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Rent-a-defense week 12 (1 Viewer)

Just gonna leave this here as I don't have time to do a proper write up and analysis of it. Couldn't find the data anywhere for offensive only scoring, so I spent some time with a spreadsheet and removed all non offensive TDs (PR, KR, INT, FUM, BFG, BP) and (for simplicities sake) assigned a value of 7 to all of them (massive assumption that they all resulted in an extra point instead of 2 point conversion or missed extra point, I know, but time was limited). Below is the scoring averages for teams based on offensive TD's, FG, XP, 2 point conversions and the odd safety (forgot to take it out). Rnk = scoring rank for overall scoring, included it to quickly identify teams that score a lot less points on offense than overall (Bears, almost 6 points ppg with their 7 non offensive TDs). Hope somebody else finds this helpful, I'm using it to plan out my WW Rent-A-D for multiple titles.

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32	St. Louis Rams 	        10	113	11.330	Indianapolis Colts 	10	117	11.731	Jacksonville Jaguars 	10	125	12.529	Kansas City Chiefs 	10	130	1328	Cleveland Browns 	10	145	14.527	Washington Redskins 	10	153	15.326	Seattle Seahawks 	10	161	16.124	Arizona Cardinals 	10	169	16.925	Tampa Bay Buccaneers 	10	175	17.521	Denver Broncos 	        10	177	17.722	Tennessee Titans 	10	182	18.220	Miami Dolphins 	        11	205	18.6416	New York Jets 	        10	193	19.323	Minnesota Vikings 	10	193	19.312	Cincinnati Bengals 	10	208	20.819	Pittsburgh Steelers 	10	213	21.310	Philadelphia Eagles 	10	216	21.610	Buffalo Bills 	        10	216	21.618	Carolina Panthers 	10	218	21.88	Chicago Bears 	        10	219	21.99	San Francisco 49ers 	11	241	21.9116	New York Giants 	10	221	22.16	Baltimore Ravens 	11	244	22.1814	Oakland Raiders 	10	228	22.814	Atlanta Falcons 	10	228	22.812	San Diego Chargers 	10	229	22.97	Dallas Cowboys 	        11	263	23.915	Houston Texans 	        10	252	25.22	Detroit Lions 	        11	288	26.184	New England Patriots 	10	279	27.93	New Orleans Saints 	10	292	29.21	Green Bay Packers 	11	347	31.55
 
Bumping this thread to give props to Bloom on recommending the STL defense, and old Al Davis scholarship WR/KR Nick Miller saved the day with his punt return TD. :thumbup:

Rent-a-defense = :moneybag:

 
Thanks for subscribing, hanging out in the forums, and reading the feature everyone. Although there has been a great play omitted once and a few singles where home runs or doubles were possible, I think the main thesis of Rent a Defense has been proven - drafting a defense before the last round is for suckers unless you play in a league where 75% or more of the defenses are carried week to week or you have a scoring system that heavily weights pts and yds allowed. This is especially the time of year when the rent-a-defense strategy can shine as the growing number of backup QBs at the helm makes it easier to find plum matchups...

 
Thanks for subscribing, hanging out in the forums, and reading the feature everyone. Although there has been a great play omitted once and a few singles where home runs or doubles were possible, I think the main thesis of Rent a Defense has been proven - drafting a defense before the last round is for suckers unless you play in a league where 75% or more of the defenses are carried week to week or you have a scoring system that heavily weights pts and yds allowed. This is especially the time of year when the rent-a-defense strategy can shine as the growing number of backup QBs at the helm makes it easier to find plum matchups...
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I'm thinking about going with Atlanta against the Texans. It's certainly a risk with Foster and Andre, but hopefully Yates will be good for some rookie mistakes.

The waiver wire options in my league are horrible. I think it's better to just take a shot with someone this week and pick up Tennessee (who is available) for the playoff run.

 
I'm thinking about going with Atlanta against the Texans. It's certainly a risk with Foster and Andre, but hopefully Yates will be good for some rookie mistakes.The waiver wire options in my league are horrible. I think it's better to just take a shot with someone this week and pick up Tennessee (who is available) for the playoff run.
I picked up TEN last week (19 points) thinking that Buf would be a great matchup this week. With FredJax out, and FItz throwing a ton of INT's, they have been giving up a lot of DST points last few weeks.Not so sure now with a strong performance offensive performance by BUF last week. My WW does not offer much better. Maybe KC vs CHI and Hanne or Falcons would be a good bet with Yates in HoustonI still may roll with TEN however..
 
Not sure that's a good call. Carolina is headed in the other direction. I'm looking towards the Jags against the Chargers. Something just looks wrong with Rivers.

Anything for week 13? Looking for some oomph
Rent-a-defense week 13 is up. Looks like all the good defenses are already owned. May have to settle for Tampa. Though that team is not going in a good way right now.
Tampa is a bit jekyll and hyde, but Newton can be loose with the ball and Talib is playing at an allpro level right now. Top 3 D/ST last week against TEN. I considered Jags, but just not seeing any playmaking punch on D.
 
I'm thinking about going with Atlanta against the Texans. It's certainly a risk with Foster and Andre, but hopefully Yates will be good for some rookie mistakes.The waiver wire options in my league are horrible. I think it's better to just take a shot with someone this week and pick up Tennessee (who is available) for the playoff run.
Atlanta didn't do that much against another rookie QB without nearly the running game that Yates has last week - they don't really go on sack and turnover binges as it is, and the Texans should be playing it very close to the vest.
 
I'm thinking about going with Atlanta against the Texans. It's certainly a risk with Foster and Andre, but hopefully Yates will be good for some rookie mistakes.The waiver wire options in my league are horrible. I think it's better to just take a shot with someone this week and pick up Tennessee (who is available) for the playoff run.
I picked up TEN last week (19 points) thinking that Buf would be a great matchup this week. With FredJax out, and FItz throwing a ton of INT's, they have been giving up a lot of DST points last few weeks.Not so sure now with a strong performance offensive performance by BUF last week. My WW does not offer much better. Maybe KC vs CHI and Hanne or Falcons would be a good bet with Yates in HoustonI still may roll with TEN however..
I think BUF summoned up all they had and played for their lives last week... TEN has a lot more to play for and Johnson is running hot now. I like it if for no other reason than to have them for the playoffs and not waste another spot on a D this week.
 
How long is AP supposed to be out? The Saints play the Vikings in Week 15 and if they run up the points it could lead to some mistakes from the Vikes.

 
My wish list for this week from the WW:

Denver

Ten

San Diego

Ten and Denver have better scoring FF defenses but SD looks pretty good facing an awful Jax.

 
SD @ JAX?

PHI @ SEA?

WW options are not good in my league this week. San Diego is awful and on the road, but Gabbert is awful. Who knows how JAX responds to a coaching change.

PHI is reeling and SEA is better at home. I don't trust Jackson, especially with Rice out, but Lynch could have success running the ball.

I usually prefer to have my rent-a-defenses playing at home. I see the Bucs have been recommended, and they are at home, but the three weeks before last week's 18 points they had a combined 9 points in my league. Are they really the play?

 
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Yeah, Tampa surprises a bit on there, I can't trust them, even if it is against Newton. Miami too, Palmer looks alright, no?

And New Orleans is an automatic against Detroit???

Is there a thread for week 13? I couldn't find it.

Skins vs Sanchez?

Vikes vs Tebow?

 
'DocHolliday said:
My wish list for this week from the WW:DenverTenSan DiegoTen and Denver have better scoring FF defenses but SD looks pretty good facing an awful Jax.
SD defense is not making any plays - very little pass rush or impact... Jacksonville will play it very conservative and protect the ball unless SD jumps out to a lead and if JAX D plays like they did last week, don't see that happening.
 
'RenegadeGM said:
SD @ JAX?PHI @ SEA?WW options are not good in my league this week. San Diego is awful and on the road, but Gabbert is awful. Who knows how JAX responds to a coaching change.PHI is reeling and SEA is better at home. I don't trust Jackson, especially with Rice out, but Lynch could have success running the ball.I usually prefer to have my rent-a-defenses playing at home. I see the Bucs have been recommended, and they are at home, but the three weeks before last week's 18 points they had a combined 9 points in my league. Are they really the play?
SEA isn't bad, but their D is wearing down a bit.I'll admit that there is no knockout easy call play this week. TB isn't head and shoulders above the rest. The combination of coming off a great performance + playing a rookie QB who can take uneccessary risks + being at home was enough to give them strong consideration, but I'm not dropping DEN or TEN for them, just to play them this week.
 
Yeah, Tampa surprises a bit on there, I can't trust them, even if it is against Newton. Miami too, Palmer looks alright, no?And New Orleans is an automatic against Detroit???Is there a thread for week 13? I couldn't find it.Skins vs Sanchez?Vikes vs Tebow?
Miami D is very tough at home and Palmer was throwing picks in bunches just a few weeks agoNO should score well vs DET and force Stafford to take risksconsidered Skins vs SanchezSince the DET game, Tebow has been the essence of what you don't want in the QB your rent-a-defense faces - rarely drops back to pass and never turns the ball over.
 
Yeah, Tampa surprises a bit on there, I can't trust them, even if it is against Newton. Miami too, Palmer looks alright, no?And New Orleans is an automatic against Detroit???Is there a thread for week 13? I couldn't find it.Skins vs Sanchez?Vikes vs Tebow?
Miami D is very tough at home and Palmer was throwing picks in bunches just a few weeks agoNO should score well vs DET and force Stafford to take risksconsidered Skins vs SanchezSince the DET game, Tebow has been the essence of what you don't want in the QB your rent-a-defense faces - rarely drops back to pass and never turns the ball over.
Palmer should be rounding into form by now; I'm not putting too much weight into his first week or two.Can't disagree on NO, but still can't get behind that D.Tebow has to be due for a pick 6, or sack 6, or whatever, especially with the way they get to the QB.But who knows, I just couldn't find anything definitive. If I had to pick, it'd be NO I guess...
 
I agree that it's tough to trust the New Orleans D, but someone earlier pointed out that week 15 matchup at Minnesota. Perfect matchup for the fantasy playoffs. I own the Steelers D and am leery of their matchup at SF. The Saints DST is a stash and hold unit that you can afford to dump some bench depth for.

 
I agree that it's tough to trust the New Orleans D, but someone earlier pointed out that week 15 matchup at Minnesota. Perfect matchup for the fantasy playoffs. I own the Steelers D and am leery of their matchup at SF. The Saints DST is a stash and hold unit that you can afford to dump some bench depth for.
I've had the Saints D a few weeks this year and they are atrocious against the run... If ADP is playing I would stay away.
 
I agree that it's tough to trust the New Orleans D, but someone earlier pointed out that week 15 matchup at Minnesota. Perfect matchup for the fantasy playoffs. I own the Steelers D and am leery of their matchup at SF. The Saints DST is a stash and hold unit that you can afford to dump some bench depth for.
I've had the Saints D a few weeks this year and they are atrocious against the run... If ADP is playing I would stay away.
Thanks for your take. Now I am going to hold off on picking them up. I also have New England against Denver that week, so..
 
I picked up 2 rent-a-defenses last night. Surprised to see TEN still there with those two excellent matchups in weeks 15 and 16 (INDY and JAX). And picked up Denver which is coming on strong defensively and I like both week 13 and 14 matchups (MIN and CHI). If this works out, this is the last time I will need to go to the rent-a-defense. Good stuff Bloom. Thanks! This feature for me has been about as useful than any other subscriber content, and is must read material. :thumbup:

 
Saints get up 14-0 and DET is hucking the ball around for the entire game. Its risky, but the Saints could get some sacks, a few INT's and a garbage TD late at home. Hard to trust them though, but I have to trot them out.

 
Thanks for subscribing, hanging out in the forums, and reading the feature everyone. Although there has been a great play omitted once and a few singles where home runs or doubles were possible, I think the main thesis of Rent a Defense has been proven - drafting a defense before the last round is for suckers unless you play in a league where 75% or more of the defenses are carried week to week or you have a scoring system that heavily weights pts and yds allowed. This is especially the time of year when the rent-a-defense strategy can shine as the growing number of backup QBs at the helm makes it easier to find plum matchups...
The bolded text is the most relevant. It's very easy to account for accurate scoring on defense nowadays. I'm sure a lot of leagues still exist where the owners haven't gotten around to making defenses relevant. Hopefully that's a dying breed though. I'm sure a lot of owners are thumping their chests about how smart they are for skipping a defense. But it really suggests that you need to fix your scoring rules. It's not a good scoring system when year after year you can be more competitive by avoiding defenses until the last round.
 
Still can't believe Seattle was so low on Dodds' list this week (#26)...hate myself when I listen to that and it costs me, god dam it. Vince ####### Young (and the reeling Eagles, on a short week, going west, no less)! DUH! :wall:

So now I'm "stuck" with Houston, who is high on his list at #6. Who buys Houston here? I don't. Atlanta, who is playing better, with RYAN? Don't see them blowing up and see a conservative game against a conservative offense with that QB situation? Someone make the argument for Houston, please, cuz I don't see it...would love to hear it.

Still think WASH is the play. Strong front, 33 sacks and SANCHEESE at RFK (F fedx). Gut says this is the one. Last week gave them a little boost, too. Meanwhile, the Jets got lucky at home against a crappy Bills team. Jets still an overrated team that I could see come unglued on Sunday...or at least Sanchez anyway.

 
'ChromeWeasel said:
Thanks for subscribing, hanging out in the forums, and reading the feature everyone. Although there has been a great play omitted once and a few singles where home runs or doubles were possible, I think the main thesis of Rent a Defense has been proven - drafting a defense before the last round is for suckers unless you play in a league where 75% or more of the defenses are carried week to week or you have a scoring system that heavily weights pts and yds allowed. This is especially the time of year when the rent-a-defense strategy can shine as the growing number of backup QBs at the helm makes it easier to find plum matchups...
The bolded text is the most relevant. It's very easy to account for accurate scoring on defense nowadays. I'm sure a lot of leagues still exist where the owners haven't gotten around to making defenses relevant. Hopefully that's a dying breed though. I'm sure a lot of owners are thumping their chests about how smart they are for skipping a defense. But it really suggests that you need to fix your scoring rules. It's not a good scoring system when year after year you can be more competitive by avoiding defenses until the last round.
I disagree. I think it really suggests that the parity in the NFL means that even bad teams will have good matchups and be able to score points. additionally, the average FF owner chases points, and undervalues the effect of the matchup, whether it's a defense, or an offensive player. one of my leagues is a 14 team with an average of 26 DEFs rostered. the Def scoring is Too robust for my taste (Sea scored 30 pts last night) and enough that people draft defenses early, way to early (Baltimore went in the 7th, has scored 272 points so far). I've played rent a defense all year, my composite DEF scoring would put me at 6th overall.Avoiding defenses is just one strategy. Like waiting on QBs, for example. I happen to think its a good one.

 
Still can't believe Seattle was so low on Dodds' list this week (#26)...hate myself when I listen to that and it costs me, god dam it. Vince ####### Young (and the reeling Eagles, on a short week, going west, no less)! DUH! :wall:So now I'm "stuck" with Houston, who is high on his list at #6. Who buys Houston here? I don't. Atlanta, who is playing better, with RYAN? Don't see them blowing up and see a conservative game against a conservative offense with that QB situation? Someone make the argument for Houston, please, cuz I don't see it...would love to hear it.Still think WASH is the play. Strong front, 33 sacks and SANCHEESE at RFK (F fedx). Gut says this is the one. Last week gave them a little boost, too. Meanwhile, the Jets got lucky at home against a crappy Bills team. Jets still an overrated team that I could see come unglued on Sunday...or at least Sanchez anyway.
Yeah...this is what I am wondering, too. I have to chose between HOU and TENN this week, and part of me says stay with my "stud" HOU, and the other says go TENN. No idea what to do at this point, and waiting for somebody to convince me.
 
Still can't believe Seattle was so low on Dodds' list this week (#26)...hate myself when I listen to that and it costs me, god dam it. Vince ####### Young (and the reeling Eagles, on a short week, going west, no less)! DUH! :wall:So now I'm "stuck" with Houston, who is high on his list at #6. Who buys Houston here? I don't. Atlanta, who is playing better, with RYAN? Don't see them blowing up and see a conservative game against a conservative offense with that QB situation? Someone make the argument for Houston, please, cuz I don't see it...would love to hear it.Still think WASH is the play. Strong front, 33 sacks and SANCHEESE at RFK (F fedx). Gut says this is the one. Last week gave them a little boost, too. Meanwhile, the Jets got lucky at home against a crappy Bills team. Jets still an overrated team that I could see come unglued on Sunday...or at least Sanchez anyway.
Yeah...this is what I am wondering, too. I have to chose between HOU and TENN this week, and part of me says stay with my "stud" HOU, and the other says go TENN. No idea what to do at this point, and waiting for somebody to convince me.
I am not playing Houston this week - reason is that Ryan is a safety first qb so I don't expect ints or many sacks from the Houston D. Plus the game should move fast because of all the running attempts from both sides. Even though the Houston qb will attribute to increased three and outs on the Houston Offensive side, I just think that means more scoring opportunities for an Atlanta ball control offense.
 
Yeah, Tampa surprises a bit on there, I can't trust them, even if it is against Newton. Miami too, Palmer looks alright, no?And New Orleans is an automatic against Detroit???Is there a thread for week 13? I couldn't find it.Skins vs Sanchez?Vikes vs Tebow?
Miami D is very tough at home and Palmer was throwing picks in bunches just a few weeks agoNO should score well vs DET and force Stafford to take risksconsidered Skins vs SanchezSince the DET game, Tebow has been the essence of what you don't want in the QB your rent-a-defense faces - rarely drops back to pass and never turns the ball over.
MIA will play OAK tough at home this week and really liking the idea of them next week at home against the turnover prone EAGLESI could not land NE, however think MIA/ TEN combo this week through the playoffs is a solid strategy.
 
Picked up the Jags this week for one championship game. I have a hunch the Jags are going to play with some serious passion with the coaching change and the Monday nite spotlight. And it appears the Bolts have quit on Norv.

Fingers XXX'd

:)

 

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