Reggie Bush PPR value going forward (1 Viewer)

[dmac37]

Before the injury last year he was at the top of PPR leagues.

How serious is the injury, seems to be conflicting reports.

With all the P. Thomas love and the injuries to Bush how cheap can he be had for? Any trades involving Bush to get an idea of his value or what draft pick would he be worth?

 

[bucsbaby]

I'm a R Bush owner and I would not trade him at this point. The potential reward (I play in .5 ppr league) is worth the risk imo.

 

[KellysHeroes]

I'm a R Bush owner and I would not trade him at this point. The potential reward (I play in .5 ppr league) is worth the risk imo.

Same thing for me... I'm very luckly that I was able to acquire Thomas in every league I had Bush in... and thats about 3 or 4 leagues. I even paid a high price for PT in a couple but it was worth it now. I have little interest in Trading either one, Bush / Thomas is going to be a great RB Duo for a while.

 

[the_sig]

Just as a point of reference, I went to the Pierre Thomas owner to see if I could get him about a month ago. He wasn't interested in moving Pierre, but was more than willing to move Reggie. This was a competitive 14 team league. It is PPR, however, RB's get 0 PPR. I have a bunch of picks and am in rebuilding mode. This was his bottom line price (we haggled back and forth a bit) the 1.08, 1.09 & 2.02. I ended up passing. I posted this in the AC forum back then with pretty much equal responses for and against, so I imagine it was pretty close to fair value.

 

[ffwebster]

In a .05 PPR league, I moved Bush and Santonio Holmes for Frank Gore and Matt Jones, and I am very pleased with it..

 

[gianmarco]

In a .05 PPR league

.05? Might as well be non-ppr, right?

 

[ffwebster]

my bad, 0.5 PPR.... lol

In a .05 PPR league

.05? Might as well be non-ppr, right?

 

[LBH]

I like Pierre over Reggie going forward. I still think Reggie is going to be a productive player in PPR but I think his ceiling is severely limited with Thomas around(who is also a pretty good reciever)

 

[KellysHeroes]

I like Pierre over Reggie going forward. I still think Reggie is going to be a productive player in PPR but I think his ceiling is severely limited with Thomas around(who is also a pretty good reciever)

A lot of people will be taking Thomas high in the drafts this yr....

 

[Holy Schneikes]

Folks should have sold high last year (when I told them to at the beginning of the season).

He's not a good RB. He's a good return guy and situational back (maybe - though I'm not really convinced a lot of other backs couldn't do as well even in his "wheelhouse"). The free pass due to draft status has expired and the team will no longer feel obligated to use him as a feature back. He'll still do some things, but his fantasy points will decrease as his opportunity decreases (this has already begun before the injury). Massive numbers of opportunities were the only thing keeping his fantasy value high, and with those gone, he will struggle to be startable.

 

[az_prof]

I am a Pierre Thomas owner and like Thomas, but I don't agree with people who want to put the RIP tag on Bush. He isn't the best thing since Marshall Faulk like the hype coming out of USC suggested, but he is a very good receiving back and he belongs in the NFL. He will continue to play the role he has the last couple of years, as long as he is healthy. If he has been productive in your league scoring, he will be again this coming year.

 

[jurb26]

Just drafted Bush at 4.09 (10 team league) in a PPR dynasty. I'm rather pleased. Still don't quite understand all the animosity some people have towards the guy. Sure he was over-hyped as a RB, but there is no questioning his ability as a playmaker and he is a huge asset to the NO offense.

 

[moderated]

Folks should have sold high last year (when I told them to at the beginning of the season).

He's not a good RB. He's a good return guy and situational back (maybe - though I'm not really convinced a lot of other backs couldn't do as well even in his "wheelhouse"). The free pass due to draft status has expired and the team will no longer feel obligated to use him as a feature back. He'll still do some things, but his fantasy points will decrease as his opportunity decreases (this has already begun before the injury). Massive numbers of opportunities were the only thing keeping his fantasy value high, and with those gone, he will struggle to be startable.

the bolded statement isnt' true.He only played 6 games before injury. When he came back he was still injured.

Games

1)22 touches

2)17 touches

3)29 touches

4)15 touches

5)19 touches

6)17 touches

Average = 19.83

He was actually getting more touches then ever this season before injuries derailed his season.

 

[stewartcjae]

Folks should have sold high last year (when I told them to at the beginning of the season).

He's not a good RB. He's a good return guy and situational back (maybe - though I'm not really convinced a lot of other backs couldn't do as well even in his "wheelhouse"). The free pass due to draft status has expired and the team will no longer feel obligated to use him as a feature back. He'll still do some things, but his fantasy points will decrease as his opportunity decreases (this has already begun before the injury). Massive numbers of opportunities were the only thing keeping his fantasy value high, and with those gone, he will struggle to be startable.

the bolded statement isnt' true.He only played 6 games before injury. When he came back he was still injured.

Games

1)22 touches

2)17 touches

3)29 touches

4)15 touches

5)19 touches

6)17 touches

Average = 19.83

He was actually getting more touches then ever this season before injuries derailed his season.

do not think less then 20 touches counts as massive oppertunties. Most people just hate on Bush because he was way over-hyped coming out and they cant understand that he doesnt have to be a good "real RB" to be a good asset/weapon for his team. His problem is staying healthy. If he can do that he should be top 10-15 ppr for quite a few years.

 

[moderated]

Folks should have sold high last year (when I told them to at the beginning of the season).

He's not a good RB. He's a good return guy and situational back (maybe - though I'm not really convinced a lot of other backs couldn't do as well even in his "wheelhouse"). The free pass due to draft status has expired and the team will no longer feel obligated to use him as a feature back. He'll still do some things, but his fantasy points will decrease as his opportunity decreases (this has already begun before the injury). Massive numbers of opportunities were the only thing keeping his fantasy value high, and with those gone, he will struggle to be startable.

the bolded statement isnt' true.He only played 6 games before injury. When he came back he was still injured.

Games

1)22 touches

2)17 touches

3)29 touches

4)15 touches

5)19 touches

6)17 touches

Average = 19.83

He was actually getting more touches then ever this season before injuries derailed his season.

do not think less then 20 touches counts as massive oppertunties. Most people just hate on Bush because he was way over-hyped coming out and they cant understand that he doesnt have to be a good "real RB" to be a good asset/weapon for his team. His problem is staying healthy. If he can do that he should be top 10-15 ppr for quite a few years.

I think some people are just zeroed in on RB carries when it's irrelevant where they get their touches, and in many leagues it's actually better if they get a lot of their touches from receptions.But the sticker with Bush is health, so far he hasn't been able to stay healthy and that is a real concern for him, but if he does stay healthy he's very solid.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

Associated Press

FORT WORTH, Texas -- New Orleans running back Reggie Bush figures the Saints are saying it's time for him to became the main guy.

That's what Bush read into the February release of Deuce McAllister, the franchise's all-time leading rusher with 6,069 yards.

"They're looking for me to be the guy back there," Bush said Sunday while attending the NASCAR Sprint Cup race at Texas Motor Speedway with Red Bull, one of his new sponsors.

Pierre Thomas led the Saints last year with 625 yards and nine touchdowns. Bush had 404 yards and two scores. That doesn't change Bush's outlook.

"By the moves that they're making, it definitely speaks volumes to me as to what I need to prepare myself for," Bush said.

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

 

[LBH]

http://www.nfl.com/news/story?id=09000d5d8...mp;confirm=true

Associated Press

FORT WORTH, Texas -- New Orleans running back Reggie Bush figures the Saints are saying it's time for him to became the main guy.

That's what Bush read into the February release of Deuce McAllister, the franchise's all-time leading rusher with 6,069 yards.

"They're looking for me to be the guy back there," Bush said Sunday while attending the NASCAR Sprint Cup race at Texas Motor Speedway with Red Bull, one of his new sponsors.

Pierre Thomas led the Saints last year with 625 yards and nine touchdowns. Bush had 404 yards and two scores. That doesn't change Bush's outlook.

"By the moves that they're making, it definitely speaks volumes to me as to what I need to prepare myself for," Bush said.

Copyright 2009 by The Associated Press

I think Reggie is in for a rude awakening. No doubt he will still be heavily involved in the offense, but I dont think it will be as a 3 down RB, but more of reciever/scatback which is what hes best suited for. If Pierre Thomas isnt the RB running between the tackles, I think its likely that another RB not named Reggie Bush will be

 

[gheemony]

Recent draft rumors have NO taking Wells at 14. I think he replaces Deuce well. Then what do Thomas/Bush owners do??

 

[Franchise Playa]

Recent draft rumors have NO taking Wells at 14. I think he replaces Deuce well. Then what do Thomas/Bush owners do??

More like what do Thomas owners do....Wells is a 2 down back anyway and Bush's role would be what its always been. The one in jeopardy here is Thomas imo, since Peyton has been talking about bringing in another back since early in the off-season.

 

[KellysHeroes]

Recent draft rumors have NO taking Wells at 14. I think he replaces Deuce well. Then what do Thomas/Bush owners do??

More like what do Thomas owners do....Wells is a 2 down back anyway and Bush's role would be what its always been. The one in jeopardy here is Thomas imo, since Peyton has been talking about bringing in another back since early in the off-season.

I doubt they draft Wells they have other needs like all types of Defensive holes. But I could see them drafting a Back early 2nd day.

 

[ratbast]

What has PThomas done wrong? I can't believe this guy didn't earn starter status, Bush or no Bush. How can anyone deny what Thomas has done? Umm He's good and I doubt Payton is worried enough to think starter on draft day. He might go rb on day 2 but I doubt RB is a priority.

 

[KellysHeroes]

What has PThomas done wrong? I can't believe this guy didn't earn starter status, Bush or no Bush. How can anyone deny what Thomas has done? Umm He's good and I doubt Payton is worried enough to think starter on draft day. He might go rb on day 2 but I doubt RB is a priority.

The one problem Payton may have w/ Thomas was his inability at the GL... which is what they need.

 

[Traders2001]

What has PThomas done wrong? I can't believe this guy didn't earn starter status, Bush or no Bush. How can anyone deny what Thomas has done? Umm He's good and I doubt Payton is worried enough to think starter on draft day. He might go rb on day 2 but I doubt RB is a priority.

The one problem Payton may have w/ Thomas was his inability at the GL... which is what they need.

I did nt see that last season. He was their best back around the goal line .I think drafting a RB would be a waste of a draft pick, they already have the best offense or one of the best in the league , if the had a good defense they would be a super bowl contender .I would say you draft defense , defense and defense until you have a indigestion of defense . Cause thats what they need.

 

[KellysHeroes]

What has PThomas done wrong? I can't believe this guy didn't earn starter status, Bush or no Bush. How can anyone deny what Thomas has done? Umm He's good and I doubt Payton is worried enough to think starter on draft day. He might go rb on day 2 but I doubt RB is a priority.

The one problem Payton may have w/ Thomas was his inability at the GL... which is what they need.

I did nt see that last season. He was their best back around the goal line .I think drafting a RB would be a waste of a draft pick, they already have the best offense or one of the best in the league , if the had a good defense they would be a super bowl contender .I would say you draft defense , defense and defense until you have a indigestion of defense . Cause thats what they need.

PT was stuffed all the time at the GL early last season... he did get better at it later on.

 

[Jeff Tefertiller]

What has PThomas done wrong? I can't believe this guy didn't earn starter status, Bush or no Bush. How can anyone deny what Thomas has done? Umm He's good and I doubt Payton is worried enough to think starter on draft day. He might go rb on day 2 but I doubt RB is a priority.

The one problem Payton may have w/ Thomas was his inability at the GL... which is what they need.

I did nt see that last season. He was their best back around the goal line .I think drafting a RB would be a waste of a draft pick, they already have the best offense or one of the best in the league , if the had a good defense they would be a super bowl contender .I would say you draft defense , defense and defense until you have a indigestion of defense . Cause thats what they need.

PT was stuffed all the time at the GL early last season... he did get better at it later on.

\Do you think the signing of Heath Evans (or possibly the return of Mike Bell) could help enough to enable the Saints to draft primarily on the defensive side of the ball?

 

[fruity pebbles]

Judging by the surgeries he's had already and his small frame, its my belief that his knees are well on their way to being shot.