yes.Edit to add: Wierd. Wonder why one of my italics worked and the second one doesn't.

I'm not sure. I tried putting in lower case letters but that didn't do it. I noticed this problem in another thread today well. I've got a theory about its origin, but I'm not sure if this really is new or not. I'll ping Keith.Edited to add: Nevermind. Upon further review you used the wrong slash and a malfunction in the quotes caused the other one.

 

[Winning IS Everything]

If Matt Jones were solely listed at QB, would he then be a fantasy QB and not a WR?

This brings up an interesting question. Can an NFL team legally list say Matt Jones at QB but line him up at WR extensively? If so, then there may be basis to have him listed at multiple positions for fantasy. However, we know he plays WR about 95% of the time so he is easily listed at WR for fantasy.

 

[Cixelsyd]

A couple of things...

We utilize a salary cap, so we identify the position he will be playing at the start of the season...

If your league uses a flex position (or 2 or 3) then the reggie bush issue is a non issue... as it's a flex, who cares...

The only real case it's an issue is QB/WR, etc... but again... common sense is Vick is a QB, Matt Jones is a WR.

As for the cooleys of the world... he's a TE with benefits

 

[Duckboy]

One of my leagues actually lists cases in the rules that they know could have issues (Vick, Westbrook, Randle El - MJones was added last year). That issue came up specifically with Slash, as the software listed him at WR even though he was playing QB.

 

[Marc Levin]

If Matt Jones were solely listed at QB, would he then be a fantasy QB and not a WR?

This brings up an interesting question. Can an NFL team legally list say Matt Jones at QB but line him up at WR extensively?

why not?Rod Smith was, IIRC, the team's emergency QB and he is listed as a WR.

 

[Marc Levin]

If Matt Jones Mike Vick were solely listed at QB, would he then be a fantasy QB and not a WR RB[\i]?

Fixed. And yes.Edit to add: Wierd. Wonder why one of my italics worked and the second one doesn't.

I'm not sure. I tried putting in lower case letters but that didn't do it. I noticed this problem in another thread today well. I've got a theory about its origin, but I'm not sure if this really is new or not. I'll ping Keith.

Let's see what happens if I take out the first italics. Nope, didn't help. Ok, how about the strikethrough immediately before it? Nope, didn't help either. Ah well. I give up.

/ not \

 

[Crimedogg32]

I know Cooley can (or atleast could the last couple of years) in yahoo play TE and RB since he was an H-Back

 

[wannabee]

If Matt Jones were solely listed at QB, would he then be a fantasy QB and not a WR?

This brings up an interesting question. Can an NFL team legally list say Matt Jones at QB but line him up at WR extensively?

why not?Rod Smith was, IIRC, the team's emergency QB and he is listed as a WR.

I think we will see more and more of this. Off the top of my head, I can see the same situation for:Battle

Crayton

Brad Smith

Reggie McNeal

Now, to me the tough one, who has not been brought up yet is Seneca Wallace. I have heard that the Seahawks might use him at WR more if they can find a veteran backup QB. I could see Wallace being an issue where players scoring in different ways than their normal position get extra points. For instance, a RB scoring more points for a TD pass.

 

[Mooks77]

Then maybe we should see Mike Vrabel listed in the WR rankings for this year?

 

[jestertj]

We always just go with their primary listed position. If it was ever in question, all the owners my league have been friends for quite some time, so we'd just take a quick vote. The only time it was ever discussed was when Jim Kliensasser was listed as a FB/TE earlier when Denny Green was still in Minny. One of our owners wanted to draft him as a backup TE and wanted to make sure he could start him there without causing any problems.

 

[joffer]

If Matt Jones were solely listed at QB, would he then be a fantasy QB and not a WR?

This brings up an interesting question. Can an NFL team legally list say Matt Jones at QB but line him up at WR extensively?

why not?Rod Smith was, IIRC, the team's emergency QB and he is listed as a WR.

I think we will see more and more of this. Off the top of my head, I can see the same situation for:Battle

Crayton

Brad Smith

Reggie McNeal

Now, to me the tough one, who has not been brought up yet is Seneca Wallace. I have heard that the Seahawks might use him at WR more if they can find a veteran backup QB. I could see Wallace being an issue where players scoring in different ways than their normal position get extra points. For instance, a RB scoring more points for a TD pass.

Michael Robinson is another

 

[Rovers]

I have been lobbying (with no success) for a new player listing for hybrid DE/LB's in the IDP world. At least, I've been soliciting opinions on the topic.

My leagues use the NFL.com site as the authority in determining what position a player gets listed under. There are several significant benefits to this. The biggest benefit is that it avoids disputes as to what position a player should be listed under. The second thing is that it's based in fact.... NFL teams themselves have to supply the depth chart.

I see this listing issue as much more of a problem in IDP leagues than it does regarding offensive players. We've seen slash players before, but they are fairly unusual. As more and more teams go to flexable 3-4 (loosely) based defenses, it's a bigger problem, IMO.

Oh, and it me off to no end that I don't get points for Vrabel's TD catches too. Different subject.

 

[GregR_2]

Oh, and it me off to no end that I don't get points for Vrabel's TD catches too. Different subject.

Indeed a hijack, but I have never understood leagues that don't give points for everything a player does, unless there is a team-based unit that gets dibs on the stat. If our QBs tackle a guy they get the tackle points same as an IDP would. The only leagues I'm in where that isn't the case is where we have a special teams unit that includes kick/punt returns, in which case individual players don't get the points for them, just the team-based unit does.

 

[-OZ-]

Some leagues go by FBG's lineups, so it would be great if you decided this for us.

 

[-OZ-]

Oh, and it me off to no end that I don't get points for Vrabel's TD catches too. Different subject.

Indeed a hijack, but I have never understood leagues that don't give points for everything a player does, unless there is a team-based unit that gets dibs on the stat. If our QBs tackle a guy they get the tackle points same as an IDP would. The only leagues I'm in where that isn't the case is where we have a special teams unit that includes kick/punt returns, in which case individual players don't get the points for them, just the team-based unit does.

Aside from the whole ST unit thing, good posting.