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Maybe instead of stories about what you were doing that day, how about stories about what you have done since then? How has it changed your thinking, etc....
Got to my floor, walked to the window where everyone was staring out in shock. The second plane had just hit. I had a clear view from central midtown right to the towers.....I remember a radio being on, and to this day, I don't know what station or who it was but they were basically making a joke out of the whole thing. I was pretty pissed at that. We evacuated my building walked across to our other building and watched the towers fall on a computer screen. A lot of freaking out among people in the office. I got out of there walked over the 59th Street Bridge, sweated my balls off cause it was so hot. Couldn't take my eyes off the ribbon of smoke coming from the site of the Trade Center.Yep....the tail fell off....supposedly.What was it, like two weeks later when that Jamica Air plane crashed into a Queens neighborhood? Crashed right into someones house. Now that was a bit shocking and surprising.
That was in November.My immediate reaction (and probably that of many of us in the city) was that it might have been another hijacked flight.What was it, like two weeks later when that Jamica Air plane crashed into a Queens neighborhood? Crashed right into someones house. Now that was a bit shocking and surprising.
Very, very creepy. Same blue, same crisp but warm non-humid air. I thought the same thing as you this morning.For those who live out here, pretty startling how the sky is today. Same crystal clear blue.![]()
Couple of stories from friends...My buddy worked high up one of the towers. He told me that some of the people in his office saw smoke in the other tower and started to wonder about it when the fire alarm went off in their office. A voice came over the intercom telling everybody that their was a fire or explosion in the other tower and they should evacuate.My friend walked down the stairs until one of the floors that's an express elevator floor (like on the 45th floor, where you could then take it up to the higher floors), thinking that they'd go back to work. I think I remember him saying that somebody on the intercom told them (while he was walking down the fire strairs) that they could continue evacuating or return to their office. My friend was about to the latter when the plane hit his building. He says he doesn't remember a thing after that until he found himself running up Mercer Street in SoHo to another friend's bar/office- still in his business suit and tie.Friend #2 was an architect, working in one of the towers and who was in an elevator when the first plane hit- shutting down the elevators and trapping him and two other people just below a floor. He was able to open the elevator doors, but the doors to the floor were being held together by a cable of some kind, allowing him to only open those doors about 8 or 9 inches- not wide enough to crawl out.As you could imagine, the scene in the hallway outside the elevator was completely chaotic, and they weren't able to flag anybody down at first. But finally, a man saw him. My friend begged this guy to go one flight UP to his architecture office and find a dremel tool in the model-making department. And the guy ran off, leaving my friend and the two other people hoping to god that he'd come back. A number of minutes later (which must have felt like hours), they see a hand come through the opening and drop the dremel tool in without a word.My friend quickly went to work cutting the cable and hightailed it out of there just in time, getting a few blocks away before that tower fell. He never got the name of his good samaritan or even found out if he survived.

Can't say that anything has changed. As I posted, I'm out here in AZ and don't really consider it a target (yes, it probably is, but I feel it's so far down the list that it's not worth worrying about...and even if Phoenix were a target, I'm not in one of the skyscrapers downtown or other "more viable" target). Certainly, some small town in South Dakota is as much a target as Phoenix is, but I don't really think about it here. I don't look at others with suspicion, I don't see a plane that's not in the usual flight pattern and wonder if it's being directed at a building, etc.I'm also 200miles from the most-porous part of the borderMaybe instead of stories about what you were doing that day, how about stories about what you have done since then? How has it changed your thinking, etc....
, and certainly an eager terrorist could just walk right across and do harm (there have been reports of the Koran being found in the desert along the border). I'm more worried about the illegal aliens coming across the border and committing other crimes in town, and wasting my tax dollars.But really, nothing has changed in my life.The only obvious "change in thinking" is that I notice the WTC in just about every pre-9/11 movie. I've even seen the towers in movies where they didn't really play up that it was set in New York, but there they are, standing tall in the background.Wow Floppo, that's some powerful stuff. I also lived on the Upper West Side at the time and was getting ready to head in to work at Lincoln Center - my gf (now wife) called and told me about the plane - she worked two blocks away. I turned on the TV and saw which tower it was and immediately called my buddies who worked for Cantor Fitzgerald -- couldn't get through. When the second plane hit I was in complete shock, and knowing my gf was right near the towers I was terrified for her. She was fine but had watched the second plane hit the tower as she was right outside - she'll never be the same. We live in Los Angeles now and there are always helicopters flying overhead. Sometimes in the middle of the night one will jolt her awake and she'll be panicked. Unfortunately, none of my friends at Cantor made it. The next few days were kind of a blur as family/friends of the missing made our apartment home base and we scoured the hospitals looking for survivors. I don't know at what point I "knew" they were all gone, part of me probably knew the moment the tower fell. The worst thing I've ever seen is my friend's father give up hope that their son was alive. You could just see him fold in to himself, age 20 years in a moment. I recieved a wedding invitation a few days after 9/11 but the guy who was getting married was gone. I miss those guys.Couple of stories from friends...
and I made the smart### comment "Don't tell me Bush accidently hit the button!"
upon reading that last line. :( I don't have much of a story but my recollections of the day are pretty vivid (like the "feel" of the morning as previously discussed). I was in North Jersey well removed from any harm, but we could see the smoke.The biggest issue was with my wife. She worked at Sloan Kettering (Upper East Side). Getting her out of the city and home safe was the biggest issue (remember the images of those walking across the Brooklyn Bridge). For a period, they thought they would be receiving wounded despite the fact that they are primarily a cancer center (the initial presumption was that the hospitals would be full). The sad reality is that there weren't enough survivors for them to be called upon.Best job I never took:Wall Street Planning - 89th Floor in Tower 1Interviewed in Spring of 2000.
gman- damn... I am really sorry about your friends at CantorFitz- I hate even thinking about it. And getting a wedding invite from one of them... woof... devestating. Even though I went to college and grad-school in NYC and have lived here for almost 20 years, I am always thankful (and pretty shocked) that I didn't know a single person who lost their life that day.Wow Floppo, that's some powerful stuff. I also lived on the Upper West Side at the time and was getting ready to head in to work at Lincoln Center - my gf (now wife) called and told me about the plane - she worked two blocks away. I turned on the TV and saw which tower it was and immediately called my buddies who worked for Cantor Fitzgerald -- couldn't get through. When the second plane hit I was in complete shock, and knowing my gf was right near the towers I was terrified for her. She was fine but had watched the second plane hit the tower as she was right outside - she'll never be the same. We live in Los Angeles now and there are always helicopters flying overhead. Sometimes in the middle of the night one will jolt her awake and she'll be panicked. Unfortunately, none of my friends at Cantor made it. The next few days were kind of a blur as family/friends of the missing made our apartment home base and we scoured the hospitals looking for survivors. I don't know at what point I "knew" they were all gone, part of me probably knew the moment the tower fell. The worst thing I've ever seen is my friend's father give up hope that their son was alive. You could just see him fold in to himself, age 20 years in a moment. I recieved a wedding invitation a few days after 9/11 but the guy who was getting married was gone. I miss those guys.
yeah, it sucks; guys I had summer houses with, went out drinking with, had fantasy football leagues, it's a strange void. I can't imagine what it is like for their families. Here's a bit of a strange story. My best friend was moving from Hoboken to NYC with his brother. Right before they were going to sign the lease his bro backed out -- for no reason. They were incredibly close, they did everything together, but when my buddy asked him why he didn't want to live with him he just gave something vague about how it would be better if he lived by himself. Now they had to vacate their apartment in Hoboken by the end of September, but showed no inclination of looking for a new place. His girlfriend was pressuring him to look at apartments, and when she asked him what the hell he was waiting for, he told her "it didn't matter."His brother was also in our fantasy football league (for years), and the day of the draft he abruptly cancelled. Again, he had no valid reason. He was a huge football fan, loved the league. We were like huh? When I asked him he just shrugged it off, but had no real answer. He brought a bunch of usl out one night to dinner and paid for everything, something he'd never done before. He even proposed a toast to friendship and life and other stuff, which was completely unlike him. Later we found out he'd called some college friends he hadn't spoken to in a few years and reconnected.All this stuff took place in the two weeks before 9/11 - he died in Tower I.Every once in a while my buddy and me will talk about it, about how it seems like he knew something was going to happen (no he wasn't CIA or a terrorist or anything like that). Probably ridiculous, but to this day I wonder. I mean he acted SO different - we all noticed it. His brother, his girlfriend, his friends. It was bizarre.gman- damn... I am really sorry about your friends at CantorFitz- I hate even thinking about it. And getting a wedding invite from one of them... woof... devestating. Even though I went to college and grad-school in NYC and have lived here for almost 20 years, I am always thankful (and pretty shocked) that I didn't know a single person who lost their life that day.
I used to go to Hobson's Choice alot to watch the games on Sundays - a few of the Cantor boys would show up there. Fun place, right next to the path. I met Wayne a couple of times but didn't know him well.Only person I know that died is Wayne Hobson (Cantor) - he owned a bar in Hoboken called Hobson's Choice, I believe his wife still owns it - they always have a memorial type evening there on 9/11 - everyone works for free and all proceeds go to a 9/11 fund.
Whatever guyTannerBoyle said:He now has the same job at the Empire State Building. Not kidding.Great story.

I think TB was serious.Whatever guyTannerBoyle said:He now has the same job at the Empire State Building. Not kidding.Great story.
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I used to go to Hobson's Choice alot to watch the games on Sundays - a few of the Cantor boys would show up there. Fun place, right next to the path. I met Wayne a couple of times but didn't know him well.Only person I know that died is Wayne Hobson (Cantor) - he owned a bar in Hoboken called Hobson's Choice, I believe his wife still owns it - they always have a memorial type evening there on 9/11 - everyone works for free and all proceeds go to a 9/11 fund.
Never heard about the connection to 9/11. Have been out of the Hoboken scene for a few too many years.I think TB is expressing the sameWhatever guyTannerBoyle said:He now has the same job at the Empire State Building. Not kidding.Great story.
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that came to my mind thinking this guy went back to a life where he works at the top of the world in what is now the most reccognizable building still standing in NYC. That takes some guts.I agree, i don't think TB was making fun of anything.I think TB is expressing the sameWhatever guyTannerBoyle said:He now has the same job at the Empire State Building. Not kidding.Great story.
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that came to my mind thinking this guy went back to a life where he works at the top of the world in what is now the most reccognizable building still standing in NYC. That takes some guts.
I remember this story from before.TannerBoyle said:I'm pretty sure I posted this story here before (pretty sure it was purged) but I guess it's a good time to retell it.Two guys I went to HS with here in Central California ended up both living in the NYC area. Bob lived in CT and Mike lived and worked in NYC. Although both of them (and myself) were friends in HS we didn't stay close after graduation. And though both Bob and Mike lived in the NYC area they didn't hang out together.On the night of September 10th Mike and his wife are at a baseball game (not sure if it was Mets or Yanks) and it gets rained out. On the way out they run into Bob and his girlfriend. This was a pretty interesting coincidence since neither one of them knew the other was going to be at the game.The four of them decide to go have a couple of drinks at a nearby bar. Those couple of drinks turn into 4 or 5. Eventually Mike invites Bob and his girlfriend to stay the night as his apartment so they don't have to make the trip back to CT. Back at the apartment they have a few more drinks, reliving old times before everyone heads to bed.The next morning Mike's more than a little hungover and decides to go to work about an hour later than usual. I'm not sure of the details but he either didn't get a chance to get on the subway or he was forced to evacuate just stops away from his apartment. Mike never made it to work that morning which was a good thing since his office was in WTC 2...somewhere around the 100th floor.It freaks me out a bit to think of all the things that happened that the night of the 10th that eventually kept Mike out of work the morning of Sept. 11....the ball game was rained out. ...he runs into a guy he'd known since the 6th grade even though they were 3000 miles away from where they grew up....they end up drinking more than they had planned....Mike decides to go in late even though it was something he hardly ever did.Oh the other thing that gets me is that even though Bob and Mike weren't that close of friends growing up when one of them had tickets to a Dodgers or Angels game they would invited the other one since they both loved baseball. Meeting up at a baseball game all the way across the country almost 20 years later is just nutty.
Yes. CNN.comis there a place to watch the CNN feed form that day?
My buddy from Sandler O'Neil: BeezoTannerBoyle said:Creepy...a guy I went to HS with worked for Sandler O'Neill in the WTC 2 as well. He wasn't in the office that day though. That's a great story. I posted it here once but it might have been purged. I'll see if I can repost it.A couple of months after 9/11, I was considering a re-fi on my house. In a fit of whimsy, I googled to see if there were any mortgage companies around with my name, you know, for a family discount. lol
I clicked on one hit and it turned out to be a directory of sorts. I searched down the page for my name, I came upon something like:
{his name}
Sandler O'Neill Mortgage
WTC 2 104th Floor
I wentupon reading that last line. :(
I would imagine he was a distant cousin of mine, but I don't know the exact relationship.
RIP cuz.
I decided to stop being an actor and a waiter and actually do something with my life. I went to college, starting completely over at age 24, got my A.A. from a Community College, went on to get a Philosophy Degree from UCLA, and am now in law school with 2 years left to go on my 7 year plan, started in the summer of 2002.9/11 and my brother's suicide five months later completely changed my life.Maybe instead of stories about what you were doing that day, how about stories about what you have done since then? How has it changed your thinking, etc....
I decided to stop being an actor and a waiter and actually do something with my life. I went to college, starting completely over at age 24, got my A.A. from a Community College, went on to get a Philosophy Degree from UCLA, and am now in law school with 2 years left to go on my 7 year plan, started in the summer of 2002.9/11 and my brother's suicide five months later completely changed my life.Maybe instead of stories about what you were doing that day, how about stories about what you have done since then? How has it changed your thinking, etc....
Wow, that must have been a very tough time for you and your family to say the least. Glad to see you are charging through with school though...that's awesome 
Jesus.This is flat out devestating. Thank you so much for sharing this with us- I don't even have the words to describe how much this just put me back into that day in a way that, even living here in NYC, I didn't think I'd experience.I was at work like most - My cousin just started a dream job working in the towers PICS.... At 1st also, like most we thought it was a small cessna and not much would happen - When you 1st got the news there was no way you imagined what was about to happen....
We hoped for the best....
He started a web site not too long before that date and the messages will always give me chills.....
Paul's Site
Paul, I hope to god that you are ok. You are my brother and always will be. Andy
Andrew Finiasz <afiniasz@hotmail.com>
binghamton, ny USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 10:14:29 (PDT)
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Paul, we're really worried about you down here at the good old H. Please let us know you're alright.
Nicholas E. Venti <nick@whrwfm.org>
Binghamton, NY USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 20:35:33 (PDT)
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Paul, where are you? Are you okay? I have been trying to get in touch with you. If anyone reads this message and has any information or contact/phone information on Paul, please email me ASAP.
Erin <brownee@georgetown.edu>
Washington, DC USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:47:56 (PDT)
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Hey Paul are you alright? You weren't in there were you?
Fluffhead <nick@whrwfm.org>
Binghamton, NY USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:14:16 (PDT)
Seriously. Absolutely horrifying. #### Bin Laden.Jesus.This is flat out devestating. Thank you so much for sharing this with us- I don't even have the words to describe how much this just put me back into that day in a way that, even living here in NYC, I didn't think I'd experience.I was at work like most - My cousin just started a dream job working in the towers PICS.... At 1st also, like most we thought it was a small cessna and not much would happen - When you 1st got the news there was no way you imagined what was about to happen....
We hoped for the best....
He started a web site not too long before that date and the messages will always give me chills.....
Paul's Site
Paul, I hope to god that you are ok. You are my brother and always will be. Andy
Andrew Finiasz <afiniasz@hotmail.com>
binghamton, ny USA - Wednesday, September 12, 2001 at 10:14:29 (PDT)
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Paul, we're really worried about you down here at the good old H. Please let us know you're alright.
Nicholas E. Venti <nick@whrwfm.org>
Binghamton, NY USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 20:35:33 (PDT)
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Paul, where are you? Are you okay? I have been trying to get in touch with you. If anyone reads this message and has any information or contact/phone information on Paul, please email me ASAP.
Erin <brownee@georgetown.edu>
Washington, DC USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:47:56 (PDT)
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Hey Paul are you alright? You weren't in there were you?
Fluffhead <nick@whrwfm.org>
Binghamton, NY USA - Tuesday, September 11, 2001 at 10:14:16 (PDT)
I'm frigging crying here.