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[eoMMan]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.

If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.

It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.

It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

Pardon me for saying, but thats pretty dumb.You can wait until the 2nd or 3rd to get Benson, so there is no point taking him in the 1st when you could take a stud WR AND Benson....Just saying.

 

[TLEF316]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

Pardon me for saying, but thats pretty dumb.You can wait until the 2nd or 3rd to get Benson, so there is no point taking him in the 1st when you could take a stud WR AND Benson....Just saying.

sheep

 

[dickey moe]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

Pardon me for saying, but thats pretty dumb.You can wait until the 2nd or 3rd to get Benson, so there is no point taking him in the 1st when you could take a stud WR AND Benson....Just saying.

sheep

 

[eoMMan]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

Pardon me for saying, but thats pretty dumb.You can wait until the 2nd or 3rd to get Benson, so there is no point taking him in the 1st when you could take a stud WR AND Benson....Just saying.

Maybe, but why risk it? If you have him ranked high in your own rankings, I don't see why you should wait and risk someone else getting him. And plus, most the 1st and 2nd rounds are backs anyway, there will be plenty of solid WR's in the 2nd and 3rd round.

 

[Bri]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

Pardon me for saying, but thats pretty dumb.You can wait until the 2nd or 3rd to get Benson, so there is no point taking him in the 1st when you could take a stud WR AND Benson....Just saying.

Maybe, but why risk it? If you have him ranked high in your own rankings, I don't see why you should wait and risk someone else getting him. And plus, most the 1st and 2nd rounds are backs anyway, there will be plenty of solid WR's in the 2nd and 3rd round.

I think the 2nd is a fine middle ground here thenOriginal thought doesn't need to be a hasty thought.

 

[Sabertooth]

Lamont Jordan went in the mid second last year in my main league. Just saying that if you like a guy, take him. If you wait, you just might miss out on him.

 

[fridayfrenzy]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

Pardon me for saying, but thats pretty dumb.You can wait until the 2nd or 3rd to get Benson, so there is no point taking him in the 1st when you could take a stud WR AND Benson....Just saying.

sheep

Bah !

 

[MLBrandow]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

Pardon me for saying, but thats pretty dumb.You can wait until the 2nd or 3rd to get Benson, so there is no point taking him in the 1st when you could take a stud WR AND Benson....Just saying.

Maybe, but why risk it? If you have him ranked high in your own rankings, I don't see why you should wait and risk someone else getting him. And plus, most the 1st and 2nd rounds are backs anyway, there will be plenty of solid WR's in the 2nd and 3rd round.

Because Benson isn't going until the 4th round. So, taking him middle of 3rd is about all you need. And you can still land two top WRs or WR1 RB1.It's a game of ADPs. Reaching for a bunch of sleepers (Benson in the first would be) is a big gamble.

 

[eoMMan]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

Pardon me for saying, but thats pretty dumb.You can wait until the 2nd or 3rd to get Benson, so there is no point taking him in the 1st when you could take a stud WR AND Benson....Just saying.

Maybe, but why risk it? If you have him ranked high in your own rankings, I don't see why you should wait and risk someone else getting him. And plus, most the 1st and 2nd rounds are backs anyway, there will be plenty of solid WR's in the 2nd and 3rd round.

Because Benson isn't going until the 4th round. So, taking him middle of 3rd is about all you need. And you can still land two top WRs or WR1 RB1.It's a game of ADPs. Reaching for a bunch of sleepers (Benson in the first would be) is a big gamble.

Yes, it is a game of ADPs but keep in that the "A" in ADP is AVERAGE. This means that not every draft is going to have Benson going in the 3rd or 4th round. And plus, as we get closer to September and he holds onto the starting job, his ADP is going to rise. And like I said earlier, follow your own rankings. I don't he's any more of a gamble than the other backs in that range (after the 6 or 7 I mentioned already).I didn't mean to turn this thread into a big Benson discussion.I just meant to say that everyone should follow their own instincts and rankings and not follow someone else's rankings.

 

[Buckychudd]

Remember that for every Kevan Barlow drafted in the 1st or 2nd round who turned out to be a bust, there's a Lamont Jordan who was drafted in the 3rd round who turned out to be a stud.If I see Benson there late in the 1st round and the big 5 or 6 backs are going (Alexander, LJ, LT, Tiki, Portis, & Stephen Jackson), I'm ALL over him.It's your team and draft how you want to. It should be fun anyway.It's no fun cursing Kevin Jones every week.

Pardon me for saying, but thats pretty dumb.You can wait until the 2nd or 3rd to get Benson, so there is no point taking him in the 1st when you could take a stud WR AND Benson....Just saying.

Maybe, but why risk it? If you have him ranked high in your own rankings, I don't see why you should wait and risk someone else getting him. And plus, most the 1st and 2nd rounds are backs anyway, there will be plenty of solid WR's in the 2nd and 3rd round.

Because Benson isn't going until the 4th round. So, taking him middle of 3rd is about all you need. And you can still land two top WRs or WR1 RB1.It's a game of ADPs. Reaching for a bunch of sleepers (Benson in the first would be) is a big gamble.

It's just as big of a gamble waiting on a guy you're high on.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

What exactly are you projecting for benson that puts him as a 1st round pick?

Seems absurd. Following your logic, since his ADP puts him as a third or fourth round pick, them most people wouldnt take him before the fourth round. Hence, you shouldnt have to worry about him being gone until that 3rd fourth round juncture. Besides, if youre that high on him and happen to miss out on him, just grab a comparable 3rd/4th round back and work out a trade for him. You risk much less this way.

Taking him in the first round: Risk----> Missing out on a high-caliber back

Taking him in the third round: Risk----> Missing out on an aging or rookie back

Your call on this one.

 

[matuski]

Someone has been watching too much Sportscenter.

 

[GregR_2]

Yes, it is a game of ADPs but keep in that the "A" in ADP is AVERAGE. This means that not every draft is going to have Benson going in the 3rd or 4th round. ...

Maybe you should look at what his actual ADP is.

Start Date : 2006-07-14	Finish Date : 2006-08-04Info : 12 RB HP Normal-TE-Req Only-Serious-Mocks 	First Name	Last Name	Pos	Team	ADP	High	Low	Standard Deviation	Drafts 1.	 	Larry	Johnson	RB	KCC	1.01.36   	1.01 	1.03 	00.59	56	   2.	 	Shaun	Alexander	RB	SEA	1.02.19   	1.01 	1.04 	00.79	57	   3.	 	LaDainian	Tomlinson	RB	SDC	1.02.53   	1.01 	1.04 	00.78	58	   4.	 	Clinton	Portis	RB	WAS	1.04.76   	1.03 	1.07 	01.04	55	  ...      26.	 	Joseph	Addai	RB	IND	5.01.58   	3.10 	6.02 	06.49	57	   27.	 	Cedric	Benson	RB	CHI	5.04.29   	3.07	6.11 	09.88	55

So the EARLIEST he has been going on antsports in serious mocks is the end of the third round. Granted if he starts going early 2nd you may want to reach for him in the 1st to make sure you get him. But don't you think if we're talking at present, that 99% of the time you don't need to reach 2 rounds ahead of the earliest the guy is being taken?

 

[brakeyawself]

I assume you could walk away with somthing like R. Brown and Fitz, before needing to take Benson. And if you do happen to miss Benson, wouldnt it be in your benefit to trade say Fritz or Brown for Benson + a 3rd or 4th tier reciever then? Which I think you could get, especially for Brown. I love Benson. But I love him alot more as my RB2.

 

[eoMMan]

Yes, it is a game of ADPs but keep in that the "A" in ADP is AVERAGE. This means that not every draft is going to have Benson going in the 3rd or 4th round. ...

Maybe you should look at what his actual ADP is.

Start Date : 2006-07-14	Finish Date : 2006-08-04Info : 12 RB HP Normal-TE-Req Only-Serious-Mocks 	First Name	Last Name	Pos	Team	ADP	High	Low	Standard Deviation	Drafts 1.	 	Larry	Johnson	RB	KCC	1.01.36   	1.01 	1.03 	00.59	56	   2.	 	Shaun	Alexander	RB	SEA	1.02.19   	1.01 	1.04 	00.79	57	   3.	 	LaDainian	Tomlinson	RB	SDC	1.02.53   	1.01 	1.04 	00.78	58	   4.	 	Clinton	Portis	RB	WAS	1.04.76   	1.03 	1.07 	01.04	55	  ...      26.	 	Joseph	Addai	RB	IND	5.01.58   	3.10 	6.02 	06.49	57	   27.	 	Cedric	Benson	RB	CHI	5.04.29   	3.07	6.11 	09.88	55

So the EARLIEST he has been going on antsports in serious mocks is the end of the third round. Granted if he starts going early 2nd you may want to reach for him in the 1st to make sure you get him. But don't you think if we're talking at present, that 99% of the time you don't need to reach 2 rounds ahead of the earliest the guy is being taken?

I understand what you are saying but I still disagree. I don't care if his ADP is 36. If I have him as my 8th ranked RB and he's there, I'm taking him. It would be stupid to take a lesser player just to wait for your stud to be there later. And 2 rounds isn't that big of a margin nowadays. It's not like I'm suggesting taking Michael Bennett in the 1st.

 

[eoMMan]

I assume you could walk away with somthing like R. Brown and Fitz, before needing to take Benson. And if you do happen to miss Benson, wouldnt it be in your benefit to trade say Fritz or Brown for Benson + a 3rd or 4th tier reciever then? Which I think you could get, especially for Brown. I love Benson. But I love him alot more as my RB2.

I hear ya, but RB is fairly deep this year. If I had Benson as my RB1 (drafted at the end of round 1), I could easily come back with a guy like McGahee or Westbrook.

 

[streamkeeper]

I had a guy in my 2x player keeper league who drafted A Gates and then Baltimore in the first two rounds of our draft last year. The rest of us were stunned. We were even more stunned when he made it to the championship game. Sometimes it pays to be a contairian.

 

[Jiggyonthehut]

Someone has been watching too much Sportscenter.

Nah. I have the feeling this is just FFA shtick

 

[kbleck]

Are there any openings in your league?

 

[tangfoot]

I don't care if his ADP is 36. If I have him as my 8th ranked RB and he's there, I'm taking him. It would be stupid to take a lesser player just to wait for your stud to be there later. And 2 rounds isn't that big of a margin nowadays. It's not like I'm suggesting taking Michael Bennett in the 1st.

Will you play in my league? Please?

 

[eoMMan]

This thread will be bumped when Benson is a top 12 back and a couple of the other projected top 12 backs turn out to be busts.

 

[brakeyawself]

I assume you could walk away with somthing like R. Brown and Fitz, before needing to take Benson. And if you do happen to miss Benson, wouldnt it be in your benefit to trade say Fritz or Brown for Benson + a 3rd or 4th tier reciever then? Which I think you could get, especially for Brown. I love Benson. But I love him alot more as my RB2.

I hear ya, but RB is fairly deep this year. If I had Benson as my RB1 (drafted at the end of round 1), I could easily come back with a guy like McGahee or Westbrook.

I think the RB ranks look a lot deeper this year than they actually are. Im assumiing more than half the high ranked rb's either wont do as well as projected or are injury or age risks. Alot of them also have to deal with RBBC. I would certainly use the first two roudns for more (as everyones a risk) sure things. If you think it will work out then go for it by all means. But you when you start talking about guys like McGahee or Westbrook in I get worried. Westbrook isnt a bad RB2, and McGahee could really be amazing, IF he stays in the game. With Benson all ready a slight risk, why have a major risk in addition? You're looking at somthing likeR. Brown, L. Fitz, C. Benson vs.C. Benson, McGahee, P. Burress. I know which one I'd rather have.

 

[Warpig]

I'm all for your strategy. I always have a list of guys that I really want and I'll take them regardless of where others have him ranked. But in the case with Benson, I've been getting him in the 3rd or 4th in 12 team mocks. I would rather take Ronnie Brown towards the end of the 1st and then grab Benson in the 2nd if I didn't really think he'd make it back to me in the 3rd. However, I think his stock may be rising so he may not make it out of the 2nd round any longer.

 

[eoMMan]

This thread will be bumped when Benson is a top 12 back and a couple of the other projected top 12 backs turn out to be busts.

Obviously, if he's hurt before draft day, I'm not taking him.

 

[cracKer]

This thread will be bumped when Benson is a top 12 back and a couple of the other projected top 12 backs turn out to be busts.

It would still be considered a bad pick.

 

[avoiding injuries]

Weird man, ####ing weird.

http://forums.footballguys.com/forum/index...howtopic=256147

 

[GreenNGold]

I had M. Anderson (RB - DEN) ranked ahead of Lamont Jorand last season. They ended up dead even. Mucho value!

 

[Otis]

I just let the Draft Robot draft for me.

:cuemusic:

 

[Slinger]

This thread will be bumped when Benson is a top 12 back and a couple of the other projected top 12 backs turn out to be busts.

This is beautiful.

 

[duaneok66]

This thread will be bumped when Benson is a top 12 back and a couple of the other projected top 12 backs turn out to be busts.

Obviously, if he's hurt before draft day, I'm not taking him.

I guess you're not taking him now . . .

 

[cobalt_27]

I understand what you are saying but I still disagree. I don't care if his ADP is 36. If I have him as my 8th ranked RB and he's there, I'm taking him. It would be stupid to take a lesser player just to wait for your stud to be there later. And 2 rounds isn't that big of a margin nowadays. It's not like I'm suggesting taking Michael Bennett in the 1st.

Umm...yes it is, actually.If you had MB as the 8th best back, your theory would hold that the smart play would be to take him in the 1st round. Ultimately, there are two problems here (not issues, problems). The first is this affection towards Benson. But, we all get a little gummy over guys we shouldn't every year. The second problem is more systemic and damaging. Unless you have one guy you want--and one guy only--there is no reason to take that player 2 rounds before his ADP, particularly in the early-going when it's so well-defined. Later on, sure...take that flyer early. It's harder to predict how the chips are going to fall, and if you don't want to miss out on your deep sleeper, take him guilt free.But, you have got to be able to delay gratification and risk that 1% chance that some numskull reaches on the turn for Benson. There is just no good reason for anyone, including yourself, to get him in the first round when you can easily get him in the second (and likely in the third). What you are doing is volunteering away your 1st round pick, squandering its value completely.Having some patience will get you Benson and a better team around him. If all you care about is getting Benson, then your strategy appears more designed for window dressing--not winning.

 

[Mister CIA]

How many so-called sharks missed out on Carson Palmer in redrafts last year?

I'm no shark, but a "guppy" pulled the rug out from under me last year when he drafted CP in the 5th before I could draft him in the 6th.

I'm still ticked off about it.

 

[duaneok66]

The classic NFL example in recent years was when Jones picked Carter in the 2nd round when he was slated to go around the 5th . . .

 

[The Jerk]

How many so-called sharks missed out on Carson Palmer in redrafts last year?I'm no shark, but a "guppy" pulled the rug out from under me last year when he drafted CP in the 5th before I could draft him in the 6th.I'm still ticked off about it.

OK, but if you count that in the one column, then you have to look at the opportunity cost every other time someone was taken earlier than necessary, and the resultant weaker complementary player to the one you really wanted.If that doesn't make sense to you, the simple version is: one missed player does not justify ten other reaches.

 

[duaneok66]

How many so-called sharks missed out on Carson Palmer in redrafts last year?I'm no shark, but a "guppy" pulled the rug out from under me last year when he drafted CP in the 5th before I could draft him in the 6th.I'm still ticked off about it.

OK, but if you count that in the one column, then you have to look at the opportunity cost every other time someone was taken earlier than necessary, and the resultant weaker complementary player to the one you really wanted.If that doesn't make sense to you, the simple version is: one missed player does not justify ten other reaches.

similar to when someone posts a lists of 20 sleepers, and 2 or 3 actually perform well (" I CALLED IT IN THE PRESEASON!!!!!!") while the rest bomb out . . .

 

[Mister CIA]

How many so-called sharks missed out on Carson Palmer in redrafts last year?I'm no shark, but a "guppy" pulled the rug out from under me last year when he drafted CP in the 5th before I could draft him in the 6th.I'm still ticked off about it.

OK, but if you count that in the one column, then you have to look at the opportunity cost every other time someone was taken earlier than necessary, and the resultant weaker complementary player to the one you really wanted.If that doesn't make sense to you, the simple version is: one missed player does not justify ten other reaches.

Carson Palmer, like Steve Smith, Joey Galloway, Santana Moss and Larry Johnson were all justifiable reaches last year. ... AGates too now that I think about it."Reaches" are what attracts me to FF.Maybe that does not make sense to you.

 

[The Jerk]

How many so-called sharks missed out on Carson Palmer in redrafts last year?I'm no shark, but a "guppy" pulled the rug out from under me last year when he drafted CP in the 5th before I could draft him in the 6th.I'm still ticked off about it.

OK, but if you count that in the one column, then you have to look at the opportunity cost every other time someone was taken earlier than necessary, and the resultant weaker complementary player to the one you really wanted.If that doesn't make sense to you, the simple version is: one missed player does not justify ten other reaches.

Carson Palmer, like Steve Smith, Joey Galloway, Santana Moss and Larry Johnson were all justifiable reaches last year. ... AGates too now that I think about it."Reaches" are what attracts me to FF.Maybe that does not make sense to you.

Easy there, Mr. CIA. My "if that doesn't make sense to you" phrase was poking fun at my own awkward initial sentence, not you or anyone else. You really don't have to be defensive. We're all just swapping strategies and looking to learn from each other how to get better at a hobby we enjoy.I think you're doing a little bit of cherry-picking here with your justifiable reach list. Hindsight makes them all justifiable, but I'm not sure that was the case a year ago. More importantly, how many other players were reached for that did not turn out well.The point of emphasis for me is that I want to take these types of players as late as possible. Even if Palmer threw 70 TDs last year, I would consider it bad drafting if I took him in the third round when I could have drafted him in the fifth. It's all about value and opportunity cost.I can acknowledge that I will sometimes draft a player a round earlier just to be safe, but I do that very rarely and I have to really, REALLY think this player stands out among the crowd (or tier, if you prefer) on my draft board. Maybe we just have different strategies. If it works for you, keep on doing it. I don't follow every consensus of the board either, but I do listen to the merit of the arguments that are made, and I'm definitely a much better player for the experience.

 

[SSOG]

I have to say, I really don't like reaching several rounds before a player could even concievably go to try to land him, but if you absolutely HAVE TO HAVE a guy, it's not a horrible idea. I mean, if you're absolutely MARRIED to a guy and have to have him, by all means, reach.

I "reached" on Dayne earlier this year in the middle of the 3rd (12 team league), because I was in a league with 11 other FBGs who all knew exactly how I felt about him. If I wanted to land him, I had to go early.

Of course, then just yesterday, a leaguemate of mine (who doesn't follow FBGs and who doesn't know about my feelings on Dayne) grabbed him late in the 2nd round (10 team league). If I was absolutely married to the idea of landing Dayne, I'd be kicking myself right now. Luckily for me, I wasn't even going to make a play for him- this was one of the leagues where I was going to let him fall in order to diversify my rosters and see just where he landed. Still, though... Dayne in the 2nd in a 10-teamer. If you really really want a player, sometimes you have to take drastic measures before someone else does.

 

[Shiver44]

Early in the draft, I try not to reach over at the worst one round. Later in the draft, it's not to bad to grab some breakout potential Receivers a couple rounds early.

 

[Mister CIA]

How many so-called sharks missed out on Carson Palmer in redrafts last year?I'm no shark, but a "guppy" pulled the rug out from under me last year when he drafted CP in the 5th before I could draft him in the 6th.I'm still ticked off about it.

OK, but if you count that in the one column, then you have to look at the opportunity cost every other time someone was taken earlier than necessary, and the resultant weaker complementary player to the one you really wanted.If that doesn't make sense to you, the simple version is: one missed player does not justify ten other reaches.

Carson Palmer, like Steve Smith, Joey Galloway, Santana Moss and Larry Johnson were all justifiable reaches last year. ... AGates too now that I think about it."Reaches" are what attracts me to FF.Maybe that does not make sense to you.

Easy there, Mr. CIA. My "if that doesn't make sense to you" phrase was poking fun at my own awkward initial sentence, not you or anyone else. You really don't have to be defensive. We're all just swapping strategies and looking to learn from each other how to get better at a hobby we enjoy.I think you're doing a little bit of cherry-picking here with your justifiable reach list. Hindsight makes them all justifiable, but I'm not sure that was the case a year ago. More importantly, how many other players were reached for that did not turn out well.The point of emphasis for me is that I want to take these types of players as late as possible. Even if Palmer threw 70 TDs last year, I would consider it bad drafting if I took him in the third round when I could have drafted him in the fifth. It's all about value and opportunity cost.I can acknowledge that I will sometimes draft a player a round earlier just to be safe, but I do that very rarely and I have to really, REALLY think this player stands out among the crowd (or tier, if you prefer) on my draft board. Maybe we just have different strategies. If it works for you, keep on doing it. I don't follow every consensus of the board either, but I do listen to the merit of the arguments that are made, and I'm definitely a much better player for the experience.

Hola, I regard you as an insightful poster.... and I'm offended that you think I was being defensive. ...seek the pun ... or is it irony? or piruny?Adios.

 

[GregR_2]

...So the EARLIEST he has been going on antsports in serious mocks is the end of the third round. Granted if he starts going early 2nd you may want to reach for him in the 1st to make sure you get him. But don't you think if we're talking at present, that 99% of the time you don't need to reach 2 rounds ahead of the earliest the guy is being taken?

I understand what you are saying but I still disagree. I don't care if his ADP is 36. If I have him as my 8th ranked RB and he's there, I'm taking him. It would be stupid to take a lesser player just to wait for your stud to be there later. And 2 rounds isn't that big of a margin nowadays. It's not like I'm suggesting taking Michael Bennett in the 1st.

Just to be clear, if you pass on Benson you take your RB9. If Benson is there at your 2nd round, 17th overall pick, then you got your RB8 and RB9 with the 8th and 17th picks.If Benson is not there at your 17th pick, then you got your RB9 and the best RB in the second round.If you took Benson in the first, you got your RB8 and the best RB in the 2nd round.Are you telling me there is such a gap between your RB8 and RB9, that you aren't better off taking the at least 90% chance Benson will be there at your 2nd pick and getting both your RB8 and RB9?

 

[goonsquad]

This thread will be bumped when Benson is a top 12 back and a couple of the other projected top 12 backs turn out to be busts.

It would still be considered a bad pick.

 

[GregR_2]

This thread will be bumped when Benson is a top 12 back and a couple of the other projected top 12 backs turn out to be busts.

So you're planning to pat yourself on the back if some of the projected top 12 backs don't make it? Because, you know, it's so unusual that every top 12 RB doesn't end up there.Or were you planning to actually predict which of the top 12 won't be there before claiming it as a personal victory?