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Report: Brett Favre decides to stay retired (1 Viewer)

Haven't scrolled through the thread, but.... via Rotoworld.com

NFL Network's Scott Hanson reports that free agent Brett Favre "will continue to throw and work out" despite telling Vikings coach Brad Childress Tuesday that he wanted to stay retired.You've got to be kidding. Favre reportedly said he's still not totally sure about whether he'll stay retired or try to play, even after "confirming" he'd re-re-retire to Childress and in an ESPN interview. Asked by Steve Mariucci how he'd feel about his decision on Wednesday morning, Favre replied "I'm wondering that myself." It wouldn't shock us one bit if Favre "gets the itch" again and tries to come back late in camp or even after the season kicks off.
Come on back Brett. YOU'RE NOT TOO OLD!!!
 
He stays retired until the end of training camp nears.

I never thought that he would come back, just to put himself through training camp. I say he waits it out and then informs them he wants back in.

 
He stays retired until the end of training camp nears.I never thought that he would come back, just to put himself through training camp. I say he waits it out and then informs them he wants back in.
That's never been his style. He always pracitced as hard as he played. He always loved football even at practice.
 
I think I'm in the minority in these forums but I'm disappointed. As a Bears fan I would have paid to have Favre killed 10-15 years ago but I've grown to really enjoy watching him. I would have been excited to see the drama unfold this year and would have rooted for the Vikings except for when they played the Bears.

I can't help but like him in spite of his waffling ways. I'll never be able to blame anyone for having a very hard time walking away from football. I have a feeling that in 10 years he'll regret not taking this chance.

 
With Favre out of the picture, Childress must be desperate to find another strong armed, experienced QB to demoralize his current starters with. With his keen eye for talent, how long will it be until Jeff George gets offered a multi-million dollar contract to play for the Vikings?  

 
I'm still thinking about different ways to read this decision. A fool's errand, of course, but anyway, possibilities...

- He got a whiff of something he didn't like in Minn. once they made serious overtures, be it the coach, the way they described their plan for offense with Favre, etc.

- He decided his best chance to play deep into the playoffs was not to start from Week 1. He'll wait for a decent or good team to lose their QB later in the season, or to struggle early and give him a call (in this scenario he could still end up with the Vikings)

- With everyone taking his involvement with Minn. for granted, he has had secret discussions with another team or teams

The announcement that he'll keep training says that he wants to play. The fact that he walked away from a sure thing contract says he'll only do it on his terms, whatever they may be.

 
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I'm still thinking about different ways to read this decision. A fool's errand, of course, but anyway, possibilities...- He got a whiff of something he didn't like in Minn. once they made serious overtures, be it the coach, the way they described their plan for offense with Favre, etc.- He decided his best chance to play deep into the playoffs was not to start from Week 1. He'll wait for a decent or good team to lose their QB later in the season, or to struggle early and give him a call (in this scenario he could still end up with the Vikings)- With everyone taking his involvement with Minn. for granted, he has had secret discussions with another team or teamsThe announcement that he'll keep training says that he wants to play. The fact that he walked away from a sure thing contract says he'll only do it on his terms, whatever they may be.
or it could be what he told Werder today that he didn't think he'd make it through the season and his knee is swelling in addition to having ankle issues too.
 
He stays retired until the end of training camp nears.

I never thought that he would come back, just to put himself through training camp. I say he waits it out and then informs them he wants back in.
That's never been his style. He always pracitced as hard as he played. He always loved football even at practice.
Rumor has it that Favre showed up drunk for several practices when he was in Atlanta.  
 
He stays retired until the end of training camp nears.

I never thought that he would come back, just to put himself through training camp. I say he waits it out and then informs them he wants back in.
That's never been his style. He always pracitced as hard as he played. He always loved football even at practice.
Rumor has it that Favre showed up drunk for several practices when he was in Atlanta.  
Rumor has it that Favre learned a lot since his rookie season. :bow: :bow:
 
I am pleased this has happened as i did not want to see Favre in purple, and frankly i believe the Vikings did tamper with Favre. The latter will never be proven without Favre's cooperation, but I believe it nonetheless. the Vikings reward is going to now be that they have alienated their own guys. I know they and their supporters will opine otherwise, but that is merely spin. Why they messed with the development of Jackson, and I did see and fear his development, is beyond me. Desperation I guess.

 
I am loving that this one guy in my FF league drafted him YESTERDAY! We only get 8 waiver wire moves during the season! Guess he is down to 7 now!! HAHAHAHA

 
Soo...he's not sure if he's sure he's retiring?

:lmao:

I didn't believe this news and I still won't believe it until the season starts and he's not behind center.

 
I love the "team begging one player" act.

According to a report by ESPN.com's Ed Werder, Favre is reportedly "anguished about whether he should come out of retirement and join the team.” The story goes on to say Favre may have already decided not to play for the Vikings this season if it weren't for some key Vikings players staying in contact with the free agent quarterback.Werder's sources claim, in recent days, Adrian Peterson, Steve Hutchinson and Jared Allen have been calling and texting Favre, telling him they want him on the team when Training Camp starts.
"They were telling me, 'You went through all this, you had the surgery and you've got to finish it off.' But I have legitimate reasons for my decision. I'm 39 with a lot of sacks to my name."
Nah, he's not in this for the attention. :mellow:
 
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I love the "team begging one player" act.

According to a report by ESPN.com's Ed Werder, Favre is reportedly "anguished about whether he should come out of retirement and join the team.” The story goes on to say Favre may have already decided not to play for the Vikings this season if it weren't for some key Vikings players staying in contact with the free agent quarterback.Werder's sources claim, in recent days, Adrian Peterson, Steve Hutchinson and Jared Allen have been calling and texting Favre, telling him they want him on the team when Training Camp starts.
"They were telling me, 'You went through all this, you had the surgery and you've got to finish it off.' But I have legitimate reasons for my decision. I'm 39 with a lot of sacks to my name."
Nah, he's not in this for the attention. :thumbup:
Laugh all you want, but you are starting to look silly. It appears it was in fact not for the attention but rather due to concerns about health. Understandable ones.If it were attention, why would he not have strung the Vikings out further? That is, by all accounts they offered to give him more time, through training camp, and he declined.Could it not be that he needed to work out to see if his health was where he wanted it to be? Or that he has a hard time with life after football?He declined despite a lot of pressure to either accede or delay, and you just stick to your schtick. Really, old and tired Fatness. It was never about attention, it was always about whether he was up to playing another season, which makes sense coming off injury and surgery.
 
I love the "team begging one player" act.

According to a report by ESPN.com's Ed Werder, Favre is reportedly "anguished about whether he should come out of retirement and join the team.” The story goes on to say Favre may have already decided not to play for the Vikings this season if it weren't for some key Vikings players staying in contact with the free agent quarterback.Werder's sources claim, in recent days, Adrian Peterson, Steve Hutchinson and Jared Allen have been calling and texting Favre, telling him they want him on the team when Training Camp starts.
"They were telling me, 'You went through all this, you had the surgery and you've got to finish it off.' But I have legitimate reasons for my decision. I'm 39 with a lot of sacks to my name."
Nah, he's not in this for the attention. :thumbup:
Laugh all you want, but you are starting to look silly. It appears it was in fact not for the attention but rather due to concerns about health. Understandable ones.If it were attention, why would he not have strung the Vikings out further? That is, by all accounts they offered to give him more time, through training camp, and he declined.Could it not be that he needed to work out to see if his health was where he wanted it to be? Or that he has a hard time with life after football?He declined despite a lot of pressure to either accede or delay, and you just stick to your schtick. Really, old and tired Fatness. It was never about attention, it was always about whether he was up to playing another season, which makes sense coming off injury and surgery.
ook - I'm as big of a Favre fan as there is, but he continues to look like a drama queen. Or a waffling buffoon. Either way, it doesn't look good.
 
I love the "team begging one player" act.

According to a report by ESPN.com's Ed Werder, Favre is reportedly "anguished about whether he should come out of retirement and join the team.” The story goes on to say Favre may have already decided not to play for the Vikings this season if it weren't for some key Vikings players staying in contact with the free agent quarterback.Werder's sources claim, in recent days, Adrian Peterson, Steve Hutchinson and Jared Allen have been calling and texting Favre, telling him they want him on the team when Training Camp starts.
"They were telling me, 'You went through all this, you had the surgery and you've got to finish it off.' But I have legitimate reasons for my decision. I'm 39 with a lot of sacks to my name."
Nah, he's not in this for the attention. :unsure:
Laugh all you want, but you are starting to look silly. It appears it was in fact not for the attention but rather due to concerns about health. Understandable ones.If it were attention, why would he not have strung the Vikings out further? That is, by all accounts they offered to give him more time, through training camp, and he declined.Could it not be that he needed to work out to see if his health was where he wanted it to be? Or that he has a hard time with life after football?He declined despite a lot of pressure to either accede or delay, and you just stick to your schtick. Really, old and tired Fatness. It was never about attention, it was always about whether he was up to playing another season, which makes sense coming off injury and surgery.
ook - I'm as big of a Favre fan as there is, but he continues to look like a drama queen. Or a waffling buffoon. Either way, it doesn't look good.
camp hasn't even startedBrett has no interest in suffering through that since he knows the offense so well.I'm sure we will see Brett reconsider his "retirement" as we get closer to the season.(Doesn't hurt Brett's ego to keep his name on the front page until then, either)
 
I'm still thinking about different ways to read this decision. A fool's errand, of course, but anyway, possibilities...- He got a whiff of something he didn't like in Minn. once they made serious overtures, be it the coach, the way they described their plan for offense with Favre, etc.- He decided his best chance to play deep into the playoffs was not to start from Week 1. He'll wait for a decent or good team to lose their QB later in the season, or to struggle early and give him a call (in this scenario he could still end up with the Vikings)- With everyone taking his involvement with Minn. for granted, he has had secret discussions with another team or teamsThe announcement that he'll keep training says that he wants to play. The fact that he walked away from a sure thing contract says he'll only do it on his terms, whatever they may be.
or it could be what he told Werder today that he didn't think he'd make it through the season and his knee is swelling in addition to having ankle issues too.
Could be...the curious thing is the keep throwing thing.Though...maybe he just enjoys the practices with the high school kids...they all seem to enjoy having him around.Its funny I never thought of him as coaching material...but maybe he would be very valuable to somebody out there in some coaching capacity.
 
Just because he knows the system doesn't mean he can just step in and run an efficient offense. This is an entirely different cast of receivers that he needs to get the timing down with. He needs camp to get this done. As great a QB that Favre was he will be turning 40 with a ton of mileage on his body. I really believe that we have seen him throw his last NFL pass.

 
Looks like the Vikings allowed themselves to get to the "friend zone" without ever closing the deal and got themselves the "I'm not ready for a relationship right now" objection.

He doesn't want to be a Viking, but he's still working out? He'll be with some other team by mid-season.

I wonder how this might've turned out differently had the Vikes handled it differently. They looked desparate and pathetic throughout this entire ordeal. When you make yourself look weak and completely unconfident, it doesn't attract people. Shamelessly, pursuing him and begging him to come play on his terms without ever giving the impression that you'd be just fine without him looks weak. It's one thing to pursue and close (see Celtics and Rasheed Wallace), it's another to pursue, let it linger, ruin the confidence of your other QBs to the point that you are screwed if Favre doesn't come back.

Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Favre means it when he says, "It's not you, it's me".

 
I love the "team begging one player" act.

According to a report by ESPN.com's Ed Werder, Favre is reportedly "anguished about whether he should come out of retirement and join the team.” The story goes on to say Favre may have already decided not to play for the Vikings this season if it weren't for some key Vikings players staying in contact with the free agent quarterback.Werder's sources claim, in recent days, Adrian Peterson, Steve Hutchinson and Jared Allen have been calling and texting Favre, telling him they want him on the team when Training Camp starts.
"They were telling me, 'You went through all this, you had the surgery and you've got to finish it off.' But I have legitimate reasons for my decision. I'm 39 with a lot of sacks to my name."
Nah, he's not in this for the attention. :lmao:
Laugh all you want, but you are starting to look silly. It appears it was in fact not for the attention but rather due to concerns about health. Understandable ones.If it were attention, why would he not have strung the Vikings out further? That is, by all accounts they offered to give him more time, through training camp, and he declined.Could it not be that he needed to work out to see if his health was where he wanted it to be? Or that he has a hard time with life after football?He declined despite a lot of pressure to either accede or delay, and you just stick to your schtick. Really, old and tired Fatness. It was never about attention, it was always about whether he was up to playing another season, which makes sense coming off injury and surgery.
ook - I'm as big of a Favre fan as there is, but he continues to look like a drama queen. Or a waffling buffoon. Either way, it doesn't look good.
I will go waffling baboon if forced to choose. That is, it has been horrible PR and made him look stupid, but how long after surgery should he have been allowed to rehab before accusing him of trying to hog the limelight? 6 weeks? 8 weeks?
 
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ook...how long after the rehab did we have him doing interviews?

how long after were there leaks about when they would have a decision?

How long after were there leaks by some about possible deadlines?

Again...its not all him...the media has a large share in the responsibility for the drama...but you have to admit he also shares fault in this.

 
Agreed, but I am not so sure what he would have done otherwise, other than not having cried wolf in the past.

So-called leaks happen all over the place and not talking to the medial just earns a different label.

 
Again...its not all him...the media has a large share in the responsibility for the drama...but you have to admit he also shares fault in this.
You just wrote this in another thread about this subject...."I have not even been making those claims about him."Yet in this thread you claim he shares fault in this. Once again, you contradict yourself like you do so often here. :thumbdown:
 
Again...its not all him...the media has a large share in the responsibility for the drama...but you have to admit he also shares fault in this.
You just wrote this in another thread about this subject...."I have not even been making those claims about him."Yet in this thread you claim he shares fault in this. Once again, you contradict yourself like you do so often here. :wall:
Saying he shares fault in the media blitz is not equal to calling him a prima donna or drama queen or media whore.Get it yet?Nice try...poor execution though.
 
Again...its not all him...the media has a large share in the responsibility for the drama...but you have to admit he also shares fault in this.
You just wrote this in another thread about this subject...."I have not even been making those claims about him."Yet in this thread you claim he shares fault in this. Once again, you contradict yourself like you do so often here. :wub:
Saying he shares fault in the media blitz is not equal to calling him a prima donna or drama queen or media whore.Get it yet?Nice try...poor execution though.
Just another example of how you like to add fuel to the fire when it comes to ripping on Favre. You do it all the time. Everyone here knows that.
 
Looks like the Vikings allowed themselves to get to the "friend zone" without ever closing the deal and got themselves the "I'm not ready for a relationship right now" objection.He doesn't want to be a Viking, but he's still working out? He'll be with some other team by mid-season.I wonder how this might've turned out differently had the Vikes handled it differently. They looked desparate and pathetic throughout this entire ordeal. When you make yourself look weak and completely unconfident, it doesn't attract people. Shamelessly, pursuing him and begging him to come play on his terms without ever giving the impression that you'd be just fine without him looks weak. It's one thing to pursue and close (see Celtics and Rasheed Wallace), it's another to pursue, let it linger, ruin the confidence of your other QBs to the point that you are screwed if Favre doesn't come back.Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Favre means it when he says, "It's not you, it's me".
thanks Damone
 
Looks like the Vikings allowed themselves to get to the "friend zone" without ever closing the deal and got themselves the "I'm not ready for a relationship right now" objection.He doesn't want to be a Viking, but he's still working out? He'll be with some other team by mid-season.I wonder how this might've turned out differently had the Vikes handled it differently. They looked desparate and pathetic throughout this entire ordeal. When you make yourself look weak and completely unconfident, it doesn't attract people. Shamelessly, pursuing him and begging him to come play on his terms without ever giving the impression that you'd be just fine without him looks weak. It's one thing to pursue and close (see Celtics and Rasheed Wallace), it's another to pursue, let it linger, ruin the confidence of your other QBs to the point that you are screwed if Favre doesn't come back.Maybe I'm wrong. Maybe Favre means it when he says, "It's not you, it's me".
thanks Damone
They probably should've taken some of Damone's advice in this situation. Maybe I'm wrong, but I assume more well-run organizations would've handled this situation differently.
 
Favre retires (again) as most selfish athlete in history

Good morning. Brett Favre is still retired.

Favre called it quits (again) Tuesday. He told his broadcasting arm, ESPN, that saying goodbye to the Minnesota Vikings “was the hardest decision I’ve ever made.”

And then we heard crickets.

I guess this was even harder for Favre than when he cried at his retirement press conference in Green Bay, claiming he was done with the game forever, absolutely, that’s it, which prompted the Packers to make an internal and public commitment to Aaron Rodgers. Then a few months later, Favre (not crying anymore) whined that he wanted back in, right before the Packers were preparing to go to training camp with the quarterback they had committed to (and not everybody breaks commitments).

And of course it was harder than this past February when Favre told the New York Jets he would retire, which prompted them to release him, which gave Favre the freedom to try to come back with the Vikings, which was the team he really wanted to play for this past year (or was it two years?), in part because it was in the NFC Central, where he could stick it to the Packers. But, well, the Packers preferred to maroon him in the AFC East, and good for them.

And so this led Vikings coach Brad Childress (sucker) to do a spring-summer-long dance with Favre, while at the same telling his two incumbents quarterbacks, Tarvaris Jackson and Sage Rosenfels, “You’re my guys! I’d run through a wall for you!” even if he didn’t really mean it because by romancing Favre for several months, all Childress succeeded in doing was erecting a wall between him and every player in the Vikings locker room. And then finally — two days before Vikings have to report to training camp! — Favre says he can’t do it, he’s out, Childress looks like a fool, and Jackson and Rosenfels are in therapy.
 
Report: Favre to continue working out

If I’m Childress and Favre calls me in a week saying that he’s ready to come back, I tell him to piss off.

Brett will always be a NFL legend for what he did in Green Bay and I, as well as many other football fans, will always admire how he played the game with such passion, reckless abandon and determination. The guy was flat out fun to watch.

That said, news of him being unsure about his decision to stay retired shouldn’t surprise anyone. Favre is more indecisive than a 15-year-old girl at the mall and I wouldn’t be shocked if he changed his mind once every day until the start of the season.

He’s just flat out incapable of making a decision without changing his mind 14 times.
 
Will Vikings hear from Favre in two weeks?

Amid mounting evidence that Brett Favre is interested in playing football if he can find a way to shorten the season as it applies to him, there are some in the Vikings organization who are convinced that Favre will attempt to join the team after the first two weeks of training camp.

And that coach Brad Childress will welcome him with open arms.
 
Report: Favre to continue working out

If I’m Childress and Favre calls me in a week saying that he’s ready to come back, I tell him to piss off.

Brett will always be a NFL legend for what he did in Green Bay and I, as well as many other football fans, will always admire how he played the game with such passion, reckless abandon and determination. The guy was flat out fun to watch.

That said, news of him being unsure about his decision to stay retired shouldn’t surprise anyone. Favre is more indecisive than a 15-year-old girl at the mall and I wouldn’t be shocked if he changed his mind once every day until the start of the season.

He’s just flat out incapable of making a decision without changing his mind 14 times.
:goodposting: I agree with pretty much all of that. Criticizing his indecisiveness is understandable, although allowing some time to decide oif your body is up to being an NFL QB following surgery is also understandable. I would say 6 to 8 weeks would be at least.

 
Will Vikings hear from Favre in two weeks?

Amid mounting evidence that Brett Favre is interested in playing football if he can find a way to shorten the season as it applies to him, there are some in the Vikings organization who are convinced that Favre will attempt to join the team after the first two weeks of training camp.

And that coach Brad Childress will welcome him with open arms.
Not sure there really is "mounting evidence" but if that is what he does he should rightfully be criticized.I think he does not, or else why not take advatnage of Childress' offer to take more time to decide? You know, the part you conveniently ignore?

 
Will Vikings hear from Favre in two weeks?

Amid mounting evidence that Brett Favre is interested in playing football if he can find a way to shorten the season as it applies to him, there are some in the Vikings organization who are convinced that Favre will attempt to join the team after the first two weeks of training camp.

And that coach Brad Childress will welcome him with open arms.
Not sure there really is "mounting evidence" but if that is what he does he should rightfully be criticized.I think he does not, or else why not take advatnage of Childress' offer to take more time to decide? You know, the part you conveniently ignore?
Agree...but also why keep throwing and working out?My answer to my own question is that I think he is more keeping his options open for a team needing a vet by about week 5 or so if the starter gets hurt.

Last year he could not wait and do that (if he had just not come back) unless it was Rodgers getting hurt because he was under contract.

Now as a free agent anyone could call him a few weeks in if they needed a QB.

 
Will Vikings hear from Favre in two weeks?

Amid mounting evidence that Brett Favre is interested in playing football if he can find a way to shorten the season as it applies to him, there are some in the Vikings organization who are convinced that Favre will attempt to join the team after the first two weeks of training camp.

And that coach Brad Childress will welcome him with open arms.
Not sure there really is "mounting evidence" but if that is what he does he should rightfully be criticized.I think he does not, or else why not take advatnage of Childress' offer to take more time to decide? You know, the part you conveniently ignore?
Agree...but also why keep throwing and working out?My answer to my own question is that I think he is more keeping his options open for a team needing a vet by about week 5 or so if the starter gets hurt.

Last year he could not wait and do that (if he had just not come back) unless it was Rodgers getting hurt because he was under contract.

Now as a free agent anyone could call him a few weeks in if they needed a QB.
We'll see abuot the working out thing when it happens.I think there are very few teams he would play for. Very, very few.

Minnesota, but barring injuries it would be a mistake for them to add him after yesterday. Perhaps even then.

The Browns as he knows the offense from the Jets? Only if they traded Quinn or Anderson, other than that I don't see it.

Where else? Hasselback injury if the SEA offense hasn't changed perhaps.

I just don't think the "wait until someone goes down" thing is Favre. That is, I do not think he continues to work out for that reason.

I actually think it more likely he changes his mind and plays for Minny after missing camp. I hope not, though. But public opnion would probably be little worse for that wear. And why not just say "I haven't decided yet" yesterday?

 
Will Vikings hear from Favre in two weeks?

Amid mounting evidence that Brett Favre is interested in playing football if he can find a way to shorten the season as it applies to him, there are some in the Vikings organization who are convinced that Favre will attempt to join the team after the first two weeks of training camp.

And that coach Brad Childress will welcome him with open arms.
Not sure there really is "mounting evidence" but if that is what he does he should rightfully be criticized.I think he does not, or else why not take advatnage of Childress' offer to take more time to decide? You know, the part you conveniently ignore?
Agree...but also why keep throwing and working out?My answer to my own question is that I think he is more keeping his options open for a team needing a vet by about week 5 or so if the starter gets hurt.

Last year he could not wait and do that (if he had just not come back) unless it was Rodgers getting hurt because he was under contract.

Now as a free agent anyone could call him a few weeks in if they needed a QB.
I don't agree with this, once his "streak" is broken I think he is done.
 
I think he knows the streak is going to be hard to be broken...even by Manning.

But I don't think I could say that if Pitt or Baltimore or NE or Seattle called several weeks in...with nice records and set for a playoff run...that he would really be able to just say no...or at least give strong consideration.

 
Although the "streaK' may play a role in such decisions, I think a much bigger role is the offensive system. Favre seems very relectant to play for a team that uses one he is unfamiar with.

That is why I think if he were going to play it would have been for Minny.

 

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