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I know this has been discussed a time or two in passing on this board but I would be curious to hear if there is anyone who thinks blacks in America should receive reperations for slavery, and if so what are your arguments in favor of your position?

I think there are some interesting points made in the article below in arguements against reperations.

Ten Reasons Why Reparations for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks - and Racist Too

.....althought I think #9 is a bit of a stretch.

 
I just saw a black woman on the Colbert Report arguing that Barack Obama isn't black.

There's a lot of dumb people out there.

 
I don't think that minorities in general get a fair shake, but I will admit that this seems like a pretty strong argument to me:

"Only A Tiny Minority Of White Americans Ever Owned Slaves, And Others Gave Their Lives To Free Them"

 
I was a slave for my wife on Saturday. I asked for reparations that night, and she said she was tired.

So white people are getting screwed as well.

:shock:

 
If any former slaves want something, I could possibly consider that.

Actually, no I couldn't. I'm sure the statute of limitations has already passed. And to make reparations to someone today simply because they belong to the same race as a former slave is just, well, stupid.

 
Black Africans and Arabs were responsible for enslaving the ancestors of African-Americans.
My daughter is working on a report on the Empire of Benin which existed in Africa for hundreds of years and reached its peak between 1400 and 1600. One of the main things with this empire is that they conquered other people and sold them into slavery.
 
If freed blacks who owned property were shanghaied back into slavery..then I wouldn't neccessarily be opposed to reparations. Of course good luck proving any linneage or ownership of said property.

 
I know this has been discussed a time or two in passing on this board but I would be curious to hear if there is anyone who thinks blacks in America should receive reperations for slavery, and if so what are your arguments in favor of your position?

I think there are some interesting points made in the article below in arguements against reperations.

Ten Reasons Why Reparations for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks - and Racist Too

.....althought I think #9 is a bit of a stretch.
Hi OTR,What do these reparations consist of exactly?

J

 
I'm for reparations. With the caveat that with that "leveling of the playing field" we can kiss affirmative action good bye. Also, it would be a tremdous boost to the economy as a lot of the money would be spent.

 
I'm for reparations. With the caveat that with that "leveling of the playing field" we can kiss affirmative action good bye. Also, it would be a tremdous boost to the economy as a lot of the money would be spent.
Here's my idea for reparations: we give everyone who wants it a one way ticket back to the land of their ancestors. Once they realize how good they have it in America, they can apply for repatriation.I think we should do this for blue state European-Americans too, but don't repatriate them!
 
I'm for reparations. With the caveat that with that "leveling of the playing field" we can kiss affirmative action good bye. Also, it would be a tremdous boost to the economy as a lot of the money would be spent.
Here's my idea for reparations: we give everyone who wants it a one way ticket back to the land of their ancestors.
I really dont wanna have to go back to Scotland.
 
I'm for reparations. With the caveat that with that "leveling of the playing field" we can kiss affirmative action good bye. Also, it would be a tremdous boost to the economy as a lot of the money would be spent.
Here's my idea for reparations: we give everyone who wants it a one way ticket back to the land of their ancestors.
I really dont wanna have to go back to Scotland.
If you're from a red state, we make it a round trip ticket though.
 
Here you go, the answer to reparations.

You are eligible for reparations if at any time in your life YOU WERE A SLAVE. If not, shut the f up. I don't care that your great great great grandfather was a slave. You aren't, end of discussion.

 
I just saw a black woman on the Colbert Report arguing that Barack Obama isn't black.There's a lot of dumb people out there.
that was pretty incredible. she was calling him an "african-african-american". i was hoping colbert would slap her.
 
I know this has been discussed a time or two in passing on this board but I would be curious to hear if there is anyone who thinks blacks in America should receive reperations for slavery, and if so what are your arguments in favor of your position?
No. Because no black person I know was ever a slave.
 
I just saw a black woman on the Colbert Report arguing that Barack Obama isn't black.There's a lot of dumb people out there.
that was pretty incredible. she was calling him an "african-african-american". i was hoping colbert would slap her.
His father is Kenyan, thus he's more "African" than he'll ever be "African-American". "African-American" is moreso "descended from American slaves". He's as "African-American" as Sammy Sosa is.
 
I just saw a black woman on the Colbert Report arguing that Barack Obama isn't black.There's a lot of dumb people out there.
that was pretty incredible. she was calling him an "african-african-american". i was hoping colbert would slap her.
His father is Kenyan, thus he's more "African" than he'll ever be "African-American". "African-American" is moreso "descended from American slaves". He's as "African-American" as Sammy Sosa is.
Sosa's mother was a white American?
 
Here you go, the answer to reparations.

You are eligible for reparations if at any time in your life YOU WERE A SLAVE. If not, shut the f up. I don't care that your great great great grandfather was a slave. You aren't, and the fact that he was has had no impact on your lot in life whatsoever end of discussion.
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I just saw a black woman on the Colbert Report arguing that Barack Obama isn't black.There's a lot of dumb people out there.
that was pretty incredible. she was calling him an "african-african-american". i was hoping colbert would slap her.
His father is Kenyan, thus he's more "African" than he'll ever be "African-American". "African-American" is moreso "descended from American slaves". He's as "African-American" as Sammy Sosa is.
I understand the difference but talk about splitting hairs. She was arguing that he's not really black. If you want to call him an african african american then be my guest, but that is ridiculous. There are better things to whine about.
 
I'd be willing to throw in a couple bucks if we could just let it go already.

In fact, throw a few bucks to the Jews, Japanese, and the Christians as well -- you know, the whole fed to the lions thing. We'll take a collection and afterwards we'll all be even.

 
I'd be willing to throw in a couple bucks if we could just let it go already.

In fact, throw a few bucks to the Jews, Japanese, and the Christians as well -- you know, the whole fed to the lions thing. We'll take a collection and afterwards we'll all be even.
Lets toss some cash to the Irish lads that could not get work when they came here, and were dicriminated against.http://www.celticdragonpubco.com/shop/nina2cd.jpg

 
I'd be willing to throw in a couple bucks if we could just let it go already.In fact, throw a few bucks to the Jews, Japanese, and the Christians as well -- you know, the whole fed to the lions thing. We'll take a collection and afterwards we'll all be even.
Native Americans down? I don't get a cut of any casino money and my ancestors were persecuted.
 
I definitely think that reparations should be paid. Had it not been for slavery, almost all African-Americans would currently reside somewhere in Africa. So it should be easy to calculate the difference between African-American per-capita income and African per-capita income to see how their economic standing was affected by slavery. I'm sure all civil rights leaders will join me in demanding reparations that re-set black incomes at their proper contintental African levels.

 
I know this has been discussed a time or two in passing on this board but I would be curious to hear if there is anyone who thinks blacks in America should receive reperations for slavery, and if so what are your arguments in favor of your position?

I think there are some interesting points made in the article below in arguements against reperations.

Ten Reasons Why Reparations for Blacks is a Bad Idea for Blacks - and Racist Too

.....althought I think #9 is a bit of a stretch.
Hi OTR,What do these reparations consist of exactly?

J
I don't know that anyone that has argued in favor of reparations has ever layed out a plan of what those reperations should be.I surfed a few sites and found some interesting information:

Reperations Central: "Show Me The Money" :deadhorse:

"Project 21" :moneybag:

 
It does seem weird that we gave the native Americans independent reservations and still honor that, but promised all freed slaves 40 acres and a mule and didn't give them ####. I'd be in favor of some kind of economic tax on some of the old money companies that made billions in todays dollars of the backs of all those years of free labor/slavery and then put the money into programs like UNCF and mentoring programs etc.

 
I definitely think that reparations should be paid. Had it not been for slavery, almost all African-Americans would currently reside somewhere in Africa. So it should be easy to calculate the difference between African-American per-capita income and African per-capita income to see how their economic standing was affected by slavery. I'm sure all civil rights leaders will join me in demanding reparations that re-set black incomes at their proper contintental African levels.
:goodposting: Walter Williams says that he's thankful that his ancestors were slaves because he sure as heck wouldn't want to be living in Africa!He also tells a story about how one day he was out raking his leaves. A guy slowed down, pulled over and told him that the yard looked terrific and asked him if he'd be willing to rake his leaves too. You see, the idiot assumed that since Williams was black and in a nice neighborhood, that he worked for a lawn company. But Williams didn't get upset, he just laughed and told the guy that he'd be more than willing to rake his leaves, but that he was pretty sure that the guy couldn't afford his rates. :lmao: GB people that are thankful for what they have and don't attribute malice to actions that are more easily explained by ignorance/stupidity. Appreciating what you have and not taking offense to every moronic person out there will give you much more joy and happiness.
 
This group wants reparations TO Africa (much of it in cancellation of third world debt) , not to the descendents of slaves. While you can argue that the descendants of slaves may not deserve an economic windfall, I think it is fair that we compensate the nations whose capital reserves (human capital reserves that is) were plundered at a time when human labor costs was one incredibly important to the development of a nation. I think the cancellation of third world debts (which opens another whole can of worms thread) is a pretty fair way to pay back this debt and maybe allow us to move forward. I think their 777 trillion figure is obviously laughable, but they are including damages and pain and suffering for colonialism there too.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/424984.stm

he West is being asked to pay Africa $777 thousand billion within five years in reparation for enslaving Africans while colonising the continent.

Co-Chairperson Debra Kofie: We feel the figure is very fair

The African World Reparations and Repatriation Truth Commission, meeting in Accra for its first international conference, also called for all international debt owed by Africa to be "unconditionally cancelled''.

The Accra Declaration issued at the conference says that money will be demanded from ''all those nations of Western Europe and the Americas and institutions, who participated and benefited from the slave trade and colonialism''.

Repatriation and reparation

The conference, co-chaired by Dr Hamet Maulana and Mrs Debra Kofie, announced plans to set up an international team of lawyers from Africa and the diaspora to pursue all legal means to collect the money.

The group will also be contacting the International Court of Justice, as well as the United Nations and the Organization of African Unity for assistance.

Mrs Kofie told the BBC the reparation figure was based on the number of human lives lost to Africa during the slave-trade, as well as an assessment of the worth of the gold, diamonds and other minerals taken from the continent during colonial rule.

She says Africa's turn has come. "We are the only group that have not received reparations. The Jewish people have received reparations. The native Americans have received reparations. The Korean comfort women and so-on and so forth," she said.

The declaration added that all those in the diaspora, who want to return and settle in Africa, should be allowed to do so and that those who enslaved and colonised Africa should provide seaworthy vessels and aircraft for such repatriation.

Between 1450 and 1850, it is estimated that at least 12 million Africans and probably many more were shipped from Africa across the Atlantic Ocean, primarily to colonies in North America, South America, and the West Indies.

The United States has never formally apologised for its participation in the slave trade.

A further 20 million slaves are estimated to have been exported to other parts of the world, in particular the Middle East and North Africa, over a similar time period.

Contrary to widespread belief, slavery is still practised in some parts of Africa, including Sudan and West Africa.

 
This group wants reparations TO Africa (much of it in cancellation of third world debt) , not to the descendents of slaves. While you can argue that the descendants of slaves may not deserve an economic windfall, I think it is fair that we compensate the nations whose capital reserves (human capital reserves that is) were plundered at a time when human labor costs was one incredibly important to the development of a nation. I think the cancellation of third world debts (which opens another whole can of worms thread) is a pretty fair way to pay back this debt and maybe allow us to move forward. I think their 777 trillion figure is obviously laughable, but they are including damages and pain and suffering for colonialism there too.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/africa/424984.stm

he West is being asked to pay Africa $777 thousand billion within five years in reparation for enslaving Africans while colonising the continent.

Co-Chairperson Debra Kofie: We feel the figure is very fair

The African World Reparations and Repatriation Truth Commission, meeting in Accra for its first international conference, also called for all international debt owed by Africa to be "unconditionally cancelled''.

The Accra Declaration issued at the conference says that money will be demanded from ''all those nations of Western Europe and the Americas and institutions, who participated and benefited from the slave trade and colonialism''.

Repatriation and reparation

The conference, co-chaired by Dr Hamet Maulana and Mrs Debra Kofie, announced plans to set up an international team of lawyers from Africa and the diaspora to pursue all legal means to collect the money.

The group will also be contacting the International Court of Justice, as well as the United Nations and the Organization of African Unity for assistance.

Mrs Kofie told the BBC the reparation figure was based on the number of human lives lost to Africa during the slave-trade, as well as an assessment of the worth of the gold, diamonds and other minerals taken from the continent during colonial rule.

She says Africa's turn has come. "We are the only group that have not received reparations. The Jewish people have received reparations. The native Americans have received reparations. The Korean comfort women and so-on and so forth," she said.

The declaration added that all those in the diaspora, who want to return and settle in Africa, should be allowed to do so and that those who enslaved and colonised Africa should provide seaworthy vessels and aircraft for such repatriation.

Between 1450 and 1850, it is estimated that at least 12 million Africans and probably many more were shipped from Africa across the Atlantic Ocean, primarily to colonies in North America, South America, and the West Indies.

The United States has never formally apologised for its participation in the slave trade.

A further 20 million slaves are estimated to have been exported to other parts of the world, in particular the Middle East and North Africa, over a similar time period.

Contrary to widespread belief, slavery is still practised in some parts of Africa, including Sudan and West Africa.
Sorry but Africans were selling us Africans. I don't buy this one either.
 

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