Rent a Defense Week 15 (1 Viewer)

[Raiderfan32904]

Really liked the "should be owned" defenses that establish the baselines in previous rent-a-defense writeups. To compare & contrast Pittsburgh/SF for example or other owned defenses. Would have been nice to have a list of owned defenses that are better than the weeks "rent-a-defenses".

I have hung onto Tennessee for a couple of weeks in anticipation of this week's game against Indy, but Bloom has Arizona slightly better against the Browns. Both should be good, but which do you like better? Zona is on the wire, and I could just as easily grab them if I still want them. And I'm not feeling the Saints pourous defense. For the money, and for the shot at getting to the SHIPS, which rent-a-defense is the money play this week?

AZ or TEN?

 

[rickyg]

I too have the option of picking up AZ. If I knew McCoy would be playing I think it would be a great play. I actually think Seneca Wallace is an upgrade over mccoy though. He is more mobile and can make plays with his feet. He has a better arm and can make big throws down field to cribbed and little.

The cards wont have too much tape to go on with Wallace either....not in pay shurmurs WCO at least. I think it's a trap game for us fantasy owners thinking it is a juicy matchup for ari d.

Don't be surprised if the browns score early and often with Wallace as qb.

 

[rickyg]

I'd much rather play tenn vs Indy

 

[OnTheReg]

What about Giants at home vs. Washington? Or even Seattle at Chicago?

 

[TheFootballJesus]

Picked up seattle last week and I liked what I saw enough to go with them this week. I think the bears have scored 1 offensive touchdown in the past 2 weeks.

 

[Bolebuns]

I have Houston, but can get Tenn.

Worth going to the wire for Tenn here?

 

[thriftyrocker]

I wouldn't play Seattle on the road vs. a team that desperately needs a win. Seems like a game Chicago dominates with defense, and Hanie doesn't have to do much.

I'm probably going Bengals over AZ and TEN.

 

[5-ish Finkle]

I'd much rather play tenn vs Indy

At first blush I'd agree with this, buuut.....not as cut and dried when I looked closer. AZ is more likely to get sacks(or has been to this point, anyway) while Tennessee has a handful more takeaways. If your scoring system is weighted one way or the other that could be a deciding factor for you.AZ has the Peterson factor on returns as well.I think either will wind up working pretty well this week regardless.

 

[Mr. Mojo]

Is Cincy available? (@ St. Louis)

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

widely owned Ds I would definitely rank ahead of rent-a-d

GB

NE

PIT/SF is close - looking back at BAL/SF, BAL the home team was a great play, battering Smith, while SF was a complete dud. MNF, SF crowd gives PIT risk factor, and quality of PIT gives SF risk factor. I would probably opt for ARI/TEN over them, right around #3/#4 rent-a-d is where i probably go SF/PIT

 

[TheFootballJesus]

widely owned Ds I would definitely rank ahead of rent-a-dGBNEPIT/SF is close - looking back at BAL/SF, BAL the home team was a great play, battering Smith, while SF was a complete dud. MNF, SF crowd gives PIT risk factor, and quality of PIT gives SF risk factor. I would probably opt for ARI/TEN over them, right around #3/#4 rent-a-d is where i probably go SF/PIT

Really? New England?Obviously this varies from league to league but in my league Chicagos only defense that's put up double digit points on the Broncos since Tebow took over.Tim Tebow is a lot of things but he definitely doesn't seem to get sacked much or turn the ball over...

 

[fordhampro]

Where would Cinci rank? Have both Cinci and Tenn and trying to decide.

 

[ShaHBucks]

A while ago I posted phi/oak as a playoff D getting mia-nyj-kc. So far so good

 

[bonesman]

PIT/SF is close - looking back at BAL/SF, BAL the home team was a great play, battering Smith, while SF was a complete dud. MNF, SF crowd gives PIT risk factor, and quality of PIT gives SF risk factor. I would probably opt for ARI/TEN over them, right around #3/#4 rent-a-d is where i probably go SF/PIT

I don't think I can start the Cards over the Ravens.

 

[BRONG]

Is Houston a no-brainer? I've read some that think otherwise, after clinching and stuff...

Similarly, Tenn may not be a slam-dunk. either. Indy's got to try and get a win here, no?

 

[UnderDawgs]

I had the Seahawks for wk 15 and switched them out for Tenn.

 

[T J]

Is Houston a no-brainer? I've read some that think otherwise, after clinching and stuff...Similarly, Tenn may not be a slam-dunk. either. Indy's got to try and get a win here, no?

They've tried for 13 weeks and we've all seen how that's gone. I'm a Colts fan and I definitely think Tennessee is a solid play.

 

[Mimo]

widely owned Ds I would definitely rank ahead of rent-a-dGBNEPIT/SF is close - looking back at BAL/SF, BAL the home team was a great play, battering Smith, while SF was a complete dud. MNF, SF crowd gives PIT risk factor, and quality of PIT gives SF risk factor. I would probably opt for ARI/TEN over them, right around #3/#4 rent-a-d is where i probably go SF/PIT

Really? New England?Obviously this varies from league to league but in my league Chicagos only defense that's put up double digit points on the Broncos since Tebow took over.Tim Tebow is a lot of things but he definitely doesn't seem to get sacked much or turn the ball over...

Detroit put up double digits as well vs Tebow and the Broncos

 

[KellysHeroes]

been riding the cowboys... they should destory TB

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

widely owned Ds I would definitely rank ahead of rent-a-dGBNEPIT/SF is close - looking back at BAL/SF, BAL the home team was a great play, battering Smith, while SF was a complete dud. MNF, SF crowd gives PIT risk factor, and quality of PIT gives SF risk factor. I would probably opt for ARI/TEN over them, right around #3/#4 rent-a-d is where i probably go SF/PIT

Really? New England?Obviously this varies from league to league but in my league Chicagos only defense that's put up double digit points on the Broncos since Tebow took over.Tim Tebow is a lot of things but he definitely doesn't seem to get sacked much or turn the ball over...

I'd imagine if NE can open up a two-score lead, Tebow will have to get out of his comfort zone a la the Detroit game. Plus, Belichick is someone I trust to discover a few flaws to exploit.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Where would Cinci rank? Have both Cinci and Tenn and trying to decide.

Probably on a par with any of bottom 3 - in theory could do something at STL, but Bradford didn't turn the ball over much or take a ton of sacks at SEA and CIN was cold until last week vs. HOU. Prefer TEN for sure.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

I'd much rather play tenn vs Indy

At first blush I'd agree with this, buuut.....not as cut and dried when I looked closer. AZ is more likely to get sacks(or has been to this point, anyway) while Tennessee has a handful more takeaways. If your scoring system is weighted one way or the other that could be a deciding factor for you.AZ has the Peterson factor on returns as well.I think either will wind up working pretty well this week regardless.

I like them both, but I what tips the scales for me is that Tennessee played the mighty Saints pretty well last week and are still playing for the playoffs, and Arizona is just playing out the string. It's hard to say if they bring the intensity, but you know that Tennessee will. Indy has been moving the ball well under Orlovsky, but the turnover potential is too great to pass up. Advantage: TEN

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

I'd much rather play tenn vs Indy

At first blush I'd agree with this, buuut.....not as cut and dried when I looked closer. AZ is more likely to get sacks(or has been to this point, anyway) while Tennessee has a handful more takeaways. If your scoring system is weighted one way or the other that could be a deciding factor for you.AZ has the Peterson factor on returns as well.I think either will wind up working pretty well this week regardless.

I like them both, but I what tips the scales for me is that Tennessee played the mighty Saints pretty well last week and are still playing for the playoffs, and Arizona is just playing out the string. It's hard to say if they bring the intensity, but you know that Tennessee will. Indy has been moving the ball well under Orlovsky, but the turnover potential is too great to pass up. Advantage: TEN

Arizona has had one dud at home this year - Pittsburgh - and they put up fight throughout that game. Beat Carolina, Dallas, SF, STL, all but beat the Giants in the other five games. Arizona has actually beaten two division-leading teams (DAL/SF) in their last two games. 14 sacks in their 3 home games, 5 in each of their last two...

 

[FDC]

"and Arizona is just playing out the string."

Thats what I thought too but sadly it seems like have a decent shot...

http://arizonasports.com/40/1477861/Breaking-down-Cardinals-playoff-chances

 

[solorca]

Bloom,

Is there any chance that you will rank defenses next year? I really enjoy the feature, but I have an unusual league where a large number of defenses are rostered. Usually, only one (if any) of the defenses you list are available in my league.

I've managed to do ok this season by going with my gut on picks (my gut picks are about the 5th ranked defene if compared against individual teams), but I think your rankings could certainly help.

To contribute to the thread, I'll be going with Atlanta this week. While the Jags showed some signs of life last week, I have faith that the Falcons, who need to keep winning to make the playoffs, will come out hot on Thursday night.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bloom,Is there any chance that you will rank defenses next year? I really enjoy the feature, but I have an unusual league where a large number of defenses are rostered. Usually, only one (if any) of the defenses you list are available in my league.I've managed to do ok this season by going with my gut on picks (my gut picks are about the 5th ranked defene if compared against individual teams), but I think your rankings could certainly help.To contribute to the thread, I'll be going with Atlanta this week. While the Jags showed some signs of life last week, I have faith that the Falcons, who need to keep winning to make the playoffs, will come out hot on Thursday night.

will try to get that in the works!

 

[shuke]

Similarly, Tenn may not be a slam-dunk. either. Indy's got to try and get a win here, no?

They haven't been trying all year?

 

[howo5]

Hi Bloom,

I'm rather surprised as well as your high ranking of the Patriots D this weekend. How do you like them vs. say Atlanta at home vs. the Jags?

 

[Grahamburn]

So Arizona or Tennessee over the 49ers against a possibly less than 100% Big Ben? Interesting.

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

No slam dunks but either Tennessee or Atlanta look like good picks to me.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Hi Bloom,I'm rather surprised as well as your high ranking of the Patriots D this weekend. How do you like them vs. say Atlanta at home vs. the Jags?

I prefer NE - combo of Tebow potentially playing from behind and Belichick finding some defensive cheat codes against him

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

After the Pats 4th quarter performance vs Indy, I no longer trust that defense.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

After the Pats 4th quarter performance vs Indy, I no longer trust that defense.

lots of defenses let up when they are up 31-3

 

[Area51Inhabitant]

My gut feeling about New England this week just isn't good. I'm thinking Tim Tebow will have his best passing game of the season this week.

 

[Raiderfan32904]

My gut feeling about New England this week just isn't good. I'm thinking Tim Tebow will have his best passing game of the season this week.

Agreed. I also like the Broncos to at least hold serve offensively. That's why I think Prater is a good pickup at home in the altitude. Tebow should have them in the red zone multiple times. I still think NE wins, but it should be a shootout.

 

[shadyridr]

Im also deciding between CINCY & TEN. right now leaning CINCY

 

[Raiderfan32904]

Bloom,Is there any chance that you will rank defenses next year? I really enjoy the feature, but I have an unusual league where a large number of defenses are rostered. Usually, only one (if any) of the defenses you list are available in my league.I've managed to do ok this season by going with my gut on picks (my gut picks are about the 5th ranked defene if compared against individual teams), but I think your rankings could certainly help.To contribute to the thread, I'll be going with Atlanta this week. While the Jags showed some signs of life last week, I have faith that the Falcons, who need to keep winning to make the playoffs, will come out hot on Thursday night.

will try to get that in the works!

Another suggestion, if possible. I'd love to be in that "war-room" when Dodd's/Henry/Herman rank their kickers, if one exists. I'd like to think it's more than throwing darts at the wall or relying on computers to spit out data. There should be some analysis going on that backs up why a kicker is rated high or low in any week. (kinda like the side comments that Bloom puts into his positional rankings). I think a "rent-a-kicker" article is in order. You could put a disclaimer at the front that kickers are all a crap shoot, and no one should be allowed to flame you for your rankings. I'd hold my criticism regardless. I know others won't. But other than a roster of kickers ranked 1 to 32, there's little to hang your hat on when making a roster change to pick up the best kicker.Rent-a-defense (to me) is easily the most valuable subscription material other than the updated rankings. Great work here FBG's!

 

[3 hour lunch]

Was thinking of dropping NE for Tenn, Atl or AZ, but now re-thinking. I think NE has big possibilities, but also wouldn't be surprised to see them give up 30 points. My league gives decent points for a D that gives up 17 or less points. In that case, I'd say the other 3 are the better plays, no?

 

[Akira]

Sounds like Seneca Wallace might start this week for the Browns vs. the Cardinals. Arizona is looking like a great pickup for Week 15.

 

[BRONG]

Similarly, Tenn may not be a slam-dunk. either. Indy's got to try and get a win here, no?

They haven't been trying all year?

Is that what I said?

 

[shuke]

Similarly, Tenn may not be a slam-dunk. either. Indy's got to try and get a win here, no?

They haven't been trying all year?

Is that what I said?

Indy is probably top 5 for the season in fantasy points allowed to opposing defenses in most scoring systems, and you are insinuating that this week will be different because they're going to try extra hard to get a win. No?

 

[BRONG]

Similarly, Tenn may not be a slam-dunk. either. Indy's got to try and get a win here, no?

They haven't been trying all year?

Is that what I said?

Indy is probably top 5 for the season in fantasy points allowed to opposing defenses in most scoring systems, and you are insinuating that this week will be different because they're going to try extra hard to get a win. No?

How hard were they trying when they lost by 55? Whatever, it's not my point. I just thought they might be able to stay with Tennessee and their rookie QB this week. In which case, yeah, I think they see this as probably their best chance to finally get a win...especially with Houston next week and then on the road. I never said they weren't trying all year...I just think there might be extra motivation this week. And if they stay in the game, they won't have to heave the ball all around.

 

[Sigmund Bloom]

Bloom,Is there any chance that you will rank defenses next year? I really enjoy the feature, but I have an unusual league where a large number of defenses are rostered. Usually, only one (if any) of the defenses you list are available in my league.I've managed to do ok this season by going with my gut on picks (my gut picks are about the 5th ranked defene if compared against individual teams), but I think your rankings could certainly help.To contribute to the thread, I'll be going with Atlanta this week. While the Jags showed some signs of life last week, I have faith that the Falcons, who need to keep winning to make the playoffs, will come out hot on Thursday night.

will try to get that in the works!

Another suggestion, if possible. I'd love to be in that "war-room" when Dodd's/Henry/Herman rank their kickers, if one exists. I'd like to think it's more than throwing darts at the wall or relying on computers to spit out data. There should be some analysis going on that backs up why a kicker is rated high or low in any week. (kinda like the side comments that Bloom puts into his positional rankings). I think a "rent-a-kicker" article is in order. You could put a disclaimer at the front that kickers are all a crap shoot, and no one should be allowed to flame you for your rankings. I'd hold my criticism regardless. I know others won't. But other than a roster of kickers ranked 1 to 32, there's little to hang your hat on when making a roster change to pick up the best kicker.Rent-a-defense (to me) is easily the most valuable subscription material other than the updated rankings. Great work here FBG's!

great idea - have forwarded on to Mike Herman

 

[solorca]

On that subject, and because I know you are paying attention to this thread, I would like to say that your "notes" section is the best improvement I've seen on FBG's in quite a while. It's one thing to have Jake Ballard ranked as the #2 TE for the week, but when you provide a valid reason...even with just a short comment, it's much easier to understand and use the information to make your own decision.

 

[SaintsInDome2006]

Similarly, Tenn may not be a slam-dunk. either. Indy's got to try and get a win here, no?

They haven't been trying all year?

Is that what I said?

Indy is probably top 5 for the season in fantasy points allowed to opposing defenses in most scoring systems, and you are insinuating that this week will be different because they're going to try extra hard to get a win. No?

How hard were they trying when they lost by 55? Whatever, it's not my point. I just thought they might be able to stay with Tennessee and their rookie QB this week. In which case, yeah, I think they see this as probably their best chance to finally get a win...especially with Houston next week and then on the road. I never said they weren't trying all year...I just think there might be extra motivation this week. And if they stay in the game, they won't have to heave the ball all around.

You know, thanks for the excellent insights on this board, I have retained (Hoarded) TEN, HOU and Seattle all for this weekend. At first and for a while I thought TEN would be the definite automatic start, as soon as Indy switched to Orlovsky though I have been thinking Seattle which I now still have plugged in from last week.

 

[Crash and Walk Away]

On that subject, and because I know you are paying attention to this thread, I would like to say that your "notes" section is the best improvement I've seen on FBG's in quite a while. It's one thing to have Jake Ballard ranked as the #2 TE for the week, but when you provide a valid reason...even with just a short comment, it's much easier to understand and use the information to make your own decision.

I second this comment/compliment.

 

[BRONG]

Similarly, Tenn may not be a slam-dunk. either. Indy's got to try and get a win here, no?

They haven't been trying all year?

Is that what I said?

Indy is probably top 5 for the season in fantasy points allowed to opposing defenses in most scoring systems, and you are insinuating that this week will be different because they're going to try extra hard to get a win. No?

How hard were they trying when they lost by 55? Whatever, it's not my point. I just thought they might be able to stay with Tennessee and their rookie QB this week. In which case, yeah, I think they see this as probably their best chance to finally get a win...especially with Houston next week and then on the road. I never said they weren't trying all year...I just think there might be extra motivation this week. And if they stay in the game, they won't have to heave the ball all around.

You know, thanks for the excellent insights on this board, I have retained (Hoarded) TEN, HOU and Seattle all for this weekend. At first and for a while I thought TEN would be the definite automatic start, as soon as Indy switched to Orlovsky though I have been thinking Seattle which I now still have plugged in from last week.

Wow, I have done the exact same thing as you (collected HOU, CHI, SEA). And I actually have Houston plugged in, haha...

 

[DocHolliday]

Im also deciding between CINCY & TEN. right now leaning CINCY

I'm in the same boat. Today, I am going with Cincy as well.

 

[UnderDawgs]

NO (vs Minn) is available on my WW.

Anyone?

 

[ShaHBucks]

Digging deep J.P. Losman might start vs the Bills