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Reggie Bush to Texans...its official (1 Viewer)

Of course he is. The Texans want a gold mine for him in the event someone is interested in moving up to get Bush. What are they supposed to do, say we are going to draft Vince Young if he comes out, making the possibility to move down impossible?

 
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Its official, the Houston Texans have announced that Reggie Bush is going to be their man, pending he declares himself eligable. This is a sad day for us Domanick Davis fans, as it seems this talented back must search for a new team.
[/QUOTE]I'm not saying this won't happen. But it either will or it won't. This "story" does nothing to clarify the situation. What point is there for the Texans to reveal their intentions at this point if they really plan to draft him? What's the logic of that?But if they weren't planning on taking him, they could be trying to drive up the price for a trade, or they could be trying to scare people right behind them into trading up for the pick.

We don't know. We hear this crap every year. I don't know why it's even reported, certainly not as news anyway.

The first real indication of Houston's intentions will come on the day they have to decide about Carr's roster bonus in March.

 
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Dont feel bad....Davis will probably end up in New England next year in a rotation with Corey Dillon. Feel bad for Davis AND Dillon if it happens. Davis played at LSU under Nick Saban, and Belichick loves guys whove played well under Saban. Just throwing it out there as a possibility.

 
Dont feel bad....Davis will probably end up in New England next year in a rotation with Corey Dillon. Feel bad for Davis AND Dillon if it happens. Davis played at LSU under Nick Saban, and Belichick loves guys whove played well under Saban. Just throwing it out there as a possibility.
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Even if the Texans plan on keeping Bush, the NFL is moving toward utilizing multiple backs, so having Bush and Davis is not a bad thing from the Texans perspective, IMO.
 
Dont feel bad....Davis will probably end up in New England next year in a rotation with Corey Dillon. Feel bad for Davis AND Dillon if it happens. Davis played at LSU under Nick Saban, and Belichick loves guys whove played well under Saban. Just throwing it out there as a possibility.
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I would LOVE for the Patriots to trade for Dominick Davis. I'm a big fan of his playing style... he never goes down!
 
Without having hired a head coach yet - I find it hard to believe this decision has been made definite. Not saying it will not happen, but the new coach coming in - possibly Kubiak - will have a say who they draft - as well as Dan Reeves.

 
There are two good reasons for the Texans to announce this now. One is to make sure Bush knows he will be the #1 pick to ensure he declares his intention to turn pro (although I think his mind was already made up). And by announcing now, they hope to put an end to most of the talk on Houston radio shows, internet boards, and newspapers about taking the local hero (Young).

 
Dont feel bad....Davis will probably end up in New England next year in a rotation with Corey Dillon. Feel bad for Davis AND Dillon if it happens. Davis played at LSU under Nick Saban, and Belichick loves guys whove played well under Saban. Just throwing it out there as a possibility.
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Too much money has been paid to Dillon to see this happen. Nice :fishing: though.
 
Davis's contract is very reasonable considering his production and I would think at least a few GMs will be inquiring about what it would take get him. I wouldnt say he's screwed (yet).

 
I don't think Davis is tradeable...Houston can't afford the cap hit they would incur from trading him.

 
Excellent news as I have the 2007 1st round pick of the guy who has DD and the rest of his running backs are zeros. He has no 2006 pick either. :lmao: :lmao: :lmao:

 
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Dont feel bad....Davis will probably end up in New England next year in a rotation with Corey Dillon. Feel bad for Davis AND Dillon if it happens. Davis played at LSU under Nick Saban, and Belichick loves guys whove played well under Saban. Just throwing it out there as a possibility.
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Why would Houston trade Davis? There is no reason at all they would do that. Reggie Bush is not an everydown back no matter how good he turns out to be and he will be used as a decoy quite a bit. Davis still gets 12-18 touches a game if he's healthy which is a big if. His fantasy value stinks now but Houston WILL KEEP HIM because no one really knows how much punishment Bush can take, and he can be used in so many non conventional ways it's almost like he'll have his own position. He may be a flankerback getting 10 to 15 touches a game.
 
Dont feel bad....Davis will probably end up in New England next year in a rotation with Corey Dillon.  Feel bad for Davis AND Dillon if it happens.  Davis played at LSU under Nick Saban, and Belichick loves guys whove played well under Saban.  Just throwing it out there as a possibility.
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Why would Houston trade Davis? There is no reason at all they would do that. Reggie Bush is not an everydown back no matter how good he turns out to be and he will be used as a decoy quite a bit. Davis still gets 12-18 touches a game if he's healthy which is a big if. His fantasy value stinks now but Houston WILL KEEP HIM because no one really knows how much punishment Bush can take, and he can be used in so many non conventional ways it's almost like he'll have his own position. He may be a flankerback getting 10 to 15 touches a game.
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I agree it will hurt his value. But i dont think his value would stink. I dont like the idea of a #1 pick making huge money and not being the true #1 RB..I would look elsewhere if i was Houston.IMO White is my #1 pick in dynasty Drafts. I think he will impress big time at the combine and will go in the top 5...
 
Either way fantasy wise DD should outscore Bush...I want DD here in Indy.. :popcorn:
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The colts have no interest in a wimp like DD. He's hurt every year.
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I live in Indy and if Edge is gone trust me they will have alot of interest
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So in this scenario Houston trades a very good RB to the best team in their own division. Yeah, I can see that.
 
Maybe that will for DD to be what he should be to stay healthy all year....a 3rd down back.

 
FYI - it's not official until draft day. No matter how serious they sound about it.
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Exactly. This is the NFL where teams hold things close to the vest for a myriad of reasons. If I'm Houston I let the Bush rumor out just to see what I may be able to fetch for that #1 pick. A swap with the Jets at #4 and landing DeB Ferguson along with an additional draft pick or two wouldn't be the worst idea. It certainly worked out well for the Chargers a few years back.
 
Dont feel bad....Davis will probably end up in New England next year in a rotation with Corey Dillon.  Feel bad for Davis AND Dillon if it happens.  Davis played at LSU under Nick Saban, and Belichick loves guys whove played well under Saban.  Just throwing it out there as a possibility.
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Too much money has been paid to Dillon to see this happen. Nice :fishing: though.
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Why would monies paid to Dillon in the past have any bearing on the situation? :confused:

 
If the TExans have truly made up their mind on what they are doing with the #1 pick now, as opposed to exploring all of their options (i.e. trades etc.), then the entire front office should be fired and their stadium torn down.

 
If the TExans have truly made up their mind on what they are doing with the #1 pick now, as opposed to exploring all of their options (i.e. trades etc.), then the entire front office should be fired and their stadium torn down.
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I find this interesting since they are not allowed to discuss juniors until they declare. Even so it's a reasonable thing to expect.

 
Excellent news as I have the 2007 1st round pick of the guy who has DD and the rest of his running backs are zeros. He has no 2006 pick either.

:lmao: :lmao: :lmao:
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Wow, they should've mentioned that in the ESPN article.
 
Either way fantasy wise DD should outscore Bush...I want DD here in Indy.. :popcorn:
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The colts have no interest in a wimp like DD. He's hurt every year.
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I live in Indy and if Edge is gone trust me they will have alot of interest
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So in this scenario Houston trades a very good RB to the best team in their own division. Yeah, I can see that.
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That's unlikely, but I could see DD in NY if the Texans would take the Chiefs 4th-rounder for him.
 
If the TExans have truly made up their mind on what they are doing with the #1 pick now, as opposed to exploring all of their options (i.e. trades etc.), then the entire front office should be fired and their stadium torn down.
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Along those lines the "official public stance" from Charlie Casserly____________________________________________________________________

The second report said the Texans had decided they would take USC running back Reggie Bush, which was true before Vince Young's spectacular performance in the Rose Bowl. But the ESPN report also said that even if Young comes out early the Texans already have made up their minds to take Bush with the first pick.

Also not true. The Texans have not even begun their evaluation of Young because few thought he would leave the Longhorns a year early.

"It's premature to say anything until our new coaching staff gets in, and they are able to analyze our team, the draft and what happens in free agency," Texans general manager Charley Casserly said Saturday.

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http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/3572378.html

 
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No. It's not "official" until the commish walks up to the mic and announces RB as the first pick of the Houston Texans.The Texans need to trade this pick. They need OL and other help more than they need RB or VY, and they certainly don't need to start over again with a rookie qb, esp behind an awful OL. Carr is not the problem. It's hard to qb effectively lying on your back or running for your life. I say all this as a HUGE VY fan. If the Texans don't trade this pick, they'll continue to suck for a long, long time. They might anyway with Casserly making the picks.
 
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Per KFFL:

Texans | No decisions made on No. 1 pick yetSat, 7 Jan 2006 22:54:07 -0800John McClain, of the Houston Chronicle, reports contrary to an ESPN report, the Houston Texans have not yet made up their mind on who they will select with the No. 1 pick in the 2006 NFL Draft. The ESPN report said the Texans would draft USC RB Reggie Bush, even if Texas QB Vince Young heads to the NFL. The Texans have not even begun their evaluation of Young because few thought he would leave school a year early. "It's premature to say anything until our new coaching staff gets in, and they are able to analyze our team, the draft and what happens in free agency," Texans general manager Charley Casserly said Saturday, Jan. 7.
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you are flat stupid if you think the decision is made, wake up. You ever hear of trade leverage???????????????????????????????????

 
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you are flat stupid if you think the decision is made, wake up. You ever hear of trade leverage???????????????????????????????????
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And the unnecessarily attacking comment of the day...Relax, dude.

 
This is just me thinking outloud, but I have to wonder if the Bears experience with Ced Benson would keep the Texans from doing ANYTHING with Dom Davis if they do, in fact, draft Reggie Bush in April. I actually think that them drafting Bush would seriously hurt the values of both Bush AND Davis....not to mention throwing Morency's value down the toilet as well. I guess I could see the Texans moving Davis if somebody offered them a nice package for him, but if the Seahawks and Colts couldn't get a second rounder for Edge and SA, I doubt that. Accepting only a fourth rounder for Davis though, leaving yourselves with Bush and Morency (assuming Wells is gone as a UFA) seems a little crazy to me though when neither has proven anything at the NFL level....YET. Moving Davis to a RB-needy team for an offensive lineman though?! :thumbup: Just some crazy thoughts....

 
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This is just me thinking outloud, but I have to wonder if the Bears experience with Ced Benson would keep the Texans from doing ANYTHING with Dom Davis if they do, in fact, draft Reggie Bush in April. I actually think that them drafting Bush would seriously hurt the values of both Bush AND Davis....not to mention throwing Morency's value down the toilet as well. I guess I could see the Texans moving Davis if somebody offered them a nice package for him, but if the Seahawks and Colts couldn't get a second rounder for Edge and SA, I doubt that. Accepting only a fourth rounder for Davis though, leaving yourselves with Bush and Morency (assuming Wells is gone as a UFA) seems a little crazy to me though when neither has proven anything at the NFL level....YET. Moving Davis to a RB-needy team for an offensive lineman though?! :thumbup:

Just some crazy thoughts....
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That, combined with the fact that RB will not be an every down back in the NFL.
 
I think Bush and DD int he backfield will be awesome. It will keep the pressure off of David Carr. I think the Texans should still go after Reggie Wayne and go after him hard. With him and AJ on the same team and Bush and DD in the backfield, that could be a good team. I am still a fan of David Carr, I think he has a lot of talent and he will show that next season with a little more talent around him. The Texans still have a lot of holes to fill but if Kubiak signs on as the coach, his blocking schemes will make the Texans offensive line look like pro bowlers.

 
This is just me thinking outloud, but I have to wonder if the Bears experience with Ced Benson would keep the Texans from doing ANYTHING with Dom Davis if they do, in fact, draft Reggie Bush in April. I actually think that them drafting Bush would seriously hurt the values of both Bush AND Davis....not to mention throwing Morency's value down the toilet as well. I guess I could see the Texans moving Davis if somebody offered them a nice package for him, but if the Seahawks and Colts couldn't get a second rounder for Edge and SA, I doubt that. Accepting only a fourth rounder for Davis though, leaving yourselves with Bush and Morency (assuming Wells is gone as a UFA) seems a little crazy to me though when neither has proven anything at the NFL level....YET. Moving Davis to a RB-needy team for an offensive lineman though?! :thumbup:

Just some crazy thoughts....
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That, combined with the fact that RB will not be an every down back in the NFL.
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Yep. How does Bush go from 12-13 carries/game in college to becoming a 20-25 carries/game RB in the pros? I don't think it happens. Either that, or Bush is going to wear-down and/or become injury prone after a few seasons. I inherited the 1.01 pick in a dynasty league I just joined, and let's just say that I am VERY interested in looking at the potential for trading down out of that spot if the right offer comes along.... ;)
 
I just played the first year of a franchise on Madden and he went to the Cards in the offseason so I believe he'll end up there.

 
This is just me thinking outloud, but I have to wonder if the Bears experience with Ced Benson would keep the Texans from doing ANYTHING with Dom Davis if they do, in fact, draft Reggie Bush in April. I actually think that them drafting Bush would seriously hurt the values of both Bush AND Davis....not to mention throwing Morency's value down the toilet as well. I guess I could see the Texans moving Davis if somebody offered them a nice package for him, but if the Seahawks and Colts couldn't get a second rounder for Edge and SA, I doubt that. Accepting only a fourth rounder for Davis though, leaving yourselves with Bush and Morency (assuming Wells is gone as a UFA) seems a little crazy to me though when neither has proven anything at the NFL level....YET. Moving Davis to a RB-needy team for an offensive lineman though?! :thumbup:

Just some crazy thoughts....
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That, combined with the fact that RB will not be an every down back in the NFL.
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Yep. How does Bush go from 12-13 carries/game in college to becoming a 20-25 carries/game RB in the pros? I don't think it happens. Either that, or Bush is going to wear-down and/or become injury prone after a few seasons. I inherited the 1.01 pick in a dynasty league I just joined, and let's just say that I am VERY interested in looking at the potential for trading down out of that spot if the right offer comes along.... ;)
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I swear I'm going to have to post this right into the beginning of every Bush thread for all these new people that buy into this complete myth that Bush can't be an everydown back and only touches the ball 12-13 times a game.For the last time (actually probably not, because I'm sure more people will hop onto the not an every down back bandwagon without knowing anything about it so I'll have to repeat it for them too) REGGIE BUSH AVERAGED AS MANY TOUCHES PER GAME THIS YEAR AS SHAUN ALEXANDER AND LADAINIAN TOMLINSON DID. And he did it without any durability or injury problems whatsoever.

 
What are they supposed to do, say we are going to draft Vince Young if he comes out, making the possibility to move down impossible?
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Actually yes. If I were in Houston's position, I would not commit to any one player as to keep the possibility of trading down with anyone who may be interested in Vince Young alive. New York Jets, New Orleans and Tennessee may all be candidate to trade up if they know Houston may take him. Houston can trade down with Tennsee and STILL get Bush if they play their cards right. Look, they can trade spots with Tennessee and get an extra pick or two so that the Titans can draft Young. NY and NO need a QB an will want to be at the #2 spot to get the "leftover" Leinert. This leaves Bush going to Houston at #3. Swwet deal I say.
 
Houston Chronicle fan letter of the week paraphrasedThe Texans should trade Carr + DD to the Saints for their 2nd overall pick and draft both Bush + Young to build a future dynasty! :P

 
This is just me thinking outloud, but I have to wonder if the Bears experience with Ced Benson would keep the Texans from doing ANYTHING with Dom Davis if they do, in fact, draft Reggie Bush in April.  I actually think that them drafting Bush would seriously hurt the values of both Bush AND Davis....not to mention throwing Morency's value down the toilet as well.  I guess I could see the Texans moving Davis if somebody offered them a nice package for him, but if the Seahawks and Colts couldn't get a second rounder for Edge and SA, I doubt that.  Accepting only a fourth rounder for Davis though, leaving yourselves with Bush and Morency (assuming Wells is gone as a UFA) seems a little crazy to me though when neither has proven anything at the NFL level....YET.  Moving Davis to a RB-needy team for an offensive lineman though?!   :thumbup:

Just some crazy thoughts....
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That, combined with the fact that RB will not be an every down back in the NFL.
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Yep. How does Bush go from 12-13 carries/game in college to becoming a 20-25 carries/game RB in the pros? I don't think it happens. Either that, or Bush is going to wear-down and/or become injury prone after a few seasons. I inherited the 1.01 pick in a dynasty league I just joined, and let's just say that I am VERY interested in looking at the potential for trading down out of that spot if the right offer comes along.... ;)
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I swear I'm going to have to post this right into the beginning of every Bush thread for all these new people that buy into this complete myth that Bush can't be an everydown back and only touches the ball 12-13 times a game.For the last time (actually probably not, because I'm sure more people will hop onto the not an every down back bandwagon without knowing anything about it so I'll have to repeat it for them too) REGGIE BUSH AVERAGED AS MANY TOUCHES PER GAME THIS YEAR AS SHAUN ALEXANDER AND LADAINIAN TOMLINSON DID. And he did it without any durability or injury problems whatsoever.
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So...are you saying that catching a screen pass or an outlet pass puts the same wear and tear on your body as running between the tackles? Are you saying that RB has had a lot of carries between the tackles, esp up the gut?Carries per game in 2005:

S.A: 23.3 x 16 = 370

L.T: 21.2 x 16 = 339

R.B: 13.5 x 13 = 200

Is that difference insignificant?

I think Bush and DD int he backfield will be awesome. It will keep the pressure off of David Carr. I think the Texans should still go after Reggie Wayne and go after him hard. With him and AJ on the same team and Bush and DD in the backfield, that could be a good team.
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It all starts and ends with the O-Line.
 
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I swear I'm going to have to post this right into the beginning of every Bush thread for all these new people that buy into this complete myth that Bush can't be an everydown back and only touches the ball 12-13 times a game.For the last time (actually probably not, because I'm sure more people will hop onto the not an every down back bandwagon without knowing anything about it so I'll have to repeat it for them too) REGGIE BUSH AVERAGED AS MANY TOUCHES PER GAME THIS YEAR AS SHAUN ALEXANDER AND LADAINIAN TOMLINSON DID. And he did it without any durability or injury problems whatsoever.
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Huh? :confused: 9/3 @Hawaii W 63-17 12 86 7.2 9/17 Arkansas W 70-17 8 125 15.69/24 @Oregon W 45-13 20 122 6.110/1 @Arizona State W 38-28 17 158 9.3 10/8 Arizona W 42-21 14 110 7.9 10/15 @Notre Dame W 34-31 15 160 10.710/22 @Washington W 51-24 8 51 6.410/29 Washington St. W 55-13 17 97 5.711/5 Stanford W 51-21 12 113 9.411/12 @California W 35-10 17 82 4.811/19 Fresno State W 50-42 23 294 12.812/3 UCLA W 66-19 24 260 10.8The Rose Bowl @Texas L 41-38 13 82 6.3200 carries, or 15.4 per game.Shaun Alexander? 370 carries over 16 games (23.1 carries per game).LaDainian Tomlinson? 339 carries over 16 games (21.2 carries per game).Bush actually had more carries than I thought he did (15.4 vs. 12-13). However, to say that Bush "REGGIE BUSH AVERAGED AS MANY TOUCHES PER GAME THIS YEAR AS SHAUN ALEXANDER AND LADAINIAN TOMLINSON DID" is :bs:
 
I swear I'm going to have to post this right into the beginning of every Bush thread for all these new people that buy into this complete myth that Bush can't be an everydown back and only touches the ball 12-13 times a game.

For the last time (actually probably not, because I'm sure more people will hop onto the not an every down back bandwagon without knowing anything about it so I'll have to repeat it for them too) REGGIE BUSH AVERAGED AS MANY TOUCHES PER GAME THIS YEAR AS SHAUN ALEXANDER AND LADAINIAN TOMLINSON DID. And he did it without any durability or injury problems whatsoever.
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Huh? :confused: 9/3 @Hawaii W 63-17 12 86 7.2

9/17 Arkansas W 70-17 8 125 15.6

9/24 @Oregon W 45-13 20 122 6.1

10/1 @Arizona State W 38-28 17 158 9.3

10/8 Arizona W 42-21 14 110 7.9

10/15 @Notre Dame W 34-31 15 160 10.7

10/22 @Washington W 51-24 8 51 6.4

10/29 Washington St. W 55-13 17 97 5.7

11/5 Stanford W 51-21 12 113 9.4

11/12 @California W 35-10 17 82 4.8

11/19 Fresno State W 50-42 23 294 12.8

12/3 UCLA W 66-19 24 260 10.8

The Rose Bowl @Texas L 41-38 13 82 6.3

200 carries, or 15.4 per game.

Shaun Alexander? 370 carries over 16 games (23.1 carries per game).

LaDainian Tomlinson? 339 carries over 16 games (21.2 carries per game).

Bush actually had more carries than I thought he did (15.4 vs. 12-13). However, to say that Bush "REGGIE BUSH AVERAGED AS MANY TOUCHES PER GAME THIS YEAR AS SHAUN ALEXANDER AND LADAINIAN TOMLINSON DID" is :bs:
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Perhaps you should invest in a dictionary. "Touches" does not mean "Carries". Bush catches a lot of passes..and returns kicks.
 
I swear I'm going to have to post this right into the beginning of every Bush thread for all these new people that buy into this complete myth that Bush can't be an everydown back and only touches the ball 12-13 times a game.

For the last time (actually probably not, because I'm sure more people will hop onto the not an every down back bandwagon without knowing anything about it so I'll have to repeat it for them too) REGGIE BUSH AVERAGED AS MANY TOUCHES PER GAME THIS YEAR AS SHAUN ALEXANDER AND LADAINIAN TOMLINSON DID.  And he did it without any durability or injury problems whatsoever.
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Huh? :confused: 9/3 @Hawaii W 63-17 12 86 7.2

9/17 Arkansas W 70-17 8 125 15.6

9/24 @Oregon W 45-13 20 122 6.1

10/1 @Arizona State W 38-28 17 158 9.3

10/8 Arizona W 42-21 14 110 7.9

10/15 @Notre Dame W 34-31 15 160 10.7

10/22 @Washington W 51-24 8 51 6.4

10/29 Washington St. W 55-13 17 97 5.7

11/5 Stanford W 51-21 12 113 9.4

11/12 @California W 35-10 17 82 4.8

11/19 Fresno State W 50-42 23 294 12.8

12/3 UCLA W 66-19 24 260 10.8

The Rose Bowl @Texas L 41-38 13 82 6.3

200 carries, or 15.4 per game.

Shaun Alexander? 370 carries over 16 games (23.1 carries per game).

LaDainian Tomlinson? 339 carries over 16 games (21.2 carries per game).

Bush actually had more carries than I thought he did (15.4 vs. 12-13). However, to say that Bush "REGGIE BUSH AVERAGED AS MANY TOUCHES PER GAME THIS YEAR AS SHAUN ALEXANDER AND LADAINIAN TOMLINSON DID" is :bs:
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Perhaps you should invest in a dictionary. "Touches" does not mean "Carries". Bush catches a lot of passes..and returns kicks.
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So...are you saying that catching a screen pass or an outlet pass puts the same wear and tear on your body as running between the tackles? Are you saying that RB has had a lot of carries between the tackles, esp up the gut?

Carries per game in 2005:

S.A: 23.3 x 16 = 370

L.T: 21.2 x 16 = 339

R.B: 13.5 x 13 = 200

Is that difference insignificant?
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