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JACKSONVILLE, Fla. (AP) -- Reggie Williams started nearly every game as a rookie in 2004. He's been sliding down the depth chart ever since.

Now, he might be on his way out of Jacksonville.

The former first-round draft pick, selected ninth overall, was listed as the No. 5 receiver on the team's depth chart released Tuesday. It was a strong indication the Jaguars have nearly given up on Williams after three disappointing seasons.

"You can't surround any quarterback with inconsistency," first-year receivers coach Todd Monken said. "You can't have guys just running around, dropping balls, not at the right depth. The first thing here is getting guys that are consistent. I've never been around any passing game that's worth a damn if you can't be in the right spot all the time and catch it.

"It seems so simple, but somehow it hasn't been simple. It should be that simple: play your (butt) off, get in the right spot, catch the thing and we'll go from there. But for some reason, that's been hard."

The Jaguars ranked 24th in the league in passing last season. Part of the problem was that quarterback Byron Leftwich missed 10 games with a broken ankle, but an even bigger concern was the play of Williams, fellow first-round pick Matt Jones and Ernest Wilford.

The trio struggled trying to pick up the slack following Jimmy Smith's abrupt retirement. They combined to catch 129 passes for 1,783 yards and 10 touchdowns, but they also dropped countless passes and contributed significantly in two losses to division rival Houston.

The Jaguars responded in the offseason by signing free agent Dennis Northcutt to a five-year, $17 million contract that included a $4.5 million signing bonus. The team also drafted speedy receivers Mike Walker (third round) and John Broussard (seventh), making training camp as competitive as ever at the position.

"We have some speed guys, some guys that can stretch the field," Wilford said. "It's something (coach) Jack Del Rio wanted to bring to our nucleus. He definitely went out there and researched and brought some guys in that are capable of stretching the field and make big plays down the field."

Williams seemed unfazed by the changes.

"I don't see it as competition," he said. "I look at it as trying to be the best Reggie can be. As long as I do that I'll be where need to be. As long as I work on me and I'm on top of my game, everything will weed out for itself."

The weeding out part may come at Williams' expense.

Monken talked about his receiving corps for 15 minutes Tuesday and said little about Williams.

He praised Northcutt and fellow starter Wilford, who sustained a mild knee sprain in practice Tuesday but should be OK. He added that Charles Sharon was in the mix with the first-team offense.

Monken also said the 6-foot-6 Jones had found his niche as a slot receiver, creating mismatches for linebackers and safeties and giving Leftwich a big target down the middle.

And even though Walker was listed behind Williams on the depth chart, it may have been because Del Rio placed most of the rookies at the bottom of the list.

"He's got natural ball skills and a natural feel for route running," Monken said of Walker, who is still recovering from a knee injury sustained in college. "Once his knee fully comes around and he's able to practice fast all the time, I think he's going to develop into a heck of a player. When that is, I don't know."

Monken did say that Williams, who has 114 catches for 1,329 yards and five touchdowns in three seasons, was one of the team's best at running after the catch.

But will that be enough to keep him on the roster?

"You're trying to fit all the pieces in the right holes," Monken said. "Is that easy? No, but it's the way to become the most efficient. ... If they don't fit some role, I don't know how you keep them. Where do you play them? Where's their spot?"

 
This is a bummer, having talked with Reggie Williams on the Audible, he indicated that Dirk Koetter tried to recruit him to ASU and that they had a great relationship from the start. I know his new positional coach was also optimistic of a big season out of Reggie.

I would love to hear from homers about how camp has progressed? Has he just not making plays? Sluggish? Skittish?

 
This is a bummer, having talked with Reggie Williams on the Audible, he indicated that Dirk Koetter tried to recruit him to ASU and that they had a great relationship from the start. I know his new positional coach was also optimistic of a big season out of Reggie.

I would love to hear from homers about how camp has progressed? Has he just not making plays? Sluggish? Skittish?
It appears this hammerhead Todd Monken guy has a bug up his ### about Williams. Odds favor its a personality clash. Zero coaching experience at the NFL level. The Jags have changed OC's and WR coaches so much over the last few years. They are clueless. Williams is a slant pass type receiver yet they bulked him up the 1st year, then they tried to make him a deep threat and then last year they actually played to his strengths the 1st few weeks. After that worked well, they decided to go back to what doesn't work and added Garrabage as the QB to solidify the disasterous season. They have serious coaching problems down there. Hell, they gave a hack like Northcutt a 4.5 M signing bonus. For a guy thay even Cleveland didn't want. That's bad.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7Pgh0Mzo4

Can't understand why Monken hates Reggie. :pickle:

 
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This story is becoming old. This is poor way of trying to motivate a player(s) and if the Jacksonville Jags coaching staff truly think that some no name guys are better to start than their high draft picks...then they have no further to look than the mirror when they are given their papers. Either

A) They have done a poor job training/bringing along Williams & Jones

B) Have not put them in the right situations

C) The front office and coaching staff can't evaluate talent correctly

D) All the above

How do you have problems with two high 1st round draft pick WR's? Time to see what they (coaching staff) are not doing too and not just what the problem WR's are not doing. Can't be all the WR's fault, not when there is more than one with the same problem. I'm sure the WR's aren't helping as much, but it takes two to tango!

 
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This is a bummer, having talked with Reggie Williams on the Audible, he indicated that Dirk Koetter tried to recruit him to ASU and that they had a great relationship from the start. I know his new positional coach was also optimistic of a big season out of Reggie.

I would love to hear from homers about how camp has progressed? Has he just not making plays? Sluggish? Skittish?
It appears this hammerhead Todd Monken guy has a bug up his ### about Williams. Odds favor its a personality clash. Zero coaching experience at the NFL level. The Jags have changed OC's and WR coaches so much over the last few years. They are clueless. Williams is a slant pass type receiver yet they bulked him up the 1st year, then they tried to make him a deep threat and then last year they actually played to his strengths the 1st few weeks. After that worked well, they decided to go back to what doesn't work and added Garrabage as the QB to solidify the disasterous season. They have serious coaching problems down there. Hell, they gave a hack like Northcutt a 4.5 M signing bonus. For a guy thay even Cleveland didn't want. That's bad.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7Pgh0Mzo4

Can't understand why Monken hates Reggie. :cool:
Wait, I thought all the people on this board were clueless, the ones that didn't realize that "There is ZERO chance Reggie will be cut. There is a 100% chance he starts week 1." http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=7121917Now it's that darn NFL coach that is clueless, the one that's been actually watching Reggie in camp.

[inigo Montoya] You keep-a using that word. I do not think it-a means what you think it-a means [/inigo Montoya]

 
Basically this coaching staff is clueless. Case in point..THEY HIRED MEATHEAD when Minnesota finally had enough of his stupidity...as assistant HC/offense.

No continuity on offense as far a coaching. 3 OC's the last 3 years. New WR coach this year. New assistant WR coach this year. Look for another bad passing game unless the new OC is a genius.

 
This is a bummer, having talked with Reggie Williams on the Audible, he indicated that Dirk Koetter tried to recruit him to ASU and that they had a great relationship from the start. I know his new positional coach was also optimistic of a big season out of Reggie.

I would love to hear from homers about how camp has progressed? Has he just not making plays? Sluggish? Skittish?
It appears this hammerhead Todd Monken guy has a bug up his ### about Williams. Odds favor its a personality clash. Zero coaching experience at the NFL level. The Jags have changed OC's and WR coaches so much over the last few years. They are clueless. Williams is a slant pass type receiver yet they bulked him up the 1st year, then they tried to make him a deep threat and then last year they actually played to his strengths the 1st few weeks. After that worked well, they decided to go back to what doesn't work and added Garrabage as the QB to solidify the disasterous season. They have serious coaching problems down there. Hell, they gave a hack like Northcutt a 4.5 M signing bonus. For a guy thay even Cleveland didn't want. That's bad.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7Pgh0Mzo4

Can't understand why Monken hates Reggie. :rolleyes:
Wait, I thought all the people on this board were clueless, the ones that didn't realize that "There is ZERO chance Reggie will be cut. There is a 100% chance he starts week 1." http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=7121917Now it's that darn NFL coach that is clueless, the one that's been actually watching Reggie in camp.

[inigo Montoya] You keep-a using that word. I do not think it-a means what you think it-a means [/inigo Montoya]
That's exaclty what I said and exactly what is going to happen. At the same time, read my previous post. I am correct in my analysis. You should be paying me for this type of info. NICE JOB replacing the words 'a lot of people on this board are clueless' with 'all'. LAMER.
 
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This is a bummer, having talked with Reggie Williams on the Audible, he indicated that Dirk Koetter tried to recruit him to ASU and that they had a great relationship from the start. I know his new positional coach was also optimistic of a big season out of Reggie.

I would love to hear from homers about how camp has progressed? Has he just not making plays? Sluggish? Skittish?
It appears this hammerhead Todd Monken guy has a bug up his ### about Williams. Odds favor its a personality clash. Zero coaching experience at the NFL level. The Jags have changed OC's and WR coaches so much over the last few years. They are clueless. Williams is a slant pass type receiver yet they bulked him up the 1st year, then they tried to make him a deep threat and then last year they actually played to his strengths the 1st few weeks. After that worked well, they decided to go back to what doesn't work and added Garrabage as the QB to solidify the disasterous season. They have serious coaching problems down there. Hell, they gave a hack like Northcutt a 4.5 M signing bonus. For a guy thay even Cleveland didn't want. That's bad.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7Pgh0Mzo4

Can't understand why Monken hates Reggie. :mellow:
Wait, I thought all the people on this board were clueless, the ones that didn't realize that "There is ZERO chance Reggie will be cut. There is a 100% chance he starts week 1." http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=7121917Now it's that darn NFL coach that is clueless, the one that's been actually watching Reggie in camp.

[inigo Montoya] You keep-a using that word. I do not think it-a means what you think it-a means [/inigo Montoya]
That's exaclty what I said and exactly what is going to happen. At the same time, read my previous post. I am correct in my analysis. You should be paying me for this type of info. NICE JOB replacing the words 'a lot of people on this board are clueless' with 'all'. LAMER.
Hey, whaddya expect, I'm clueless. :shrug:

 
This is a bummer, having talked with Reggie Williams on the Audible, he indicated that Dirk Koetter tried to recruit him to ASU and that they had a great relationship from the start. I know his new positional coach was also optimistic of a big season out of Reggie.

I would love to hear from homers about how camp has progressed? Has he just not making plays? Sluggish? Skittish?
It appears this hammerhead Todd Monken guy has a bug up his ### about Williams. Odds favor its a personality clash. Zero coaching experience at the NFL level. The Jags have changed OC's and WR coaches so much over the last few years. They are clueless. Williams is a slant pass type receiver yet they bulked him up the 1st year, then they tried to make him a deep threat and then last year they actually played to his strengths the 1st few weeks. After that worked well, they decided to go back to what doesn't work and added Garrabage as the QB to solidify the disasterous season. They have serious coaching problems down there. Hell, they gave a hack like Northcutt a 4.5 M signing bonus. For a guy thay even Cleveland didn't want. That's bad.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7Pgh0Mzo4

Can't understand why Monken hates Reggie. :pickle:
Wait, I thought all the people on this board were clueless, the ones that didn't realize that "There is ZERO chance Reggie will be cut. There is a 100% chance he starts week 1." http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=7121917Now it's that darn NFL coach that is clueless, the one that's been actually watching Reggie in camp.

[inigo Montoya] You keep-a using that word. I do not think it-a means what you think it-a means [/inigo Montoya]
no doubt none of these guys would be any better with the best coach around...yea its mike tices fault! :confused:
 
no doubt none of these guys would be any better with the best coach around...yea its mike tices fault! :confused:
:pickle: Defending the stupidity of Mike Tice. It's not his fault .....yet, but give this bum some time. Minnesota wasn't decimated in a day.
 
This is a non-story. Reggie has been merely average during camp, but there's no indication that he'll be cut.

Northcutt and Walker have been the standouts. They'll both make the team.

Jones has been okay and is expected to make the team.

Wilford is the one at risk of losing his roster spot. John Broussard could beat him out.

 
This is a bummer, having talked with Reggie Williams on the Audible, he indicated that Dirk Koetter tried to recruit him to ASU and that they had a great relationship from the start. I know his new positional coach was also optimistic of a big season out of Reggie.

I would love to hear from homers about how camp has progressed? Has he just not making plays? Sluggish? Skittish?
It appears this hammerhead Todd Monken guy has a bug up his ### about Williams. Odds favor its a personality clash. Zero coaching experience at the NFL level. The Jags have changed OC's and WR coaches so much over the last few years. They are clueless. Williams is a slant pass type receiver yet they bulked him up the 1st year, then they tried to make him a deep threat and then last year they actually played to his strengths the 1st few weeks. After that worked well, they decided to go back to what doesn't work and added Garrabage as the QB to solidify the disasterous season. They have serious coaching problems down there. Hell, they gave a hack like Northcutt a 4.5 M signing bonus. For a guy thay even Cleveland didn't want. That's bad.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7Pgh0Mzo4

Can't understand why Monken hates Reggie. :shock:
Wait, I thought all the people on this board were clueless, the ones that didn't realize that "There is ZERO chance Reggie will be cut. There is a 100% chance he starts week 1." http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=7121917Now it's that darn NFL coach that is clueless, the one that's been actually watching Reggie in camp.

[inigo Montoya] You keep-a using that word. I do not think it-a means what you think it-a means [/inigo Montoya]
That's exaclty what I said and exactly what is going to happen. At the same time, read my previous post. I am correct in my analysis. You should be paying me for this type of info. NICE JOB replacing the words 'a lot of people on this board are clueless' with 'all'. LAMER.
You still think Williams is going to start game 1, and has zero chance of being cut? :hot:
 
I would not be surprised to see Reggie stuck on the bench. He's been a total disappointment except for the start of last season, and would earn more recognition as a bust were it not for the fact that he was sandwiched in between Charles Rogers & Mike Williams. Glad to see the coaching staff finally recognizes this.

And as fun as he is to mock, Mike Tice is an excellent line coach. It seems like most of the time, actually, former head coaches turn out to be studs as coordinators or position coaches. Tice (offensive line), Mike Martz (offense), **** LeBeau (defense), and Marty Mornhinweg (offensive playcalling) come to mind, with Jim Haslett being the only exception I can think of. Heck, this may even be true of failed coordinators who go back to position coaching - Bob Slowik (Denver's defensive backs coach) was a disaster as Green Bay's DC but helped develop Champ Bailey into what you see today (people forget, in Washington he was never THIS good).

I don't know if I like any Jags WRs, but I like Reggie even less than most.

-Josh

 
I would not be surprised to see Reggie stuck on the bench. He's been a total disappointment except for the start of last season, and would earn more recognition as a bust were it not for the fact that he was sandwiched in between Charles Rogers & Mike Williams. Glad to see the coaching staff finally recognizes this.I don't know if I like any Jags WRs, but I like Reggie even less than most.-Josh
I must respectfully and wholeheartedly disagree. Was he a bust in that he shouldn't have been picked that early? Probably. But I still think he's an NFL-caliber WR. I also think that if the Jags cut him, he would not be out of work for long.
 
no doubt none of these guys would be any better with the best coach around...yea its mike tices fault! :lmao:
:( Defending the stupidity of Mike Tice. It's not his fault .....yet, but give this bum some time. Minnesota wasn't decimated in a day.
the stupidity is associating mike tice with the receivers or even bringing him up, the guy is an o-line coach and you saw them run the ball last year. And wide receiver coaches (or assistant wide receiver coaches :wall: )come and go on every single team, what that has to do with anything I don't know. bad qb play and bad wide outs is the problem on this team not the coaching.
 
Jaguars | R. Williams works as a returner

Fri, 10 Aug 2007 14:18:16 -0700

Michael C. Wright, of the Florida Times-Union, reports Jacksonville Jaguars WR Reggie Williams fielded punts for the scout team during morning practice Thursday, Aug. 9.

 
WR - Ernest Wilford, Matt Jones, Roosevelt Kiser, John Broussard, D'Juan WoodsOkay, please let the fabrications begin. Jack Del Rio refuses to put rookies at the top of any depth charts, so take this with a grain of salt. Realistically, Wilford is definitely on the bubble, and the knee injury that he suffered yesterday can't help his case. At this point, Jones would be on top out of this group with Broussard, Wilford, Woods, and Kiser rounding it out.

WR- Dennis Northcutt, Charles Sharon, Reggie Williams , Jimmy Farris, Mike Walker

Interesting. This wide receiver position certainly seems loaded in comparison to the other spot. Based on camp production, this would read: Northcutt, Walker, Williams, Farris, and Sharon, but your likely opening day starter will be Reggie Williams. Each of the five have a legitimate shot at making the roster, but unfortunately either Sharon or Farris, or both will not make it.
 
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As a note to someone who is unfamiliar with Vic Ketchman, he is a jaguars employee first and foremost and has run into trouble with fans both recently and in the past for propping up respective values of players that simply are not doing so hot.

Case in point, in a recent practice, several respected members of the message board- some of which run the Jaguars Scout site and write for MVN- noticed Garrard having a dismal practice. Not that hard to tell to be perfectly honest, as he was underthrowing receivers and his throws were not crisp and precise by any means. Vic, in his wrap up article mentioned that Garrard was sharp, "razor sharp" to be accurate and has gotten a ton of flak for that.

But at the end of the day, he is a Jaguars' employee. And he does what the boss says. If that means propping up the value of players then that is what he does. I find this to be a similar situation to what is going on with Reggie Williams. Any Jaguars fan knows that Reggie is doing just fine at camp and will not be cut but Vic is insistent upon this notion- perhaps to drive up the relative value of Ernest Wilford, who by all accounts is the one on the bubble.

:lol:

And PLEASE READ this thread: Reggie's Last Days With the Jags?

 
Reggie must be a horrible practice player because of all the WRs on the Jags roster he IMHO is the most talented and the best all around WR.

Reggie will get picked up in a second by another NFL team if he's cut, but as others have stated I'd be surprised if he's cut.

 
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Yeah, he proved how bad he sucked the 1st 4 weeks of the season last year (his 3rd year) when he was among the league leaders at WR. Then Garrabage weaseled his way into the starting lineup and ALL the other WR's turned in pro bowl seasons as Reggie floundered. Get a clue.

 
Don't believe the nonsense.

Williams and Jones are the favorites to start. Northcutt will get a lot of work out of the slot. Walker will be groomed to become a future starter. Broussard and Wilford will battle for the final roster spot.

 
This is a bummer, having talked with Reggie Williams on the Audible, he indicated that Dirk Koetter tried to recruit him to ASU and that they had a great relationship from the start. I know his new positional coach was also optimistic of a big season out of Reggie.

I would love to hear from homers about how camp has progressed? Has he just not making plays? Sluggish? Skittish?
It appears this hammerhead Todd Monken guy has a bug up his ### about Williams. Odds favor its a personality clash. Zero coaching experience at the NFL level. The Jags have changed OC's and WR coaches so much over the last few years. They are clueless. Williams is a slant pass type receiver yet they bulked him up the 1st year, then they tried to make him a deep threat and then last year they actually played to his strengths the 1st few weeks. After that worked well, they decided to go back to what doesn't work and added Garrabage as the QB to solidify the disasterous season. They have serious coaching problems down there. Hell, they gave a hack like Northcutt a 4.5 M signing bonus. For a guy thay even Cleveland didn't want. That's bad.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_w7Pgh0Mzo4

Can't understand why Monken hates Reggie. :goodposting:
Wait, I thought all the people on this board were clueless, the ones that didn't realize that "There is ZERO chance Reggie will be cut. There is a 100% chance he starts week 1." http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...t&p=7121917Now it's that darn NFL coach that is clueless, the one that's been actually watching Reggie in camp.

[inigo Montoya] You keep-a using that word. I do not think it-a means what you think it-a means [/inigo Montoya]
That's exaclty what I said and exactly what is going to happen. At the same time, read my previous post. I am correct in my analysis. You should be paying me for this type of info. NICE JOB replacing the words 'a lot of people on this board are clueless' with 'all'. LAMER.
I understand you not taken kindly to being called out.... but.... that is not "exactly what is going to happen". To say there is a 100% chance of him starting when he is now listed at #5 and saying thats it exactly... is absurd.

While I dont doubt that you believe he will start - to use the word "exactly" and "100%" at this moment is simply unbelievable.

 
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This is a non-story. Reggie has been merely average during camp, but there's no indication that he'll be cut.Northcutt and Walker have been the standouts. They'll both make the team. Jones has been okay and is expected to make the team. Wilford is the one at risk of losing his roster spot. John Broussard could beat him out.
How much is Williams making in salary?
 
This is a non-story. Reggie has been merely average during camp, but there's no indication that he'll be cut.Northcutt and Walker have been the standouts. They'll both make the team. Jones has been okay and is expected to make the team. Wilford is the one at risk of losing his roster spot. John Broussard could beat him out.
How much is Williams making in salary?
I don't recall the exaxt number but Matt Jones and Wilford would both provide more cap benefit if cut. I wanna say it around 650k.
 
I've been to several practices here in Jax and I was quite surprised to see RW listed as 3rd team and hear talk of him not making the squad. Something weird is going on with the current Jags WR depth chart.

-Northcutt has looked really good most of the time, but any Browns fan will tell you that he always looks good right up until he drops the ball. He hasn't had that many drops but there has been enough for the questions about his hands to persist.

-Wilford has been, okay? I mean he hasn't looked bad but nothing I've seen out of him in any way made me think he was a lock to even make the squad much less become a starter.

-Mike Walker looks good. The only real questions remaining about this guy is can he do it in a real NFL game and can his knee last. He's looked about as good as a rookie can look a this point in his NFL career.

-Reggie Williams has been solid. He's had a few bad drops, but overall his energy is high and he's practicing with quickness and focus. The only two guys I would even consider as outperforming him would be Walker and Northcutt.

-Matt Jones needs his own thread to discuss his situation but short version is he's lazy, he's hurt way too often, he doesn't like contact, but he is still quite gifted.

-Sharon, Broussard and others have looked good as well and could make the roster with strong showing in preseason. But the Williams thing is just weird. There's no way I'd rank him worse than 3rd best WR and he's listed as third string.

 
I've been to several practices here in Jax and I was quite surprised to see RW listed as 3rd team and hear talk of him not making the squad. Something weird is going on with the current Jags WR depth chart. -Northcutt has looked really good most of the time, but any Browns fan will tell you that he always looks good right up until he drops the ball. He hasn't had that many drops but there has been enough for the questions about his hands to persist.-Wilford has been, okay? I mean he hasn't looked bad but nothing I've seen out of him in any way made me think he was a lock to even make the squad much less become a starter.-Mike Walker looks good. The only real questions remaining about this guy is can he do it in a real NFL game and can his knee last. He's looked about as good as a rookie can look a this point in his NFL career.-Reggie Williams has been solid. He's had a few bad drops, but overall his energy is high and he's practicing with quickness and focus. The only two guys I would even consider as outperforming him would be Walker and Northcutt. -Matt Jones needs his own thread to discuss his situation but short version is he's lazy, he's hurt way too often, he doesn't like contact, but he is still quite gifted.-Sharon, Broussard and others have looked good as well and could make the roster with strong showing in preseason. But the Williams thing is just weird. There's no way I'd rank him worse than 3rd best WR and he's listed as third string.
Good stuff. Thanks. :rolleyes:
 
I've been to several practices here in Jax and I was quite surprised to see RW listed as 3rd team and hear talk of him not making the squad. Something weird is going on with the current Jags WR depth chart.
Is there a reason Williams was returning punts on the scout team? Starting to get a tad worried about the incosistent reports we're getting on this guy.... something isn't right.
 
This story is becoming old. This is poor way of trying to motivate a player(s) and if the Jacksonville Jags coaching staff truly think that some no name guys are better to start than their high draft picks...then they have no further to look than the mirror when they are given their papers. Either

A) They have done a poor job training/bringing along Williams & Jones

B) Have not put them in the right situations

C) The front office and coaching staff can't evaluate talent correctly

D) All the above

How do you have problems with two high 1st round draft pick WR's? Time to see what they (coaching staff) are not doing too and not just what the problem WR's are not doing. Can't be all the WR's fault, not when there is more than one with the same problem. I'm sure the WR's aren't helping as much, but it takes two to tango!
Sounds like the Detroilet Lions Syndrome
 
I've been to several practices here in Jax and I was quite surprised to see RW listed as 3rd team and hear talk of him not making the squad. Something weird is going on with the current Jags WR depth chart.
Is there a reason Williams was returning punts on the scout team? Starting to get a tad worried about the incosistent reports we're getting on this guy.... something isn't right.
Not only was he returning punts, but at the exact same time two fields over (the Jags have three fields side by side by side) they were working out three FA WRs. They would eventually sign Chris Jackson from that group. The reason it was so odd is that almost every FA workout they do is away from the eyes of the media and the fans. I'm not saying it was trying to send Reggie a message...it was just one more odd occurance when it comes to the Jaguar WR situation.BTW, the fact that they cut Jackson the day after they signed him indicates to me that they saw enough from either Jones and/or Wilford in Thursday night's practice to feel good enough about one or both of their availability to not need the warm body that Jackson would provide. They have more than enough options at WR to think that a street FA is going to come in at this time and actually compete for a roster spot. That's why I think that it was coincidental that they were working out as Reggie fielded punts with the so-called scout team.

Anyone care to prematurely predict the WRs that the Jags will keep?

If they keep five, I say (in no particular order): Northcutt, Walker, Jones, Sharon, Wilford

If they keep six, I say (in no particular order): Northcutt, Walker, Jones, Sharon, Wilford and Broussard

I am open to be proven wrong, but I think it will take some stellar performances in the first three preseason games for Reggie to make the cut. He is just so inconsistent with both his hands and his route running. He is a total possesion WR that is limited to WR screens and quick slants. He has trouble keeping his feet when he catches the ball on the move. That takes away one of his top assets...his RAC ability. Williams vs. Wilford...that is what this roster battle comes down to, IMO. Keep an eye on the performances in relation to each other and I think the picture will clear up.

 
Anyone care to prematurely predict the WRs that the Jags will keep?If they keep five, I say (in no particular order): Northcutt, Walker, Jones, Sharon, WilfordIf they keep six, I say (in no particular order): Northcutt, Walker, Jones, Sharon, Wilford and BroussardI am open to be proven wrong, but I think it will take some stellar performances in the first three preseason games for Reggie to make the cut. He is just so inconsistent with both his hands and his route running. He is a total possesion WR that is limited to WR screens and quick slants. He has trouble keeping his feet when he catches the ball on the move. That takes away one of his top assets...his RAC ability. Williams vs. Wilford...that is what this roster battle comes down to, IMO. Keep an eye on the performances in relation to each other and I think the picture will clear up.
I could be totally wrong, I still think that this is just a big motivational ploy and I wonder if there's a personality clash. I wonder if they brought in Monken to play the bad cop and light a fire under Williams/Jones.Williams, Northcutt, Jones,Walker, Brousard with Sharon on practice squad. If they're going to cut either of their 1st round disappointments, I wish it was Jones.Remember, if it's Williams vs Wilford, Wilford costs more than double in salary(1.3 Mil vs. 595K).As far as the free agent WRs, I wouldn't read anything into it either way. They signed Jackson when both Wilford (knee) and Jones (hamstring) were missing practice. They just wanted a training camp body. FWIW, both Wilford and Jones are game-time decisions.
 
Reggie must be a horrible practice player because of all the WRs on the Jags roster he IMHO is the most talented and the best all around WR.Reggie will get picked up in a second by another NFL team if he's cut, but as others have stated I'd be surprised if he's cut.
This is on the money. If he is cut he will not clear the WW. That said he will not be cut!
 
Reggie must be a horrible practice player because of all the WRs on the Jags roster he IMHO is the most talented and the best all around WR.

Reggie will get picked up in a second by another NFL team if he's cut, but as others have stated I'd be surprised if he's cut.
This is on the money. If he is cut he will not clear the WW. That said he will not be cut!
Isn't it the usual practice to showcase a player you'd like to trade? :potkettle: (don't know, just asking)
 
Reggie must be a horrible practice player because of all the WRs on the Jags roster he IMHO is the most talented and the best all around WR.

Reggie will get picked up in a second by another NFL team if he's cut, but as others have stated I'd be surprised if he's cut.
This is on the money. If he is cut he will not clear the WW. That said he will not be cut!
Isn't it the usual practice to showcase a player you'd like to trade? :confused: (don't know, just asking)
:yes: It could very well be that the Jags are inflating Wilford's value to prospective teams and in fact trying to trade him. as for Williams, after seeing what has been written about him lately, his value would be at a perceived low. No way they would be getting good value for him at the moment.
 
Not sure Wilfords value can be inflated.

There is plenty of film and history on the guy to supercede any depth chart trickery.

Teams may be interested in Ernest, but it wont because of some subterfuge performed this preseason by the Jags.

 
Not sure Wilfords value can be inflated.There is plenty of film and history on the guy to supercede any depth chart trickery. Teams may be interested in Ernest, but it wont because of some subterfuge performed this preseason by the Jags.
Sure there is. But showing off his improved abilities may just convince a team to look into it. And thats what they're after. Cant hurt to get something out of a lose-lose situation. :tfp:
 
Personally none of the Jax WRs have ever "wowed" me. Nothing personal, but I just don't think they're all that good. Sure, they've each shown a little flash of brilliance every once in a blue moon, but nothing consistent. Perhaps it's their fault, perhaps it's Leftwich's fault, or more likely both. Either way, from a fantasy perspective, I try and avoid them if I can...

 
Not sure Wilfords value can be inflated.There is plenty of film and history on the guy to supercede any depth chart trickery. Teams may be interested in Ernest, but it wont because of some subterfuge performed this preseason by the Jags.
Sure there is. But showing off his improved abilities may just convince a team to look into it. And thats what they're after. Cant hurt to get something out of a lose-lose situation. :goodposting:
Im not convinced. It seems like a used car sales pitch. The film doesnt lie. Sounds like a desperate attempt that just maybe there is an NFL management office filled with suckers.I just seriously doubt that is the plan. I think the methodology here is simply; the players earn their positions that they are assigned.
 
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Reggie must be a horrible practice player because of all the WRs on the Jags roster he IMHO is the most talented and the best all around WR.

Reggie will get picked up in a second by another NFL team if he's cut, but as others have stated I'd be surprised if he's cut.
This is on the money. If he is cut he will not clear the WW. That said he will not be cut!
Isn't it the usual practice to showcase a player you'd like to trade? :loco: (don't know, just asking)
Who said anything about a trade? Just asking?
 
Reggie must be a horrible practice player because of all the WRs on the Jags roster he IMHO is the most talented and the best all around WR.

Reggie will get picked up in a second by another NFL team if he's cut, but as others have stated I'd be surprised if he's cut.
This is on the money. If he is cut he will not clear the WW. That said he will not be cut!
Isn't it the usual practice to showcase a player you'd like to trade? :loco: (don't know, just asking)
Who said anything about a trade? Just asking?
Speculation in another thread: Williams is out of the mix and I wouldn't be shocked if he's traded for a conditional pick rather than waived. I don't think he's a bad player, I just think the Jags are loaded at WR.My statement about the trade was relative to the comments above it. IF they wouldn't cut him b/c another team would pick him up immediately then it's plausible that he COULD be traded for a pick. It would be stupid to lose a former 1st rounder for nothing (though I know it has been done).

Not saying this will happen. Just replying to the other remarks. I for one hope they keep him at WR 1-2 & quit these stupid roster moves. I still think he's their best option at # 1 NOW, so I really think he'll stick around. I think Williams, Jones, Northcutt (or Walker) is a pretty good starting group.

 
This whole "teams showcase the players they want to trade" thing is a shark pool myth.

A) trades rarely happen right before the season

B) teams would rather give reps to players who are going to make the team.

C) Other GM's aren't dumb. They have plenty of tape to look at in evaluating players. Showcasing does no good.

 

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